We learned that peace and "talking it out" doesnt work.
What is the consensus on Holla Forums of the hippie movement? Are they not considered here as leftists...
Lincoln Evans
Eli Martin
That's because liberals are hipster conservatives. The positions of liberals are entirely dictated by opposing conservatives. Up to and including LARPing as communists.
P.S. Conservatives are still liberals, nub.
Owen Fisher
I actually like hippies (and beats). There are a few problems, though - first, they were commodified/turned into a bullshit trend pretty quickly. So a lot of "hippies" were completely bogus, and there was kind of a deliberate shift from leftist politics to drugs and woo.
Secondly, the new left as a whole had the negative impact of leaving behind this perpetual fixation on social issues over everything else. I suspect part of this may have been a result of the sabotage, but part of it was also encouraged by, I assume, the actual "new left." And by the '70s there were all these new left movements that were just total ideological segmented trash. This has had a serious lasting impact.
That said, there were various pros to it - the anarchist/socialist ideology of actually political hippies was not bad. They started a lot of communes, which was (and is) extremely good - as well as a positive DIY approach. Many of their social goals were achieved, and in America at the time their positions were still pretty radical. They also (along with beats) marked kind of a shift in how America sees its government - though that was more an LBJ/post-Kennedy assassination thing.
And the music kicked ass, obviously.
Jayden Hill
The drugs were cool to
Juan Morris
all feminism is the most bourgeoisie wave of feminism