Proletariat class literally mentally retarded

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Labor was pretty well defined by Marx. Being a Walmart clerk is not being a laborer. Being a cashier is not being a laborer. Those are all petite bourgeois occupations that keep earn wealth exchanging the labor of the proletariat among themselves.

You fags are literally dreaming about a world where you'll get a petite bourgeoisie job for an even higher wage and putting even greater weight on the proletariat. You fags are the antithesis of a productive socialist society.

Wrong. They both create a service (which is a commodity) that their employer sells.

Yeah, I take a commodity I didn't make, I give it to someone else; that means I created a commodity, the act of getting stuff I didn't make is a commodity.

I guess all those business owners are some really hard laborers.

I guess taxi drivers also arent proletarians because they dont produce anything right?

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Yeah, and he says that you either have to sell your labor power to survive, in which case you're a prole, or you don't, in which case someone is working property for you, and you're bourgeois. Whether or not the labor is productive or in a "service industry" is immaterial. The clerk isn't any more or less a laborer than a brick layer.

You either have property and live by others working it for you or you're one of those people working that property. It's as simple as that.

Yeah, they are not laborers. They do not create commodities, they just provide a service utilizing commodities others made. Isn't it so fucking obvious?

As I said, none of that fits the definition of proletariat. You faggots are saying that anyone who is poor and can't make much money is a proletariat, that's fucking nonsense. A failed capital manager or someone who utilizes capital to provide a low wage service is not a fucking proletariat.

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Proletariat is not synonymous with industrial worker. Besides what does it matter whether tradesman aren't as smart. That doesn't suddenly make it acceptable for business owners to steal the wealth their employees made for the business. Even Marx clearly stated that physically and mentally superior workers should earn more in proportion to their contribution.

Except we're not saying that.
You're either from reddit or trying to b8 us.