cumtown is better for the haha's, for the other stuff idk chapo is cool i like it and everyone on there but shitting on journalist libs gets old and also what you said. i'm glad it exists though
Easton Howard
Why should anyone stop
William Morales
no one should ever stop EVER, but that doesn't mean it doesn't get tired. what makes it better is that he makes it so incredibly easy
Connor Baker
They've been great imo. The Ben Shapiro novel is one of my favorite things so far. The only thing I don't like now is how every episode feels like a random group of people talking, I miss the consistency of having Felix, Matt and Will every episode.
It's also kind of weird how you want a political podcast to avoid mentioning the recently-elected president as his administration is issuing its first orders. What should they be talking about?
Joshua Young
The Ben Shapiro bits are always highlights and about Trump is that they just gloat about him the same away over and over again, not even Felix's tirades don't sound as out there crazy as before.
And Amber.
Jordan Rivera
Just listened to the new episode. fucking amazing
Levi Ramirez
Katie Halper show is pretty gud if you want interviews with actual people who know their shit and proper discussion on organizing Socialism.
Another good Podcast to follow is From Alpha to Omega, though it's very academic, but focuses a lot of futurism and Socialist economics. Based Micheal Roberts is a very regular guest.
Grayson Lewis
yeah where the fuck is amber
Juan Young
UK.
William Green
I really wish we could get longer Chapo episodes now that the're making over 40,000 a month. That's a lot for just recording 2 sometimes 3 hours of audio a week.
She's back she was just on the Cumtown that dropped tonight
Michael Clark
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Andrew Brooks
I'll upload a few premiums if you tell me what you want
Carter Harris
don't even know what i'm missing on that end but i heard the cthulhu episode was good so maybe that and a personal fav or two of yours i guess. that would be nice
Juan Perez
dude can you upload the Brandon Wardell one? The guys in CumTown talked about how awful it was and it got me curious.
Nicholas Bailey
Okay might take a while due to shit internet
Liam Clark
check back in a few days, i'm bout to rip em all and upload them
if the dry boys are real leftists they wont care
Wyatt Hall
typical commie parasites with their free shit cool man
Aiden Carter
cthulhu was fun
never heard that ep, why is it considered bad?
Wyatt Ross
wardell isnt funny, they just talk about wardell's fat friend who twitch streams
David Rivera
I have no idea how he has a job with MTV or whatever
What the fuck is wrong with the brains of the "intellectual" right? This guy is so fucking autist it's crazy.
Gavin Carter
Yeah, I was looking forward to what Chapo would do with a guest as big as Tim (the episode where they watched a Dinesh D'souza movie with Bill Corbett was fucking brilliant) but the Ben Shapiro reading was the only good part of the episode. It was funny, but the first half was a pretty meh interview without a lot of humor or interesting questions/answers from Tim.
Jace James
They came off as really nervous around Tim. The whole episode seemed really awkward.
Jeremiah Brooks
I wish they would bring some actual leftists on to interview. It's been nothing but liberals lately.
Kayden Carter
i love chapo
all those things matt said about Trump are true too, sorry if this offends
Did they ever release the full recording of them arguing with that weird alt-right guy? They played a few snippets at the end of one of their episodes but I could never find the unedited version.
Tim Heidecker episode was weak. Looks like they themselves are tired of bashing trump, liberals and alt-right They should have an episode about foreign politics, some new ground could be good to them. And the world isn't all about trump. There's the French election, for example. The humor could be better if there's new things to talk about.
If you want the actual audio file I can upload that but I figured the video would be better
Jordan Morris
If you want the actual audio file I can upload that pls.
Wyatt Harris
I feel like chapo would have been edgier and more interesting if Clinton had actually won the election in the burgerstan. majority of post election episodes have been daily show tier shit.
Wyatt Reyes
Alright hold on…
They basically all admitted that on their Nostalgia Trap interviews
yeah, I seem to remember them predicting it in that new yorker article about them too. sad, really, but I'm not really sure where else they can go with their current format given the Trump spectacle is all encompassing in politics right now.
id really like some more geopolitical stuff, more international guests. right now it's mostly been american liberal journalists and entertainers who are some of the most banal people on the planet, but i understand they're easy to get.
Colton Jenkins
I think you would really enjoy Radio War Nerd. The Chapo boys get most their info on geopolitics from John Dolan and Mark Ames anyway. Here's their free shows
Does anybody know where I can see the video of the election night event?
Landon Garcia
I already posted the youtube link
Nicholas Sanders
They need better guests. The Adam Curtis show was great and subsequent shows have not matched up to it.
Xavier Hill
You guys should let them know on twitter and patreon you want different guests or content focus. I like what they're doing now despite how exhausting the Trump shit is, but I'd definitely prefer more serious politics/geopolitics in the mix. They will likely make changes if you hit them up about it.
Alexander Robinson
Yeah they'd probably appreciate whatever legit criticism you have. I think Felix's DMs are still open. I'm an absolute nobody on Twitter and I messaged Felix about MMA and he immediately gave me a polite response back. I wouldn't constantly bug him about shit but if you want to reach him that way it should be fine.
Christopher James
Might be a good idea to DM him the thread. Would be easier at least. Might not like the piracy though.
William Ross
cheers user, i'll check it out
Christopher Davis
Hey comrades anyone uploaded their new premium episode?
They endorsed the Democratic Socialists of America too, so…
Jack Morris
Felix definitely seems to have an interest in geopolitics. Their second to last premium ep was him talking to a journalist whose specialty is writing about the intersection of geopolitics and MMA. I don't even know anything about MMA and I've never watched it myself, but the conversation was about Chechen and Russian nationalism and "proxy wars" being played out through sports. It was actually pretty good
Brayden Stewart
Unthinkable. First they support PPG's imperialist adventure serving a pawn of the US in the middle east and now this.
David Gutierrez
Is this really good? I'm listening to it for the first time, the Red Scare episode, and they spent the first 5 minutes attacking some writer for using big words like "clandestinity"
Ian Thompson
Thanks a lot my man
Camden Morgan
opinion instantly disregarded.
Adrian Allen
Newest ep is really good. The stuff on Israel was p hilarious.
Ayden Ward
whatever you say buddy
Luis Taylor
why are tankies so stupid
Asher Jenkins
lel top banter
Also does anyone here listen to OPC (soundcloud.com/02496) they're not as knowledgeable as Chapo but they're more left-wing
Brayden Foster
is this your podcast user
William Rivera
Nah, but I know they're very small still.
Juan Diaz
Yeah it was a riot but also revolting.
Hudson Sanchez
Did you guys even listen to the Tabletop Game Theory episodes? Shit was fucking brilliantly funny.
Jeremiah Sullivan
is the dude who said he was a zionist in highschool anti-israel/anti-zionism or not?
this rides on whether or not i enjoy this podcast
Camden Hughes
He called sharon a butcher, said israel did ethnic cleansing and called his zionist camp experience propaganda
What do you think?
Adrian Hernandez
Revolting how?
Matthew Sanchez
The crude indoctrination they did on the people that went there.
William Campbell
Is the podcast revolting or the Israeli propaganda. I may have misunderstood.
Ian Ross
the israeli propaganda obviously… Why would i webm that if i hate Chapo.
Jeremiah Barnes
NEVER GET CAUGHT OUT WITH SOCDEMS ABOUT ALWAYS FEAR WITH SOCDEMS NEAR NEVER RELAX AROUND SOCDEM HACKS
Jayden Wilson
Phil Greaves, get the fuck out and go back to sucking assad's dick
Matthew Miller
They just like to shit on hack writers like Micheal Weiss who write terrible shit in defense of Saudi Arabia, Ukrainian Gov. etc.
Maybe that was a bad episode to start with. Scroll down and try to find their episode about the IRA or Weathermen those were two of my favorites.
Julian Stewart
They're all bad episodes to start with
Wyatt Watson
Some people in another thread were talking about getting Sargon of Akkad to go on Chapo Trap House so he could get BTFO. How's that coming?
Also, can we get Paul Joseph Watson to do the same thing? He's an annoying cunt who needs to get rekt.
James Lee
Might as well post the full image.
I hope it is still going because i know Sargon's ego is too big to let him turn it down.
Logan Cruz
g-guys I was satirizing the average DSA-hating tankie
Luis Adams
I deleted the thread in case any freelance fun police got wise, I'll be bringing it back up at some point.
Ayden Garcia
Honestly, I don't know if that would happen. Sargon seems like the sort of dude who becomes the "by your logic, you've just proved my point" guy when debating, which are hard to BTFO because they will drop a thousand logic shit to dodge the debate
Levi Smith
Felix's Twitter handle is "ByYourLogic" and Matt makes fun of logical fallacies all the time so I'd guess they'd just troll him until he melted down if it came to that. The big problem is I'd think any real debate would need some kind of moderator and preferably a live audience. Without that I'd just be an incredibly awkward podcast or YouTube shitshow.
Nolan Peterson
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Jeremiah Sullivan
Who gives a shit
Matthew Kelly
Tankies, trots, leftcoms, anarkiddies. The scourge of the Left.
Joshua Wright
They just want a mass socialist organization in the US, one of them routinely jokes that once it gets big enough she can start a far-left splinter group.
Jaxon Fisher
I don't see it tbh Everyone should, because the success of socialism depends on having a correct revolutionary program. Or, you know, we can forget the lessons of the past hundred and fifty years of history.
t. Dale Earnhardt
Ethan Gomez
So did anyone DM Felix with criticism?
Dylan Phillips
Tim is just too nice for the Chapo kind of humor. He makes them look mean-spirited when he's on the show with them tbh.
Julian Howard
I don't think we'll get Sargon or PJW on, but hbbomberguy was talking to them on twitter so they might have an ep w/ him
if they have an episode just shitting on youtube logic pedants that could be fun and good
Nolan Turner
I can't for the life of me understand why someone would pay to listen to an hour of lulz-reference-anal-poop shit talking, this is worse than Stefan Molyneux.
Stop eating from the trashcan.
Bentley Jackson
Good thing it's not that, then
Joseph Hall
It's a bunch of imaginary friends, like all vloggers.
Angel Wright
no
Isaiah Martinez
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Oliver Wright
They're not coming over to beat up sargon for you.
It's not real when I don't have a patreon.
Gabriel Perez
what's your point
Alexander Richardson
bump
Adam Martin
we are all your imaginary friends. you have been in a coma for the last 7 months. please wake up
Juan Brooks
I wish Matt would make a podcast based on his Drunk History episode, but preferably with a script and editing out the silence pauses.
Angel Green
also, new episode is on boys
Nathan Young
That would be good since he is the historical materialism nerd. I think everyone would prefer it to his movie podcast with amber.
Lincoln Thomas
Why would they reck anybody? If they're pulled out of their carefully curated world of inter-referential memes that uses shibboleth in the place of arguments there is a chance they'll lose in debate.
Gavin Gutierrez
This tbh. It's an incestuous podcast, where the right hand jacks off the left one and so on
Owen Rivera
They've already debated a conservative and he certainly didn't win.
Chase Brown
Robby Soave or Matt Walther? I guess it didn't really go well for either.
Gabriel Hernandez
Ugh fuck, he's so unfunny. Pure reddit.
Sebastian Jones
I'm really glad Chapo boys agree about the necessity of a left-wing gun culture.
Evan Flores
Wtf I love chapo now
Brayden Watson
What's really fucking annoying though is you tell people all this crazy disingenious shit Israel and Zionists get up to and you just get called an "antisemitic conspiracy theorist".
Nicholas Gonzalez
Sargon ALWAYS gets destroyed in debates.
The problem is his followers are so fucking stupid they always claim he won and destroyed everyone with his "logic".
Listen to that one where he debates an actual sociologist academic and gets demolished in every conceivable way, yet all his fanboys and Reddit were like "See Sargon BTFO crazy SJW feminist"
Joseph Myers
tbh I've only seen a few of his videos but they were kinda funny
Ian Ward
Are we still doing the petition to get Sargon on Chapo?
Liam King
NO. Only Hardon of a Cuck fans want him on Chapo. They just want to expand his lame dying platform.
When will this meme die REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Jason Taylor
Literally the only thing I've wanted to hear from them since I found out about them (although the HyperNormalisation episode was pretty good).
Kayden Bailey
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Nathaniel Jenkins
excited to listen to this today
Jaxon Adams
ayy
Nolan Bennett
I'm 99% he was joking
Anyone know if that bit about masturbation being illegal was true? Might change my whole view on Rojava
Brandon Young
HOLY FUCK! I just found out that Red Kahina = Molly Klein. Didn't know this before.
She's fucking nuts!
Robert Carter
Twitter Tankies are living in an alternate reality, its the only thing that makes sense
Daniel Cooper
Celibacy is definitely enforced I wouldn't be surprised if that includes masterbation.
Christian Russell
Is the movie podcast completely dead? they haven't uploaded anything in a while. I think Chapo is doing an episode about Patriots Day so that should be good.
Kevin Myers
Fucking piss man.
Nicholas Long
This is why the west is the best place for socialism to rise. Socialism in the context of rojava and the stuff he describes (multiple wives, honor killings and so on) is colored by these old world traditions. Though it should be said, whatever rises in the west will probably still have to deal with prejudices about property and moral codes that exist here, but these kinds of old world social norms have much less hold over western ideology.
Also, think of him saying that the Kurds would call his cell phone capitalist. Maybe they had more of a reason for saying that than what he presented, but it sounds like some surface level reactionary bullshit against western culture and the products of global capitalism.
But I still think the YPG is the thing that should be supported. It's more revolutionary than ISIS or Syria, but it isn't perfect obviously.
Dylan Reed
It's fucking shit
Tyler Miller
listening to pisspiggranddad makes me ashamed of my fucking life
i was happy just to get a job for fuck sake
Joseph Lewis
LAAAMAAAAOOOOOOOOOOOO
Stalinists will defend this.
Lucas Evans
to be fair, no fap was probably in place already
it's the middle east
Jaxson Perry
Are we talking about Adam from Cum Town?
Michael Reyes
You're doing good too, comrade.
Adam Turner
Yeah. Listen to the podcast. He goes into how they basically indoctrinated him including sex, but even with all the propaganda the disgusting nature of Israel was plain for him to see at the time and completely destroyed any Zionism inside him.
Zachary Lopez
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Anthony Sullivan
Yeah that freaked me out a bit. I assume it's a military shit so it's no biggie, but everything he's describing sounds weird and completely alien to any idea of Socialist a westerner would have.
But again, I assume it's just army conduct instead of political.
Hudson Reed
I laughed so hard at this.
Also, what kind of "detention" will he be subject to coming home? Are there any reports from the various other foreign YPG volunteers about being detained on their return?
Tyler Smith
He is from canada so i would not expect anything to happen to him.
Easton Lee
he lives in california tho right?
Gavin Cooper
That was a joke.
He's from the Bay area I think.
William Ortiz
The asceticism he described sounds like a leftover from the PKK's ML days. Sounds like the to the "New Socialist Man" philosophy that was promoted in soviet countries. The self criticism sessions are old school soviet shit too.
Samuel Brooks
So this is definitely top 3 Chapo episodes
Levi Anderson
it's up there with Year Zero and chapo speakeasy eps
Josiah Green
He definitely lived in Toronto at one point. I know a guy who knew him through the Toronto punk scene.
Christian Torres
when PPG says they've banned masturbation he likely means in military quarters as the YPG soldiers are in a quite unique situation of having tons of women fighting right next to them
YPG want to restrict any sexual shit between the male and female contingent for obvious reasons
it sounds strange but the YPG/J aint a normal army
Chase Mitchell
that and i can see alot of social conservatism bleeding into the YPG from the incredibly sexualy repressed society they come from
Lucas Rogers
He said that the honor killings and polygamy came before the revolution. those things don't exist now.
i assumed no fap was for the ypg specifically, not everyone in it.
Daniel Garcia
because its an actually existing, incredibly poor society during a fucking war. of course it's not the same as utopian sci fi fantasies
Zachary Smith
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Eli Cox
I think he explains it well. Rojava is dirt poor, embargoed from the rest of the world, and they are fighting for their very survival.
Jacob Gomez
Lel I can't wait for sexual politics to destroy left support for rojava
Basically, instead of mass politics and class warfare, Louis Auguste Blanqui suggested we should make socialism by having a core group of revolutionary conspirators organize a coup to take over the state and make socialism from the top down. Unlike things like the Vanguard Party (where the goal is to have a core group of educated middle class lead the proletariat in revolution), the proletariat basically play no role in Blanquism until well after the revolution.
Ryder Cooper
Worth mentioning he joked on twitter that the unofficial designated fap time is guard duty.
The last few episodes with Tim Heidecker and the Cum Town guy were weak as fuck, but this and the journalist guy were solid episodes.
Isaiah Wilson
the last two episodes with shane bauer and pisspig grandad were fantastic.
Michael Kelly
Could you please explain who this is, i'm not too in tune with left twitter
Parker Bailey
Piss Pig is a petty bourgeois imperialist LARPer.
Jaxson Hall
she knows that pisspig is a cia agent, and is trying to warn us
Cooper Watson
One of the few decent leftists on twitter that aren't just ultraliberals, along with people like Phil Greaves.
Brody Morales
Kek I wish we had liberal ultras Like, they're so liberal that they don't do anything, like leftcoms
Mason Murphy
hmm
Julian Cruz
This sentence is so awful, it killed at least ten men who shit themselves to death screaming for their lives
Joseph Murphy
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Leo King
Thank God we have quality Soviet larpers doing the necessary work of calling everything a CIA psyop (unless it's a Russian state propaganda in which case it's proletarian struggle).
Nathaniel Hughes
Like anarchists and other petty booj faux "Marxists" are any better. At least Greaves and others try to offer a Marxist analysis of the situation, rather than posting the latest spicy memes from tumblr and reddit.
Only Marxism Leninism can liberate the proletariat.
Same goes for dialectical analysts such as comrade Jason Unruhe.
Josiah Nguyen
You killed ten men.
Now you killed forty one.
Leo King
That always seems to end with "the status quo is fine, don't do or support anything or else you're just feeding into the CIA/Israel psyops"
Isaiah James
How, when they support authentic anti imperialist and socialist movements?
Gabriel White
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Parker Gonzalez
Literally Phil Greaves detected tbh
Jordan Collins
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Kayden Rogers
Sure, sure, just weird coincidence that the best way to support anti-imperialist and socialist movements is to support authoritarian religious conservatives like Russia.
Jayden James
I don't understand why there aren't more Blanquists, after years and years of bouncing between Socialist schools, after really having a big period of introspection and thought about how power works, I would say I'm like 70% Blanquist now.
The idea the working class is going to rise up is just naive bullshit at this point. The best way to bring about Socialism would be to place revolutionaries of positions of power like Government institutions and the media and then start pushing out Socialist rhetoric from a place of muh privilege and authority.
Imagine if Socialists got in charge of News Corp, we could probably envoke a fucking Commie revolution within a fucking month.
Seems like a utopian and defeatist position honestly Also the whole separation of powers thing
Sure, provided they don't turn into a bunch of Rachel Maddows and provided the shareholders didn't have anything to say about it This position seems to require we break capitalist control before we can coopt the "capitalist state," presupposing revolution and merely begging the question
Austin Gray
a four saying something not idiotic for once. well played my good sir
Jordan Perry
They're not making a living
Jackson Cruz
Oh no? What are they doing?
Jace Gonzalez
Phil Greaves, pls leave
Ethan Davis
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William Ward
Proles should do it, not middle class posers
Owen Thompson
middle class is more successful proles dipshit
Brayden Collins
There are valid points to be made about commercialism and the "culture industry," but after a while you do need to choose between reach and theoretical depth/rigor. If complaints about the content reduce to choice of intended audience, it's not so clear cut whether it's "profiteering" or "we just want to be entertaining and funny, and have fun doing it"
Plus le no ethical consumption under capitalism and how we all need to self-justify under this mode of production, in some way, and so on.
Still would be nice if they went more into Marxist analysis of current events, even a rudimentary one. There's a good opportunity to popularize that sort of thing and raise class consciousness
Austin Hall
You disgrace his name.
Easton Diaz
I knew these Bookchin memes would attract those types eventually
here you go comrade. not sure if this is up to date or what, i didn't upload these.
Grayson Russell
considering a lot of people i know don't have jobs, you're doing pretty well
also, crawling around for 8 hours and then mandatory nofap while being shot at isn't for everyone
Kevin Jenkins
thank you my man
Caleb Morris
There is totally a middle class, but Lenin was totally middle class within Russian society and so saying "Middle class shouldn't lead things" with a Lenin hat icon is mind numbing levels of lack of self awareness.
Anthony Hernandez
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Julian Foster
oh yeah that's true
Aaron Wright
Zizek is a bad boy with at least 86 Exazizeks of unbearable psued
Xavier Young
But pseudointellectualism is measured in kilofoot-pounds per zizek mang
Adam Mitchell
Sorry.
Adrian Morris
lel
I don't really disagree, though, all that much. He's basically the edgy contrarian darling of the academic pseudo-left. He says good stuff occasionally
John Watson
Idk about her. But I'm pretty sure Greaves is poor
Ryder Baker
How is Zizek a pseud? By your own admission you haven't even read any of his books. Shitting on thinkers you haven't read is exactly what a pseud would do.
Michael White
Marky Mark Boston Strong
Hunter Turner
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Angel Edwards
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Gavin Anderson
I've tried to listen to CT a few time, I just can't stand Stav
Eli Smith
it's like you want to be in the wrong side of history
Benjamin Turner
derails another thread. well done hoochie.
Thomas Miller
Where are they getting all this money?
Hunter Hernandez
patreon
Evan Myers
The multimillionaire heiress is the one starting the podcast.
Colton Gutierrez
I managed to survive two years in med I think I can safely say I'm not a psued. But people who worship Zizek are,
Justin Cox
Do not name tripfags. Jesus Christ.
Jacob Stewart
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Jackson Sanchez
Zizek spends 24/7 reading and writing books. The man literally has a room that's exclusively intended to store all of his books and is filled to the top with them. Your 2 years of med are a joke compared to that.
Logan Gonzalez
Well, I guess the differences is one has material impact on the working class. The other is a self mastrabatory library.
Parker Russell
Zizek has influenced more change in the minds of people and inspired them to become active leftists than you could hope to achieve in your lifetime. And me. And probably everyone here. Your ego is insufferable tbh
Landon Moore
He's a salami publisher that shitposts in book form
Jaxon Johnson
Different careers, different paths. Not everyone is made out to be a psued who gets more than he should on college tour lectures.
While I'm working to help the fucking suicidal among the impoverished and the homeless to whatever ability I can.
Colton Baker
NOT AGAIN
Ayden Gomez
What pissed me more off is the people who dressed as ypg and shot up a bunch of civilians and some human rights council blamed the YPG, and when they figured out it wasn't, blamed them for not preventing it
You can't make that shit up
Adam Young
fucking psueds
Wyatt Hall
As opposed to post grad, in which I'm sure you are.
Angel Hughes
Who could have possibly seen this coming?
Eli Perry
Ironic that the trot is saying that
Ethan Wilson
Not really, no.
Jordan Powell
It sucks that a lot of leftists think Amnesty, Human Rights Watch, ACLU etc. are just liberal do-gooders when in reality they are funded and ran by right-wingers who view labor organizing and socialism as being anti-freedom or whatever.
ACLU gets money from Peter Thiel and fights for the rights of Nazis and Klansmen but when it comes to labor unions they're pro "right to work".
I think it was Amnesty which bragged about sabotaging the first peace deal in Columbia and said rebels need to face criminal charges.
It's Human Rights Watch which falsely accused YPG of ethnic cleansing but sheds tears everytime a Salafist is killed.
Sometimes these groups do some valuable work but leftists should remember they're not exactly on our side.
Ian Richardson
Isn't there a human rights episode made by chapo trap house? I think it's about Colombia or some other south america country. The guest talks a bit about the human rights role on this, i think.
It was Human Rights Watch who sabotaged the peace deal. Amnesty is much more reasonable.
Josiah Jenkins
more like cuck rights watch and cucks international
Zachary Rivera
She said she's just Scots-irish but yeah her face is uhh… Unique.
Owen Ward
not american, what the hell is the difference between irish, scotish and scots irish?
Brayden Ramirez
Just varifying degrees of alcoholism and proneness to crack cocaine
Caleb Jackson
is amber asian
Brayden Ward
Is this a common opinion here?
Because I like her. She's funny and has a cute laughter. She's like a female Stavros.
Logan Turner
that's what I assume
source???
Benjamin White
She seems autistic
Andrew Edwards
Every single one of them seem autistic. Nick, Stavros, Adam, Matt, Will, Felix.
I think people have been hating on white Brooklynites wrongly. They're not hipster gentrifiers, only autistic.
Dylan Parker
what if we are all autistic and the spergs are the normal ones?
Jaxon Parker
Who needs creck cocaine, when yev got harrowin?
Josiah Gutierrez
huffing paint/gasoline or go home you fucking scrub
Grayson Thomas
what the fuck are you on about
They don't seem autistic at all. You might be for not picking up social cues and thinking everything you don't like is autism
Evan Myers
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Jose Nelson
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Aiden Sullivan
he looks so happy :3
Henry Lee
No user they're all autistic, and you're autistic too for not identifying this. Autists don't see autism in others, I know because I studied this.
Nathan Collins
It's a symptom of autism to not go out much, identify too many things as odd and discomforting, and having a pained reaction to them
Literally nobody is acting autistic but you right now. Not everything you don't like is autism.
Joseph Thompson
I have huffed lacquer thinner too and it gives you a weird but fun high I only did it twice because it melts my fucking brains
Ayden Murphy
what if the real autism is the friends you didn't make along the way
Isaac Lopez
These people with an enormous amount of friends are autists.
Me though, I'm a total chad, 6'5, a bear of a man, I've studied autism all my life. These smug snarky New Yorkers cannot get a decent point across to them. They're all autistic. I'm not autistic.
I hate fucking family court.
Jackson Hernandez
You're a simpleton.
First, you can tell they're autistic because of the shape of their noses and the ratio between ears and head.
In fact everything I don't like is really autism, is says here in the research.
Mason Nguyen
Fool me once, shame on me.
Don't fool me again.
Eli Stewart
For a group of people who like a podcast that literally comes from Irony twitter you people suck at identifying irony, my god.
Or maybe I suck at doing irony, and now I'm wondering if this is an autistic trait.
Christopher Powell
I mean, you were indistinguishable from an autistic twitter tankie who has "anti irony left" in their description. That's a talent I suppose.
Angel Watson
what if the real irony is the just pretending to be retarded we did along the way
Julian Rodriguez
Really? Like they literally can't distinguish neurotypicals from other autists? I'm ASD and feel like it's pretty easy for me to pick up on whether or not people are subconsciously transmitting and receiving these sekrit magic signals just by observing them
I mean if you've got some journal articles that can clarify go ahead
Jackson Wright
Protestantism
100 people asked her on curiouscat
Aaron Gonzalez
>there are posters on this board RIGHT NOW who shill 24/7 for Pisspig/Chapo/Rojava
Samuel Baker
Why would you want your soldiers to be completely sex-starved without any means of release and therefore potentially distracted?
Ayden Gray
Irish are from Ireland, Scots are from Scotland, Scots-Irish are Scots who colonized what is today Northern Ireland, aka the part of Ireland which remains part of the United Kingdom.
Alexander Rodriguez
Explain yourself faget
Levi Jackson
LEFTCOM
LEFTCOM
LEFTCOM
LEFTCOM
LEFTCOM
LEFTCOM
LEFTCOM
LEFTCOM
LEFT
Thomas Gutierrez
I guess the LeftCom flag derailed too much from his intended means of trolling by distracting everyone with the absurdity of a LeftCom telling people to "contribute"?
Cameron Lewis
I'm an actual leftcom and do shit. I also don't have an issue with Chapo, pisspig, or the YPG. Leftcom flag is just used for shitposting now.
Owen Carter
new episode is up
Wyatt Rivera
They're talking about Sargon and leftypol's campaign lmao.
Jacob Russell
same comrade. leftcom is pretty misunderstood i think and the shitposters who meme and use the flag have really fucked it up
Brody Richardson
holy shit they're talking about leftypol? have they done that before?
Joseph Hernandez
they didn't mention leftypol by name but they talked about internet people telling them to do an episdoe on dipshits like sargon
Noah Ramirez
oh, well what timestamp?
Carter Roberts
around 55 min in
Camden Martin
Not Holla Forums by name, but Will said some people kept pressing him to attack Sargon, which I assume is us
Leo Murphy
bump
Jayden Price
The latest episodes haven't been great apart from the Call of Cthulhu stuff.
Like they said, it's too hard to satire Trump because the Republicans are just full retards. Honestly they should be doing more interviews.
Kevin Phillips
bumping this glorious thread
Aaron Kelly
I'll upload the new premium after I get done listening…
Honestly, one of the better episodes. Shits on idpol hard.
The cumtown eps are linked somewhere in this thread upthere.
Oliver Rodriguez
yeah although the recent one with just the three of them was probably one of the best in recent memory
Logan Rogers
Newest episode is dope as fuck, leftypol would love it.
It's literally an entire episode tearing apart college idpol.
Charles Diaz
I… I've been waiting for this day.
Brody Gonzalez
these are all pretty shite, and Ive sat through meme harris podcasts
James Hernandez
New premium episode is very good. Matt's point about cultural commodification vs. cultural appropriation was really interesting and something I hadn't heard before.
Landon Wright
I just finished listening to the episodes there were on the megaupload and I should have commented on them as I listened them
I don't remember what episode was this but who is Sam Kriss and why doesn't he like Zizek? he says Zizek is a conservative
Also on the pizzagate episode they mentioned that some DNC memeber had an sculpture that was posed like a Jeffrey dahmer victim, pic related are said sculpture and the Dahmer victim that inspired it.
Hunter Stewart
yeah, john podesta had that
what a fucking creep. someone post his paintings
Kayden Powell
Sam Kriss and Zizek had a little intellectual spat a while. Like Zizek, Sam Kriss is also a Lacanian. For Kriss Zizek is not communist enough.
I listened to a few episodes of Novara. They seemed real worried about offending people like they'd say sorry for saying "Insane" or "crazy" like it was some kind of terrible slur. I finally dropped it because the stupid brit host said "lets be honest the FBI lost Hillary the election" among other bad takes. Some of the guests were okay but I hated the hosts.
Other than Novara I listen to 3/4 of the podcasts you listed and they're all pretty good for the most part.
I might just upload some War Nerd episodes since I'm already doing that with Chapo. My worry is that people that people who aren't used to Ames and Dolan will listen to them bitch about hack journalists or shitty hotels for 20 minutes and think "wtf is this shit" and turn it off before the real stuff starts.
Jordan Rogers
These fuckers need to read more. I'm listening to episode 72 and it's like the second or third time I see them completely choke when asked to recommend books.
They seem smart and well-informed, Matt and Amber in particular, but it would be nice if they'd cover all the bases.
Joshua Lopez
although there are still many traces of liberalism, I really enjoy media theorist Rushkoff's podcast called Team Human. It's a bit of a meta-podcast since it's mostly about technology and the media. Highly recommended for Situationists and other leftists media theorists or people that like Adam Curtis. Every episode begins with a monologue by Rushkoff dissecting the current spectacle.
CPT comes off as stock-standard Brooklynite nu-males that can't decide whether the flyovers deserve sympathy or mockery
Also that jew fuck really needs to stop assuming that being Jewish gives him an insight into every and any branch of Christianity ("JESUS WAS JEWISH, SO LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT YOUR RELIGION")
Both Will and Felix are Jews so I don't really know who you're talking about.
But yeah much of the left hasn't decided what they think of flyovers and Christians. One minute they say they're oppressed and alienated then another they're all rednecks and reactionaries.
On Chapo they make fun of the concept of a cultural bubble but when most of your friends are all educated left-wing atheist New Yorkers you may be living in one.
Jaxson Lopez
Holla Forums has its head up its ass again.
You can be reactionary and oppressed at the same time. Being working class doesn't mean that you automatically develop class consciousness.
Eli Harris
You can have sympathy for a struggling person, and still think they have shit taste. People are complex and multi-dimensional. This is retarded absolutist thinking.
Elijah Long
Everyone on Holla Forums looks like a hispanic numale stop with this
Liam Hernandez
Can anyone tell me, what's the episode where they read the column by the Catholic guy who hears 'fuck' on an airplane?
Kevin James
Holla Forums gets absolutely BTFO on the new episode.
Also, Angela's accent is hot.
Colton Stewart
I hope Kill All Normies gets pirated soon. the author sounded like she tought there was any drop of goodness left on the averange channer
Jaxson Lopez
a special White trash race.
Grayson Diaz
did she talk about leftypol should we inform her about it
Ryder Rodriguez
nah it was a look at the alt-right particularly its origins and how its cannibalizing itself
Oh shit will this spark the Sam Hyde vs Chapo Saga?
Anthony Taylor
mad
Benjamin Carter
Sam would look like a fucking fool on Chapo and he knows it, which is why he'll never go on. Matt and Felix would run circles around him and all he'd be able to do is meme and do that stupid loud laugh he does.
Samuel Cox
Well yeah, but when Trump's actions are the order of the day, and given who he is, it's fucking hard to come up with better material. We live in a farce.
Austin Walker
Why haven't they had Zizek on yet? I mean, Zizek did Douglas Lain's podcast that like 10 people listen to, so it's not like CTH doesn't have the clout to get a guest like Zizek.
Josiah Cox
reminder that ironycels stole all of their humor from old twitter and frog twitter/wyrd right twitter and that CTH is for pseuds and people who think a show collecting hunreds of thousands in donations isn't profiting off of others misery. Lastly the 3/4 jewish thing is off putting.
Cooper Ross
Are they really white trash? I know Will comes from a good family but what about the others?
Jonathan Jenkins
How long do you think he stared at his keyboard, trying to come up something along the lines of "socialists making money, lol" without sounding stupid but realising that he couldn't?
He was even afraid of going to Cum Town for some reason. People on the Right are so concerned with debate culture that they're always afraid of an ambush.
Justin Peterson
They're probably saving some major interviews for periods of slow news I guess.
Chase Rodriguez
You sound like a 16 year old who is lurking a board for the first time and is really concerned about what is the oldfag and the newfag way to behave
Jason Wilson
Pretty sure they hate Zizek. That was the impression I had.
Zizek had a bad falling out with the left for the sort of transphobic and accelerationist shit he said.
Jaxson Reed
I think they're all mostly ambivalent towards him. Plus they have common enemies in Phil Greaves and Molly Klein.
What would even be the point of having Zizek. He will just ramble on about refugees, Starbucks and god dying on the cross like he always does and you can get that from any of his lectures or interviews. His real best work is in his books and writings anyway.
Grayson Reyes
Looking for this as well
Gabriel Ross
That Angela girl they had on the last episode was great, I wonder if they can get more people like her on.
Leo Nguyen
matt called himself a failson's failson felix was lower mid-class i think amber was hooser white-trash wills grand dad was a bolshevik i think im not even sure virgil is a real person outside of the internet
Juan Diaz
How many y'all want a homoerotic relationship with a male best friend who will eventually murder you?
Levi Thompson
According to Molly Klein and Phil Greaves, Will's grandpa was deep State and he carries the hereditary deep state genetics. Lmao
Isaac Bennett
my man here laughing
my man here laughing because he WANTS it
Nicholas Baker
cumtown is the proletariate to chapo's vanguard
Wyatt Torres
Let's be frank, Will's family does have a bit of a weird story.
Michael Perry
AYE YO HE LISTENING
Aiden Sanders
They're scared to touch him with a pole right now.
Easton Hughes
This is the same kind of logic that most UFOlogists fucking use
maybe they'll go over RedKahina's Playboy Network inheritance in about twelve years.
Jose Adams
Split 6 ways (although I'm sure it's not an even split) and living NYC, so it's not like they're rich.
Matt is probably doing pretty good though with low cost of living in Ohio and his wife's income.
Juan Kelly
I don't think this is valid to say he's afraid. Sam Hyde did a lot of really inflammatory stuff in hostile environments and has been assaulted over it irl. He is not interested in debate because he is not interested in laying out an ideology. He has never endorsed the alt right explicitly and has always pretended to be unaware of it. He really hates weird Twitter but for him his misanthropy came first and runs deeper than politics.
Chase Adams
I think he is still afraid not because of debate but because his shock routine is completely gimped by both Chapo and Cum town
Mason Peterson
I'm not even implying anything m6
William Parker
They qualify for Trumps tax break. And yes they are rich on 100k a year, don't care where you live, if you are single income.
Brandon Cooper
I think they do pretty well m8. I'm not american but Brooklyn is one of the cheaper places in NY right?
Alexander Harris
Well, yeah they make more than I'll ever see in a year, but I was just pointing out that it's not like they're overnight millionaires. I just hate the whole "leftists should ever make more than a poverty income" bullshit.
Lincoln Ramirez
I'd be very uncomfortable with it to be honest.
Lucas Long
who's this qt?
Cooper Reed
That's a drawing, not a real person
Henry Campbell
...
Ethan Torres
Nah. Listen to his Nostalgia Trap interview.
Hudson Brown
Uncomfortable if you were making that kind of money or uncomfortable with them making that kind of money?
I really don't really care care how much Chapo makes. I listen to Chapo for entertainment, not for revolutionary ideas or ideological purity.
Isaiah Myers
Uncomfortable if I had their platform and was taking 100k in donations.
Cooper Reyes
lmao 45k in a month bitching about capitalism, capitalizing on their sad audience. fuck them
Levi Nelson
You probably should, because there's no way a non-fed can make $45k per socialist audio podcast
Adam Davis
lol go home phil your drunk
Kayden Davis
They aren't capitalizing off people who voluntarily donate to them
Do you know how Capital works.
Read Marx again, then re read it, then again. I doubt you'll get the message on even a sixth read.
Gavin Wilson
I don't understand is this just you subconsciously agreeing with the meme that you can't earn or have money if you're a socialist?
Charles Carter
They are just entertainers then, not genuine leftists. And if you disagree I'd like to know what makes them "leftist" in your view since it can't their leftist ideology (because they don't have any aside from vague anti-capitalist and anti-imperialist sentiments due to not reading theory).
Good advice for anyone, maybe the Chapo boys should do some of that too. They certainly can afford the time more than most.
Julian Kelly
I'm not staying poor just because you misunderstand who is and is not a Capitalist.
You fucking believe in champagne socialism when Engels and Marx were fucking well off and so was Lenin, go be a blow hard somewhere else
Brandon Evans
oh boy ancaps are out pretending to be marxists…
Luke Russell
I'm an ancap for explaining Patreon
Austin Evans
I'm not accusing them of being Capitalist, I'm accusing them of not having a coherent ideology. Engels, Marx, and Lenin did. Fucking ridiculous that you would even compare them to some uneducated guys with a podcast.
Isaiah Jenkins
So sad how people can think like this. Some leftists will never move past their AdBusters phase, unfortunately.
Blake Walker
Who's comparing? No one said Felix is supposed to be a new Lenin lmao.
Levi Diaz
If you want theorists look for them, they're not claiming to be social economists.
Lincoln Morales
Molly, you are an heiress.
Jace Watson
I a recent episode, one of them I'm not sure who called himself a marxist. I don't understand how they can make that claim when they have never demonstrated even a basic understanding of marxist theory in the episodes I've listened to and will readily admit and ironically mock themselves for not knowing their shit.
Grayson Rodriguez
Matt would run circles around you on theory.
Wyatt Reed
Really? Can you explain what makes you believe that? I'm genuinely curious what sort of educational background these guys have because it's not clear from the podcast.
Samuel Harris
Felix has said time and again that the only things he knows about is Metal Gear, MMA and political Islam.
Matt and Amber are the only ones I would say are Marxist.
Lucas Ward
Who fucking cares? You do know you don't need to have a fucking read list of books to call yourself a collectivist or a marxist
That's the point
Eli Rogers
Amber and Matt are Marxists, Felix, Will and Virgil seem to be left-wing without adhering to any particular theory or platform.
Amber has tons of writings online and was known as a writer way before she joined Chapo, Matt is obviously a history dork and touches on Marxist historiography in the episode where he discusses Willich. He also brought up Adorno a couple of times.
Of course, it's mostly a comedy podcast with the intent of mocking and attacking conservatives, liberals, phony pundits, etc. There's absolutely no reason for them to even discuss Marxism in depth. Also, you sound like the sort of idiot who thinks that demonstrating knowledge of marxist theory means dropping "bourgeois" in every sentence.
Aaron Lopez
Matt cites Marxist theory all the time and does so drunk. He knows a lot of history. He was in grad school, but I don't know what for. I wouldn't go to him as an expert Marxist and I'm sure he would never call himself an expert, but he seems to know a lot more than most people who call themselves socialists.
Charles Brooks
I mean, I'm sure they read more than this user has. His problem is that they don't fit with his idea of what a "Marxist" is supposed to be, i.e. LARPing as a soviet commissar
Jace Long
My god, what a gift to unite every shitty trend of leftist thought against them they have
Gavin Johnson
I've listened to the recent episode about Capitalist Realism and Matt and Amber didn't come across that knowledgeable but could be they were just keeping it simple for their audience. I found Amber's posts on the Baffler, I will have to read them later.
Where did you get the impression that is my idea of what a "Marxist" is supposed to be? I don't even care if they are Marxist necessarily, they can be libertarians or anarchists for all I care, I just want to understand what their actual positions are.
Nolan Reed
Oh, please do! I've been reading Ames' and Dolan's work for a while now but only recently started listening to Radio War Nerd and so far I'm enjoying it a lot.
Evan Bennett
And we replied to you, now stop sperging out about how they don't "seem knowledgeable on ___" like anyone cares
Robert Gutierrez
There's a torrent for War Nerd on TPB, I think it includes most episodes so far
Speaking of other podcasts, anyone else really wish they could get into pic related but think Parsons is a bit clueless and out of touch on everything? The interviews with the Chapo guys are painful at certain moments.
Jordan Rodriguez
I've only listened to Nostalgia Trap once and that was the Freddie deBoer episode. I thought it was alright, not super entertaining though.
Aaron Butler
Kimiko Ross from Dresden Kodak, her comic is shit and her creator is the biggest douchenuzzle in the known universe First pic will show you the TREMENDOUS lack of self awareness the creator Aaron Diaz has. The second fick is a sexy pinup for you
Ryan Davis
has anyone posted todays episode?
Jackson Ross
no
Adrian Long
famrade.. episode?
Jack Cruz
pls someone upload the new eppy
Lucas Gray
The little spoiler on her nipples made me giggle more than it should have.
When Cum Town first started Mullen was living in a Chinatwon slum. If you listen to the show, he's been super poor most of his life. Only recently has the Patreon given the cum boys much success.
Jacob Russell
thx bro
Henry Wood
Mullen and Felix are going to unionize the racism factory.
Logan Collins
I'm only 15 minutes in but man, they are fucking mad on this episode. Best Felix rant since the post election episode.
zizek has never been transphobic if you actually fucking listen to what he says
Owen Wood
mad mad mad so fucking mad hahahaha delicious
Cameron Butler
Its not a drawing, Diaz has erotomania and Kimiko is modelled after a girl Diaz is obsessed with. People has pointed out Kimiko maybe modeled after Ashley Burch (First pic) but Diaz claims he has never met her. Personally I think she's modeled after an unknown girl.
Well, it's better than Chapo's first episode and it's definitely better than Frost/Christman.
Charles Carter
Cum Town is the true home of dialectical materialism in the 21st century. Everything else is pure ideology.
Sebastian Brown
Oh well, anudda wan to the list
Jeremiah Evans
nice fuck off
Christopher Barnes
So I've just downloaded all the episodes of War Nerd. Because my Internet is shit it may take a while but I should have them all uploaded by tonight or tomorrow…
Isaiah Peterson
this
Brandon Gonzalez
what about the podcast called "delete your account" what do y'all's folks think about it?
Matthew Moore
wasnt there this weird lady on Twittre called "amber eeeeeee" or something like that? well now because of memes i imagine "AMBER REEEEEEEE"
Dominic Foster
the hosts are insufferable which is a shame because some of their guests are cool
Caleb Peterson
wtf I love Kriss now
Liam Morgan
Delete Your Account is great if you're interested in the work that goes into organizing.
Blake Kelly
Is the bottom real or satire?
Bentley Young
Surely satire. Mao was not white.
Mason Myers
Eh, there's something eerie about her face, but I wouldn't call her ugly.
Eli Butler
Can anybody upload the latest premium Cum Town?
Nathan Martinez
I'm always surprised at what a great taste Will has.
Luis Garcia
anyone have the new cumtown premium
Luis Evans
i thought trapo chap house was some sort of podcast about trans people and drug lords and the more i learned about it the more i got disappointed.
Starts strong but then devolves into making fun of people's names for almost 30 minutes. Regret wasting my time listening to that. And it's not like the name "Johnathan Stack" is that funny honestly.
Asher Bell
any update on this comrade??
Aaron Brown
Brendan's impressions of the rest of the Chapo crew was golden. His Felix and Will were great. I was disappointed he didn't bring up elevators and gaming for Virgil.
Cooper Green
Yeah I thought it was initially a bunch of American drug dealers/former drug dealers who had gained class consciousness. Never bothered listening because of this.
Parker James
A bunch of cunts agreeing with each other and calling members of the outgroup dumb.
Zero value.
Benjamin Myers
scathing critique my man
Ryan Ortiz
Patreon won't let me download episode 5 and 6 which is a shame because Dolan has a great story abount Saudi Arabia. I'll get back to uploading shit.
Joseph Robinson
Can somebody tell me what is Virgil's deal?
He doesn't even seem like a real person. I tried to look him up on Facebook and he only has a page under this name for his fans, bit I don't know what his fans are fans of. Is he known for something other than Chapo and just being a Twitter guy in general?
I also noticed he has more followers than the other Chapo boys so I'm curious.
I've also seen several pictures and one video footage of him, and somehow I still don't know what he looks like.
Kevin Thompson
It's obviously not his real name. I've met him IRL at a party, he's a 5"4 sperglord asian dude. I asked him if he really thinks Zizek is racist given he's a commie, he denied it and got really defensive, walked away without answering the question. I think he said his real name isJack but not sure.
He does Karl diggler with Felix, and he is a journo I believe.
I think the reason he has more followers is Karl diggler, and I'm p sure Felix would have more if his original account want banned.
Jeremiah Collins
Virgil is NOT a journalist. He just tweeted literally hundreds of times a day since Twitter was born. He was one of those original "weird twitterers" (before it was called weird Twitter) who lurked FYAD but was intimidated to post there, crawled up his own butthole about the new and subversive things they were doing with Twitter, got embarrassed by it, and now has permanent "irony" induced brain damage that only allows him to think in 140 character quips, references and memes. He's extremely dependent on the Twitter ecosystem and he's hyper-self aware of saying anything that breaks with the norms of that crowd.
Alexander Hernandez
thanks
Brandon Hall
you rule brotendo
Nathaniel Lopez
He'll yea brother. I appreciate u
Isaiah Perry
Were you at the Reds need Green party too?
Nathan King
Yeah it's not like they could actually discuss ideas, that'd be too much to expect.
Christopher Richardson
I just went on twitter and bunch of socdems and soc jus tankies are mad at Mullen? Lol why?
Gabriel James
TBH will's constant stuttering does my head in. And why is matt always shouting from some bathroom?
Lincoln Miller
Some woke nerd just found out he's "racist" and made a callout post and now people are literally arguing whether or not its excellent to do african guy voice lmao
can someone link me the exact mix of el chapo that chapo use for their intro pls?
David Stewart
DJ Smokey - Salute 2 El Chapo pt 1.
I'm on mobile so I can't link.
Carson Hughes
thank you comrade
Matthew Taylor
It actually isn't user
Easton Richardson
I don't frequent twitter so maybe someone could elucidate on this.. Is like, the Todd Hitler side of Twitter leftist shitposterss who hate the dsa for been cosmopolitan liberals or like, ironic leftists from frog twitter?
Jonathan Brooks
*being, whoops
Bentley Sanders
Jesus, I've never listened to cumtown before, but how can anyone stand that guy who constantly laughs like a simpering dipshit?
Jonathan Powell
SRS tho, what is this podcast even about? I don't understand, they've been talking about nothing for like 10 minutes so far
Adam Martin
I honestly feel that without his laugh it would be just another boring comedian podcast that seems dry and sad
Landon Lee
A lot of the stuff he laughs at is funny, but doesn't it bug you when he laughs so hard at stuff that isn't? I want to grab him by the ears and shake him tbh
Tyler Murphy
It's a podcast about cum
Blake Harris
They've talked a lot about dicks, but they haven't said anything about cum so far
Matthew Kelly
Thanks fam appreciate it
Ayden Cox
Listen to the last premium, everybody.
I think it might be legit the worst fucking thing they've ever done. It beats the Wardell episodes by a wide margin.
It's kinda a disappointing episode imo. The guest @leyawn seems kinda shy and I barely noticed he was there. In the beginning they talk about Felix's beef with some shitty rapper and at the end they have another Caleb reading series but the majority of the episode is about the controversy surrounding Garfield's gender that Virgil started. No real discussion about politics. It's funny at times but certainly not one of the better episodes.
I wish they would have brought Nick Mullen back on just to piss everybody off.
Evan Sanders
Garfield's gender is p fucking important dude. One of the defining arguments of our time.
Michael Lewis
With an episode named "garfield" I expected them to discuss Will Menakers' cameo on Sex Survey Results
Blake Brooks
Garfield gender absolutists mad.
Thomas Wright
link?
Thomas Wilson
That dude's twitter pisses me off Bring Back Mullen
Angel Smith
i don't really go to chapo for real discussions about politics if i wanted that i'd listen to this is hell or something
Dominic Stewart
can you post the other caleb episodes?
Ryder Richardson
Yeah I'll find then
Charles Perry
That was an all time great episode. Chapo doesn't always have to be political. That fucking Foxtrot altright bit.
Parker Ramirez
Is Garfield shia or sunni?
Alexander Hall
Imagine permanently looking like a four-year old at their aunt's second wedding.
Cameron Jenkins
Shia, mother fucker. Mondays are oppressive, so they are sunni, which is why Garfield hates them.
Jose Stewart
Cum Town would be so much funnier if Stav and Adam had personalities instead of just agreeing with whatever Nick says
Lucas Ortiz
Stav and Adam are great, but whenever Nick tries to steer the conversation they cave to him. He is the true alpha of the Cum Boys. It is hard to break the natural order.
Bentley Walker
For a first time listener (me) what's there best episode?
Julian Carter
*their. fuck.
Caleb Howard
Sadly I don't have a timestamp but I saw a screencap of a Will Menaker on the movie. Its a four hours long movie, I'm not up to that challenge But supposedly that wasn't our Will, it was a soundalike
Aaron Murphy
The Adam Curtis episode.
Ryder Sullivan
okay thanks. is there somewhere i can dl chapo as mp3 so i can listen while i drive? any more goat episodes?
Brody Howard
The ten crackle commandments episode is one of the funniest things I've ever experienced
Well, I listened to them for the first time. Would be perfect if it wasn't for the main guy doing a fake wheezy laugh and stuttering in response to the other guys. Felix is awesome though.
Brody Davis
That was me. I didn't want to use my real name on the sex survey and I had just listened to an ep of Chapo so it just seemed perfect at the time.
Wyatt Ramirez
But are you a volcel irl?
Joseph Kelly
Hell no, not enough willpower.
Ethan Brooks
Watch, he ends up in one of those ISIS propaganda videos getting chased by 10 year olds with pistols.
Juan Parker
Can't wait for him saying something ironic right before being burning up :)
that would be true martyrdom
When I daydream about Rojava I imagine what witticism I should say in the ISIS propaganda video just before I'm tortured/murdered
Hudson Morris
...
Eli Rogers
"this is good to me actually" *head falls off shoulders*
Mason Cox
On the one hand it would be funny as fuck
On the other hand my family and friends would think I was retarded to spout twitter jokes as my last words
Elijah Sanders
I would happily be murdered by Stalinist if it meant I got a chance to say "so much for the tolerant left" jsut before the guilloutine hit me
Jason Barnes
I'd obviously say a fucking @Dril tweet but….which dril tweet would I say?
Jeremiah Hall
On the subject of last words
Ryan Cox
imagine my stupid trap ass getting decapitated by ISIS while I scream "THIS WHOLE THING SMACKS OF GENDER" or something
Fun show, but they're still a bit too hung up on liberal dogma. The "secret" Walther episode is instructive; they totally sperged out when confronted with someone truly a-liberal, while the weirdo christian remained cool as ice.
I got much faster internet so I'll try again to upload War Nerd Episodes. If someone can remind what number the Caleb episodes are I'll upload the other two.
If you get as much pussy as he does, nothing fazes you anymore.
Parker Peterson
omg this episode was a blast.
Gabriel King
300 as the aut-right Birth of A Nation? makes sense
Michael Edwards
So I just heared the newest episode about 300. The topic about spartans had been bothering me recently, specially because the innocent idea some people I met have about them but this episode nailed my feelings and gave me more reasons to be concerned yet I feel good because my concerns were validated, is such an odd feeling but so good.
Sebastian Butler
Isn't Felix the biggest pussy-getter of the three though?
I always get disappointed when I see this thread bumped and it isn't someone uploading a new premium Chapo or Cum Town.
Jack Garcia
Definitely informative, though that guy was obviously spooked as all hell
Justin Lee
If you'll allow me to engage in Spectacle for a moment, I'm so mad that Zack Snyder is going to be let anywhere near Aquaman with the new JL movie, since Atlantis is basically a mix of every classically Western thing, being simultaneously Romans, Medieval knights and Vikings. But what's important is that it's treated as a heavily flawed and reactionary society that's rigidly stratified addled by blood-and-soil ideology, and Aquaman's job as king is basically to steer Atlantis away from that.
Snyder is looking at that society and just seeing a chance to do Sparta again and will probably have Momoa act like the very people Aquaman usually has to fight against, like the people who say he shouldn't be allowed to rule because of his mixed race.
Asher Myers
Stop being a freeloader, user. Man fuck no.
Carter White
Web series? Matt is moving to NYC, so they'll all be together.
Nolan Garcia
B-BUT MY WIFE'S J-JOB
Ryan Lewis
Fuck Aquaman's pr! This movie needs to fail harder than all others before!
'Queen tankie Molly Klein — a fabulously rich heiress who grew up next to the Toscanini mansion on Wave Hill, daughter of the dude who invented PlayboyTV — routinely smears anyone who crosses her as “racist,” including the young black DSA member, Douglas Williams.'
This is beyond parody. Hope she appreciates the Irony.
Brandon Hall
I'm so autistically angry at how chaotic and disorganized the War Nerd's Patreon page is
Ian Cruz
Tbf the guy is probably used to people being bewildered by his christian weirdo beliefs, it took Amber to bait out a response.
Jason Torres
...
Jaxon Fisher
She is constantly doxxing leftists on Twitter while shitposting in her mansion. I unironically want to see Molly Klein murdered.
chapo boys live comment on a dystopian Steven Seagal libertarian movie
Daniel Young
love that boy
Nathan Powell
So if 300 is the founding movie of the aut right Hamilton is the founding of the idpol liberals?
Blake Hill
hamilton is a little late to be idpol lib's founding play. I know the washington libs view the west wing as their founding show though.
Sebastian Bennett
Now that is an interesting topic, what's liberal's funding movie?
Nathaniel Jones
my candidate
Gavin Edwards
Not a movie, it's Stewart era Daily Show.
Christopher Hall
I would say The West WIng and the Daily Show are tied for being modern liberalisms founding show.
Nicholas Cruz
Are you kidding? 300 episode was fucking hilarious
Oliver Anderson
All of the most recent episodes have been great. The Garfield episode is a classic in my opinion. It doesn't always have to be political.
Landon King
garf is shia
Zachary Ward
But I mean, idpol liberals, you know the tumblr crowd with made up genders.
Henry Sanders
The Foxtrot family is alt-right
Gavin Foster
i don't understand the op, but is this an e-celeb thread? mods?
Gavin Green
kind of and the mods already set it to cyclical. im p sure its pkay with them
Logan Brooks
This thread predates the e-celeb thread significantly and is used to share well-appreciated content and discussion. Untwist your panties
Evan Collins
Question for thread: do you guys know which are the Rod Drehercore episodes? I'm a bit of a fan. And if any of them are premium, where to find them?
Aaron Ross
there is amega with the premium episodes ITT
Brandon Gonzalez
Episode 10
Jordan Roberts
Comrades, friends, trash, can you help me with something? I regularly read Rod Dreher for raw entertainment value and the odd insightful thought, and I'd like to know what all the Drehercore episodes are, and where to find the premium ones if there are any. Thanks in advance!
Xavier Long
The episodes labeled Basketball Snob and Elfquest have what you need.
that was probably one of their best episodes. no idea why they made it premium
Ethan Evans
Can I post this in a twitter reply to the chapo account, I dont want this to be shutdown, but I dont want poor people to pay these millionaires 5 bucks
Oliver Turner
It's split between 6 people there not millionaires
Jaxson Wright
anyone who has more than 1000 buckos in the bank is a millionaire in my book
Alexander Bell
once again anarchists are bad at theory :)
Nolan Wilson
Do you guys know any podcast that can help me understand the situation in the middle east and US foreign policy? I'm a non-burger so I usually don't focus on this stuff.
Donations are the same as acquiring capital, because you see, Capital means just being rich.
By the way my name is Andrew Chu and I don't understand what selling out means.
Luis Turner
I hope I get to serve with Major Gen. Lt. Biederman on the incoming revolutionary war
Connor Baker
I'm proud at how much valor he's stolen.
Michael Mitchell
That David Hayter episode of Scumbag was a slog, even though it's still cool they were able to land him. I certainly wasn't expecting him to be a hard socialist, but he really has swallowed the liberal ideology whole, like he doesn't really get what the games he's worked on convey.
Oliver Robinson
Zitron is porky.
Henry Mitchell
those clusters tho
Jordan Williams
BO go on cum town
Luis Ortiz
The unlocked ep was p solid. As a dude working in healthcare who bills for his services, all that shit about facilities finding the optimal CPT code for monetary trepanning was 100% accurate
Also Faust is literally goofy
John Taylor
Not a podcast but this blog is really informative.
It is kind of irritating how the games journalism equivalent of the "revolving door" is P.R. even though I still kinda like Alex Navarro in spite of the hate he gets.
Gabriel Russell
Are they going to make one about climate change sometime? Also, this came at the perfect time TBH.
Oliver Hughes
What's Alex Navarro's connection with Chapo and why does he get hate? I've heard him mention Chapo and he's always posting in the same twittersphere as them. I started following Giant Bomb a lot more because they don't seem to fall into either side of the gaming idpol and actually talk about games. I like the Beastcast guys a lot more than the Bombcast.
Isaiah Sanders
For some reason I want one of the Chapo boys, or one of the Drunken Peasants one either of their respective podcasts just for possible radicalization.
Unfortunately it doesn't show the top tweet unless you cough up the bux
Austin Campbell
Some of the hate he gets is purely political, the fact that he is more openly left than the rest of the GB crew, and occasionally makes it part of his guiding principle for the takes he makes. So a bunch of halfchan people got mad at him for swaying for Palmer Luckey to be "mess of the year" rather than No Man's sky. There are some things outside of that that are more of an argument, that he talks about his depression too often, or that he favors the American indie scene too much, for example making Firewatch the Best Story winner over Zero Time Dilemma. I've got depression myself so maybe him talking about it runs off easier than someone else, the main thing I've noticed is that he's easily ticked off by things that disrupt the usual game-company-to-media pipeline: I think both the Joel McHale appearance on the game awards and the official sonic the hedgehog account had a vital antagonism to the established relationship between game companies and the media which carries out their message, even if they necessitate this swaggering overconfidence in how it's presented. Alex has seethed about both.
William Gonzalez
halfway through and this is the best episode for a good few months already
Angel Green
He's a Grey Wolf and DSA member. He's been at some of the live shows.
Liam Bailey
300 episode is work of art
Jack Fisher
Yeah I liked that episode a lot. My only criticism is I think they underestimate how malevolent the motivations of US foreign policy elites are. Still the stuff they say about the media shaping public opinion and the whole "when you have a hammer everything looks like a nail" aspect of having such a giant military is spot on.
Liam Wood
The end of ep 10 has some funny Dreher-kicking
Jacob Garcia
holy shit the Aaron Sorkin School of Anime Screen Writing fucking owns
The latest war Nerd is in there but i'll warn you half the episode is about literature. They shit on Joseph Conrad and recommend Naipul and Kapuściński. They conclude in Syria that the SAA probably did carry out the gas attack but it was probably the act of a local commander and not the Lion of Damascus.
Anthony Collins
Alex is just boring as fuck.
Justin Clark
Do you have #17/#37?
Ayden Carter
Yeah I'll upload it
Dylan Long
shes fingolian
if marx were around today he would listen to cum town and write an essay "on the Chapo Question"
Jacob Moore
NOICE
now i can listen to chapo without funding the US intelligence apparatus, you dun did a solid mah nig
interested in the adam one in particular, them IS-ra-He-lis, wew, thats a bunch ill tell ya
hmmm the plot thickens
Carter Reed
is that a p-90 lul what a fucking mall ninja thats hilarious I bet its a solid indicator of how he fights, fucking yuppie gaymer boy I am of laff
Ian Turner
love you man
Aaron Evans
Adam on Chapo almost makes up for Cum Town being late.
Jackson Gomez
I'm getting sick of this shit tbh. Someone tell that 30 year old to stop acting too cool/jaded to care about his podcast and apply himself
Liam Gutierrez
Felix was something else in that last episode
Jonathan Lopez
Adam retelling the lyft story and Felix's Andy Ancap were the best parts. hilarious
Jose Martinez
Oh hell ya Just realized the next episode is #100
Justin Diaz
Holy shit that fucking black mirror bit
Jaxson Howard
that elevator bit
Isaac Ortiz
Felix absolutely killed it.
Noah Ward
he killed on the zionazi ep, thanks again upload user, listened to it yesterday, what a damning portrayal of those nutbags, I think adam is my favorite gayboy-lipped kike
chapo once again being their usual western liberal selves, first they blamed that retarded raid on the dahnald when it was long in planning beforehand, second of all amber shutting down felix when he started talking about the fact that killary was going to happily arm all the banderista fucktards in Ukraine
fyi you can get the premo eps of cumtown on the cumreddit, someone is always uploading them along with any cumboy features on other shows its a decent resource, stav was on some gay ass pod recently that costs 3 dorra
Aaron Kelly
also you know he cant do that bruh, its a balancing act
Hunter Murphy
if you want some non western-liberal info that isnt constantly fellatiating the kurds(Im pro kurd for the most part but the bias is obvious among lefties) definitely check out Ryan Dawson, Newsbud, Fortruss/sputnik/rt crowd, all those sources will lead you to other sources that are semi-legit and arent permeated with western interventionist propaganda
Jaxson Wright
I think we listened to different episodes tbh. I remember the Syria strike episode to be basically 60/40 liberal reaction bashing/trump bashing
Grayson Peterson
I mean the first(?) adam episode, mega user has it as "zionist summer camp", its a bit older was pretty much right after the dahnald win
ill check out the other one tonight for sure, someone needs to do an analysis of chapo point by point, the good and the bad and the ugly. Im probably not qualified
Connor Parker
Yeah I mean it's definitely light on theory and frequently have weak arguments for some of their positions (though I think Matt is better than the rest on this regard, and in person definitely holds his own the best on policy/history details when it comes to serious convo).
Personally I'm going to say their indispensable because of their ability to normalize disdain for the Democratic Party and popularize searches for alternate solutions to the current system. In the future when hopefully they aren't unique in this regard I'd be happy to critique them more heavily on their weaker points
Kevin Ward
You're parroting Sean Spicer talking points. That specific raid wasn't planned months before. The Pentagon proposed a general plan to the Obama administration that would expand the scope of operations in Yemen (including raids). Obama decided to leave that decision to the incoming administration. Trump owns the raid.
Oliver Jackson
What the fuck does that have to do with the blog I posted? The dude isn't in favor of intervention.
Joseph Brooks
Does anyone have episode 99
Nicholas Rivera
fuck sorry that was meant for this guy:
Dominic Miller
theyre definitely unique right now there is no denying that, time will tell I guess
Landon Butler
Who /hype/ for whatever pic related is
Carson Carter
Looks like a bracket tournament of shitty political personalities.
Cameron Murphy
I guess not
Grayson Scott
see
Jack Nguyen
I don't see it in the list what's it called
Gavin Campbell
Friedland Trap House For future reference you can always sort by "date created" on the right side to see which one is the latest addition
Jace Cox
ya just noticed that, but thanks for pointing it out
Angel Gomez
Also does anyone else on here use the subreddit
Owen Brown
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Dominic Rogers
holy shit how have i just seen this?
must be awfully soul-shattering to not even have a paying job nowadays, to have got yourself and your friends blacklisted, and to see people who aren't even trying that hard to get fucking paid
i guess not being a lame nazi shitbag would help
Benjamin Ramirez
Also seconding The Dollop. Two lefty (legit left, not just liberal Hollywood) comedians reading lesser-known historical accounts of American history. I've been listening to them for a few years now, so it was a pleasant surprise that there a couple of Dollop/CTH crossover pods coming up
Jacob Davis
They did a live show at Harvard. This is their bracket for worst person to come out of haaaavaaad.
I remember the election night show was filmed and was released to subscribers but someone posted the Vimeo link here. If any of you kindly anons want to do that again (*if* it was filmed, dunno) that would be much appreciated hint hint
Colton Carter
can you include the free episodes too?
Nathan Allen
They're all on soundcloud though
Adrian Martinez
pretty sure that was weev lel hes was worried his nazi buddies would…not approve of him going on a cum podcast
Nathaniel Young
Yeah, the video they mentioned in one of their episodes really made me feel bad for him tbh youtu.be/oIDYbT2yYis
Connor Ortiz
yeah but then i need to hack into soundcloud to download them to listen while i drive. that's not fair.
No problem. You aren't dumb btw, there's no links to the rss feed anywhere on soundcloud. The rss feeds exist mostly for podcasting apps to use, not many people know about them tbh
Wyatt Moore
I dont really find hyde funny but he has a few weird ass rants on his yt channel that are decent in the sense that you end up thinking about them later and just kinda shaking your head
oh and the one about having basic computer skills thats pretty legit, and the fucking ted talk
hes an overhyped mildly offputting faggot but a few of his things were unique enough to be something, show was pretty fucking meh imo except for the 15sec of Jews Rock!
he probably could have become an actual comic eventually, he should have done more stand up and bombed more to git gud
also i love that you fucking sheltered retards call him a nazi, hes obviously a cliche wigger or at least he was until this thing started
you fucking niggers need to stop throwing the N word around willy-nilly
holy shit hes losing his goddamned mind i think its an improvement but he looks like shit
back in january or so nick hyped up possibly having sam on, but it didn't work out
on the earlier eps they talked about having him on, too, and he wrote something on the internet that was like "i'd like to, but we can't do it because too much drama" or something
James King
what if we all pitched in and yelled "sam go on chapo/cumtown?"
Jose Ward
We still haven't gotten the midweek Cum Town. Did Mullen actually kill himself?
Parker Martin
friederlander was just on chapo so probably not
Aaron Evans
maybe it was recorded before his death
Julian Flores
what if you record dozens of podcasts trashing your mate, and then your mate kills himself
what if you could edit and manipulate old audio of your deceased podcast mate to keep your show going
what if you could write text and have a program read it on his voice
what if you commit suicide and a computer uses your 33k tweets to create an algorithm version of you
Andrew Wood
you are in a coma, you just need to WAKE UP
Logan Morris
t. charlie brooker
David Jenkins
I completely understand transphobia, because I also don't know how to interact with people who have mental disorders.
Lucas Flores
Yeah man, I tried to understand a lot of these "comedians" who are coming out as conservatives and shit, but they're all pretty dumb. I can think of 1 who actually does stand-up, and his shit sucks. Conservative are just dumb and unfunny people.
Caleb Turner
I can see him on CumTown, but there's no way he'd ever go on Chapo.
Luis Adams
...
Sebastian Hughes
A lot of them did stand-up for a relly long time and now think that the recent comedy c ulture has made stand-up pretty much not funny, and they're right. You have on one end people whos whole bit is "you know, I just think it's its funny that women make 70 cents ont eh dollar compared to men. I don't know, that's just funny to me. And we say women are sluts but men are studs. What's t he deal with that?" and the other end is racist non-jokes like "I was stuck in an elevator with a person o f x race and i was horrified by how dirty and backwards their people are"
Lucas Sanders
New Sperm City is on mediafire boys
Eli Phillips
In one of the episode, I think a premium one, they were shitting on Zizek a little bit on trans stuff. Are they idpolyps?
Christopher Wilson
I don't remember this but even if this were true it just sounds like they run afoul of your particular choice of idpol
but seriously post ep if you wanna discuss it
Brandon Perez
I seem to remember that was sam kriss who hates zizek with a passion for some reason
Jacob Murphy
Duh, haven't you noticed? They go for black jokes when it comes to class issues, but when it is idpol, they get legitimately angry, especially that one with the low-t voice.
i was at this, it was pretty fun. some fucking weirdo got offended at their "shit analysis" of Obama's drone campaign, and he was all huffy and kept trying to interrupt. dude looked like a total shitlib who just showed up to get offended at shit they said. good show though, it was pretty funny to be there live.
Samuel Gutierrez
Do you actually go to harvard or just going to see the show
John Wilson
i just went to see the show, but i go to school in the area
Owen Hernandez
Ahh
Robert Butler
why do you ask?
Christian Williams
like what?
delight
Isaac Peterson
The whole uber for ubermenschen episode was a good example.
Henry James
yeah, its nb. it manages to be a bit of an enclave from the more annoying parts of reddit.
Carter Taylor
OFFICIAL CHAPO POWER RANKINGS Matt=Amber >> Felix > Will >>>>> Virgil
Logan Reyes
Brenden is the greatest of all
Aiden Clark
i actually agree with this.
Jordan White
Felix>>Will>>Matt=Amber>>>>>>Virgil
Justin Jones
Matt > Felix > Will > Amber > Virgil here
But after listening to Diggcast, Frost/Christman, Scumbag and so on I'm starting to think Will might be the mvp. He's really good at giving direction and structure to the conversation, and without it all of them just seem to waste their potential.
Jaxon Baker
Felix >…> the rest
Noah Bell
Gonna have to agree with this
Josiah Evans
100th episode a shit
this
Lucas Walker
Yeah. They should've limited the whole evil Harvard graduates thing for about 45 minutes and done a different thing in later half.
Jaxson Bell
There's an episode without will - it was shit. There's an episode without matt - it was great (admittedly the guest was good)
Andrew White
Nobody's favorite is the straight man, but they're important to give structure
Joshua Brown
This is pretty much it, Will is the backbone of the show. I don't find him as funny as the rest (excepting the reading series) but without him the show would IMO go to shit.
Jonathan Taylor
Harvard episode was pretty fun but I wish there was video so we could see all the pictures that everyone was laughing at. Also, Zuckerberg beating Bloomberg was fucking bullshit.
Logan Jackson
This is extremely correct.
Mason Ross
I honestly wish Matt and Amber would just take up a whole episode to explain Marxism to Will and Felix, they could cover some basic theory, talk about the historical background of the Revolutions of 1848 and the Paris Commune, talk about the First International, go into the Russian Revolution, cover some basic Leninism, Felix could shitpost irl, and Will would ask insightful questions. It'd make a good pod.
Gabriel Lee
When is Frost/Christman coming back? It was the shit. Also, what's Scumbag?
Easton Sanchez
I would say Brenden>Matt=Amber=Felix but otherwise you are correct
James Hernandez
Scumbag is Felix's other podcast that he does with Ed Zitron, some rich piece of shit who pays irony twitter people to be his friend.
Nathaniel Moore
New Alex Jones ep when?
Isaiah Nelson
Ask them to do something like that. More explicit Marxism could only be a good thing for the podcast.
Jack Reyes
Why is Felix friends with this guy? He seems like the exact type of successwin dipshits they make fun on constantly on Chapo?
Chase Collins
Someone already brought this up on Will's curiouscat
Aiden Hernandez
That would be awesome. Even though they talk about Socialism pretty frequently most of their audience is definitely Berniecrats and pissed off Liberals who are definitely scared of Marx, if not completely petrified, and let's not even get into Lenin, but talking about Marx and actually delving into theory and economics now and again could do a lot to actually sway these people to the Left.
Jace Cruz
They should have Slavoj Zizek on.
Luke Davis
I also want to know this.
Owen Young
I think Ed's trying to make fun of the success win guys but yeah I don't really like him either. He knows a bit about marketing and the tech industry but when it comes to politics he always says something like "well I'm a moderate". How the fuck are you a moderate if you agree with everything Felix says? That other guy Jesse Farrar sucks too.
They had that episode with David Hayter and it was really disappointing to learn Hayter was basically just an Obama/Clinton Democrat. Anyway during that conversation with Hayter, Ed mentioned he was worried that Teresa May mentioned God in a speech. Is Britain really so secular that it's some frighting and newsworthy event when a politician mentions God? Aren't the Tories full of religious conservatives and many Labour members part of Christians on the Left?
Cameron Reyes
That would either be hilarious or an utter disaster.
Brayden Powell
Yeah, the David Hayter episode was the first episode I tried to listen to, because I wanted to hear an unfiltered Felix nerd out about Metal Gear without Matt and Will reigning him in, but it was too cringy and I had to stop about half way through. Between Zitron's brainlet-tier political opinions and Hayter regurgitating MSNBC talking points it was tough to keep interested. I obviously have no problem with Felix having lame basic af Liberal normie friends, but it seems like a waste of his talent, who's this podcast even for?
Angel Edwards
Judging from Zizek's recent appearance on Doug Lain's Zero Squared podcast, I'd place my money on utter disaster. Zizek is a great theorist, and an even greater orator, but he's absolutely terrible at actually talking to people, he has a tendency to talk "at" people instead of "to" people, he also seems to suffer from a nearly pathological need to disagree with whoever he's talking to, even if it makes him contradict with himself, it's simultaneously his biggest charm and his biggest neuroses.
Caleb Cruz
Also, any of you Gray Wolves listen to Zero Squared? They've had Amber on twice, good shit. I want to see Doug Lain on Chapo tbh
Liam Martinez
He's from rhizzone where people hate Zizek more than they do most Nazis.
Xavier Bell
Yeah, I get the distinct impression Zizek is something of a pedant sometimes. That said, in hindsight of the election, his notion that electing Trump would help get leftism back into gear was sort of right.
Easton Edwards
Rhizzone as in the internet forum? Is this another weird Something Awful connection? Is every fucking Leftist on twitter from SA and FYAD? Or am I completely autistic and is this completely unrelated?
Ryan Watson
I was afraid to admit it for a long time, especially because people were being literally beheaded for saying it, and people were calling Zizek a literal Fascist and Nazi, but he was right tbh, and it's been obvious that he's been right since at least February. Trump's election, and the undeniability of Hilary's failure's, as well as the failures of the Obama administration in general, and the degree to which the DNC despises and is disgusted by actual Left politics, are some of the best things to happen to the Left in a long time.
Logan Gray
Ya don't say?
The only format that works with Zizek is one where questions are asked and he gets to talk for about half an hour. Would only work on Chapo if they had only two people max who almost don't talk (Will and maybe Matt; Felix is wasted on silence).
Jackson Evans
Also, is Something Awful still a thing? Is it really how all the Chapo Boys first met? How did it end up being ground zero for the OG Vulgar Left?
Austin Edwards
The Chapo boys met on Twitter and through street fight radio. Felix posted on MMA forums and maybe SA. A lot of the people in the Chapo orbit certainly posted SA or Rhizzone but I don't think Matt, Will or Amber ever did.
Hudson Roberts
I know Rhizone is a Deleuze reference, but what's the internal culture of the forum like? Are they all theoryfags? Tankies? Badiouians? I'm just curious because I've never been there and want to know where they're coming from with the Zizek hate.
Jeremiah Barnes
I've only been to Rhizzone once so I couldn't really tell you about it.
Sam Kriss was one of the shows guests and is also a lacanian Marxist. It's Sam that has beef with Zizek.
Dominic Scott
I think Rhizzone is more tankie than anything but I wouldn't say all it's members are.
Joseph Allen
Actually, Sam Kriss's essays on Zizek on his website are pretty good critiques coming from a more traditional Lacanian/Marxist perspective, it's just that the initial post made it seem like most people on Rhizzone hate Zizek I assume that they dislike Zizek for the same reasons, for not being a particularly faithful Marxist, and being more of a PoMo provocateur then anything else. I like Zizek, but it's undeniable that's he's afraid to actually be a Marxist, or to say things a Marxist would say, and even when he does it's always prefaced with a million caveats about how he "thinks this, but actually doesn't, because Marxism is naive, but actually it's not", it's fucking tiresome tbh. But yeah, I still think Marxists have more to learn from reading Zizek then resisting him, even if he is kind of a shitty Marxist.
Adam Bell
I want Based Kriss to redpill the Chapo Boys on Mao, Lacan, and Badiou.
Christian Richardson
New episode out
Requesting piracy, repeat, requesting piracy
Henry Jenkins
Piracy please, heroic mega uploader.
Adam Nguyen
Weird, I'm a patron but the new episode doesn't seem to be up for me. I just listened to the teaser though.
Nolan Richardson
I don't see anything
Camden Baker
I think they saw the teaser and assumed it was already up on Patreon.
Ian Parker
Yup, I just assumed the teaser was a way of displaying their dominance over non patrons
Adam Campbell
Cucked by chapo again damn it
Dominic Phillips
hype
Zachary Reyes
If Professor Wolff went on Chapo I'd cum
Jackson Young
What if they got the Wolfman on Cum Town?
Caleb Ward
I actually used to assume that too before I became a patron kek
Robert Robinson
I don't understand why people like Wolff so much. He's a shitty Marxist. Really only like that he's pushing liberals left.
Easton Turner
I agree, ""market"" socialism is pretty shit-tier, but he's valuable specifically because he's good at talking to Liberals, same goes for Harvey (who I also kind of dislike because he rejects LTV). Either way, it's the best we're gonna get comrade, and I welcome more open unabashed Marxism on the show, even if it's slightly bastardized.
Ryder Hall
You probably want him to repeat all the shit he says in his lectures too amirite?
Adrian Murphy
...
Angel Allen
eerily spot on
Ryan Brown
We need to demolish that fucking thing
Josiah Miller
Anyone?
Eli Foster
New Greywolf episode out on the West Wing.
Hudson Howard
=BEEP BOOP BEEP BOOP, REQUESTING PIRATES OVER AND OUT=
Dylan Myers
I swear blanquism is the dominate current of the American left.
Are Mullen and Amber fucking? Felix moved out, but those two still live together. Amber is always in the background of Cum Town episodes.
Noah Allen
Amber makes such bad points sometimes
Jason Baker
this might surprise you but people don't really give a shit about facts and data
David Reyes
Yeah that was a really bad way of phrasing it but the point stands that you will never be "objectively correct" when it comes to political consensus so framing yourself as such is naive wankery
Chase Martin
This is your brain on liberalism wonkish Vox cancer
Jaxson Morris
That is the thing we need most, you dumbass
If just 10% of liberals become communists, we become a hugely important political faction
Joseph Taylor
I feel like we should have a sequel where they go over the newsroom
Ryan Martinez
That really suprises me user. It might be just as surprising to you, but they don't care a lot about morality and good vs evil either
Havent listened to the episode yet but the article is fun
Ethan Gutierrez
So 300 is the movie for the aut right The west wing is the series for liberals What do we have?
Nathaniel Garcia
Battlestar Galactica had some posadism vibes.
Connor Adams
Name?
Ethan Smith
I almost unironically became an anarchist due to "Snowpiercer". As for socialism, Ken Loach stuff? Mr Robot is trying and failing. Nothign I can immediatly point out
I recently wrote an essay on cinema and its impact on the ideas of urbanism. The most interesting era is that of Shanghai in the 30s. Two of the three major film studios were unrironically managed by communists. This lead to a lot of Marxist cinema. Often the main character would be a young rural woman who moved into the city and has to prostitute herself to survive the hard conditions of urban capitalism. So the main populist cultural propaganda tools are essentially advocating for Maoism, and 10 years later Mao has the power. Very interesting case study in how art can smash society and not merely imitate it.
Ernst Tählmann is the German marxist movie I think
James Reyes
what do they care about then?
Cooper Adams
make me wait again and i'll slit your throat
Wyatt Bell
rude and uncool
Lincoln Watson
I actually took a class in Chinese cinema and we watched so many of those early films. I can't remember any of their names now though
Kevin Mitchell
A combination of appealing them to their self-interest, giving a vision of a better future, and establishing an enemy/scapegoat.
Basically socialist/soc-dem economics with an anti-establishment framing of politics as the people vs. the elite.
Christopher Roberts
who said anything about morality and good vs evil? you tell people a story, you give them a vision of the future in which they're happier than they are now, you tickle their feels and they'll run to the voting booth.
Nolan Scott
Holy fuck that new Cum Town tho
Angel Carter
Amber did in the quote that started this conversation you fucking dimwit. Stop trying to make points if you can't keep track of an argument for two fucking posts
Their own material self-interest and something to provide an outlet for personal anxieties and insecurities, both of which will require facts to convince people
Evan James
West wing
Fair
Nathaniel Sanders
Even if she did, it doesn't change the point: data and facts won't do shit
James Moore
got a timestamp for that? I don't remember her saying it. I presume you're talking about the newest episode, west wing?
Camden Lewis
can some xir here redbull me on the must-hear premium episodes?
Benjamin Thompson
Don't try to save face by asking me to re-listen to an 1-hour podcast so I can come up with a timestamp for you. Just apologize like a good boy and you're forgiven
Ian Howard
That would be the good part, the bad part would be Adam trying to sound smart and talk to Wolff as if they're men of similar ilk
Does anybody have Amber's curiouscat? I remember seeing a link to it back in December. We should try to get her or Matt to go on a more overtly radical leftist podcast like Discourse Collective to further redpill a lot of their SocDem audience.
Seems dead, what a shame. I know she's not on twitter either. Podcast crossovers seem like the easiest way to get the Sandernista portion of their fanbase to move further left but there's only like 2 podcasts like that I can think of- DC and DeleteYourAccount.
Does anyone else think this general should be deleted and merged into a new one just called Lefty Podcast General or something? That way we could have a constant flow of new updates and episodes almost daily in one thread instead of just focusing on Chapo. I mean it's great and all but I think there should be a designated thread specifically for all podcasts, not just Chapo and Crew.
Tyler Powell
yeah I'd be good with this. it would help clean up the catalogue, too, because people who want to discuss other podcasts just create threads
John Moore
Is anybody here a MDE/Sam Hyde fan?
I ask this because WIll, Felix, Nick, Adam and Stav have all said they enjoy his shit, and I'm genuinely puzzled because I think he's Steven Crowder-tier
Ayden Anderson
Which one of Chapo are the new ones? Did you get those other two as well?
Cooper Richardson
hmmmmmmmm
I think Amber should be below Felix even if she's less lefty. Virgil should be equal to or above Will because he's really funny and does good work
Here's a bunch of reddit philosophy nerds shitting on it. When its Vox and Marx you just know it will be shit
Aiden Ramirez
when its vox and anything you know it will be shit
Justin Sullivan
...
Dominic Myers
That feels like it was written in 5 minutes. Keeps saying that Marx got things "wrong", but doesn't really expand on anything nor it cites any critic beyond a random quote from Camus…
Nicholas Butler
Take it to /leftytrash/
Luke Watson
Anyone else think there's too many Chapos on in any episode? Personally I think it would be better if it was 2 (max 3) at a time plus a guest.
Jordan Allen
Alternatively they could just have longer episodes so everyone can talk
Will always shuts down Felix's MGS analogies and shit, öet the podcast breathe man
Logan Baker
What's the chance of getting Jimmy Dore on Chapo?
Lincoln Nelson
dunno, does he have an interesting story to tell?
2bh it's matt who i always notice speaking over everyon else.
Daniel Jenkins
They've talked about him/MDE a few times now I think even Nick and Stav are curious where it all went wrong
I think the consensus is "had good shit (like 2070 paradigm) once, now is a weird reactionary faggot"
Grayson Cook
still think having a centralized lefty pod discussion and one not exclusive to Chapo would be good
I kind of agree with that last part, only in that I want to minimize the number of humans we put into cages. But focusing on the sentencing and punishment misses the point–people who could be effectively punished with public spectacles like flogging or stocks aren't likely to be violent offenders in the first place. So instead of focusing on the punishment, focus on the laws that criminalize their behavior.
I AM AN OATHKEEPER AND THIS IS NOW A CONSTITUTIONAL COURT
Juan Allen
That and Juicero were the only ggood bits. The guest was boring as fuck.
Adam Morris
I started listening to the Hell of a Way to Die podcast yesterday, going back through old episodes. It's good… it's 3 lefty former military dudes shooting the shit about foreign policy and conflict news and telling war stories.
Chapo is friends with them and help promote their stuff. Matt and Felix have been on, but their eps are only for subscribers. Anyway, I just wanted to say that one of the reasons CTH is good is because they recommend other good stuff
I also highly recommend Hell of a Way to Die. The left is going to need to attract some veterans if were ever going to have a revolution or gain mass support. You see twitter tankies act like every soldier is a fascist thug when in reality most are broke kids who who needed money, healthcare and an education.
The one thing about the show that bothers me is that Adrian for whatever reason sympathies Ukrainian nationalists. On one of the premiums he interviews a former Swedish neo-nazi fighting for the Azov battalion and considers him a friend. I think he also collaborated with Micheal Weiss on some Ukraine stuff. I like Adrian but I don't get why he decides to shill for Ukraine. Obviously it's not like Russia and the separatists are innocent either but cmon man.
Parker Murphy
I get being nationalistic for Ukraine over Russia, Ukraine has been raped so many times by Russia. I recently wrote a paper on the Makhnovishina, I feel sad for Ukraine
But talking to Sweish nazis is disgusting if you aint critical. Not good propaganda at all
Alexander Richardson
I'm actually incredibly lazy but thanks for the praise. I do try to upload chapo as soon as it comes out but sometimes I fall asleep or whatever and I'm a few hours late.
Wyatt Stewart
I can promise you no one is gonna slit your throat comrade
Blake Long
I'm still thinking of her boobs
Sebastian Stewart
I understand wanting to a free and independent Ukraine, I'd love to see that too. My real criticism is that he tends to downplay the far-right element. When minorities in Ukraine are under threat by fascist thugs and a good deal of National Guardsmen happen to be Nazis, as leftist you can't ignore it.
To be fair I don't subscribe so I haven't heard the full interview yet so I don't know if he challenged him on some points but when Francis was on Street fight he said Adrian considered their Swedish guest a friend so I'd guess not.
I wasn't really too worried about it.
Colton Martinez
I haven't heard that particular episode either, and I'm still going through past (free) eps, but I did hear the other two make reference to Adrian interviewing/chasing down Ukrainian Nazis. I took it as him simply wanting to cover all sides of the conflict… but like I said, I just started listening yesterday.
You're right about this>>1614131 I kind of believe that's the underlying sentiment behind the podcast. That and to lend leftist voices and examination to an institution traditionally viewed as exclusively right-wing.
you can be friendly with a neo-nazi-ish person without agreeing with them on much or it could be irony? I dunno have literally not listened to a single episode, but it sounds fun!
I had a course called "intro to Ukraine" or something like that, the lecturer was Ukrainian himself so everything should be taken with a grain of salt, but the impression I got from the course and folllowing media about Ukraine is that the literal nazi stuff is overplayed, sure Poroshenko and his ilk are corrupt and such but nazis or fascists are nowhere near power, as Ukraine is multi ethnic and lingual any "fascistoid" political movement is sort of counter to the idea of Ukraine. In the start of the war neo-nazi/far right militias played a significant role at the very start of the war, as in many wars where the central government is weak.
Had a convo with the guy about Holodomor, I questioned him about it after class, I could notice the "genocide" claim he was making feeling pretty thin but I didnt push too hard as he had family in Ukraine at that time, he was clearly upset with me questioning his narrative (I was respectful).
Clearly horrible crimes have been committed against Ukraine, you could even say that some of the pillaging of 1921 was genocidal, its just sad that the tragic history of a proud people becomes subject of geo-politics.
I wouldnt mind letting them call Holodomor a genocide unless it justified hate against Russia and hate against communism, as well as obviously cheapening the term. Anyhow its important to remember that there are actual human being who died in Ukraine due to poor Soviet management before you ridicule the pain of their relatives. But its a hard line to walk between respecting Ukrainians and letting them spout capitalist propaganda.
How do you solve this riddle?
Andrew Wilson
Who is this semen demon
Aiden Watson
nice porn but you need to spoiler it
Hunter Reyes
@vinterflamma
Liam Price
I believe he does but the Russians think he's CIA and won't talk to him. The Ukrainians were more willing to open up and somewhere along the way he started sympathizing with their struggle.
The guy he interviewed claims to be an ex-nazi but the fact he's in the Azov Battalion which was infamous for the far-right sympathies of it's members makes the "ex" part a little suspicious to me.
Jack Bell
Thanks comrade, love you
Carson Rogers
Absolutely.
If we can get like a 21st century Smedley Butler I'll cum buckets.
He's to the midwest what PPG is to the middle east
Nolan Hill
Already in there. It should be labeled Candyman or Caleb.
Eventually I'll number all the episodes.
Luis Kelly
I don't think they were referring to the US govt there, more the average liberal normie moron who thinks the US govt should do something because of the horror we've seen unfolding in Syria but can't even think what something should mean besides "bomb more". But yeah, that was a great episode - the hour flew by. Alex Pareene was a really good guest.
Cameron Fisher
I'm gonna shill for a couple other podcasts.
The latest Behind the News is great. They talked about the french elections. In the second half they had a girl from Georgia critique liberal feminism and talk about how the leaders of her country are trying to turn in into a free market libertarian paradise.
Jacobin Radio just had a good interview with Tariq Ali about Lenin and y'all should give it a listen.
Why the fuck does he look like Sexual Jumanji's brother?
Ryder Anderson
IS THIS WOMAN SERIOUSLY NOT ASIAN
Jose Gutierrez
finngol
Juan Wood
I learned about chapo from Trump winning though
Michael Morgan
let me be VERY clear…. Big Boss is NOT an anarcho-communist!!!
Julian Sullivan
You just made me realise that you can pirate premmium episodes by sharing the link that comes with them on Patreon.
Connor Gomez
yeah watching their anxiety about not being able to ridicule Democrats that night is weird who would've guessed libs would lose their minds so entirely in the following months
Carson Wood
felix's french accent made this ep almost unlistenable
it felt like matt was the only guy speaking from a position of knowledge on that ep, they should have gotten an "expert" for this one + adomian
Levi Wood
agreed, that accent got pretty rough
Jonathan Nelson
Latest episode of Whale Vomit was really good, it's like Chapo but if everyone involved knew theory besides just Matt and Amber. Also, I know that's not the most flattering picture, but the fact that people think Amber is unattractive very deeply offends me on a near spiritual level tbqh
Wyatt Reyes
Really? I kind of liked it, all the stuff about arguing with your shirt off and having an extreme oedipal complex made me kek pretty hard. Also, French Diggler is worth it as a concept even if it did fall flat (which I don't think it necessarily did, but to each their comrade).
That could describe a lot of eps tbh tho fam.
Charles Young
I remember him once talking about stumbling on a thread on a chan where anons were posting pics of him in "appreciation" of him and talking about how much they wanted to punish his ass with their cocks. idk if that was Holla Forums, but that might be a sign that he peruses imageboards. Or a friend just linked it to him.
Nicholas Collins
I know Felix is there more for the comic value but he's 10 times funnier when he actually knows the subject being discussed. When he's out of place his interjections are not funny, only obnoxious.
Nathaniel Jenkins
I just love hearing Virgil react to Carl.
Dominic Clark
Anyone else always finds themselves in arguments and conversations about issues and topics discussed in one of the episodes, but unable to recall specific points, events, names and arguments?
Despite being mostly a comedy podcast they do make some good points and invite some really smart people, I wish I could retain more of their stuff so I could use it.
Jesus Christ. I don't know who the fuck told Will he's good at voices and impressions and so on, but that person deserves to be shot for what he's unleashed
Andrew Kelly
yeah they are good. their "is it art?? segments are typically pretty solid
yeah, but typically in the orthodox marxist sense. he was flexing some knowledge about socialism in france post-60s, so i think this was a case of a difference in the knowledge of the subject and not just the ability to apply theory
i think the ideas/bits he does are quite okay/solid, the accent is what is grating. unless you're as good as adomian at accents, you shouldn't do an accent for the entirety of an episode out of sheer respect for the listener
Evan Richardson
Yeah. Felix and Matt are the only ones who can do any voices and they're still no James Adomian. The only Will voice I thought was alright is when he did the woke sports radio bit.
Asher Edwards
Pretty good. That part about banning kids made me think of 'schoolag'.
Mason Turner
Chapo has frankly been shit for a while now. Only good episodes they've done since basically that 4chan/alt-right analysis one was the West Wing episode and the teenage Zionisim brainwashing episode.
They really need to get good guests back on the show like Scahill and Madar and Curtis and stuff. The show is basically becoming too much "This week in weird twitter"
Evan White
The 300 episode and the one where adam got stuck in a lyft with some shitlib were good as hell.
Jaxson Phillips
It seemed for a while they consistently had informative guests. Lately it's mostly been comedy episodes ft. James Adomian and random weird twitter celebs.
It's still been pretty funny but I feel like they could have 3 or 4 separate podcasts. One for book/movie review, another where they have an informative guest and one that's just their style of comedy. I wouldn't think that's too much to ask for since they're currently getting paid about $60,000 dollars a month to talk into a microphone for an hour or two a week and shitpost on twitter all day. You have shows like Street Fight which are doing 3 episodes a week and regulary do live shows, make a zine and they're not making really any money off of it at this point.
Angel Torres
that's how the show has always been the string of good guests was an aberration
Tbh, I actually prefer comfy episodes where it's just the boyz (and Amber) and no guests
Jackson Sullivan
Amber looks different in every picture. I'm a big fan of her work but I probably have a clearer mental image of Stav's dick than Amber's face.
Jonathan Morris
the one with scahill (about yemen iirc) was probably their best one, but the recent one with alex pareene was based too. but i take your point about the poor strike rate.
Jose Russell
Somebody please upload the new Cum Town I'm bored
Ayden Rodriguez
This.
Ryder Nelson
Bjork doesn't have any Asian in her either
Jason Price
What tv show is Mullen writing for?
Samuel Sanchez
War Nerd is nearly a perfect lefty podcast
Luke Brown
Agreed. Mark and John are so based it hurts. Zero Squared is up there too.
Jeremiah Robinson
It's actually pretty fucking obvious Bjork's mom cucked her dad with some azn.
Gavin Jenkins
Yeah, I wish more anons on this board listened to Zero Squared and Alpha 2 Omega.
Matthew Phillips
just finished listening to all the Hell of a Way eps. gonna try this next
Colton Gray
It's Greenlandish genes, closest country to Iceland
Juan Stewart
I reaaallly like them, but what are their politics? For the most part they seem like some social-democratic/ left-libertarian people
Jackson Anderson
What are those two? Anything to do with radio war nerd?
Joshua Hughes
No, not related to the War Nerd or Chapo, although Amber has been on Zero Squared a couple of times. Zero Squared is a podcast for the Zero Books publishing house, they do lots of random books on theory and Leftist politics, kind of like Verso. It's hosted by a Zizekian Marxist named Doug Lain, he hates idpol, fully supports Libertarian Marxism and the vulgar Left, is a reformed anarkiddie who has finally read Marx, and he's very Based. I've always felt he'd be a great guest on Chapo and don't know why they haven't had him on yet.
Basically, if you like Chapo but wish they talked about theory and philosophy more often, it's for you.
Adrian Wood
I'm also curious about this.
Wyatt Morales
Btw, I've always felt that if more people on this board were aware of people like Doug Lain, C. Derick Varn, and Tom O'Brien they would undoubtably be /ourguys/, I honestly sometimes feel they're some of the last Leftists who have any sense. For anons who feel trapped between anarkiddies and tankies, for Anarchists who actually read Marx, and Marxists who understand that Marxism is inherently anti-authoritarian and anti-statist, they're 100% /ourguys/. Also, does anyone have the version of this pic where the tankie has a little pin of Mao instead of just a hammer and sickle? I saw it once but didn't have the foresight to save it.
Leo Ramirez
what's the best war nerd episode to start with?
Hunter Martin
I enjoy Chapo, but the irony is tiring at times. I much prefer street fight radio, those guys seem really earnest
Hudson Morris
Sounds like they had Kapitalism101 in their intro. Did they get Brandon one too?
Isaac Peterson
They both used to be basically nihilistic nationalists but after Reagan and Bush they just couldn't do it any more and became leftists again.
Dolan was a leftist student at Berkeley and at various points in his life a pro Sein Finn/IRA activist. When he became a professor he got sick of leftists and his nationalist phase begun.
Neither are big on Marxist theory and are really just non-sectarian socialists.
I guess you could start at the beginning if you don't mind some recap of what happened last year.
Ryder Price
He's been on Alpha2Omega multiple times, but I can't remember if he's ever been on Zero Squared. Andrew Kliman has been a frequent guest on both pods tho.
so leftists to nihilistic nationalists back to leftists? that's quite a round-trip
Jonathan Russell
So they were reactionaries in the 80's? I didn't know they were that old tbh.
>Neither are big on Marxist theory and are really just non-sectarian socialists.
Kind of disappointing, but to each their own I guess, definitely doesn't diminish the podcast in any way.
Isaiah Martin
w/e
Adam Butler
Besides the episodes with Brenden and Kliman I also highly recommend the episode with Nick Srnicek. He also has Paul Cockshott on a lot, which is great. Also, episodes 68 and 69 with Varn are classic imo. Aside from that he has a lot of post-Keynesian economists come on too, besides the regular stable of Marxians. Not exactly my cup of tea, but I could see why someone else would enjoy it.
Samuel Roberts
Also he got Varoufakis on once! Very good convo.
Kayden Sanchez
Listening to the Harvard episode right now. How they went with Kristol and O'Reilly over Charles Murray is beyond me. Anyway good episode that drops off after the war criminals and robber barons segments. That school needs to be razed.
Jason Thomas
The Mark Fisher DietSoup episode was pretty good. Thanks.
Doug loves memes and hates idpol. He's definitely /ourguy/.
Michael Lopez
Can someone make a list of the good podcasts recommended in this thread?
I started listening to Radio war nerd and its awesome, so thanks for that, Doug lains Diet soap is really good too
then there's "Alpha 2 Omega", "Zero squared", which might be the same as Diet soap? Simply speaking the recommendations are good but the formating isnt
what is this guy saying for example
what are these names " Doug Lain, C. Derick Varn, and Tom O'Brien "
Cameron Russell
Thanks fam appreciate it
Wyatt Johnson
basically, please respond, and can someone compile a clear list of the podcasts recommended
Jaxson Jackson
Sorry user, should have been more clear. Doug Lain used to have a podcast called Diet Soup, then, after he became head editor at Zero Books he continued his podcast but changed the name to Zero Squared and it's become the official podcast for the publishing house and he regularly features authors they publish.
Sorry you'll have to do some sifting for that last link. Aside from that Tom O'Brien hosts the podcast Alpha 2 Omega, it focuses on economics and is very Based. Mostly he has Marxists on (Andrew Kliman, Paul Cockshott, Brenden Cooney), but he also has a lot of Post-Keynseans come on too, if that's your cup of tea.
Anyway, C. Derick Varn is just a guy they're both friends with who's a frequent guest on both podcast, he's like a walking talking encyclopedia on history, philosophy, anthropology, and sociology, he's extremely Based, I recommend A2O eps #68 and #69 with him, and on Zero Squared the recent episode on When Insurrections Die that I linked earlier is fantastic. Aside from that Doug and Varn breifly has a podcast together called Pop The Left where they criticized the current state of the Left, but it only lasted 9 episodes and featured a third host named Nicolas Pell who used to be a Trot but is now a NRx TradCath who spends all of his time trying to impress Gavin McGuiness online. it's extremely embarrassing
No problem user. Also, while you're on the Zero Books youtube page I highly recommend their youtube videos, they've been doing a series using Mark Fisher's Capitalist Realism to analyze culture.
Finally here's a video on a recent book they published criticizing idpol Liberalism from a Marxist Feminist perspective: youtube.com/watch?v=9DR7xUg0TrQ&t=96s
Hudson Jackson
Is Radio war nerd only for patreons or I'm not searching it right?
Jace Reed
Yeah, Chapo, War Nerd, and Zero Squared are probably the gold standard of Leftist podcasts. I like Alpha 2 Omega but it's a little too dry sometimes. Also, Srsly Wrong is pretty decent too.
Kind of just sounds like their bandwaggoning tbh. A ton of Marxists gave up their beliefs when it became unfashionable in the 80s and 90s. People who have decided to be leftists again as it gains popularity are just grifters imo.
I kind of feel like there was very little else one could do during that long period of NeoLiberalism. They were depressing times, but I think it's common for some people to have multiple political conversions throughout their lives, especially if you're the type of person drawn to radical politics, or just not a normie who believes whatever the current status quo is.
Michael Robinson
Oh, danke!
Eli Roberts
np fam
Sebastian Jones
What bandwagon? Both Mark and John haven't been on the right since the 90's.
Brandon Johnson
Wtf…how does that even happen?
Jeremiah Brooks
Easy, after years of activism and organizing suck all the life and energy out of you, and after endlessly fighting and bickering with other Leftists for being idpol retards and having "white male" screamed in your face enough times some people just snap. Also, Trots are predisposed to become NeoCons because Permanent Revolution can easily just become infinite Imperialist military intervention when you invert it.
Jaxson Collins
It's more common than you think. Eugene Genovese who was a famous Marxist historian became a tradcath in the 90's.
Blake King
The entire ideology of NeoConsevativism came out of Trotskyists who flipped sides in the '70's.
Asher Gonzalez
Yeah I guess it's not unheard of. Cleaver did become a Mormon who shilled for Reagan.
Carson Smith
Kek, Cleaver was a loon, he went from Muslim, to Marxist, to Christian, to weird Muslim-Christian hybrid, to weird sex cult that worshipped semen, to Christian again. Proof of he was a brilliant writter tho, politics aside Soul on Ice and Soul on Fire are fantastic pieces of literature.
Carter Cox
Some were always a little crazy, Cleaver and Genovese certainly were. For some there's more money and fame to be made on the other side. For others I think they just get so frustrated with the left they turn towards a traditionalist or fascist form of anti-capitalism.
Oliver Evans
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Nathaniel Wilson
Fascists claim to offer an alternative to both capitalism and communism. Traditionalists oppose the social and political change brought about by capitalism.
Chase Nguyen
Plenty of reactionaries present themselves as anti-capitalist, but for completely different reason then the Left, in fact usually for all the reasons Marxists usually do like Capitalism, because it completely destroys the old world along with it's various spooks, it's a force of perpetual modernization, and very few things can stand in it's way, reactionaries tend not to like that, but their solution isn't the creation of a classless and stateless society when we brush those old traditions and spooks even further to the side, it's usually some kind of desire for an impossible return to pre-capitalist ways of Being, but a return that also somehow leaves Capital and the Bourgeoise completely in tact.
Nicholas Gutierrez
I'd add Hell of a Way to Die in there too also Discourse Collective
Jayden Sullivan
Yeah, Hell of a Way to Die is great. I find Discourse Collective difficult to listen to though, way too many people talking all at once.
Isaac Carter
The number one guest I'd love to see on Chapo is Nick Srnicek. I also think Inventing the Future would be great for the Chapo Book Club, like Capitalist Realism was, it's short, it's accessible, and it's got a lot of ideas that are right up Chapo's alley like rejection of Liberalism, rejection of folk politics, the need to reinvigorate the Left's political imaginary, FALC as an endgoal, and Srnicek is just a great speaker/communicator in general, really great at debate and getting his ideas across very clearly.
Jacob Taylor
I'd also like to see them get more theorists and economists on in general, could you imagine someone like Zizek or Varoufakis on Chapo? It'd be fantastic.
Blake Gomez
I am really glad that Matt said he fucking hates all of the scum of the earth op ed writers they talk about on the show. It gets on my nerves when Will and Felix talk about how they ironically like these cretins.
Michael Richardson
Matt is the Marx of our times, a giant walking the earth.
Anthony Sanchez
Here's a better link to the old Diet Soup episodes:
Olympus Has Fallen, 300, West Wing (tv show), London Has Fallen, the D'nesh Dzousa Hillary Clinton movie (with Bill Corbett)
Amber & Matt did a special episode but I forgot what they watched
Will was on What a Hell of a Way to Die recently as a premium episode, where he watched Star Trek: DS9 with them, Matt did one with them where they watch Starship Troopers 3
Jordan Wright
oh fuuuuuck
Ryder Stewart
Amber and Matt had their own show where they reviewed movies but it only lasted like five episodes.
I bet it's complete shit. Shapiro's was at least unintentionally funny, this is probably boring and unreadable.
Luis Ramirez
The reading they did on Chapo was funny. It seemed better written but not as hilariously bad as Shapiro's.
Christopher Lee
also CTH had a Batman vs. Superman episode, and a Patriot's Day one
I don't know, I found Shapiro's book excerpts they read to be boring (except the bear of a man thing) but I laughed my ass off at Schlichter's dystopian liberal America descriptions
Aiden Sanchez
Hope we get an episode tonight to discuss the French election results.
Lucas Howard
yeah but with someone who actualy knows shit and without felix's french accent
but i think i saw on one of their twitters that the next episode will be discussing healthcare, given this last week's news
Carter Clark
Is there an RSS feed for downloading episodes of Street Fight?
Jacob Bennett
what episode is schlihter's book in?
Xavier Mitchell
They talked about Leni Riefenstahl's Olympia
Jack Wood
it was in the most recent free episode
Landon Miller
It seems that after Chapo's success hundreds of lefty podcasts have just popped up out of nowhere.
Is anyone keeping track? I'm still only listening to War Nerd, Cum Town and Chapo, I don't even know where to start with the others. is Scahill's any good?
Jose Anderson
I hear Bernie even has a podcast now. Also, if you're referring to Zero Squared it's actually been around since before 2009.
Oliver Butler
Also, I've also been meaning to listen to Scahill's podcast but haven't yet, so I also want to hear an user's opinion.
Luke Russell
Scahill as in Intercepted? Or am I thinking of something else?
Intercepted seems to come out too infrequently and by the time it comes out it covers old news
Jacob Wood
Bernie on Chapo would be pretty sweet. Or at least getting Chapo on DP or something.
Michael Cooper
Intercepted suffers from the same problems their website does. Scahill and Greenwald are great but your also going to hear from people like Murtaza Hussain who's an FSA/Jihadist shill and Zaid Jalini who's a liberal dipshit who used work for Center for American Progress.
Give it a listen but you may want to skip certain interviews or at least be skeptical of some of thier guests.
Daniel Phillips
I literally gagged when I read that.
Christian Wright
aw shit I follow him on twitter and he's OK
Owen Perry
She gets her looks from her dad. pic related.
The only native American admixture in the Icelandic population come from a single female according to the extensive genetic research performed by Íslensk Erfðagreining and that female was not an Inuit.
Lincoln Rodriguez
He's not the worst but he has some terrible ideas. Like he thinks progressives should try to take over the Republican party.
Easton White
He's like a muslim Carl Diggler. "If Muslims want Republicans to stop bombing the Middle East then Jihadists need to join the Republican Party! Also, more Republicans need to become Jihadists! Both sides do it!"
Benjamin Mitchell
have you never seen an icelander
shit even a finn
Owen Reyes
…………… there are simply no words
Josiah Kelly
His argument was literally that Leftists should join the Republican party and "change it from the inside", I shit you not.
James Martinez
It might be possible. They don't have super-delegates (yet.)
Dominic Rodriguez
that's a shame, I like his tweets but that idea is just so fucking nuts
Ayden Nelson
And there's Lee Fang who to this day still cannot shut up about Milo at Berkley months later. There's being critical of political violence and then there is wanting to die on a hill for edgy college republicans who wanted to invite a pedo to give public doxxing lessons.
Ryan Diaz
I saw Lee Fang was arguing with some guy I follow on Twitter about Berkeley at 3 am Easter morning. This guy is literally losing sleep over this shit and can't have a nice holiday with his family because he's so obsessed.
Some of his reporting is alright but I listened to him be interviewed on Katie Halper and he really just has liberal tier opinions on issues like economics and gun control but for some reason plenty of leftists still love the guy. At least he isn't Shane Bauer level of insane yet.
The Intercept is such a weird fucking outlet.
Justin Campbell
He is hot, I think. Also cool on twitter. I somehow just assumed he was Greenwald/Scahill tier
Someone here told me this and that show got me hooked. Scahill has Chomsky tier skills at making arguments about nat sec stuff and also had good rapor with the dry boys
For what it's worth I really like Intercepted, mostly just because Scahill is cool and there are pretty high production values with. Not extremely informative, but comfy and occassionally funny. I really liked the Apocalypse now starring Trump cold open
Cameron Wood
u wot m8
Samuel Richardson
U jelly?
Jonathan Reed
tim faust just delivered the best line probably ever on the show felix: tim, when they go low, we go high tim: yeah, we shoot them in the fucking face
Ian Perry
too much shouting though, matt and tim seemed to be having a spergout
Ethan Watson
Too many subjects in one podcast, episode sould of been 3 hours. The work interview ended just when it got good
Cooper Hughes
The dead pundits society is also pretty based. They have good episodes with Christian Parenti and Angela Nagel critiquing the idpol/campus left.
Christopher Miller
I hate how the Host uses "masculine" or "macho" as a synonym for violent or aggressive. For example he calls pro-antifa people the "macho left". Are the women in the YPJ macho dudebros because they take up arms against ISIS? I agree with Angela Nagel that the left should debate with alt-right figures but I highly doubt embarrassing them in a debate will make them go away or actually win over anyone. They also said something like "the right has all the guns we can't beat them". How about we go buy guns then. The Black Panthers sold books to buy shotguns. Eugene Debs advocated for the unions arming themselves. Maybe we should make a case for left-wing gun ownership and attempt to win over young veterans. Maybe leftists should learn to defend themselves.
Basically I think we shouldn't restrict free speech, we must organize to win but we shouldn't rule out using aggressive direct action even if we don't like how antifa or black bloc does it.
I don't know if you listened to the Rania Khalek/Ben Norton episode but during that interview Ben Norton went full Stalinist and said people use the term "tankie" to silence POC voices and that anti-stalinists only support white revolutions. Anyway it's a good podcast I just I had to rant about shit.
Jaxon Lewis
Miya Tokumitsu starts every sentence with "uhm" and it's annoying
Joseph Diaz
who wants to listen to 3 hours? 1 hour is fine.
Carson Peterson
Is there episode 78 in the mega?
Logan Cox
WHERE NEW EPISODE AT???
Cooper Price
Here for the new episode as well. Someone please deliver.
Why do the chapo guys love him so much? Is he a commie?
Benjamin Cooper
He's a socialist. They get most of their foreign policy analysis from him and just respect him as a writer. He's one of the few people writing about that kind of stuff that isn't a partisan hack or a paid shill that works for some Saudi funded think tank.
Ethan Morris
Dolan … had a hard life. He's a great writer, poet and critic. He has a PhD in literature (studying de Sade, he was also Mark Ames' teacher at Berkeley) and wrote the literature reviews for The Exiled (check out Eileen Jones too). He liked reading about war so he started writing about it and since he reads more than any think tank stuffed shirt his analyses are pretty good.
The last one was good even though their guest has that really awful laugh. He had one of the best lines in a while.
Mason Nguyen
Scahill's is really good but it's completely identical to Unauthorized Disclosure. Though neither are expressly socialist, they're hardcore anti-imperialistic podcasts with some tankie appeal that all lefties should check out.
I'm not a huge fan of Delete Your Account but it's a cool look at immediate issues in far-left politics and organization.
Srsly Wrong is like Chapo but more left and less funny.
Zero Squared is a Marxist podcast where this old guy interviews academics. Though sometimes dull, it's the most informative podcast I know.
yeah i'm not sure having two guests/two topics is a good format. seems too busy
Joseph Richardson
I can highly recommend the zero squared episode with Zizek.
Brayden Flores
It's a great conversation, although I wish Zizek wasn't so guarded and defensive the whole time, Doug was clearly on his side. I feel like Zizek has a weird habit of doing that all the time tho, when someone is on his side he gets defensive and starts self-censoring, when he's arguing with someone he goes through the roof and starts saying crazy bullshit he doesn't even believe just to be a devil's advocate, it must be some kind of neurosis, idk.
Landon Hill
I gotta say, Bruenig's idea of a Leftist think tank in the latest episode was really interesting, and the type of thing I think the Left should be doing right now. Think about how insanely pervasive and ubiquitous NeoLiberalism and NeoConservativism are, and they both started in think tanks, I think it's an avenue of praxis the Left has never really considered. Granted, reactionary think tanks will always have more direct support from the ruling class, but I think it wouldn't be impossible for Marxists and Post-Keynesians to play upon Liberals better angels, if the Panthers could milk tons of cash out of rich old Liberals in the 60's I don't see why Leftists aren't doing that more in general today.
Carson Powell
Requesting new War Nerd. Looks like a good topic this episode.
I found the episode with the think tank guy very interesting recently I have been concerned about actual policy, I know the system can't be reformed into socialism but there is some stuff that needs to be done in the meanwhile. My biggest concern is the intel-amd-nvidia oligopoly, need need stronger anti monopoly laws that can handle oligopolies too
Isaac Jenkins
Latest episode of Cum Town was one of their best yet.
William Taylor
The premium ep with Amber? Because if so I couldn't agree more, it was just non-stop riffing.
Isaiah Gutierrez
Also, the recurring bit about Adam shoving random shit up his ass was glorious, might be my favorite episode period.
Jack Johnson
What's wrong with her face?
Parker Scott
It's hot af tbqh fam.
Dylan Sanders
Couldn't tell you. She looks like a different person in every one of the few pictures I've seen of her.
Nick reading Chaturbate comments and Stav riding the sybian were great bits too. Also the first ep I think I've heard Nick want to keep going and not feel like killing himself.
The dirtbag left reminds me more of Rush Limbaugh dittoheads more and more everyday.
They makeup their own words and definitions to obsucate their weak ass arguments.
Instead of using well established leftist vocabulary.
They are cliquish af.
They have this proto cult of personality forming around people like chapo. And attack anyone that admires someone outside the clique.
I got concerned trolled by them like a motherfucker for admiring Assange. That I ignoring the validity of his suspect af rape ccharges.
Juan Moore
being anti-Assange doesn't seem like a really dirtbag Left position
Camden Parker
I lost it at Jew Convict
Wyatt Cruz
Discourse Collective is still getting its footing but at least a couple of the hosts lurk here because they mock Stirner and quote chan memes occasionally. The vaporwave episode is pretty good.
Tyler Martin
Discourse Collective can be irritating for me. Their audio is all over the place because none of them are in the same room and they're all Skyping in. At least for Chapo, Matt is the only one not in the room, so it doesn't get so grating. Plus, they have too many people on their show. I can't remember how many people they have as part of the show and it doesn't help that they add new voices all the time with their guests.
Ian Cox
True, it would be a lot better if they actually organized a schedule with designated hosts for different topics and a rotating list of co-hosts/guests.
Adam Anderson
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Landon Flores
Isn't using word like "economic interests" ideological. It's a bullshit fluff word used as a smoke screen like "collateral damage" It'd be better to use phrases like steal their shit And people we murdered so we could steal their shit
Asher Morris
Thank god
Jacob Ross
so what happened
Kayden Nguyen
I've been thinking that too.
Daniel Sanchez
Thank god indeed.
I like the two guests but the chemistry is just not the same. Nick's bits not accompanied by Stav's unconditional laughter are often awkward af.
Hunter Bell
Was I the only person who enjoyed Cum Town West? Obviously not as good as the original Cumboys, but it was still decent.
Grayson Butler
What twitter posting or uploading new episodes?
I know they were probably supposed to put up a premium ep today, but maybe they had a scheduling problem with a guest. I think they are working on new projects too, so there could be that.
It isn't bad, but like said, the chemistry just isn't the same. There isn't the same energy. When Nick, Stav and Adam getting it feels like the show is going at a fast pace with nonstop riffs.
William Reyes
I'm mostly new to chapo and pretty much have only listened to episodes that came out this year/late last year.
Are the chapo boys aware of Holla Forums? Have they brought it up on the podcast before?
Dominic Ramirez
Will was asked on his curious cat sometime last year if he knew about Holla Forums, his reply was something like "Is that a reddit thing? Because I don't care about reddit." Don't know if they've said anything else on the topic.
Alexander Hernandez
Someone needs to ask felix. He'd know if any of them do
Daniel Hughes
Even if they did they'd deny it. We're nuclear
Nicholas Cook
Cum town is so much better when the fucking laughing guy isn't on
Tyler Martin
Sam Kriss lurks here now and again, and Felix has made reference to lurking chans in the past. Will, Amber, and Matt are probably too mature to waste their time lurking on an online imageboard.
Cooper Powell
Check how far back the archives go and compare that to how new Chapo is.
Wat. Or do you mean well established in the context of the left talking to itself?
Brody Watson
Smart thing to do imho, imageboards will always drag people down and it's better if we don't get exposure (look at Holla Forums and all that kekistani bullshit).
Thomas Roberts
Yeah, but Holla Forums is cancerous as fuck and always has been. I feel like Holla Forums is less cancerous but still edgy enough to be appealing if done right.
Andrew Sullivan
Chapo and Weird Twitter over all make up a bunch of words and frameworks that intentionally obfuscates their point to make them seem more profound.
Chapo seems to be found of abbreviating this for no reason, off the top of my head I can think of
NatSec Dork = which means National Security dork, a term I NEVER heard outside weird twitter and not until recently.
volcel, incel = voluntary celibate and involuntary celibate. This to me is a little more insidious. They're trying to formalize the ostrerzation of robots or alienated young men.
Seriously they won't stop talking about incel volcels as thought its an actually political construct and not something they pulled out of their ass to make their weak ass leftism seem more complicated and thoughtout than it is.
Asher Harris
You have pure autism.
Evan Anderson
Chapo and weird twitter is for pussy fake leftists like you that are really just pissed off Bernie bros.
You want to blame everything on Hilary, Dems, and Incels. Instead of things like the several hunderd years of Jim Crow, dimanteling of democracy by porky, and the 40 million people that actually voted for Trump, people like you white parents.
Seriously, the average weird twitter chapo fan is SOOOOO obviously a pussy shelter suburbanite white hipster that didn't give a fuck about exploitation of proles all the way till Trumps election and it started looking like this shit could effect them.
fuck them all.
David Howard
I didn't know red kahina was on leftypol
Zachary Perry
kys cuck
Christopher Green
Does anyone have the new episode ?
Jayden Ortiz
This is what I mean when I said weird twitter and Chapo fans are forming this proto-cult following around their shit.
Hey shit head, you and your weird Twitter clique aren't the arbitrator of what's politically incorrect and cool and what's not just because you set up this dense stupid af "IRONIC" culture around your weak ass praxis.
I'm not a humorless dipshit because I called out weird twitter and Chapo shit.
I know you think you are all heros of the proles because you endlessly feliate each other and sandbagged a few worthless dems shills, but you're not.
If anyone is taking to themselves it weird twitter and chapo.
Brody Robinson
So we're do ya go from here ? Do you want people to stop making jokes? It's really easy to criticize when you're not doing anything
Maybe actually reading up on some theory and stop using "Irony" as a way to keep yourself from being tied down to any explicit politics or praxis thereby escaping any real criticism of your fragile ass ego
No one can say your full of shit if you were just being "IRONIC!!!:DDDDD"
GOD FUCKING DAMN, you guys make fun of the alt-right for having a victim complex but weird twitter's is almost as bad. Calling your sense of humor shit isn't a call to end all jokes everywhere.
Could you feel any sorrier for yourself?
Motherfucker I'm doing plenty, I'm agitating like a motherfucker, trying to organize a tenants associate and trying to find funding for a coop
And I don't see any weird twitter assholes helping me. Just the same tired old poor proles I always fucking see.
Henry Foster
Thanks brotendo
Andrew Roberts
Let me guess, you're a Trotskyist?
Alexander Wood
Holy shit you're a fucking autist. No, things like "volcel" and "incel" aren't sincere derogatory terms that weird twitter made up to alienate celibate young men you fucking insecure dweeb. The fact that you think a relatively niche joke line that has some light relatability and referencability within the framework of general online humor (not specifically weird leftist spaces) shows that you're the kind of autist literally too autistic for some of the least niche memes on the internet (which is strange since reddit-spacing faggots should be the first to recognize fairly popular memes).
Nicholas Ramirez
There's black muslims In my state in towns like Toledo who voted for Trump because he was the only one promising to bring their jobs back. It's not just white baby boomers.
If your politics is just based on cultural resentment you're not really much different than the MAGA chuds.
Camden Rivera
I don't even know what that is.
I honestly aren't anything. I kinda agree with Anarchist critique of heiarchy.
I kinda agree with leftcoms in that there is something we're doing wrong or modeled wrong otherwise why hasn't capitalism's contradictions caused it to collapse.
And I kind of agree with Tankies in that you kind of do need some strong man to break the back of capitalism seemly.
I'm just annoyed that a bunch of prileged white petiet porkies have taken on superficial leftist praxis. It's pretty obvious that once any of these weird twitter twats gets a decent enough job or gets their student loans forgiven they're going to go right back to being liberals, or worse republicans.
I said in a pervious post they act so much like sycophantic Limbaugh Dittoheads.
Weird Twitter/Reddit/ and Chapo just reek of narcissism, I can't believe you can't see it.
Bentley Morales
The archive of what?
Blake Ortiz
Why are you so mad at people for making jokes online? How is this a major concern? How is it related to the Left? If anything it makes Leftism more accessible. I still don't understand why ironic twitter jokes make tankies so angry, I understood when it was people getting angry at ironic racism, but now it seems like there are tons of people who think having a sense of humor is inherently reactionary. It seems like you just personally don't have a sense of humor and now you're projecting your politics onto your personality flaw.
Dominic Morales
Great, you've been a Leftist for 4 months and you're main concern is that Leftists with senses of humor are ruining the movement. One of these is not like the other. Holy shit you need to relax, I know you're new to this because of your reddit spacing and how mad you are, but calm down lad, some of us have been at this shit for awhile, and you'll need a sense of humor to get through it, all this kind of behavior does is make the Left into an unbearably toxic space that proles and normal folk want nothing to do with, so cool your jets, lurk more, maybe read a little, and get your head out of your ass. Here you're right. Read this fam. libcom.org/library/what-was-ussr-aufheben
Evan Young
>>It seems that after Chapo's success hundreds of lefty podcasts have just popped up out of nowhere. >Check how far back the archives go and compare that to how new Chapo is.
The archive of what? The archive where they store that magical Nazi-killing device from Indiana Jones.
Camden Jones
Leftism isn't a secret club, and if we're too focused on theory and ideological purity we have no hope of ever getting big. The irony of Chapo and the "dirtbag left" is a reaction to the suffocating seriousness that has plagued the left. Irony is a great way to challenge the left while still making it clear to the audience that they don't actually believe some of the more absurd things that they're saying. Stop taking it so seriously and just let people like things. jfc
Jason Lopez
Why is this thread full of literal autists all of sudden
Brandon Perry
Sam came here once to be snarky in all lowercase @ us
Hunter Hughes
What'd he say?
Camden Roberts
CHAPO IS DONE
NO MORE PESOS
THEY WERE DONE WHEN DAHNALD WON BUT NOW REALLY DONE
THEY HAD CHANCE; THEY FUCK IT; NOW ORDER FOOD OF CAT AND BUJI BUBBLE WATER ON PRIMEAMAZON 420LMAO CYKA
KOMPROMAT
NAZBOLGANG WILL EXPOSE CHAPOFAGS AND THEIR TIES TO WESTERN INTELLIGENCE
SOMETIMES WE FORGET AND IF WE FORGET WE MIGHT ACCIDENTALLY FORGIVE BUT YOU HAD BETTER EXPECT US PIDERAS
YOU WILL BE REMOVED LIKE UKRO FACISTS IN DONBASS MEATGRINDER
Jaxson Jackson
STAV IS NAZBOLGANG APPROVED; SEMITE: YOU WATCH YOUR FUCKING TONGUE ABOUT THAT BEAUTIFUL MAN
Hudson Adams
last one was solid but dont tell anyone I said that
Tbh I kinda liked the Cum Town West episodes more than the average Cum Town episodes.
James Bennett
is there anything like this that's about europ / UK politics?
Lincoln Watson
nah, the riffs are lacking, though CTW has gotten progressively better with each attempt
Levi Thomas
I kind of disagree. Normal Cum Town had higher peaks, but is less consistently funny. CTW feels more funny throughout to me.
Idk though, it might just be the novelty/freshness of them that make me feel that way. That and the fact that there's no obnoxious cackling laughter even when the joke wasn't funny.
Tyler Brown
Don't worry guys. Felix probably likes us.
R-right?
Jose Harris
-Stavros Halkias
Nolan Parker
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Xavier Long
Is that a rare Biederman?
Anthony Garcia
Why's he holding a paper clip?
Jacob Thomas
It's literally illegal to criticize Ukrainian Nazis like Bandera.
I always wonder about this. Will seems very willing to dip his toes into Marxism, but something seems to be stopping him from just taking the plunge. I think it's because it requires so much reading. I know Felix has gone on record as saying that if he's anything he's probably an ancom, but that's he's never read any ancom lit, so it's just based on his general impression of what it's all about. Idk if Felix would ever honestly sit down and read the Breadbook, or if Will would ever sit down and just unironically read Marx, but I know it'd make me deeply happy inside. Idk, maybe I'm making assumptions, maybe Will has read Marx and Lenin, but Matt and Amber seem like the only one's willing to just openly own their Marxism.
Nah fam, Matt and Amber are infantile as fuck. I don't think they've taken the dauve-pill, but they definitely lean Leftcom.
Jackson Turner
Which is really weird because they all seem fairly well read. Just throw some theory in between reading tweets and National Review articles. I don't think so. I've never heard anything remotely Marxist come out of Will's mouth.
Dylan Morales
I agree, but he has to have read something at some point, like in college or something. There's no way a Leftist can get to that age and never have read even some basic Marx, like The Manifesto, or The German Ideology, or Wage Labor and Capital. I'm not saying he took notes or payed the closest attention, but he has to have at least skimmed some of this shit. If I had twitter I'd probably ask him on curious cat tbh.
Oliver Jenkins
"No"
Blake Bennett
I don't think he uses the term masculine to describe antifa. He uses the terms muscular/macho. I consider myself fairly masculine but I don't really find the term macho offensive. Also Adam is pretty clearly against the sort of idiots leftists who blame everything on toxic masculinity.
Idk if the point is that we can beat the alt-right through debate, its more just that literally anything is better then using half-hearted violence against them which just gives them media attention and allows them to play the victim.
Jackson Butler
More like actively shill their podcast. I'm not hating though.
W E W E W
Josiah Cruz
Read Bordiga.
Michael Taylor
lol, I don't think that would stop him, he used to work in book publishing
p.s. Matt is actually the smartest one
William Long
Or don't. Your time on the earth is limited and you shouldn't waste it reading retards.
Jose Wright
There is absolutely nothing incompatible with reading Lenin and being a Leftcom. Leftcoms are critical of the USSR, and some are critical of Lenin, but you'd be hard-pressed to find a Marxist that doesn't like Lenin, the closest you'll find are orthodox Council Communists, but there are basically none of those left. Bordiga was literally an orthodox Leninist and the main gripe Leftcoms have with the USSR is that they veered off from Marx and Lenin's ideas.
Cooper Foster
Reading fiction for work, and reading theory are two completely different things. In fact, having a good eye for fiction and essay writting, as Will clearly has from the reading series, is a completely different skill from what it takes to navigate theory. I'm not saying he's dumb, but he has bluntly stated that he's ignorant of Marxist theory, and that the main thing that stops him is that there's too much jargon and technical language, which is a road bump anyone needs to get past if they intend to read philosophy or economics.
Good show that got great for a while and eventually spiraled to shit
Elijah Martinez
TALKIN ABOUT THE NEWS. DOING IT EVERY WAY
Gabriel Gomez
I think the ultimate irony for me as a Canadian is that Sorkin borrowed the name of the show from a black comedy series on the CBC, where the whole point and source of humor for the show is that all the characters are craven incompetents.
Luis Morgan
What are Matt's top 5 prestige TV shows? Also, they should have Nick Land go on the Trap.
Jonathan Rogers
Was Cross in on the bit in that episode? It was hard to tell because Cross is really good at that kind of thing.
Maybe not a popular opinion on an internet imageboard, but everything Matt says here about video games is 100% true.
David Mitchell
Why does it always come down to identity politics?
Jeremiah Myers
Because at the end of the day the "Dirtbag Left" are really just disillusioned liberal nu-male hipsters, so Mad Men/The Sopranos/The Wire is ugh angsty white male anti-heroes being shitty human beings and getting a pass for it
Benjamin Jackson
He mentions it in passing and it's hardly the central argument of the piece. If even the recognition that race exists and that it's a factor in political reality triggers you then I recommend you just resign yourself to living under a rock.
Those shows are about angry/angsty white male anti-heroes, and they are pretty trite and boring, and a big part of why they're so popular is because the protagonists are just male power fantasies for petite-bourge betas such as yourself. Also, back you go >>>Holla Forums
Jeremiah Allen
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Ryan James
The aut-right really is just the twin sister of Tumblr isn't it? Also, you still need to go back >>>Holla Forums
Alexander Green
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Ayden Davis
Because america was a mistake.
Joshua Rogers
>>>/liberalpol/
Jeremiah Barnes
No and stop trying to push this retarded narrative here you dipshit
Cameron Fisher
I'll give it a go.
Anybody listens to this podcast btw? I was actually really excited about it, because Hegelbon is a really funny dude and properly trained in literary analysis and all that, so I thought he'd make some really interesting critical readings of videogames, which is something I've always wanted to see, but 90% of the time it feels like he's just describing the games he played.
Samuel Adams
No, do keep yelling identity politics at everything, you'll fit in here.
Colton Richardson
And everything he says about art is 100% false
Thomas Brooks
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Josiah Hughes
Fuck you sopranos was and still is great
Nathaniel Carter
What are you taking about
It's not a narrative it's fact The Simpsons has been bunk for more than a decade
Landon King
Matt is so fogey with his criticisms of videogames and hip hop lol
If you're accusing The Wire of being "the same tired gimmick of middle aged white men being edgy" you probably should fuck off to tumblr, or at least get your head checked
Luke Foster
He's not wrong though.
Nicholas Phillips
Technically the "protagonist" McNulty is very much the archetype of the angst ridden white man, however the show obviously isnt about him at its core
It's obviously not equivalent to Mad Men or The sopranos, CHristman mentioned it once and uses artistic exaggeration to make a point. It's not something you need to get so wound up over lol
Sopranos and Mad men is extremely much about angsty white men, Matt was making a point in contrasting the white man stuff of TV to the more representative high brow cinema. Its just a quick point.
Hmm, what about Twin Peaks? I guess that lacked the commercial success. What does gabagoolian mean?
Matthew Christman brings up this as an example of bad writing: Never watched MM, but heard of it, of course. Isn't that character a bigwig in marketing? Couldn't it be intentional on the part of the writers that the character talks like somebody who has a knack for appearing to be full of wisdom to a superficial observer? Next thing you tell me is that the show creators are big fans of 1960s sexism, since they depict it.
Both together? How? And who is supposed to identify with Toni Soprano? Fat balding mafia scumbag who murders people and goes to the shrink. Yes, that's-a me. Or is it a power-fantasy version of me, perhaps?
Dominic Bailey
Anybody listening to Unauthorized Disclosure?
Daniel King
Well, there's a duality to it. The story is set up to be about Don Draper's - a succesfull attractive existential intelligent but sociopathic anti-hero - fall from grace. With initial episodes showing him having affair after affair and outsmarting everybody at the office, while maintaining a sweet loving family at home. It turns out things aren't going so well and his life becomes a wreck and there's a couple of scenes where the people he sees as the dumb losers get to tell him what's what. But then next week he's back on his bullshit, and after a while the show just forgets that the show was supposed to be about his fall from grace (I mean just look at the show intro and watch the first episode) and turns into Don Draper worship + damn the 60s looked so cool dude. (I'm exaggerating this point, I think Mad Men has a lot of qualities, but Don Draper really really wasn't one. Just like McNulty the character was easily the worst part of The Wire.) So I think it's safe to say that you're right that was the intention, but that really does not matter in the slightest when the show pretty much completely abandons that thread after one or two seasons.
I didn't say he was bad, he was just the worst, I honestly like him a lot more than I expected to do at the beginning of the show.
Adam Watson
Isn't the fact that he's perpetually back on his bullshit and is never satisfied kind of the point? His job is to perpetually generate desire and dissatisfaction with what you currently have, so even once he makes a comeback, he ruins it all again. It's why ending on the coke ad is a gut punch, that what he feels in that moment will immediately be turned into an essentialized, commodified and ultimately unattainable thing for him. So the next downfall is around the corner.
Colton Perry
This post is 100% false.
James Sullivan
I like The Sopranos, Deadwood, and The Wire, but it's also undeniable that those shows created a formula of "prestige" tv that's been stretched pretty thin and has been completely overblown. The idea that the best tv can match or even surpass the best cinema or literature is preposterous, Twin Peaks came the closest, and maybe parts of The Prisoner, aside from that I can't think of much else.
Michael Martin
I fucking hated McNulty, practically started skipping all his scenes half way through.
Noah Sullivan
🍀🍀🍀McNulty🍀🍀🍀
Jonathan White
It's the power fantasy of being an alpha as fuck sociopath who's always in control of every situation, fucks all the time, and always gets what he wants, the only "real man" in a world full of overly sensitive postmodern beta "numales". Tony Soprano is a huge power fantasy for tons of incredibly pathetic men who watch that show. Now I love the Sopranos, but I know and have seen plenty of men just watch that show as a straight crime thriller and who unironically just think that the mobster characters are "cool" and "badasses".
Easton Adams
Tony was shown to be a big insecure fuck who's family mostly hated him though
William Nguyen
Tony was an insecure new money yuppie. He was representative of Americans who became extremely rich in the 90's and suddenly had incredible power while retaining the characteristics of the small poor people they were.
Zachary Taylor
I liked McNulty
Carson Stewart
You guys think the Dirtbag Left may have its own version of the "smug liberal" problem going on?
I tend to follow most of the well-known and active ones, and I find some of these people really, really easy to resent.
Jaxson Garcia
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Owen Baker
No
Michael Allen
Anybody got the zero squared premium eps? Paying 10$ isn't really practical for me when I don't really want the other benefits.
Gavin Hall
Not so far but it could easily devolve in to that. Though Maher is a special kind of idiot and I don't think they'll ever reach his stupidity even if they do slip.
Carson Evans
Maher is a liberal, not a leftist.
Owen Miller
Fuck, if someone has these that'd be awesome.
Matthew Rodriguez
Literally just disullisoned liberals right down to the "okay, yeah, [other liberal idpol] is shite but MY [idpul] is *akchooally* on point because…"
Christopher Peterson
Christ, the Newsroom episode was so terrible and cringey I stopped halfway through, and I usually lisen all the way through even to pretty meh podcasts when I'm working. I mean, The Newsroom is not a great TV show but holy shit the minute they started talking, you could predict the spin and tone of just about everything they were going to say. It was like they looked up every single right-wing or le rational centrist criticism of left/liberal media analysis and decided it was a manual to be followed trope by trope to demonstrate and validate each and every one.
But it's really just another step downward in the steady decline the show has been on since the burgerstan election. I dunno if it's just the Trump presidency meaning they are slowly regressing back into being slightly edgy, disillusioned New York liberals or that the money and profile they have now means they've made the decision to be very safe to maintain whatever comfortbale lifestyle they have (though I wouldn't necessarily bregrudge them that).
pic related because the New Yorker Magazine Prophecy apparently has come to pass.
Wyatt Sanders
I scrounged together every single episode of Inside Zero Books I could find online here: mega.nz/#F!dC4RTRCS!1b9zqUPcxF5GHKf0BEisTw I haven't personally listened to any of the episodes yet so I'm not vouching for the quality of the files. And episodes 25, 29, 34, and 35 are missing, so if any of y'all find one of them link them here and I'll add it to the folder. I'll try to keep this updated with new episodes, but I'm making no guarantees because I'm not gonna be paying for this shit.
Jaxon Turner
Thank you so much user, you're a life saver!
Levi Ortiz
Doing god's work user.
Leo Price
I thought it was funny not their best episode but it wasn't any worse than the west wing episode
Blake Gonzalez
Fuck, these are good
Dylan Smith
Listening to episode #14, Doug is completely right about Identity Politics, it's sad to see how difficult it is to articulate these obvious insights. I don't think Leftists should reject Feminism or anti-racism, but clearly when it comes to things like Standpoint Theory, callout culture, biological determinism/essentialism, and the idea that racism/sexism can't be unlearned, these ideas are inherently anti-Left, they're just the flipside of Rightwing identitarianism, they have no place in our movements.
Parker Ortiz
Once idpol is accepted as one's standard worldview the chances of solidarity and internationalism fly right out the window. Let's not forget that most post-colonialism and decolonial theory is completely anti-Marxist and anti-Communist.
Austin Turner
Thanks user!
Grayson Ross
What the fuck are you talking about? The Newsroom ep was amazing, one of the funniest episodes they've ever done tbh.
Tyler Gutierrez
DO THE FUCKING NEWS
Jonathan Reyes
That being said, Doug really debates amazingly.
Bentley Lopez
NEEEEEEEEWWWWWSSSSS
Easton Collins
WITH YOUR FRIENDS THE JEWS
Josiah Fisher
lol how fucking hung up can you be on one thing? The id-pol things is not even the argument.
The point is that "prestige TV" is subject to capitalist concerns and is therefore appealing to the very safe angsty white men crowd, while indie movies have a capacity to capture experiences outside of what we normally see in culture, movies have an ability to be more avant garde.
Besides, of course it's bad if all culture is centered around white males. What's so hard to get about that? Try to respond without using pol memes.
Brayden Phillips
You're a fucking hero.
William Green
turns out the david cross episode wasn't one of those ones that bear repeated listening
Easton Price
Anyone here know about "Michael and Us"? If not thought I'd shill for them.
Rly good leftist podcast by two Jacobin writers who talk about/shit on political films
James Collins
No dumbass, the point is that the same "woke liberals" that watch those shows to be deep and shit are just watching the same boring, milquetoast bullshit that they accuse others of doing, complete with it being just as "constructed for white men" as all the shit they criticize.
Learn to understand nuance or go back to watching Sargon. Also "disullisoned" isn't a word
Jayden Baker
The point was about manufactured culture being much less subversive than it and its viewers think it is. The blandness and uniformity of manufactured culture under capitalism is absolutely a socialist critique. You're just mad because the words "white" and "men" appeared on the page
Christopher Reed
Yeah he seemed kind of off at times, but I guess it is kind of a different environment for him.
I rolled my eyes pretty hard at the "but muh qualifications" shit he pulled though.
Jaxson Price
It was pretty good and the "downturn" you're thinking of is in your imagination because you're the sort of person who only cares about politics during election time.
Hunter Flores
I feel like there's one, maybe two guys whose entire post history in this thread constitute a 3 month-long effort to convince everyone that Chapo is not good anymore.
Isaac Rodriguez
Reality is that the show fluctuates between good and bad like said
On a serious note every show is gonna have low points and high points but they've actually had more hits than misses since the election so I'm not sure what the complainer is talking about.
Ryder Martinez
Kantbot wrote that lmao
Lincoln Fisher
Who's Kantbot?
Ian Gonzalez
Cum Town is getting really boring and predictable with all the Adam teasing. I don't even really enjoy the in-between conversation anymore because the expectation of the incoming attacks ruins it for me
Carter Clark
Yeah last two were pretty off (though there are still some funny bits). They need some new inspiration or something
Ethan Gomez
Jaded reactionary ironist guy from frog twitter.
Easton Ortiz
You sound like an obsessed faggot.
Evan Rodriguez
That's because Holla Forums is a slow board and a small community so whenever I see the same point being reiterated again and again I just assume it's one guy trying to make his agenda seem like a board consensus
Oliver Reed
Not really though. Easily in the top 50. Probably in the top 5 non-4chan english-speaking boards.
Juan Brown
It was an objectively bad episode, and I think it's symptomatic of a number of weaknesses of Chapo that are becoming fast apparent. Let's take as a point of comparison the West Wing episode, which I think was clearly much better.
The central theme of the WW episode was how it was in essence a message from the neoliberal future - our present - and as such it was almost entirely devoted to the political vision, the ideology. They referenced several examples of how the show peddled a kind of procedural fetishism, institutional veneration, and most of all a radical centrism, to use a hip new phrase. The idea that if only you come out forceful enough for the neoliberal technocratic consensus view, with well crafted arguments in debates etc., you will both win the day and achieve the best possible kind of government. They showed how this vision relied on a great number of simply laughable sleights of hand (have the opponents be rubes, easily persuadable, honorable, etc.), and allowed for extremely dumb political choices (the supreme court episode).
As a kind of spice, they added on the now fairly worn observations concerning Sorkin's various tics: walk and talk, repetition, cringey dialogue, bombast, "cool", repetition, shouting, and generalized neuroticism.
Compare that to the NR episode: almost no thought was given to the political coloring of the show, it was glossed over by saying that "it concerned old news and did not have any effects on the goings on in the world even in the show itself." True enough, but that doesn't mean the show did not take political and ideological stances. In stead, they chose to wholly devote themselves to their favorite hobby of the "duck hunt", only here the duck wasn't a hack writer, but Sorkin. Thing is, they already did that in the WW episode. So they just ended up warming over all the old leftovers: "haha, what an unrealistic character", "wow, what terrible dialogue", "SHOUTING", "walk and talk really ties the scene together", … And of course the one thing they kept coming back to: the portrayal of women in the show.
And that's where a general weakness of the podcast shows: slipping into idpol. They just couldn't stop telling us how much of a sexist Sorkin is for the way he writes women. I dunno, maybe he is a huge sexist, but I honestly didn't get that from the show. He writes women terribly, sure; they are mostly dysfunctional neurotic and essentially masochistic/subs in relation to the (older) men, but… It's not like he writes good male characters either! All of them are essentially obnoxious and often pitiable weirdos of one type or another. Maybe the main character was a kind of wish fulfillment, but if it was, it was of a singularly sand kind. Not really something that merrited going on an idpol rant in any case. But, you know, gotta get them "ally" brownie points, so you have to attack him on at least one angle of the cis white het male complex.
Not a word about how it was a show entirely centered around (the concerns of) elite and (mostly) very rich people - I think they all lived in New York, too. 'Cause, you know, you can only say so many things in a nearly two hour episode.
Sebastian Scott
I seriously dont think they're 'slipping into idpol' I think they're completely justified in pointing out the sexist nature of the portrayal of women in the show because it's an ostensibly liberal one. If it was some hack right wing show I would agree that the observation is boring and I have a feeling so would they. But when a show like the News Room does it in the patronizing way that it does I think it's valuable to point out how just writing in that your female characters are ultra competent workers or whatever isn't actually doing anything and misses the point.
Evan Ross
There was maybe 20 minutes max devoted to his treatment of women
Oliver Roberts
It is when it's the only even remotely political point you touch on. If the most salient criticism beyond form/style you can levy at the newsroom is that it is woman hater, you are practicing idpol.
That would mean it was like 15-20% of the entire episode. I don't think it was even that much, more like 10 minutes, but it was infinitely more than was devoted to issues of class and neoliberal ideology.
Cameron Thompson
Your mistake is thinking that cth is a politics podcast before it's a comedy podcast. It's really the other way. It's not a politics podcast that's funny, it's a comedy podcast about politics, it just happens that their politics overlap with yours a large amount of the time. In the sorkin/newsroom story, the fact that all his female characters are the personification of shitty tropes is the funny story. Going to CTH for your political analysis of media is fundamentally idiotic. They don't have a single piece of coherent political critique or insight in any of their episodes. They're a left-wing middle finger to liberal culture and politics. There's nothing wrong with that, but you're an idiot for expecting anything else.
Daniel Powell
Point well taken. But I don't think I'm wrong in noting that they are less good when they do less jokes on the cultural and political, as they did with this episode. Take out the jabbing at liberalism and very little remains of their comedy.
Lincoln Howard
Sure, you can hold the reasonable standpoint that their humor suffers from it. I personally disagree with you, I think the fact that all those liberal media-culture dorks like Sorkin and all the people who liked West Wing and Newsroom who endlessly talk about glass ceilings, resistance and 'her', are completely unable to even breathe the fucking air around them without eating their own shit, is fucking hilarious. From the liberal angle, cth are the brocialist anti-feminists who hate women in power. Listening to them tear down a liberal idealogue for falling into every single creative trap wrt writing female characters from a male perspective is hilarious to me, because it makes The Newsroom into an illustration of the inane hypocrisies of the liberal world and their inability to coherently form either a strong critique of the world they present (no self-awareness in any of the Sorkin shows), or present an even remotely attractive vision.
Leo Ortiz
oops accidentally deleted a sentence segment >or present an even remotely attractive vision, even when working within the premises of liberal identity politics.
Carson Rodriguez
Right, which gives context to the comparatively little time spent on his horrible female characters as opposed to the terribleness of Jeff Newsroom
i forget that Holla Forums considers even mentioning the existence of women or minorites to be the dreaded idpol
It was a throwaway FUN episode about a shitty tv show. fucking relax.
there's definitely an obsession with Chapo from frog twitter. it's seems to be an infantile, angry reaction that they don't hold a monopoly on le edge, as illustrates.
also, the cross episode was pretty chill as others have said. has the week's premium ep dropped yet?
Colton Adams
I meant 20 minutes max over the course of the two eps. Either way, it's not worth throwing a fit about imo
Brayden Price
ok I just read this. sad blog post dressed up in mental slop, Kantbot is a shit writer, and no, conservatives aren't the new punk rock
Joshua Morgan
stopped reading right here
Connor Moore
Stav is annoying as fuck on the new episode of cum town. He just calls Adam gay the whole time and barely even in a funny way.
Cooper Green
stav is the least funny cum town member but the show would be bad without him
Michael Morgan
I'm usually fine with him but he annoyed me this episode for whatever reason.
Benjamin Gonzalez
They've hit a rut in general I think they need a guest to mix things up
Anthony Bennett
Now if they played it like that, I would have loved it.
Or maybe not, I don't know. I just can't find joy on pointing out liberal hypocrisy anymore - it feels like falling into the John Stewart trap. Even if you can point out they are hypocritical, that doesn't stop them from doing it. I can't laugh at liberals anymore, I want to see them crushed and humiliated, only that will bring a smile to my face. The election of Trump kinda did that… but I'm not laughing now.
Ryder Johnson
You still read 4 out of 6 paragraphs though :^)
Landon Scott
psst, actually I read it all, but disproved of the contents so claimed that I had stopped reading right there ;)
Carter Smith
mr. fun ruiner
Carson James
I listened to the Discourse Collective and it seems way more lefty than Chapo. Why so little shilling about them here?
Isaac Long
Discourse collective is newer isn't it?
Jaxon Smith
Ayyy new ep out, help a brother out based uploadanon
Jace Sanchez
EEEMAGIN MHYAI SHOCK
Jordan Bailey
...
Hunter Ross
because theyre all faggot idpolers on twitter fuck death pigeon fuck malloy fuck disco collective cum nation baby
Robert Barnes
This is honestly one of the most annoying things about this board. The most recent Patreon ep was amazing, they completely refute Afro-Pessimism and black nationalism, but because they're both mentioning race, as well as the fact that in some instances class struggle does have a racial component, anons in this thread will call it a bad ep. At the end of the day Marxists and Anarchist need to be able to address race and gender in an non-idpol manner if they want to actually re-enter the public discourse, right now Liberal idpol is essentially the only game in town, so all discursive space is taken up by SJWs and their discontents.
Hunter Carter
flag checks out
Jose Howard
Yeah but as practically every moderated site discussing socialism/Marxism/anarchism on the internet shows there's a pretty big overlap between SJWs and socialists/anarchists/Marxists
I mean practically every left-wing (actual, not liberal-wing) university group is dominated by SJW trannies and blue-hairs
Charles Ortiz
t. Holla Forumsyp
Brayden Nguyen
I'm not saying all, but chances are if you join your local area's Marxist organisation of choice you're probably going to hear more about "trans-exculusionary spaces" or whatever the latest SJW bugbear is than rational Marxist class analysis
William Myers
anyone got the 113 episode?
Jason Adams
Here for latest episode. Please upload friends TwT
Cameron Murphy
Kek have you ever left your computer chair?
I've never heard about transexclusionary spaces in years of organizing.
Charles Sullivan
This Tbh. No one outside of college campuses talks about this. Go to any socialist or union meeting, this isn't what the main issues are. The main issues are actual organizing.
It's not something general in leftist organizations, but it is prevalent in internet youth culture - that is, the niche we are all wallowing in. Very few established popular "millennial" leftist internet personalities that aren't also utterly idpol-ridden.
Chapo is basically the closest, and even they are arguably more emotionally committed to social issues than to economic justice.
Samuel Ward
I want to be him
Logan Wood
What - this chick was on the podcast?
I knew about her before from Twitter but since when did she become a spokersperson for DSA? Isn't she in Sweden? what
Connor Morris
cumtown > chapo and every other shitty podcast in this thread
Jason Clark
Only when you miss someone do you truly know how much you need them. We should have been nicer to upload user while he still was here ;_;
Parker Hernandez
Cumtown isn't a leftist podcast it's a podcast about being gay with your dad
Jonathan Adams
Wait when did he leave?
Christopher Stewart
dunno if he has left Im just panicing
Carter Thomas
they unlocked the episode, go to soundloud
Ethan Roberts
maybe they heard that upload user was away?
Juan Martinez
...
Zachary Myers
now this was a goooooooooood episode
Jacob Robinson
inb4 tards start screeching about how it's idpol
Luis Gomez
Anyone have latest Chapo Ep? Patreon that is.
Wyatt Ramirez
Oh wait nevermind.
Jackson Gutierrez
It's up on soundcloud
Hudson Evans
Nah, 't was pretty great. Good discussion on idpol in stead of idpol, and funny also. Devil's advocate: did they seriously wait until they could get a black guest before taking a shit on TNC?
Evan Ward
I'm only 20 mins into the new episode. R.L. tho is so funny.
Logan Ross
They've mocked people using the word "bodies" a few times before.
Asher Rogers
one of the best eps so far. absolutely great discussion on how being anti-racism isn't being pro-idpol
Tyler Harris
but theyve had black guests on before
James Martin
I've just listened to the second episode - after listening to his episodes on zero squared - and I'm just astonished by how much C. Derick Varn knows. Like. How the fuck has he read so fucking much? How the fuck can he have such a good understanding of so many things? How can he have such a coherent world view? I'm pretty sure C. Derick Varn is one of the smartest persons alive.
David Kelly
Probably. Did they shit on Deray?
Xavier Cook
As far as music goes, he's pointed out numerous times he's just out of touch and doesn't really care about it all that much.
Isaiah Barnes
Same - also nice quads.
What's a Deray?
'd Be hard not too, that verbal tic has spread like a cancer among the woke crowd.
More importantly, on what it means to engage in practical antiracist struggle in stead of meaningless virtue signalling spectacle. And unsurprisingly, when it for example concerns workplaces, it supposes worked solidarity first.
Carter Ross
Only the MLK of our times. Behold the face of BLM
Jonathan Lewis
It's one thing for these things to exist. It is another to literally buy in to the ideology.
Cameron Thomas
I feel similarly, but I parsed it a little differently. TV is very limited as far as public penetration goes because you have a set amount of channels to work with(it still blows my mind that Wolff made it on any channel). Whereas with movies it all boils down to how much money you can get to make the damn thing, and after that it doesn't matter.
Asher Perez
That's nothing. You should read Black Lives Matter's official manifesto on their website. They talk bout "destroying Eurocentric patriarchal family structure" and replacing it with "matriarchal villages" and shit along with a buncha shit bout "queer-gender affirmation" and "trans rights". The movement's totally been derailed by the idpol of """intersectionality""".
Jason Ross
This is hotep tier bullshit.
Jordan Walker
and Adam's mom fucking dogs
Dylan Bell
This is very true. It was listening to Varn's conversations with Doug that actually convinced me to stop being a tankie and actually read Marx and learn about LTV.
Evan Bell
I'm friends with him on Facebook and he's such a ultra-leftist/leftcom curmudgeon that most times he just comes off as severe asshole. But yes, he's smart.
Isaac Foster
I agree in the sense that I think they need to shift focus away from skewering liberal culture, liberals on Twitter, etc. It's all so very trite now, especially in the accelerating age of Trump and neo-reaction around the globe. The dialectical blade has far more important issues to dissect.
Matthew Green
You black too?
Josiah Mitchell
Haha, that doesn't surprise me, he seems a bit self-aware about this in one of the "alt-right" episodes in the premium episodes.
James Bailey
Not to blow up his spot, but his wife is dealing with a life threatening illness. He posts about it from time to time. I think that's where most of his shitty attitude comes from.
Easton Miller
Nah, just watched a few videos poking fun at the "Kangs" movement. And heard a few black folk make jokes about it as well on various podcasts and programs.
Adam Anderson
I keep meaning to listen to their stuff. They come up occasionally here. I think the reason there's not much shilling is because a few of them actualy use this board and don't want to be sen as shilling.
Yeah the latest episode was really fucking good. Coates very much deserved a duck hunt, and it's only right to have to a black leftist on to critique him from a left perspective. R.L. was just a good guest in general, too, funny as hell as said.
Samuel Richardson
Hoteps, MRAs, and TERFs all essentially have identical world views, just from different angles. Extreme belief in a gender binary and biological determinism combined with an unflappable conviction that different kind of people can't coexist and that antagonism and conflict are inherent to human difference. Also everyone knows about Hoteps, it's a common slur against black nationalists who read shit like the Isis Papers and believe conspiracy theories about ultra advanced ancient African kingdoms that had space travel.
Jeremiah Sullivan
I don't have Fagbook so I don't know what that's like, but i kind of enjoy the killjoy persona he's cultivated, and I think we're in a moment where the Left really does need critics, specifically critics from the Left, and the more ruthless the better. From the 1930's till today we've seen at least 3-4 entire generations completely bungle and squander their revolutionary prospects, clearly something needs to change and not enough Leftists are putting themselves to the task of figuring out what that change needs to be. Either way I think people like Varn and Doug are doing the Left a service, as small as it may be, by being as polemical and combative as they are. Also, Doug should go on Cumtown.
Isaiah Rogers
I wouldn't lump TERFs in with MRAs and Hoteps. I don't condone their abuse and ill-will against trans people, but modern TERFs do have a point in that biological women's issues can be/have been silenced in the pursuit of liberal virtue signalling for "inclusion". I'm saying this because, and maybe this has died down in the past couple of years, but I remember when mentioning "ovaries" or other inherently biological female things was considered to be trans-exclusionary. Like, fuck we have distinct health issues dealing with this shit and if being able to talk about, for example, ovarian cancer risks openly makes trans women feel excluded then something is fucked up
Andrew Sanders
sounds like you'd be interested in the post-left
Justin Bennett
I'm interested in Dauvé and Endnotes, as well as Communization in general. I recently got my hands on a copy of Tiqqun's Introduction to Civil War, but haven't had a chance to read it yet. As far as the post-left goes, I have no interest in Zerzan or anything anprim or anti-civ, but Dupont's Nihilist Communism does look interesting, I don't think I'd agree with any of it, but it does look interesting. Aside from that, Bob Black looks like he's worth reading, but I'm completely repelled by Individualist Anarchism and Egoism as a whole, and the Egoists on this board certainly don't help that. Also, as far as I can tell Insurrectionary Anarchism is basically just modern day Blanqism.
Jacob Bell
It's a complex topic for sure. Personally I'm partial to Engels' conception of the division between genders as a sort of "first class", or even the first division of labor. My issue with Radical Feminism though doesn't have so much to do with the fact that women clearly exist as an oppressed group with a unique set of experiences that are particular to their subject positionality, I think that's undeniable more or less, and i don't think Marxists should get in the habit of trying to say gender isn't an issue or that patriarchy doesn't exist. my real issue is the shoddy application of Dialectics to gender, or rather a belief among Radfems that there exists an inherent dialectical contradiction and antagonism to gender that's already encoded within sexual difference itself, one identical to the antagonism of class. It's a strange dialectical maneuver that imbues biological sex already with the incredibly modern gender and gender roles that clearly are not universal or uniform to humanity as a species, at least not if we look at the broadest and widest amount of anthropological data available to us.At the end of the day gender isn't class and the same rules just don't apply, but this is an issue that effected the theory and praxis of Marxists just as much during the Second and Third Internationals, there came to be a common opinion that there existed a Proletarian culture, a Proletarian essence, and the belief of the USSR and many MLs and Maoists came to be that Communism should be a Proletarianization of society, and a razing of all Bourgeoise culture, this is where you get the insanity of the Cultural Revolution, as well as the birth of Identity Politics, and in fact Radical Feminism itself. I think generally speaking the Left made a wrong turn around this time, and it's lead to a lot of bad ideas and bad practices. The goal of Communism isn't a worker's state or even a worker's society, it's the abolition of class, a society without workers, but Marxists became so obsessed with the idea of workers, and workers became so invested in their own self-identity as workers, that this negation and sublation could never come about. Likewise, Radical Feminism is a politics where women become overly invested in their self-identity as women, a social construction that is at the end of the day a byproduct of Patriarchal social relations. Now I wouldn't go so far as to say that the goal of Feminism should be the abolition of gender, I don't think that, but clearly the issue with Radfems, going back to their transphobia, is their intense essentialism and biological determinism in all things gender related, a rigid and unbending idea of what womanhood is that becomes in and of itself limiting and oppressive, not acknowledging the multitude of experiences and modes of Being that sex and gender can entail.
Aaron Diaz
I forgot to attach this pic, lel
Parker Brown
Nick Land should go on Cumtown.
Nicholas Young
Matt's article about Prestige TV and his rant against videogame on that podcast might be two of the most pointless fucking things I've ever seen. I kept expecting them to arrive somewhere and they never did.
For a dude who make such great rant off the cuff he's really weak when asked to comment at length on pop culture. In fact, the cultural criticism coming out of this milieu he's part of has been consistently really shitty.
Actually the RL episode was well received and why wouldn't it be? It's a black man saying that the way to end racism is organization and class struggle.
Andrew King
This is probably a good time to remind people that "communisation" actually refers to two completely different things: the marxist variant, which is the immediate revolutionary transition to communism (non-stagist), and the anarchist version which is a bunch of bullshit voluntarist power of friendship tier garbage.
It's a good fucking ep, maybe one of their funniest so far.
Xavier Robinson
They call cum town reactionary on the new discourse collective. Is this the great left schism of our time?
Thomas Robinson
does anyone have pictures of amber i could fap to quickly? just asking for a mate.
Isaiah Fisher
I mean it's an apolitical comedy podcast. They say offensive stuff pretty regularly, and I can see someone getting upset about how often Nick needlessly plays devil's advocate for the alt-right, but "reactionary" is really pushing it. They're clearly sympathetic to the Left in their personal lives and for the most part are just politically naive because they see the world through the lens of being comedians, which is okay, because that's what they do, and they're good at it.
John Foster
Like true train enthusiasts they can't into irony or sarcasm
Asher Gray
I would also be interested in this. For a friend of course.
Alexander Cook
Nothing outside her instagram. Do yourself a favor and fap to Adam's sister instead.
Justin Barnes
What's their specific argument? Also, what're their politics like? I know they're Marxists, but what kind? Are they MLs? Leftcoms? Critical theory? Non-denominational? I've been meaning to get into them recently.
Adrian Carter
What's the episode where they all did cocaine?
Anthony Miller
Amber and Felix share an apartment with Nick, When will they radicalise him?
Nathaniel Cook
Isn't nick a part of DSA?
Ryder Flores
Don't think he is, but he's definitely a soft socialist. Every time he gets ranty he goes towards leftist critiques, though obviously it's super rare since it's a strictly comedy podcast
Carson Jenkins
discourse collective are a bunch of autistic idpol libtards who fly commie flags
Carson Cook
...
Levi Sanders
Seriously though, why does she look like that? Isn't she supposed to be of Appalachian hick descent?
Austin Baker
Growing up in a coal mine is rough
David Young
foetal alcohol syndrome
Samuel Diaz
Except they're anti-idpol and openly advocate for armed struggle. How are they Liberal? They literally have a series of theory eps going over Marx's entire bibliography.
Michael Carter
So why hasn't the Srsly Wrong podcast updated in over 2 months? Are they on hiatus or something?
Bentley Mitchell
This is extremely accurate. Also, 90% of Post-Left Anarchism is basically just lifestylism.
I just started listening to Discourse Collective. It's a good fucking podcast, more anons on the board should listen to it.
Jace Price
They just did two new episode recently, after coming out of hiatus. They're on iTunes.
Eli Nelson
Thanks user. I listen to their eps on Youtube so I had no clue.
Benjamin Roberts
cause only libtards hate cumtown cumtown is the best podcast in this thread on folks
Gabriel Nguyen
this is actually good
Liam Martinez
Didn't really work out for ghetto blacks though
Julian Hall
Outside of black comedy, blacks don't live in a matriarchy.
Lincoln Torres
I think it's a Caribbean thing.
Kevin Morales
I would unironically support matriarchal communes in a revolutionary situation.
Black communities in the US are definitely not Matriarchal, and if they were it definitely wouldn't be as easy as it is for Black men to walk out on their kids and refuse to pay child support.
Hudson Taylor
I think being raised a;most entirely by women because your dad skipped town or is in prison on drug charges comes pretty close though
Angel Stewart
It's definitely just a racist MRA thing to claim the reason Black communities are fucked is because their households are controlled by women.
Levi Diaz
Case in point.
Juan Cook
What's not matriarchal about being raised almost exclusively by female figures within your extended family?
Wyatt Baker
Is the definition of Patriarchy a society where everyone is raised exclusively by men? In a Patriarchal society all domestic toil and labor is forced on women obligatorily. I don't see how this is out of common.
Noah Taylor
Matriarchy isn't "when you're raised by a single mom". Do you think kids adopted by two lesbians that grow up in an average community are living in a matriarchy?
John Rogers
Are you the kind of person that thinks that if you work in a coop you no longer live under capitalism?
Zachary Nguyen
why do they have that woman (amber(?)) on? all she ever does is say "I'm so high" and other DUDE WEED shit
Zachary Hall
She's one of the two people involved with the podcast that knows more than just a tiny bit of actual leftist theory, I'd say she's pretty important to the show.
Gabriel Parker
I think you're watching cum town and mistaking it for chapo
Dominic Martinez
So, how do you boys feel about this so far?
Joseph Gonzalez
A bit of a shaky start IMO but the last couple episodes have been on point
Andrew Hall
the other is… ?
Thomas Brooks
Matt
Dylan Green
Fantastic, it's like CTH if they actually knew and talked about theory.
So I've been listening to some clips of these guys on youtube, and uh… They seem to have some weird fixations. Like "loser" right wingers and men who are bitter about family courts. Both of which are groups that are not just unwelcome on the left but get actively chased away for these characteristics. And dumping on them for this is Chapo's idea of critique…? All that does is participate in the culture that pushes these people into becoming reactionaries.
Christian Morgan
I think uploadanon might have died
Jaxson Thompson
Deathpigeon is either completely batshit or a fucking fed, and Malloy is a dumbshit who will fall for anything or a fed playing that role.
Andrew Jones
Fuck off with your concern trolling, you fucking idiot.
Jonathan Morgan
Is posting criticism of what he's heard banned? Touchy. 2close2home?
Joshua Brown
It's supposed to be a fucking comedy podcast, you sperg. How is listening to their shit not "engaging" with the material?
Colton Rivera
I could write up an actual response to why what he's saying is fucking stupid, but why bother when he's asking us to defend positions he assumes us to have from watching a couple of youtube clips that third parties made? If he'd bothered to sit through a couple of episodes and still had those views, I might help him understand, but if he can't even do that then he's a fucking lost cause. No reason to take him seriously.
If it's a "fucking comedy podcast" then why the fuck are you critiquing them from a primarily political perspective? You obviously don't hold that view, so why are you presenting yourself as if you do? Because you don't know what the fuck you're talking about? Listen to a couple of episodes, maybe just so you can get the entire context of the youtube clips you've seen.
Josiah Jones
RIP IN peace uploadanon
will someone else step up?
Hunter Allen
Yes, much of the comedy comes from these people's ridiculous behavior/opinions, but the hosts are ultimately sympathetic to the people they're making fun of. The absurd behavior/opinions of these people are manifestations of deeply seated issues they have. There's a constant tension between making fun of these silly pundits and understanding that their issues have a social origin. The hosts have acknowledged this. With that being said a lot of these pundits are legitimate assholes and deserve to be made fun of. It's also way more funny to mock than it is to psychoanalyze. Comedy. Wew.
Wew, do you have opinions on books you've only read a few pages of too?
Ian Kelly
I was watching highlights made by fans.
Because the larger context of what they're saying is overtly political, and in the bits I'm talking about they step away from comedy for a moment to do what seems like externalize some kind of personal shit.
Gabriel Carter
So what you're saying is this isn't a podcast about making jokes but some kind of treatise that you have to see from start to finish to get the point of.
David Morgan
Im saying you are behaving like someone whose favourite form of reading is train timetables
Brandon Collins
So because I watched some highlights of a podcast to find out more, and I found out more, that means I have a short attention span and can't read.
Zachary Smith
No you fucking idiot, that's not what I'm saying. I'm saying that having opinions on media that you've only consumed a tiny, disjoint part of is retarded.
Aaron Miller
It's not difficult to notice trends in people's behavior. The entire point of looking for highlights is to sample the best material to judge whether or not the whole thing is worth the time. I brought my impression to the thread because it was something that stuck out and I was curious what the fans had to say.
Now it seems the Chapo fans (at least the ones responding to me) are literally autistic and unable to respond to not just mild critique but even curiosity about the show. If I do end up watching Chapo I'll be sure not to mention it to people.
Brandon Morris
I have to say the way you maintained emotional control while these ferals attacked you is impressive if nothing else.
You're projecting fam. We were critiquing your criticism. Now you're calling us autistic because you were unable to defend your points.
Isaiah Walker
okay
Angel Gomez
Is this a debate club? I noticed a trend and was curious about the fans' opinions. This reply is essentially what I was looking for, but multiple people apparently saw a need to criticize pointed questions about the hosts while specifically avoiding an answer, like here
William Brooks
Ok but seriously you either have a sense of humor and engage in bants or you're a serious podcast that gets lumped in with the rest of the "PC, humorless leftist" stereotype. There's no real middle ground on the issue here and I'd rather them throw down than be overly sensitive. Also, they're not afraid of heavy self-deprecation either and the fact that they shit fling at the entire establishment and not just the conservatives Daily Show style evens it out. Of course, without knowing the specific clips you're discussing it's hard to give a more specific response but my guess is that the nature of highlight clips is that it will highlight the "sickest burns" or sharpest criticisms (why make highlights of mild reactions?)
I hope that was a more useful answer than what the other guy gave.
Colton Moore
Mind backing up any of those claims bucko? Because making baseless claims that everyone you don't like is a fed is kind of the exact thing a fed would do in the first place :^)
Landon Hall
What you say makes sense and most of their content I've heard is very funny. The thing that gives me pause is the whole "Haha, what a loser. Your life sucks, and pointing that out is owning you." This clip is exemplary of my point, particularly this time code: youtube.com/watch?v=5XI1TdauYAo&t=1m55s They're dumping on people for being "losers" which of course they (should) know is a result of societal conditions. The "personal failing" thing is complete neoliberal memery.
Tyler Morgan
What's wrong with mocking reactionaries? They're pieces of shit. It's not like being nice to a Nazi makes them stop being a Nazi, if you're the kind of person who'd honestly become a fascist just because your life is shitty you're probably trash in the first place.
Angel Foster
Yeah and I agree it can be harsh but you really can't pussyfoot around the issue and claim to be speaking your mind honestly. And, as I stated already to some degree, elsewhere in this same podcast they allude heavily to people on the far left facing many of the same problems and failures as these people do (so it doesn't become an issue of personal failing/responsibility to the degree you're describing)
Jaxson Barnes
They're dumping on them for their reaction to failure, not for the failure itself.
Ayden Phillips
Exactly. Anyone who's reaction to misery is to form a conviction to make everyone else's life more miserable then theirs, or to want to essentially punish and hurt other people, is obviously a cunt, and doesn't deserve all this hypothetical respect and kindness that they would never personally extend to Leftists themselves. If the way these assholes act online and in public is any evidence most of them would literally kill millions of people is they had the power to or weren't so insanely impotent, they don't deserve sympathy. What Leftists should honestly do is just ignore them and focus on finding like minded people to organize with.
Luke Hernandez
I agree, just because you are poor and miserable is no reason to hate on major stockholders with billions in hereditary wealth and wish them ill. Good luck to them, I say!
Thomas Russell
No, but the left being hostile toward the demographics that do creates pressure that pushes people in that direction. It's a systemic phenomenon, not an individual one. Life being shitty and not seeing a better solution is what causes people to be fascists. There's nothing inherent in people that's "good" or "bad" that will make them politically virtuous.
…yeah what I was saying in the first post is that if being honest is being an asshole propagating bad ideas the problem is with the person not how they present themselves. That sounds better, but it's hard to get more explicit than the part I highlighted. Which episode, by the way?
If that's what they meant (not how I interpret it at all), that's worse because it implies that people are inherently good or bad instead of being products of their circumstances. It's not a thing about the people who already are Nazis, but the people who are "losers" and will be getting actively targeted by Nazis with all kinds of pseudoscience trying to convince them they have answers to their problems. When you say "losers become Nazis" which is something often repeated, you close off the chance to bring downtrodden people into the fold. Meanwhile the alt-right is eager to swoop in and recruit them.
And idk what else to say other than I completely disagree that leftists should shy away from blunt and honest critiques and even insults of avowed enemies considering the current stereotype of meek and overly-polite leftists.
Parker Cooper
who actually has this stereotype of leftists? A few oldies who remember the hippies or soft-spoken trade union reps?
the current stereotype of leftists is hysterical college kids begging authority to protect their feelings, brightly coloured screeching manhaters and scrawny wannabe street thugs
Thomas Ramirez
Those ladies are the epitome of "can't take a joke" leftists and while not "polite" are certainly considered meek, safe space losers afraid of real confrontation.
Logan Cruz
This is the first time I've heard this take
Ethan Young
you still haven't heard this take, since that wasn't said or implied
I'm just saying, the "meek, overly polite leftist" is not a stereotype of leftists I've seen anywhere. "Weak"? Sure, but that always goes with brash, shrill and rude.
Luis Smith
lol
Jack Evans
That's a different guy and I don't think either of us is saying that.
I don't think those people are considered meek or afraid, just oblivious.
Thanks for the link. My position is that instead of buying into the divisive culture of extremely online late capitalism, we should be calling for unity and cooperation, i.e. an alternative. There's a reason why Orwell described 2 minutes hate in 1984. People get burned out on that shit fast. Hate and fear are good for selling things but the left's goal isn't to sell things. Bombastic mockery is useful but there's already tons of that out there, and not just with politics. The left needs to be more constructive/organized and I think there's a growing hunger for building things instead of tearing them down.
Blake Moore
The "snowflake safe spaces" rhetoric says otherwise
Landon Baker
Then ignore the polite part and pretend I said PC instead since that's what I was implying but failed to get across
Mason James
WE GOT TO PROTECT THE SINGLE DADS
James Robinson
Having listened to the entire episode I gotta say it was even worse. "They're icky and gross and I don't want to know more about them" is neither a recipe for success nor funny. I alarmed by how readily they were brushing off the alt-right as something that would just fizzle out. What an awful take.
Nathaniel Jackson
I don't disagree with you actually. There are many people in the irony Left who need to accept high school is over for them tbh
Elijah Richardson
What a dishonest summary of an episode devoted to discussing them. Nagle's article is absolutely correct
Aiden Walker
It's actually completely inaccurate as you'd expect from an outsider trying to piece together chan history
Brandon Powell
Of course there's nothing inherently "good" or "bad" about people, but if you're a Nazi you're definitely bad, that isn't inherent, but i don't think Leftists should waste their time trying to be nice to these people, and Chapo are making fun of people who are complete scumbags, and if you miss that you either don't really listen to the show or you're personal sympathies are in strange places. To be frankly honest, if you aren't a falseflagging Holla Forumsyp your idea of praxis and what it takes to popularize Leftist ideas and win people over is retarded, are reactionaries spending all of their time trying to be as nice and polite as possible online? No, they're a bunch of screeching autists, and what draws people to the Right, and angry tweens to Holla Forums, is usually anger, but I don't think Leftists should waste their time trying to court this insanely miniscule percent of the population. You seem to be under the misconception that most people are on the Right, they're not, most people just don't think about politics at all and don't really have much of an opinion, and if you've already taken the leap to become a full blown reactionary there's really not a lot anyone else can do to change that, to stop being one is really just something that person has to do on their own. I mean do reactionaries think what it takes to change the minds of Leftist is to constantly call them "snowflakes", "libtards", and constantly spam the same two or three unflattering pictures of college lesbians?>>1745182
Nicholas Cox
">>1745096 It depends on why they're a nazi.
Ryder Ross
I should point out by the way, you seem to be implying that Chapo make fun of "losers" in general, people who are deadbeats or have a shitty lot in life, but if you actually listened to the show mostly they make fun of specific rightwing pundits and milieus, they make fun of reactionaries for often being neurotic sexually frustrated cunts who want to live in a totalitarian ethno-state because they think it'll punish people who have more sex then them. These people deserve the most ruthless mockery, and making fun of a rightwing cunt for being a piece of shit isn't the same as mocking people in general for having it rough. The argument you made in this thread here is basically equivalent to the SJW argument that people should never make jokes if it can offend a certain downtrodden demographic, and you kind of seem to overly identify with weird abusive Dads who drive away all of their loved ones and then blame Feminism and become internet Nazis tbh.
I think cutting ass on Nazis makes more sense, no one should take these faggots seriously.
Jack Moore
neat, thanks m8y
That's really a really disingenuous depiction of that conversation. HOWEVER, the anime right deserves to be made fun, they deserve to be clowned on for believing they're the "new punk rock", they deserve to be reminded their edgy signalling is nothing more than a phase that most of them will be embarrassed about for the rest of their lives. Internet nazis thrive off your outrage, there's no better way to ruin their fun (and outreach) when you just take that away from them and laugh at them. They're a perfect example of paper tigers, online or IRL. Imaging and message is important–think of how one viral video of Spencer getting punched caused them to lose their shit and start LARPing IRL with Kek flags and Gladiator get-up. That shit fucking broke their psyches. It's good to remind them they're not a Big Bad and especially that they're being fucked and will be fucked by the very system they're championing.
Also, if reactionaries are a couple of jokes away from going full Nazi, then what are we losing anyway?
Liam Lewis
My point is that in mocking the scumbags, they frequently dip into "You're a loser!" as the means of mocking them, which implies being a loser is worth mocking. As for the sexual frustration angle it's a clear hypocrisy when they simultaneously mock someone for caring too much about sex and for being a loser who doesn't have enough sex. It's more "why are we shitting on people who would be good targets for recruitment?" and it's not just Chapo doing this. Where are you getting that from? I pointed out I noticed multiple instances of mocking men who come out the losers in family courts. Are you equating that with "weird abusive Dads who drive away all of their loved ones"? Because a court is the force that's separating people in that scenario. The US court system (especially a segment with so much moneyed interest tied up in it) is a very bizarre thing for a leftist to be tacitly supporting.
Punching Spencer was funny but it was hardly devastating blow. More like an excuse to ramp up what they were already doing. That's an oversimplification. The alt-right/alt-lite people have in effect an ideological pump, so that once someone gets a nudge toward the right, there will be others waiting to nudge them farther. It's not a matter of individuals, but the system as a whole. What matters are the disaffected and alienated proles who are twisting in the wind and looking for any port in a storm. The left is doing basically nothing to divert those people away from the righties trying to snag them, being happy to write them off as losers.
Dominic Martin
Why is family court the one issue that is off limits for comedy?
Logan Morgan
I didn't say family court is off limits. It's strange to me that a leftist would mock people who have complaints about the court system when it comes to family courts. Most leftists recognize that the US court system is fucked in general. It would be at least as weird if they were making fun of someone who was bitter about being convicted of possessing drugs, but I didn't hear them do that.
Jayden Evans
Nobody who listen to Chapo has ever been married. We don't care about family court because it's not an issue that affects us.
Logan Long
It affects people who have never been married, such as kids who get caught up in a messy divorce. Moreover, this is terrible reasoning and that should be obvious if you apply it to the counterexample I just gave.
Liam Hall
Maybe you missed how I said "or."
But to answer your question, this greentext is about deathpigeon and this guy seems to agree.
Ryan Cook
Got the new one?
Hudson Diaz
it's on the link?
Connor Jones
Theres another one out today since the Texas one
Anthony Harris
yes, that's on the link too
Christopher Cook
Do you even listen to this podcast?
Jose Fisher
Trump is a retard. Yes.
Jaxon James
t. Matt Christman. He's absolutely right
Luis Hernandez
wasn't he actually not that capitalist as everyone thinks? there are infopics with his almost-socialist quotes floating around, but I haven't read wealth of nations cause christ I've better things to do (not really)
Hunter Thompson
yeah a lot of what adam smith wrote was highly critical of capitalism and inequity. he certainly wasn't the amoral ghoul he's made out to be.
Dominic Diaz
how do i download from this site?
John Gutierrez
click on the three dots next to "+Lists" and a submenu will open
Robert Lewis
Matt has such good riffs
I get it, there's so much (good) theory and fun reading that I'd like to get to, but seemingly can never find the time, but WoN should be read by everyone who wants to be able to engage cappies.
Kayden Nguyen
Where is the web series boys
Robert Cox
Matt is a grown adult but he still writes and thinks like a high school freshman.
Mason Cox
I just assumed they dropped the idea tbh. I'm not a Patron so idk if they get updates on that front. If they are still going through with it I guess it makes sense there would be delays since Mullen was in LA. If they do make it I think it'd help with Nick's depression, it seems to stem from how uncreative/unproductive he feels, and doing a weird webseries would be the perfect remedy. He already has a pretty devoted audience, so anything he decides to do, no matter how experimental or niche, is going to get support from us tbh.
Connor Sanders
explain
Luke Kelly
Nick wrote in the description of one of the more recent episodes that he has it all written. I think we just have to hope that Nick doesn't kill himself before they start filming.
I do want to know what show he was working in LA, though.
Ayden Harris
It's just the go to insult of someone's ideas/writing when you have nothing specific to say
William Harris
He mentioned it on his latest appearance on Real Ass Podcast with Gomez, but I can't remember atm, it kind of sounded like a shitty show that he just did as a gig for money. Aside from that, I'm not a fan of Gomez, but with Nick on it was funny.
Lel, imagine if Felix actually came on Holla Forums and started a Q&A thread, that'd be good.
David Gonzalez
how do we get a srsly wrong x chapo crossover? It would literally make my life
Carson Johnson
That's all the anyone on the Left is doing right now, the Posadists are right "First as tragedy, second as farce, third time as LARP." and I kind of enjoy it sometimes
Andrew Bailey
why is he so dreamy bros
Colton Anderson
Mine too user, mine too.
I'm straight as hell but I'd smash for sure.
Blake Murphy
living the life tbh
fucking thank you
i don't know but he is
Sebastian Johnson
Still no-one?
Chase Campbell
they're still kinda young, don't think they have that many subs (and they're certainly not making chapo money)
Juan Sanders
will Garland ever go on Cum Town
Jose Gonzalez
that guy is an honest to god nutjob
James Edwards
uh what's he raving about now
Cooper Anderson
Anybody remembers which episode they talk about some fast food restaurant and Felix describes all his laziness and procrastination?
I remembered that today but completely forgot which episode it is, and it's like a two-minutes bit so it's hard to find.
Ian Thompson
This guy really is a living dril post
Zachary Ross
I thought he was a journalist that I had never heard of but apparently he is a comedian that tells very sanitary jokes for corporate retreats. Mark Ames played a clip of him on an episode of Radio War Nerd doing a really lame bit.
Easton Thompson
no, he's (or at least was) an actual journalist
Grayson Butler
Never stop posting. It pays off eventually.
Landon Moore
Not really lmao
Jaxon Smith
I saw a comment on Sam Kriss' anonymous question page (I forget the website) where someone likened the stagnation of the ironybro crowd to new atheism. Until recently it has been cutting and fresh but is becoming more and more insular.
Isaiah Sanchez
Anybody know where I can download some of the premium episodes? The previous megaupload folder has been removed today.
Robert Cook
Been looking as well
Benjamin Lewis
Chapo and weird Twitter are a bunch of virtue signaling narcissists. They realized you can get $$$ if you parrot some leftist words.
Chapo is especially insufferable. Their fans are exactly like Rush Limbaugh fans, there's a proto cult of personality around them, everything is about personality politics with them. And they have this dense mono culture that circle jerk themselves with whenever anyone calls them out on this.
Like for instance they make up all these new words for things that already have labels like "Nat Sec Dork" which means National security dork, which I think is just a neo con and they will not stop ragging on volcels as though they are a serious political entity and no just a product of alienation.
Fuck weird Twitter and Chapo. I think the corner is turning on these opportunistic parasites.
BLM is blocking the Gay Pride parade because it's legitimizing LBGT friendly cops and corps, while said groups continue to brutalize natives, women blacks and the poor.
Gonna enjoy watching Chapo and the rest of weird Twitter try not to alienate their white petite bourgeois audience while they either support BLMs actions or lose their legitimacy by speaking out against it
Felix has strong links to Silicon Valley porkys so most likely their popularity is inorganic.
Oliver Price
Nice copypasta my dude
Henry Hernandez
im 14 and this is deep
Asher James
its called having fun. Chapo is 90% entertainment and 10% activism
David Murphy
fuck off retard
Oliver Scott
This is like the third or fourth time this guy literally copy pasted the same "criticisms" in this thread, don't feed him
Ethan Adams
but its fun to laugh at tards
Levi Harris
Hit a nerve?
To be fair, I do find it off putting how they are obsessed with social standing. They always talk about liberals and conservatives based on how uncool they were at school, as if trying to convince themselves they were the cool guys.
Gabriel Hughes
They call themselves failsons all the time. They're making fun of the other guys for posturing.
Luis Anderson
Is this true though?
Zachary Bell
Just Ed Zitron for all I know. One of their most prominent episodes, and one of my favorites, is the one dedicated to solely shitting on silicon valley, ie theranos, uber and the innovation party, and Zitrons a guest criticizing along with them.
Ian Gray
bumping request
Joseph Ortiz
Chapo's gone quiet, was looking forward to hearing them talk about the UK GE
Dylan Brooks
I listened to their Adam Curtis interview, it was okay. I started listening to another episode and turned it off five minutes in, I don't remember exactly why.
Foilhat twitter says they're an intelligence operation.
Jose Watson
New premium out for the true Cum Heads
Nolan Fisher
link pls?
Luke Foster
Felix used to work PR. I forgot what the name of it is, but pre-Chapo and pre/mid-Diggler, he had a blog where he'd write about how stupid working PR for big companies is and had some analysis pieces on OPEC documents.
John Foster
are you the same person that made the exact same criticism up thread? lol
this is how you know you care about e-celebs too much
I'd like to be as excited as the Chapos are about Corbyn's success. While I am glad he was able to achieve what he did, and may even win the next general election, I can't help, but be depressed thinking about just how far away we are from getting anywhere close to something like that in the US.
Ryder Torres
that was a lot of fun to listen to. definitely one of the better episodes.
there must be some proper lefties in the dem party, surely?
Ryder Lopez
The Dems are closer to being like the LibDems than the Labour party. The second most left person in the Senate after Bernie (who isn't nearly as good as Corbyn as is on many issues) is currently suffering from full on Russia-derangement syndrome and ignoring any actual policy. Meanwhile the frontrunners for 2020 are a pharma industry stooge, Hillary Clinton 2.0 (assuming hillary herself doesn't take another swing at it), and fucking Zuckerberg.
Blake Lopez
What are some of the best eps of the War Nerd? If you had to show someone the pod for the first time which episodes would you say are a safe bet?
Samuel Anderson
Can you even GET War Nerd outside of subbing to the Patreon? I couldn't find it on the iTunes tracker and hit a dead end elsewhere too.
Easton Cruz
It's also worth noting that the two left most Senators after Sanders, Elizabeth Warren and Sherrod Brown, both backed Clinton in primary. lol we're incredibly fucked.
i think it's because they are, with the exceptions of probably matt and amber, they are socdems
This was a really great episode. It's fun to escape the pessimism and cynicism every now and then and celebrate a win. Also, Amber's reading series at the end was very good.
Easton Wood
it does get super cringy when they talk about how unpopular people are and they sound like a chess club hiding from the bullies at lunch time.
Jack Diaz
they know they're uncool losers, they're making fun of people who posture as tough guys or The New Punk Rock
Nicholas Morgan
I want to kiss Amber's voice (not her face though)
Xavier Powell
This sounds like heavy projection on your part.
Christopher Gonzalez
Anybody going to upload the new episode with Angela Nagle?
Sebastian Myers
Please
Adam Rodriguez
Pretty please
Joseph Reyes
Pretty pretty please
Bentley Morales
cuck cuck im gay
Julian Harris
Same
Samuel Bennett
Fucking upload it
Grayson Johnson
Seriously I know you fucks have a patrion so why hasn't it been uploaded yet
Gavin Edwards
lol you people should chill out, i'm sure either user will upload sooner or later or someone else will
Colton Cruz
I just don't want the thread to get bumped off
Camden Rivera
the newest ep is on black wolf feed (and a link for that is in this thread)
Evan White
Is there a place to download the regular episodes?
David Martin
just go to their soundcloud page, first result on google
Jayden Sanchez
New episode was lit
Lucas Fisher
I meant to download.
Cooper Gonzalez
The guest is the lady who wrote the book on Pepe CHUDs, right? I remember when they had her own a while back talking about the book as upcoming. Was interested to read it to see analysis from somebody not entrenched and totally desensitized to imageboatd culture.
Camden Gray
She is impressively knowledgeable about chan culture and the events of the last five or so years. I am really curious what she would have to say about Holla Forums. We should reach out to her and invite her here.
Nolan Collins
Can't you download it if you have a soundcloud account?
I wish Will could have shut the fuck up for an instant and let her speak.
Levi Gomez
I was actually thinking the opposite when I heard her on Dead Pundits a couple of weeks ago and again now here, that it really brings the Gell-Mann Amnesia effect into focus for me. I listen to all these pundits and they always sound so knowledgeable but when they get into a topic like this that I'm pretty familiar with, they sound so pedestrian, like they've all just been listening to other disconnected media hacks and don't really get it, or worse, get it backwards. And then, of course, next week I'll have forgotten about it all and I'll be back to thinking they know anything about anything.
Might be interesting to actually read the book and see if it's any more interesting.
Brody Sanders
I haven't listened to the new ep yet but yeah on the other one she came across as pretty knowledgeable and well-versed
Thomas Green
What about what she says do you think she gets wrong?
Finally. By far the most unlikeable person in that entre milieu.
Nathaniel Howard
…she'd call us a bunch of bitter losers?
I mean these people don't really change the narrative when it comes to online communities in general.
Julian Reed
She has a lot more nuance than that.
Elijah Butler
Holy shit is this true? How many listen to Chapo?
Tyler Moore
Like, a lot more than that. They rake in over $60,000+ a month in Patreon subscriptions to the pod
Noah Gray
Chapo: 14,360 Drunken Peasants: 1,604 Damn son.
Sebastian Cook
Yeah she wouldn't call us bitter losers but misguided people who have clinged on to edginess for too long. Remember this past episode she specifically said that trying to fight edginess with more edginess is a mistake
Ethan Taylor
I wouldn't be that paranoid, it's just that two of them are well-connected Jewish New Yorkers, so their "slightly-to-the-left-of-liberalism" schtick gets much more amplified than if they were a bunch of hicklibs making a podcast from Bumfuck, North Carolina
Also I always lmao at Felix's tough guy LARPing when he's the son of a wealthy Chicago lawyer that went to a 30k/semester private college prep school.
Jaxon Roberts
I don't have a soundcloud account actually.
Kayden Jones
I mean he did work as a bouncer for a while
Leo Turner
he looks pretty fit and i don't see how his education should matter
Jordan Collins
She doesn't have any nuance. I don't think she even looked at any 4chan boards besides Holla Forums, Holla Forums, and /r9k/. Just painting the entire site with the same large brush.
Joshua Rogers
have you read any of the book?
Austin Brooks
No, I'm basing this entirely of off her two podcast appearances and the original article.
Luke Martinez
tbf, I think she's solely focused on political/societal aspects
watching board culture on /fa/, for example, doesn't give any insights for a political writer
Listening to the latest episode got me think about Holla Forums's role in the culture war. The last thing we want is the far-right to make greater gains among young people and one of the best things we can do is challenge them as the edgy bogeyman for the alt-right. I think this a role we are more for for than organizing communes, oegs, and whatever else. We may be focusing too much on fucking with the idpol left than the right as a whole.
Camden Bailey
*more fit for than organizing communes, orgs…
Noah Ramirez
what the fuck, what are they even doing with all that money?
they better be sending some of that the leftist organizations or be planning to do something themselves
Wyatt Young
What are Will and Felix's actual ideology? Are they just hardcore socdems?
Felix made some very vaguely anti-left comment a while back when he said "anarcho-communists are the best kind of communist." I wonder how Matt and Amber felt about that.
Kevin Murphy
There's like six of them and they live in NYC with high living expenses. Probably living well, but not exactly rolling in money.
Carter Bennett
i believe they're planning to launch something that will help organization and boost up other lefty writers/podcasters. also it's split between 6 people, the majority of whom live in nyc
I generally agree with this, but first and foremost is presenting an alternative to the idpol/fun police left. Most people are turned off by the anti-fun liberals, and the left has been outside mainstream discourse for so long.
Parker Walker
I think they're demsoc, but neither are particularly well read. Felix joked on twitter yesterday about listening to David Harvey lectures between war nerd episodes so I think they're trying to learn.
Andrew Mitchell
lol whole lotta people here would agree with him
Dominic Watson
I think by just being ourselves and growing will do more than anything to undermine idol. My inner oldfag hates the thought, but to win the youth culture war we either need to become the new Holla Forums or change the narrative entirely on 4/pol/. Well, unless there is some other avenue I can't conprehend. It's hard to look at online culture wars outside the context of imageboards for me.
Wyatt Watson
5 million listeners is ludicrous. How did they get that number?
I'm guessing Chapo has about 100,000 active listeners and Cum Town has half that. Maybe a million individuals have listened to a single Chapo ep.
Elijah King
Get the impression that Will and Felix just have general left-wing attitudes. Will is definitely an anticapitalist even if he probably doesn't understand socialism.
I wish they'd do an ep with professional Marxist theorists.
Kayden Russell
i think it's just a cum town joke
Jayden Watson
They won't that'd alienate their virtue signaling petti bourgeois audience and stop the pateron bucks.
Eli Jackson
They're probably both just DemSocs who are interested in learning more. I could see Felix becoming an Ancom or Will becoming some kind of "Marxist without adjectives" like Matt and Amber. Will often mentions the fact that he hasn't really read a lot of theory but wants to, the real question is just when will he find the time, he seems like a busy guy. At the end of the day they're both Socialists who seem very sympathetic to revolutionary Marxism and Anarchism, so that's a good start. Personally i like that they aren't mired in sectarian bullshit, pan-leftism is what we need right now.
Jackson Reed
First of all, if they really cared about all that they'd break ties with Cumtown immediately. Cumtown would be far, far more alienating to Liberals and Social Justice types then mentioning Marx or Lenin. Secondly, Matt and Amber talk about Marxist theory all the time, and they had China Melville on the show and they all spoke very highly of Lenin as both a revolutionary and a thinker. Finally, Will has stated before on Curious Cat that they're trying to get either David Harvey or Richard D. Wolff on the show.
William Taylor
Anybody else listen to Whale Vomit (from The Baffler)? It's Sam Kriss and Amber and a bit more focused than Chapo. I really enjoy it.
10/10 times people who are actually impoverished aren't as banal as you are. They just want to fucking laugh for once
You're not in poverty quit role playing
Jonathan Morris
I listen to it. It's pretty good.
Nicholas Robinson
It's fantastic! I almost like it more then Chapo
Ryder Green
You have to be a certain kind of stupid to think you won't end up worse off in the long term for beating up a lawyer's son
Also lmao at you defending his e-cred like that
Owen Jenkins
felix is just anarcho-failson. pic related
Alexander Fisher
Thanks, I'm going to check it out I like Sam Kriss a whole lot
Also, I just listened to the Andrea Nagle episode and don't get what all the wizard sperging is about. It's was pretty sympathetic, only attacking the reactionary politics that spew from a certain set.
Landon Bailey
I don't like chapo anymore, they're far too rich
Elijah Brown
Do you begrudge leftist engineers too? Split 6 ways after Patreon's cut, they make about $100K each and that's if they aren't hiring an agent, investing some into equipment or anything like that. It's a lot more money than I'll ever make in a year, but it's not like they're making millions.
Easton Scott
and far too liberal
Leo Morris
There's already a thread for your weak ass astroturf, stay there.
Angel Wilson
That's such a weak answer lol
Felix is hilarious and really knowledgeable of current affairs, but he needs to get more into theory
Leo Allen
Guys, what's the highest acceptable income for a leftist? 20k? 10k?
Fuck it, we should alI should just go live as crustie panhandlers.
Mason Stewart
@cushbomb Got so riled listening to Will read the Megan McCardle article for the next Chapo neighbors called security.
kek
Nicholas Lee
As long as they continue pushing leftist ideas and getting more young people interested in them, who gives a shit? Who are they exploiting by a completely consequence free crowd-funding model?
Nathaniel Howard
They didn't force people to donate that much money per month.
Jacob Morris
I'm sorry they made fun of NEETs, virgins, and gamers for being predominately reactionary, but that is a social phenomenon that's taking place, and I know you're about to tell me that being mean to people like them is the wrong way to go about things, but nobodies trying to hold these faggots hands and win them over, the kind of faggots that go to Holla Forums or The Daily Stormer don't deserve sympathy or handholding, they're disgusting, and the fact that you'd take attacks on those kinds of people personally is weird, if you aren't a white nationalist or an MRA then guess what, it wasn't about you, chill out. All elephants are gray, but not everything that's gray is an elephant. All aut-right fags are kissless virgins, but not all kissless virgins are alt-right. And the ones that are alt-right certainly deserve to be mocked ruthlessly.
wdhmbt?
Jeremiah Bell
Absolutely this. Stop lumping yourself in with the anime-right because you share certain points of personal alienation with them. Unless you're a reactionary hamspergler then the mockery isn't aimed at you.
Noah Miller
kek. im using that from now on
Daniel Price
You idiots don't even know that NEETs virgins are gamers are predominately reactionary. These are huge populations of people. Your entire post is pure idpol ideology.
Jaxson Anderson
The average on soundcloud hovers around 60-90k listens per episode. I suppose iTunes have a bigger audience. Can't find any stats on that though.
Jonathan Cooper
absolutely this.
Is it the one she released post-Grenfell Tower blaze? Because that one is fucking infuriating
Henry Hill
Good to know that you're choosing the course of action which appeals to your gut instincts and makes you feel good rather than the course of action which is most likely to lead to the desired outcome. It is the same mistake that humans always make.
The right is actively trying to recruit betas. And betas are the MAJORITY of men. I think both sides shame, but when the right is the only one showing sympathy, the left is down in numbers. It's as simple as that.
Austin Watson
Can you two fucking spergs have your conversation in one thread rather than copying and pasting responses to each other in both?
John Adams
that's the only one I can think of
James Parker
kek
Carson Campbell
Dude I'm so sick of Nick and Stav shitting on Adam all the time, I hope he brings a gun to the podcast once or these days.
Connor Fisher
Probably the most meta thing I've ever heard is them shitting on Adam for repeating a joke that Nick had previously repeated like 3 times before.
Kevin Walker
Yeah it's so fucking annoying. Not even in a "poor Adam" type of way, just in how boring it is to listen to it.
Jace Diaz
i think the left will survive without betas and MRAs.
What are you talking about?
Carter Hall
Honestly Nick's been kind of angry for the past three pods, I don't know why but he's taking it out on Adam disproportionately. I'm also glad to see other anons noticed it, because I was feeling like they've just been dogpiling on him to the point where it isn't even funny, it just makes me worry about their actual friendship. I know I wouldn't be comfortable with that much one sided ribbing.
Connor Foster
I don't worry about their actual friendship because O&A was great for a decade after everyone started hating everyone behind the scenes, but the problem is that the show dynamic itself is awkward now. It feels contrived even when they're not attacking him.
And I'm glad more people dislike it as well, because the subreddit loves that shit for some reason.
Justin Lopez
It's gotten old. It's not funny when I can expect they're going to make a joke that Adam's grandfather might have raped a girl, that Adam went to Chinese prostitutes, or Adam steals jokes. I hope they're hearing from other people too. Nick has admitted on the podcast that his material getting old and repetitive is a serious fear of his.
Jaxson Barnes
Can confirm.
The left would need to be alive in order to survive.
The subreddit gets more activity from old O&A fans who can't spell adam's name without a ton of parentheses and hate chapo with a passion
Anthony James
Yeah they hate Amber too which is ironic because the last one she was one was the last one I consider a classic from start to finish
Samuel Anderson
Noticed that too they got so mad when nick went to that DSA thing lol
Matthew Hill
as someone on the right that likes to listen to smart leftists, I both enjoyed it (a lot of chuckles but no real belly laughs) but also felt really disappointed. Angela admits that white people are going to become minorities in their own countries and that they feel frustrated but…the answer is socialism. Okay, I understand the economic turmoil influences cultural and social movements. But how do you in one moment admit that yes, "anuddah shoah" is a thing and that future europeans will probably wake up to a europe that has no European traditions except outside of over priced specialty tourist shops, and then say "oh but they're just bitter virgins".
There's a lot of bitter virgin prana in every online movement, but I don't think you have to be some sexual deviant or deficient in socializing to want to continue on the traditions of your people. You know, like speaking English, or using toilets.
ultimately though we're just all riding that tiger through the kali yuga so it probably doesn't matter
it's strange how there's this recent trend of left wing thinkers trying to seriously address the reasons for right wing or white discontent with the political system, without actually displaying any sympathy. Politics is just theater by other means.
Mason Nguyen
There are "NEETs" and the like here. They're proof that just because you're on the margins of mainstream society doesn't make it automatic that you'll turn to reactionary politics. What Nagle is getting at is the certain brand of angry memy internet nazi, and no, those people deserve no real sympathy. Empathy, perhaps, but not sympathy.
As far as Europe turning minority white or whatever, heavy third world migration to the Global North has been predicted for decades as the South's resources are plundered, jobs become more skilled and require education, and society becomes more stratified/income inequality rises/social mobility is lowered. On top of climate change and things like desertification. Basically, the left has been trying to warn/do something all along and was ignored. Right wing and reactionary forces believe it's a social/ethnic/cultural problem that can be solved, but that's wrong.
Ryan Nguyen
so basically you're saying white people deserve to die because of global warming
I'd like to see a reinvigorated left(mostly because I enjoy a good conversation), but you offer no recourse other than a zero sum war.
What I find interesting is that Angela has this sort of cuckservative mindset that I think the Chapo guys like to rag on. She's all about the Western cannon and philosophy and stuff, but only when it means white men are quiet and accept whatever happens to them. It's a really intellectually dishonest understanding not just of the western cannon but of the few westerners alive that care about it in an experiential way.
There's just this very weird mental disconnect, and I notice it in the "alt right" as well. Most of these people don't really know fucking anything.
Also their characterizations of nihilism are boring and trite.
James Scott
What?! No, of course not. I'm saying mass migration from poor countries to developed nations (as we're seeing now) has been predicted for decades and it's entirely due to material conditions–not any kind of Jewish conspiracy or secret worldwide Islamic jihad.
And who would those "few westerners" be? What exactly are they doing or saying to make the world better, in your eyes?
Bentley Myers
Which is hilarious, because glancing at the threads and posting style you can tell people there seem to have 0 personality beyond mimicking whatever Nick does. So basically you have a bunch of men in their late 30s molding themselves after this 28 year old shithead and going apeshit whenever he makes a "your mom" joke to a co-host.
Grayson Harris
Yeah, every episode with Amber has been consistently good, I think it's because she's the only person they've had on who's willing to make fun of Nick and call him on his bullshit. Too bad Nick probably assumes r/cumtown is a good representation of his fanbase, when in reality there's probably a bigger chunk of the Cumtown audience that came over from Chapo and wouldn't go near that subreddit with a ten foot pole. Personally I don't have a reddit account, never have, never will.
William Long
Also, new premium Cumtown, it's decent, kind of a chill laid back ep. Amber's in the background.
When will Felix fulfill his destiny and get into Twitch?
Jeremiah Peterson
Can you imagine Felix on Twitch just playing an endless stream of MGS games? It'd be so fucking good.
Grayson Phillips
How does Amber manage to sound like your stereotypical upper-class white Stacey yet looks like an Asian with fetal alcohol disorder?
Logan Thomas
He spoke about it on Twitter a few times and I think it would be great. I'd like if Will and Virgil got into it as well, but I can't picture either wasting much time there.
Asher Hill
There are a few assumptions that you're probably missing out on that go unstated since the people on the show are all leftists. Leftists don't really give a shit about trying to preserve or change culture because leftists believe that culture results from the structure of social relations in a society. Culture isn't static, it's constantly changing, and the only way to direct that change is through political action. Additionally leftists believe that capitalism is largely responsible for the destruction of local communities and that capitalism destroys "traditional" culture by commodifying it and selling the shit out of it.
Joseph Collins
I remember Matt saying on a periscope that Virgil is a pretty big gamer and that if Felix went through with the Twitch channel that it'd be a joint endeavor between the two of them. I think the real issue is just that starting a Twitch channel is a pretty big commitment, they'd be beholden to a schedule, and once they started they wouldn't really be able to just stop or whatever. Also, and I know this would never happen, but if they did make a Twitch channel, my ultimate fantasy is that they could drag Matt or Amber on and force them to play games with them on special occasions, because I feel like their complaining and general confusion/frustration would be amazing, but that'd probably be about as likely as Mike going on Pre Rec sorry, don't know if you watch Red Letter Media
Aiden Watson
Stop being a disingenuous cunt, it's not like a socialist society would care about preserving anything related to the destruction of local communities
Lucas Davis
I don't get how I'm being disingenuous, I'm trying to let you know what leftists generally claim to believe. Most people including leftists think that local communities are good and important. I don't understand why you'd be so angry and surprised by this tbh. Leftists want common ownership of the means of production, the only obvious way to achieve this is by localizing production. Localized production needs strong local communities to even be implemented fam.
Brandon Sullivan
i would watch
Speaking of, where's that podcast he was on in which he just talked about MGS? Anyone have a link?
Jacob Martinez
this is what we actually believe though. how is "disingenuous"?
Landon Martin
Guys I mean I can't sympathize with people this well off
they just put up a free mini-ep with Jeremy Scahill on soundcloud too
Ian James
Imagine being this asspained by getting honest responses
Christopher Wilson
Dude in is a notorious troll and a liberal. After taxes and expenses they make less than 90k each in NYC. This is plenty but in an environment where we laugh off people calling Sanders a sell-out for being a millionaire now declaring 90k too much for a left winger to have is fucking retarded and just lifestylism (hurr durr if you like socialism so much why do you get and use money?)
Colton Stewart
I meant the MEGA for the latest premium ep? Or was that a teaser at all?
Ah yes. If there is a man who can make historical materialism sexy again that man is Matt.
Daniel Diaz
Was this the latest premium ep?
Jaxson Butler
on this guys bootleg thing
Carter Cooper
And he really knocked it out of the park with this one. It's really put me in the mood to read more about the history of the Socialist Party of America and the IWW.
Parker Moore
Agreed. Really informative episode.
Jeremiah James
thanks fam
bout to listen
Jeremiah Robinson
Which ep?
Ian Wright
But they're tweeter goons and we're channers, we are incompatible.
Jason Cook
Nick is the president and owner of the DSA
Jace Cox
The Inebriated Past: Sewer Surfin'
Sebastian Torres
yeah they do when they're not joking around. a lot of their guests have genuine political insight
Michael Moore
sam kriss is a twat
Ethan Williams
I used to dislike him as well, but his Chapo appearances changed my mind. He's a lot better on podcasts than he is dropping literary diarrhea about videogames on Jacobin.
Jacob Howard
Has anyone in the Chapoverse said anything about the Evergreen protests?
Brandon Wood
Why? I like him.
Link please? This sounds very much up my alley.
Carson Perez
Matt proving again and again to be the best chapo boy
Lucas White
Cum Town sucks now. Calling Adam a faggot or claiming he steals everything he says has taken over the show. An hour of that isn't funny, it's fucking boring and predictable. Nick should just kill himself already.
Jaxson Bell
Latest episode wasn't that bad, they laid off a bit and when they did rib him it was in a friendly manner for the most part.
Christian Moore
I haven't even finished the last four or five episodes.
Jack Reed
Who do you guys follow on Twitter (or any other social media) that post more about Marxism, theory, history, economics, etc?
Brandon King
Lol twitter isn't for theory
Benjamin Myers
The latest episode they call him a faggot a bunch but it was actually kinda funny for once. They need to cut it the fuck out for a bit though, shit's getting old as fuck.
A ton of people don't get Zizek. If you're gonna start filtering people based on that you're gonna have a bad time
Brandon Rivera
Dude, Sam Kriss is a Lacanian and the points Zizek was making weren't that difficult to understand. Also his responses were all uncharitable, petty, and stupid as fuck.
Evan Peterson
That nigga needs to go on Cumtown.
Anthony Allen
I fucking hate Walter Mignolo. But Sam Kriss's critique of Zizek isn't as uncharitable as you're implying, he's a student of Zizek who's disappointed by Zizek's politics, which is understandable, Zizek is often far more concerned with being provocative then being coherent.
Kriss being a lacanlian does not in any way preclude him from misunderstanding Zizek
Benjamin Stewart
I don't see how that article you liked was relevant, but I've read that piece and it too is as uncharitable as I'm implying. The problem common to all of Kriss's critiques of Zizek is that he argues around him and not against him. Zizek's argument here was essentially that we should take anti-immigrant rhetoric seriously and treat the migrant crisis as a political problem and not as a moral problem. Kriss's response to this is to reprimand Zizek for being racist and Eurocentric. He completely ignores that Zizek is arguing against both the anti-immigrant right and the left-liberal positions on their own terms. This is a completely dishonest move imo.
Jace Cooper
he is that history lesson was good
Anthony Kelly
I'm listening to Matt's appearance on No Cartridge Audio (a video game podcast by a left twitter poster) and it is so fucking bad. It is painfully apparent that's Matt is taking his hate of video games (or his performative hate of gaming for brand points) and working backwards to rationalize it. When pressed for better explanations he stammers and ends up repeating himself or comes close to saying all art and all technology is naturally reactionary or fascistic.
Carter Hernandez
If you think that's bad listen to Felix praising the philosophy of Metal Gear Solid a few episodes earlier.
Honestly these guys need to learn which of their characteristic opinions and gimmicks are and aren't worthy of further elaboration. Liking or disliking videogames, hating hip-hop, hating Hamilton and so on are all fun when it's just casual banter, but when they try to be serious cultural critics about it can be fucking painful.
Brayden Adams
Yeah, I was also disappointed in the Felix episode, particularly because MGS is my favorite game series and i feel like there's so much that can be said about those games, especially 2 and 3, it's crazy, they're all so thematically dense. Instead we got a bunch of garden variety observations about how war is "like really, really complicated man" and the host struggling to try to make Felix's observations sound more profound then they were. George Weidman's Super Bunnyhop videos on the MGS games do a much better job, especially on MGS 3. Aside from that, I did prefer Matt's episode. He's a lot better at bullshitting and stretching things out, and he isn't wrong in pointing out that a strange reactionary culture has grown out of the "gaming community" like a tumor, and he isn't wrong for wanting to understand why it happens, and maybe his observation that a lot of games are complex skinner boxes isn't entirely off, but he's definitely putting the cart before the horse on that observation. I mean sure games distract people from reality, but so does all art, all art is artifice, which i guess is what Matt was getting at when he said all art is "reactionary", Socrates himself believed art was dangerous, and in Plato's Republic the ideal society they map out literally censors all art, which is crazy, and if you're going to defend a position like that you need to go all out, you can't say all video games are reactionary unless you're willing to make the same argument about books, movies, music, and unless you're willing to support Cultural Revolution and Stalinist measures as a remedy, otherwise you're just being an obnoxious contrarian curmudgeon. like Adorno with pop music
Isaiah Bailey
I haven't seen/read much criticism of videogames from a political and cultural point of view, so my references are pretty limited, but someone posted this video here a while ago and I loved it:
I wish Hegelbon's podcast was something more along those lines than what it is now. Most of the time I feel like he's just describing the games while making passing references to philosophers whenever he can. Like, I love Planescape: Torment, but I couldn't finish his 20-minute analysis of it because he simply wasn't saying anything interesting.
Isaiah Russell
They just put out their WW review.
As someone who wrote their honours paper on Animal Man through the lens of Debord and Frederic Jameson, I'm pissed WB keeps pushing this reactionary angle on a comic company that has reliably housed further left writers than anywhere else in the States. Out of all the writers that could been chosen as a template for these movies they chose the outliers of post 9/11 Miller and fucking BYRNE, a laughingstock pedo who wanted Superman' s mom to land on earth and die in childbirth so Superman could be a US citizen by birth, even though Byrne himself was Canadian.
I love that you can just insert arguing with your dad while nude into basically any stereotype they formulate.
Isaiah Wilson
It's weird that this episode and the movie in general coincides so well with a sudden uptick in Israel/Palestine discussion and arguments. Is increased propaganda coming out in response to increased anti-Israel sentiment or am I just imagining it?
Landon Long
It's the same propaganda you always see. I think the industry operates more based on a few commonly accepted narratives and presumptions than as calculated, immediate reactions to specific circumstances like that.
Like, there are thousands of movies that if they were made today we'd be like "oh, they're selling us a war on Syria" or "oh, it's about Putin" but it's not really Syria or Putin, it's just the fact the politics and the economics of mass culture are so shitty that they always end up producing something on the molds of prevailing political discourses, and those are consistent regardless of the turn of events.
For the most part, I don't imagine the producers and filmmakers getting told by the powers that be to do something that will give public support to this or that particular cause, but instead I picture them just sitting around a table, stoically deciding what sells and what doesn't, what offends people and what doesn't, what divides the audience and what doesn't, and arriving at a sterile product that contains all the nationalism and the bigotry that the regulars have been trained elsewhere to respond positvely to.
Tbh both sides in this argument are being over-dramatic. Chapo is definitely poking fun at alt-right types who are stereotypically beta, but the poster who claimed that "All aut-right fags are kissless virgins" was full of shit; Chapo never made that claim. Tbh I see a bunch of alt-righters on twitter who have handles like "ShoothbrainCHUD" and shit, but who haven't actually listened to the show. So basically my point is that Chapo is definitely making fun of these people, but these people aren't likely to be converted by a leftist comedy show anyways. They only really listen to the bits that mention the alt-right and misinterpret what is being said because they don't have any context for what they're hearing.
Christopher Perez
The old, "We ridicule both sides argument", the last refuge of a scoundrel.
I don't have any sympathy for Nazis but it's very clear to me this is more about being able to mock poor people and use the fact that some of them are Nazis as cover.
This is why I think the majority of Chapo and weird Twitter is petite bourgeois or really really wants to be.
Jacob Garcia
No, they definitely are. The first incarnation of the alt-right was the MRA "manoshpere". Just a lot of weirdos who believed the only possible reason they weren't getting laid was because they lived in a Matriarchal society where Feminism ruined everything. From there they just naturally started to bleed in with all the stormfags and then the narrative became about how multiculturalism was making women get blacked by all the black Chads with BBCs. It almost all stems entirely from sexual neuroses.
>>>/reddit/
Owen Ross
Lel, forgot I was wearing a shitposting flag
Kayden Hall
This is very weak b8 Holla Forums
Ian Gonzalez
It ain't bait, you know damn well pol doesn't know what a petite bourgeois is.
Why do you guys act like Chapo and weird Twitter is some kind of vanguard.
How is that Reddit. Seriously just give me like a sentence.
David James
Kantbot, is that you?
Jack Collins
They seem waaaay more interested in the fact that some in the alt right have trouble finding partners than the fact that they are Nazis.
You could replace the word alt right with the word nerd or dork and it would be indistinguishable from bullying.
Also I don't even think it's true that a lot of guys on the alt right can't find partners.
Christian Clark
And neither do you faggot. It reads like you're using random buzzwords. "chapo are racist against the workers because they make fun of Nazis on the internet". Is defending the aut-right the hill you want to die on? Why would anyone other then a Holla Forumsyp make a bunch of posts about how Chapo are "petite bourgeois enemies of the people" unless you're trolling. No one else would care, anyone else would just think it's funny.
You speak almost exactly like the type of faggot who'd browse reddit. You unironically called an user a "scoundrel". You should be ashamed and kill yourself.
Daniel Morris
This is getting painfully transparent.
Kevin Adams
I think Felix was alt right because he was an Eminem fan, yes… Man you are still butt hurt about that?
Is scoundrel a word they use on Reddit a lot? Honestly I rarely visit that sight, and have never posted there.
Boy you sure get mad when I call Chapo petite bourgeois but anyone who has some much as gone to Reddit is an irredeemable liberal.
I'm not defending the alt right. They are my enemy and misrepresenting them like I think Chapo does is dangerous. I like jokes about Nazis too, but damn with them it's more about making their audience feel superior than trying to make something very ugly humorous.
Also not finding a partner is deeply rooted in class and being poor i know that's not the same thing So mocking that not only alienates potential allies that are having the same problem, it lulls leftists into treating these guys like losers.
Feminists did the exact same thing until a bunch of successful anti feminists started popping up. Litterally all the alt right has to do to make Chapo look foolish is produce some alt right people that are well adjusted. Considering that fascism appeals to porkies that probably won't be hard to do.
Xavier Smith
Holy shit dude we get it. You don't like the podcast and you don't like the hosts. We're not going to stop liking it because we don't agree with any of your fundamental premises for disagreement with them (lmao fucking eminem) and you're not going to ever like them. So spare us this fucking cycle of you shitting up this otherwise amicable thread and fuck off.
Elijah Carter
You're either a troll or you're literally retarded.
Brody Morales
The OP started this tread off criticizing Chapo. Just because your a fan and want to derail it into why they're great doesn't mean I have to.
Again, you guys get so shall we say triggered by criticism of Chapo. You guys claim to be so Clever but also come a part when one single person says they sucks and lays out why.
Connor Harris
Irrelevent, it got cycled as a semi-permanent chapo/podcast discussion thread and that is the coninuing purpose of the thread
I've had plenty of conversations with you inside and outside this thread, and it's not a matter of being "triggered". It's simply not a pragmatic use of anyone's time. Your arguments are never convincing to anyone who is a fan of the podcast and we're certainly never convincing you. Go tell people who haven't been introduced that it's bad and why it's bad if you care so much. Start a niche blog on the subject. You're certain to get a dedicated following of belligerent Eminem haters at the very least.
William Robinson
nigga we about to duel or something? Get your seconds and thirds and come see my ass.
Your schtick is old. Ok, you don't fuck. We get it. Your attempts to conflate this into some kind of materialist struggle are lame as fuck. Take a look around you–poor people are fucking all the time. You're trying to score some points off a lefty podcast and flailing around with terms you don't quite seem to grasp.
Cameron Long
I'm not necessarily trying to convince you, there are a lot of lurkers on this board. I know my own opinions have been changed by following arguments on this board.
Litterally his albums are not stop homophobia and women hatred. You guys redicule the alt right for not finding partners but think Eminem hatred of them is somehow ironic or something
Luke Scott
there were many previous chapo threads and then mods cycled this one to clean up the catalog this one just happened to be the one that got cycled because it had a lot of replies (from mostly fans). as you'll see, this is where we fans come to post about it and other podcasts. criticism is welcome, but at this point you're just spamming idiotic shit while on your nogfnazi crusade
Brody Myers
Because OP felt we were getting a lull of unfunny episodes, but the show's in a pretty big upswing since Jezza won the election. The point of this thread was never to claim the show is "petite bourge COINTELPRO" or whatever the fuck it is you're claiming. Now it's a cyclical thread for Chapo fans and for sharing other Lefty podcasts.
Kevin Baker
Eminem isn't even notably misogy.nist compared to modern rap much less 90s rap. And you can't maintain outrage at the podcast for disparaging explicitly and proudly misog.ynist politically active groups and then whinge about one of them expressing fondness for an artist from his childhood who used to rely on those themes. Your entire argument comes across as either schizophrenic and insincere and that above all else is why your presence on this board when it comes to this topic is always met with disdain. You don't come across as someone with legitimate grievances or an actual point, just some bitter person with an axe to grind.
Here's a fun exercise for you if you insist on this weak line of attack. Name and defend your top 5 favorite artists. None of them can be problem.atic in any way.
Cameron Gutierrez
damn this shit stirrer is such a fucking faggot holy shit lmao
Eli Robinson
I can't, rap has always had a woman problem. Now to your goal post moving, I don't think Felix, Eminem or his fans are predecessors to the alt right because of a few qibs. All of those albums are themed that way, they a packed to the rafters with woman and homo hate. The kind that's indistinguishable from the alt right.
Liking that extreme level of hate is indicative of your mind set. The alt right is borne from that same white straight alienated strain. The alt right took what Eminem rapped about and took it to its next logical conclusion. I'm not the only rap fan that felt this way even at the time.
Brayden Johnson
Oh I see how it is. You agree that rap has a women problem but you only zero in on Eminem because he's white. Do you think it's just more natural for black people to hate women? It's honestly disgusting that you would hold such low standards and such low regard for black people, which seems indistinguishable from the kind of opinions held by the alt-right.
Using those sorts of stereotypes to build your case is indicative of your mindset. The alt right is born from that same white alienated strain that despises black culture and any white person that would associate with it. The alt right took that mistrust of black culture and took it to its next logical conclusion.
Michael Morales
Dude, you're fucking retarded. Media doesn't matter nearly as much as you're saying it does. The alt-right exists because of alienation and a lack of a strong left alternative.
Jeremiah Russell
Now i know you're trolling.
Jacob Smith
This. And because they're kissless, dateless virgins.
Adam Lewis
It's probably a factor, but not all sweet virgins or wizards turn into reactionaries. There are quite a few on this board, for example. It's probably just that alienated young people turn to radical politics of all stripes, (not that I credit the aut-right with any sort of coherent politics).
Parker Hernandez
There's degrees to this. It's one thing to say ho a bunch it's quite another to have rap about murdering your ex or a homo on every album. That shit was so obvious a insert your female ire here hook.
Ryder Young
The inability to navigate the social field well enough to find a partner is a big source of alienation in our modern society, but it's hardly the only source. There's a ton of incels, but there is a decent number of people on the alt-right who fuck. Don't be reductive fam, it makes your argument weaker.
Alexander Reyes
Who are you talking about when you say 'alt-right'?
James Lopez
We have Trump as president. His ascendancy created wholly by the media.
Adam Perry
Isn't that less problematic than saying ho a lot? Saying ho is a statement on women in general, but murdering your ex is about one person in particular.
Owen Rivera
It's not about murdering your ex though, it's about blaming alienation on women. same reason why lyrics use the word "you" instead of say the name of the person the singer is singing about.
Jaxson Walker
Wew, that's literally the most retarded thing that you've said so far. And you've said a lot of retarded shit.
Carter Brooks
I know fam, I'm just trolling the Yugoposter
It's like I said in my original post
Bentley Martinez
Having multiple specific women in your life to take out your frustration on is the opposite of alienation.. How many times are you going to defeat your own argument?
Tyler Reyes
How do you know?
If the song is directed at his ex, why would he use her whole name? Do you never call someone "you" when you talk to them?
Easton Reyes
Dude you're just not a leftist and you clearly hold no meaningful materialist perspective. And that's ok I guess, but don't be surprised when leftists disagree with you.
William Sullivan
This is wrong and you're dumb for thinking this. There's a fair number of alt-right people who fuck, so claiming that they're all incels makes your argument way weaker. Stop being a reductive retard.
David Hill
True, there are plenty of alt-right that are marcel
Oliver Wood
I meant to quote
Nathaniel Taylor
No. I'm right. And I'm actually very smart for thinking this.
Evan Cook
I can see where would disagree with you, by pointing to the fact that their highest spokespeople (read: e-celebs) tend to be outwardly well-adjusted. But anyone who has been to Holla Forums, any given youtube comments section, seen anime frog twitter, knows the actual vast majority of of the alt-right tend to fit the bitter incel stereotype. BTW, the whole argument ITT is sort of stupid because as you said in your original post, Chapo was shitting on that specific subset of the new right. (And yeah, deservedly, too).
Hunter Parker
Uhh maybe you're right but Trump,was a non starter politically when he ran. He was on fox everyday all throughout 2016. You might assume it was because of ratings but there's evidence to the contrary, all I think Allies was still in charge and was notorious for that kind of liberal trolling.
Trump being president was as laughable as Hulk Hogan being president at the start of 2016. Now the Rock wants to run, and has a realistic chance of winning.
How is he not just a wholesale product of the media. He was a Clinton supporter before he ran and has more skeletons in his closet than her.
Josiah Wilson
I>>1808849 Please stop, even Eminem himself made a self aware song addressing this.
John Collins
"Stan" was a song addressing the very thing I'm saying about his fans interpreting his hatred for his ex for hatred for the women in their own lives.
Luis Russell
I'm just going to be completely honest here. You're devoting far too much mental real estate to Holla Forums who fucking cares if they actually get laid or not. Cut ass on them because they're Nazis and ignore them otherwise. Being nice to Holla Forums isn't a form of praxis, all the alt-right types constantly call their opponents NEETS and virgins, the reasons people become alt-right are complex and often personal, there's no way you or I could know, but I can assure you that making some kind of strange campaign to make the Left appeal more to "betas" would be strange and misguided. Also, you took the b8, you've been actually arguing with the Yugoposter like they're a person, they're just a troll.
Brody Kelly
Events don't spring from the ether unprompted and Trump wasn't the aberration that every liberal outfit depicted him as. The idea that a singular media narrative can be shaped and utterly change the direction and culture of a civilization singularly is a liberal delusion, at best it can hope to, over a long enough period of time, create small changes in the culture that present in the material conditions which shapes the culture over and over in a loop. In any case Trump was the logical conclusion of decades of conservative initiatives that had real meaningful impact on not just the culture but on the conditions of the people who reflected that culture and only out of those conditions did he win and not because the right talking heads bigged him up on CNN.
If you don't believe that this is a trend that can be explained through historical, material analysis then you're just not really a leftist like I said, and I don't mean that as an insult but as an observation. This is exactly why so many people are scoffing at your eminem theory of alt-right origination. People didn't become alt-right because they listened to the right music, at most the same conditions that led them to associate with that music would lead them to associate with the alt-right even if the two groups overlapped to a significant degree (pro-tip: they don't. The alt-right is dwarfed so ridiculously by the entire demographic of eminem's fanbase it's comical) it still wouldn't be the causation you're making it out to be.
Noah Cruz
when you're right, you're right
Jose King
I only hurt you because I care comrade.
Sebastian Johnson
Exactly. And presuming to know makes you look pretentious as hell. I get that circlejerking about how they're virgins feels nice, but it's not useful or correct. Tons of us used to be Holla Forumsyps and we became leftists because people here were patient enough with us to help us understand.
Ryan Roberts
But it's fun, and that's all that matters.
Ryder Wood
I should also point out that I'm actually very polite to Nazbols and actually have a very high threshold when it comes to explaining to newfags that being anti-idpol doesn't mean accepting reactionary idpol. But that only extends to comrades, Holla Forums shouldn't get anyone's sympathy, and once you've crossed sides there's no reason to feel any kind of affinity with those cunts, you've left it behind and good riddance. Sure, you remember being that guy, but you aren't them, don't imagine you are, because you aren't, the difference is you came to a conclusion that they've yet to reach, and it's one that they need to come to on their own. Being nice to Holla Forumsyps doesn't endear them to you, being rude to them doesn't mean they won't become a Leftist in a few years for personal reasons you'll never understand, either way I perfer to have fun and make fun of these faggots, they well deserve it.
Brandon Bailey
What I'm getting at is, once someone's a Leftist all past crimes are forgiven, they're my comrade and I'm loyal to them by default, it's hard enough living in this Capitalist as it is, and a place like Holla Forums isn't just a good place to find PDFs and so self-guided study, it's also a community, a place for Leftists to shitpost in peace and create an online support system for one another. So yeah, when a troll comes around and makes 9 different posts about how Eminem is "really probla.matic u guyz, Chapo BTFO XXD" obviously I don't see why we should humor his faggotry. My point is, if someone's a Leftist, be nice, no matter what, no matter how wrong headed you think they are, and always proceed in good faith, but please do not extend this courtesy to Holla Forumsyps unless they extend it to you first, otherwise you're just embarrassing yourself.
Xavier Mitchell
*Capitalist shitfest also, admittedly, I'm also not nice to anprims and third worldists, but that's only because I don't consider them Leftists at all
Jaxson Sullivan
agreed
but wait… you're nicer to NazBol than to anprims and third-worldists?
Christopher Lee
Of course. All unironic Nazbol posters are just recently converted Holla Forums who don't know any better. AnPrims, on the other hand, literally support a political theory that calls for the mass genocide of most of the human population and Third Worldists often aren't even Socialists, they just want the Global South to encircle and crush the West, it's like being a Nazbol turned on it's head, and it's retarded, anytime I encounter these people I try my hardest to dissuade them of their beliefs. Nazbols are kind of just adorable, and every Nazbol I've talked to is usually kind of hapless.
Connor Gonzalez
wtf did you retards do to this nice thread?
Jack Stewart
Monday/Friday = Full interview Chapo episodes.
Wednesday = Movie review/Reading series
Tuesday = Felix livestream gaming or UFC chat, Saudi or whatever.
Thursday = Matt history professor show.
I love Chapo, but the quality of the show has been medicore for a while now and they're getting complacent and lazy.
Elijah Thomas
Ok guys what is your favorite Chapo MOVIE review?
Oliver Brown
probably lady ghostbusters.
Jordan Carter
The Nazi olympics film.
I've always wondered why in ye olde sport people were just fucking jack shit.
Nicholas Sullivan
arent they writing a book?
Noah Cooper
Even the most popular YT dipshits don't have a regiment this tight. That said, I agree that they promised video recordings and a website full of fun shit, I assume they're still working on logistics. I also want a Felix and Virgil twitch channel. Matt and Amber need to make monthly Frost/Chistman eps, and Matt needs to at least do a bi-monthly Inebriated Past. I think Matt doesn't want to blow money on a good mic because he's moving to NY soon.
Ayden Phillips
they are pulling in more than enough cash that the guy can go out and buy a $200 mic and barely even notice. Unless they are funneling most of their money into major expansion or toward some lefty organisation(s) and really can't spare it, there's not really an excuse for potato equipment and lacklustre production.
I mean, I don't really think it's desirable for them to turn into a flashy faux-professional operation like, say, the young turks or anything but I understand people wanting more out of them for the kind of scratch they're making and the reach they have. Personally, I'd really like less Felix and Will (or at least for them to stake out some kind of coherent position), more Matt and Amber, less wtfpwned xDD le New York pundits, more international guests and more serious policy and strategy talk. Maybe that's expecting too much given the sort of upper crust NYC journo milieu they're all stewing in. Still, barring the core crew doing anything more interesting, they could be using their Brand™ more than they are to help others do more important stuff if they can't/won't,
Parker Richardson
I think it would be good for them to expand their operation and have better production value at least, but not to that level please god no
Nathan Hughes
where do i begin with CTH?
Grayson Sullivan
the latest one and the post british election episodes are p good
How long and why must we long for an hour long podcast entirely conducted by matt???? i love chapo but come the fuck on this guy speaks the unadultered truth, every fucking time i hear felix or will im just waiting for them to shut the fuck up and hear the genius irreverence of cushbomb ha pretty fucking please with sugar on top make chapo a side project for this perfect intellect, i quote bukowski here yeah fuck you: the gods wait to delight in you (I am a fan of this fat fucker, voltaire bastards, god fucking bless him)
Jackson Turner
maybe he needs structure
Thomas Brown
Because every time any of them tries going solo or into a side project it turns out to be utter shit
Charles Wilson
sewer socialists was god tier
Jacob Ortiz
I dont want to come accross as a fanboy who would enjoy separating these talents. No. I just wish for a clear space where theory and history and projective standards could be perfectly met, something forward and this guy -matt- when i hear him i believe
Carter Foster
Idk about a solo project but they should definitely have him on whale vomit
Colton Wilson
Prospective politics, the end or of satire. I dont know friend but god damn i cant help but to think about the next step!
Brody Ramirez
In my involuntary narcisim i quoted myself faaak
Oliver Ortiz
I can imagine that Matt actually knows shit, but he has a ton of stupid opinions as well. Felix at least accepts that he only knows shit about one thing, which he knows pretty well though. Felix is also the funniest of the bunch tbh.
Lincoln Jones
True, I find myself really difficult empathizing with irony. You MUST believe in something! And not just anything, we are here in this space, life is precious etc. Felix is the best and charming dismanteling the horrible inconsistiencies of modern life and yes i love him BUT i think that what matt is trying to educate all over our asses is that we have a better and richer stantard as human beings, and I believe him not only because its the truth that is the only reason, our only traut that sets us apart and closer to divinity. It might sound bonkers, but the truth is that you and i are closer to angels than automatons who laugh at their own selfies
Blake Green
I fucked up bad the mid sentence near the end, I propose a compliment for the brave! I love this song: youtube.com/watch?v=akwByiGxvYg its sad beautiful and oh so fucking hot I love it
Michael Gonzalez
Also, merchandise.
Juan Robinson
Lets be clear, remove the fucking poison, DFW : The next literary "rebels" in this country might well merge as some weird bunch of antirebels, born oglers who dare somehow to back away from the ironic watching, who have the childish gall actually to endorse and instantiate single-entendre principles. Who treat of plain old undtrendy human troubles and emotions on our common struggle with reverence and conviction. Who schew self consciousness and hip fatigue. This anti-rebels would be out dated, of course, before they even started. Dead on the page. Too sincere. Clearly repressed. Backward, quaint, naive, anachronistic. Maybe That'll be the point. Maybe that's why they will be the next rebels. Real rebels, as far as I can see risk disapproval. The old postmordern insurgents risked the gasp and squeal shock and disgust, outrage, censorship, accusations of socialism, anachranism, nihilism. TODAY THE RISKS ARE DIFFERENT. The new rebels might be artists willing ti risk the yawn, the rolled eyes, the cool smile, the nudged ribs, the parody of gifted ironists, the "oh how banal". To risk accusations of sentimentality, melodrama. Of overcredulity of softness of willingness to be suckered by a world of lurkers and tarers who fear the faze and ridicule above the imprisionment without law. Who knows.
Nathan Smith
This This irony stuff is going to age about as badly as the the 90s rebel without a cause tude did.
Lucas Sanchez
Irony has been around and popular for as long as communication has. Though given what we know about you from this thread I'm not surprised that it baffles your autistic sensibilities
Brody Sullivan
90s was about sarcasm.
Just take a look at any given mst3k. Pre reboot is sarcastic, post reboot is ironic.
One is funny and the other isn't
Liam Gomez
All of you have bad opinions and need to stop posting. Also, these all read like they were written by the same person. I wish Yugoposter would leave us alone tbh.
Dylan Peterson
your post makes no sense dude
Eli Bailey
They're wrong about Alamo Drafthouse being covertly racist
Christopher Foster
Yes, and it can be abused too. Like the other poster said, it's being abused by people that don't want to risk standing for anything, because if you take a concerete stand on anything you open yourself up to getting criticism back.
If everything you say is ironic and it's ultimately proved wrong you can safely retroactively adjust to what degree and how you meant it.
If you I fucking believe this and I don't care who knows it, is a lot harder to come back from.
I'm an asshole not autistic, I believe people who do this have egos that are to fragile to withstand criticism. It's so staggeringly clear irony bro value social standing above everything else.
Also I'm just one person if your right why get so butt mad about it, I swear this is the reason people like Philip greaves have any realavance at all.
Leo Phillips
Anyone have a link to the premium episodes?
Jason Walker
ctrl-f black-wolf
Cameron Hill
wut
Carter Fisher
CTRL F BLACK-WOLF
do it and you'll find a link which you'll click on and find the new premium episode
How he keeps fucking predicting the future with jokes on twitter is utterly astonishing
Day before: I bet there's a disease where someone's twelve years old but still has the body of a baby
Everyone: But Mat that's ridiculous
Day later: Stunned: Baby who's twelve years old discovered
Day before: Some joke about an nra supporter shooting down a blimp with a mortar
Day after: Blimp goes down at that golf bullshit
And it just keeps happening, Matt is a fucking modern day Cassandra, I don't know how he does it
Evan Kelly
Sargon trying really, really hard to get noticed again by irony twitter
Evan Sanchez
Honestly dude I don't even care at this point
Can someone here please fucking just shoot Sargon
Julian Clark
I wouldn't be bothered by it either if it didn't mean I'm seeing way more MAGA tards on everyone's mentions since yesterday. Seriously can't wait for him to go away
Ryder Reed
I want to see all of them cry about a leftist shooting of Sargon of Akkad that would just absolutely butter my biscuit because none of these people are British enough to come across as fucking eloquent other than Milo and PJW.
And they're hardly fucking Sargon
We have two down, one to go.
What are we waiting for, we just have to fucking ice Sargon, and they wouldn't be able to organize themselves to be this fucking annoying. Who would dog whistle them? Fucking Stefan Molyneux? Call him a cultist and move on.
Sargon represents the banality of evil and he has to be either destroyed or bent so utterly hard he can never socially recover
Michael Hall
i shiggy
Hunter Walker
That implies the salt right have another back up Sargon to take his place that's half as popular
Jaxson Green
They'd all end up rallying behind someone even more cancerous like Kraut
Tyler Wood
Let them, honestly. Just let them. Let them show their true colors
Henry Reyes
Which one is the guy who sounds like he's hollering across skype everytime he says something.
Parker Powell
and no this isn't a joke. There is one guy who sounds distorted and far away on way shittier equipment than the others.
William Hall
Matt lives in a different state then everyone else and does call in using skype. They point this out in multiple eps. He's moving to NY soon so it won't be an issue forever.
Aaron Russell
Does he have a fetish for getting owned? The last time he tried this he got owned so hard he tried to ask out Sam Kriss for dinner.
Nathan Anderson
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Elijah Young
#121 is on soundcloud now
Easton Campbell
This is now an Amber A'lee Frost fap thread
Ethan Martin
she does not look at all what i imaged her from her voice
Dominic Flores
His voice is low quality irl actually
Jackson Rodriguez
Literally nothing about her appearance makes sense
Tyler Smith
His voice sounds distorted even on the solo recordings!
On discourse collective we would just do podcasts over discord, but individually record audio. Then all the audio gets sent to whoever is producing, and they mix them. That way, you get the clean, original sound file from your own microphone directly into the sound card on your computer. They should just do that, then Matt's fancy $150 microphone would actually be worth something.
I actually wasn't being sarcastic, I was actually thanking you.
Bentley Reyes
who runs that link? We all knew good ol´ upload user, but that link is not run by anyone here right? What is that uploader dependant on?
Adrian Young
I thought it was someone here?
Nolan Campbell
Ok guys what's the best patreon episode to start with?
Nolan Lee
...
Carter Green
the caleb ones episodes 49 and 64
Daniel Wood
the link is literally 5 posts above you fam
Thomas Gonzalez
when is the episode gonna be up?
Im startin' to suffer from podcast abstinence :/
Benjamin Price
Still nothing on Black Wolf feed. :/
James Perry
I'm sure there's plenty of other things to make fun of the alt right for other than being virgins. Why would they go out of their way to attack the most vulnerable in our society(virgins)? Also your mocking isn't doing anything. Fascists know that they make no sense and use it to their advantage. The liberal media mocked Trump every chance they got and he plowed through because you're shit comedy means as much as liberals like Stephen Colbert. If you feel the Nazi's are irredeemable then kill them like the Red Army. Otherwise you're just making fun of them while they have free reign to do what they want. None of this pussy antifa punch and run away shit. You either convert the Nazi's or you kill them. Everything else is LARPing.
Leo Long
Genuinely surprised to see an article like this coming out of Macleans, after they spent years doing exactly what the NYT does with it's editorial page, as well as joyously celebrating Thom Mulcair's rightward sway on the NDP, decrying the return to the left after the election as "The death of a party" even after the Dipper they liked just got his ass handed to him .
Evan Hernandez
AHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHA WHAT THE FUCK I"M FUCKING DEAD Have you been outside this past fucking month? Just like, walked down a major downtown street? Do you have a job? I actually thought the only people who thought like this were the r9k robots themselves who are like either 95% teenagers or NEETs.
Carter Lopez
IT'S ONLINE
Hunter Lewis
the USSR and PRC actually restored a shit ton of folk traditions that would have otherwise been lost to feudal decadence. Traditional chinese medicine would have been lost completely if not for communist efforts. The Soviet Union greatly boosted russian folk music and russian classical composers. Not only that, but most of the folk music traditions in the US and Britain were rescued from oblivion by A.L. Lloyd and Alan Lomax, both communists.
Christian Jenkins
What the fuck are you talking about?
Wyatt Foster
The real problem about the incel shit is that it works pretty well now, but there is a very good chance Chapo listeners look no better than Kekistan dweebs. It gonna bite you in the ass at the second you get into the spotlight.
Isaac Gray
...
Ian Garcia
dis They'll either be revealed to be a bunch of softie suburban petite bourgeois sprinkled in with some brown and black people that drank to much Twitter koolaid and believe they are.
Jeremiah Kelly
Why?
Anthony Green
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Anthony Morgan
they joke about their audience being incel all the fucking time you dweeb
Camden Cook
This entire thread is full of posts by you where you're very upset about Chapo making fun of the alt-right and calling nerds and virgins. Why do you care so much? Why does that make you so angry?
Ryan Hughes
Who cares. I mean, every Chapo member except Brendan is very unattractive anyway. It's just a joke.
James Bennett
Thank you based ChiComs for enabling the near-extinction of rhinos, elephants etc all so some pot-bellied balding middle-aged Party member can get a placebo erection for when he fucks his secretary
Angel Butler
Anons why do you care so much about the opinions of two jaded trustafarian New Yorker ironybros and their hicklib sort-of friend that's actually sincere about leftism?
Elijah Morris
as a KV myself I don't give a fuck if they make fun of incels because incels look at their not getting any as this defining point of their life, that's why they call themselves incels I mean, can you imagine a more passive-aggressive title than "involuntary celibate", it just screams "FUCKIN WHORES WON'T FUCK ME CUZ I'M NOT A CHADDDDD", it's pathetic
and retards like shapiro and crowder use their lifestyle choice of waiting until marriage as a cudgel on others whom they shame and denigrate as "loose" or whatever, it's obviously just another way to feel superior to the unwashed masses
Daniel Martin
Because it's criminal how much money and attention they get versus other leftists that are far more substantive.
No, I get it that you need comedians, and I get I'm not going to like the humor of everyone. It's not that, it's as you said they seem to come from a rich background, they seem like they are just mining the current discontent with capitalism for $$$.
I think a good analogy is rap. I love rap, but rap is borne from struggle and oppression. So many people like Vanilla Ice just performed and presented rap a song this novel form of music, all the while trying to coop op it's hard earned reputation for being an art form voicing oppressed people.
Chapo Trap House are like the Vanilla Ice of leftists.
Kayden Carter
Yeah they should grab a gun and go into some southamerican jungle to fight with guerrillas.
Jace Howard
It would make a welcome change from their South-Park-tier "Dude, everything in politics sucks, like, y'know, only chuds care about shit lmao"
Jace Hernandez
Also what the fuck is up with that vocal fry, no grown male with normal test levels should sound like Biederman/Menaker
Ryder Lewis
Nobody says it's bad to make fun of a virgin. Everyone else at least has a vocal defense group. If you make fun of virgins, no one cares about how you feel. You just take the abuse and try to make it through the day. Also, I knew someone would only take that part of what I wrote and ignore the other part. You're so obvious. You ignore the real substance in order to bash on virgins who are isolated and suicidal.
Carson Torres
I'm not whoever the fuck that other guy is but it's the smugness that annoys me. As leftists you're supposed to avoid the traps that liberals fall into. You think making fun of people accomplishes anything when it's just patting yourselves on the back. Either kill them or convert them. Making fun of them does nothing (except make Chapo Trap House money)
Nolan Harris
That's not how definitions work. It's the public who defines you. You're talking like Tiger Woods or O.J. Simpson who say "I'm not black, I don't let that define me". People were upset when they said that because they are clearly black and wanted to separate themselves from other black people. Race is a bit different because there's no one killing virgins, however the collective derision is similar. No one has every said a positive thing about virgin males unless they were die hard religious. What you're doing is holding your head in the sand and pretending the thing everyone looks down on you for is not a problem because you "won't let it define you". Other people will and that's the problem. Don't give me shit about being an individual and not caring what other people think. We live in a society and social standing is important unless you want to live like the unabomber. All I want is human decency, nothing more or less. Perhaps simply not to be seen as "other" or "less than" due to my lack of sexual activity. I feel that is a modest request.
Jordan Myers
Piss pig grandad did shit why can't other people?
Joshua Williams
Well you didn't use it to make a point of any kind you could have removed that sentence and the entirety of your post would have coherently communicated the same point, you just said idiotic shit that betrayed your complete myopia and would like to not be called out on it, absolutele sophism. not kidding kys nerd. Also you're just fucking wrong, there are tons, literally thousands, of depression help and advocacy groups, many of them institutional, a shitton of institutional help associated with social retardation, autism/aspergers spectrum. These people are just mentally (and sometimes physically) teenagers with a persecution complex.**
People arent fucking psychic, they're judging virgins because they're socially awkward, not because of their metaphysical "virginhood". These people are socially awkward because they let that become part of their identity instead of actively trying to remove that part of their behavior. It's completely different from race because being socially awkward is something you can actively work to change. When people insist on staying that way, it's seen as a choice, which is why they're being mocked. And in cases where it isn't seen as a choice (Clinical depression, spectrum, &c.) people are very actively defending them from mockery, see above. I'm not saying it's right to judge people for this, or that it's a very active choice on the part of the robot, but you're just completely off the mark with your comparison to Tiger Woods and O.J. Simpson (Morgan Freeman has said something to the same degree).
You fucks need to take a fucking step back, you're fucking neck deep in board / robot ideology.
You have literally never listened to any of their episodes, chapo trap house are some of the most optimistic people in american left politics.
Wyatt Scott
But you got angry at Chapo for calling the alt-right virgins, but your whole point was that they're probably all virgins and nerds themselves. You don't think this these posts are hypocritical?
The only difference is when Chapo make fun of these guys it's Leftists having a laugh with other Leftists. For you right now it's defending Rightwing faggots at the expense of other Leftists. What exactly is your goal here?
Nathan Sanders
Yeah, how dare they destigmatize and popularize Socialism for normies while alienating their potential alt-right audience!!
You're a fucking retard. No one should respond to any subsequent posts made by you.
Carson Anderson
wdhmbt?
Leo Brown
okay I can overlook the other typos, shitty formatting and terrible sentence construction, but that meant to say social anxiety, although 'retardation' probably does get the point across
Gavin Walker
Stop posting forever. It's funny to make fun of incels who blame women for their virginity. That's shitty behavior and it should be stigmatized. Right wing shows completely misrepresent leftist views to try and make us look bad, but when a leftist show correctly represents the right's views you get pissed? RMMT 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
Jordan King
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Daniel Hill
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Gabriel Rivera
lol did you read my post? I was calling out the idiot who said virgins are the most vulnerable people in society.
where did i imply that
Jonathan Howard
Oh, my bad. The formatting and sentence structure was bad and I misread.
Grayson Parker
They openly acknowledge this.
Mason Cox
Maximum convenience. Also, totally different from neoliberal you go girl neoliberal articles.
Hunter Phillips
He's not wrong
Dylan Wood
Enjoyed the new Chapo with Adam, but…
Uuuugh. I didn't subscribe to this feed for this dipshit. I subscribed for Whale Vomit.
Jack Diaz
You're a liberal who thinks class is about $X and gets super offended at un-PC jokes. We get it. This pod isn't for you
Samuel Thompson
Biederman definitely has vocal fry but Menaker doesn't. Vocal fry is a specific thing that doesn't mean "feminine voice"
Gabriel King
So nobody who's this deep in the web and posts this much
Including you
Xavier Moore
Jesus Christ the CTH subreddit is one of the lamest places in the entire online
Wyatt Barnes
he said, on leftypol
Xavier Carter
lmao yes, you just know they come here hunting for that sweet "free stuff"
It's pretty much just angry soc-dem normies who like the aesthetics of socialism more than anything else.
Radio war nerd is appearently bad now because they read an excerpt from some The exile satire and took it literally lol
Ethan Campbell
I mean look at the reddit levels of this post
they come here for free shit and when their safe place is insulted they start whining
lmao just lmao my fellow redditor
Chase Rivera
newfag yes, redditor no
where have I seen this before
Logan Long
lmao, seems Im the only redditor here
enjoy your stay, rest assured that not everyone here is as retarded as I am
Kayden Lee
If you're gonna whine about reddit while you're here can you at least stop spacing your comments like a fag?
Jaxon Anderson
lmao
just
lmao
Joseph Martinez
When is it funny to make fun of a disadvantaged group you fucking reactionary? Do you make fun of fat women because society tells them they have to be thin? Why make fun of virgins because society tells them they are less than? Are you Rush Limbaugh?
Kayden Carter
Where am I defending Nazi's? I literally said kill them. Why do you have to make fun of virgins in order to stop Nazi's? Just admit you're more conservative than you think and I'll spare you from the gulag/
Justin Ward
OT off Chapo and virgins, I lost my virginity on a school trip to Auscwitz, just like Adam talked about in the video. I never really reflected that it could have anything to do with the fucked up experience of seeing an exterminatyion camp as I kicked out the girl of my hotel room right after fucking. In retrospect it makes a bit of sense, but I think it also has a shitload to do with Krakow just being a great place to party at and teenagers are horny anyway lol
btw like a day after I fucked for the firest time Thatcher died and it was great. If one follows the cosmic importance meme, it was destiny that Thatched would die as soon as I came inside of a woman, it was prophecy
all in all I can recommend travelling to extermination camps as a teenager, great stuff
Austin Flores
incels arent disadvantaged by any fucking measure, being socially awkward doesn't demand any fucking respect from anybody, nobody here is making fun of anybody who's actually physically or mentally disadvantaged, you're just suffering from the same fucking persecution complex as all the other shitposters in this thread, grow the fuck up
Adam Clark
Ok cool. Are you going to tell me to pull myself up by my bootstraps too, Ayn Rand? I haven't seen someone so triggered by an argument for basic human empathy since that Rick Santelli CNBC video. All we're arguing for is making fun of Nazi's for being fucking Nazi's and not socially awkward because people who have been abused by society would prefer not to endure that same talk from their own community. You're supposed to not put pressure on people to live up to some cookie cutter ideal. You can try and move the goal posts and say this isn't "real persecution" and say we have a complex but you're better than that right?
Dylan Mitchell
There's no goalpost moving when someone says this isn't real persecution. It's just stating a fact.
Joshua Williams
Hah this. Between this and extending any empathy to incels causing so much unbelievable butt hurt on this board. It's such a niche thing to care about to begin with it amazing me how much time and energy critics will spend disproving something they say is such a bullshit thing.
Carson Collins
Its persecution in the same way that your free to be poor.
Logan Hill
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Jack Kelly
I hope you get lynched by a sweatshop worker while they listen to Eminem
Henry Phillips
this but not Eminem because i wouldn't wish that on my greatest enemy
Colton Green
Fine, just the weird al parody then
Camden Nguyen
Whateva nigga, I've traveled to Paraguay, Uruguay, and most of Mexico. I've seen shit and blood covered Latin American sanatoriums and the poor neglected women that inhabit them.
It's you that are a fucking softie butt hurt tumblrina. You don't want any sympathy going to these guys cause you want the price of pussy to stay up. You're a fucking pro capitalism liberal through and through.
Owen Sullivan
i see shit every day when i look in the toilet before i flush give me a tumblrina medal brochacho
Liam Hughes
You like your liberal brethren couldn't give a fuck about women in so much a sense it benefits you. Eat a dick.
Ryan Bailey
lol fuck off liberal thats some serious tumblr you're throwing out there
Chase Allen
You think this is a joke. You think I made that shit huh. Yeah this encapsulates feminists perfectly. You get told women are litterally living on shit covered floors and you make a shot joke out of it. Just wowo
Hudson Myers
Your arguments are literally carbon copied screeds from whiny /r/soc posters talking about ablism with "autist" and "stupid" replaced with "virgin". Your LARP does nothing to bolster your argument. I don't live in the first world either but I don't brag about it because I'm not a massive fucking faggot like you are.
Colton Cox
only thing thats a joke is your posting kiddo.
Jordan Reyes
choose one Holla Forums
Liam Smith
Who the fuck said anything about women? Sarah go back to your podcast and stay there
Jaxon Clark
So because you live in a poor country you care about poor people, or even women. Get bent nigga, I saw hard core fucking poverty particularly among indigenous people. They get to that level because dumbass citizens don't give a fuck about them either.
I don't brag either, but you try paint everything that is empathetic to no gf and angry first world era that don't know how good they have it.
I've seen real poverty, I've had to deal with women and children dealing with so much trauma I can't believe they having killed themselves. Fuck you, I can care real problems while also recogniing the relative smaller problems capitalism causes.
And if you think there are no no bf women your a fucking sheltered pretender that's never actually talked to marginalized women outside your rich gated community
Hunter Thomas
"Da wimenz is getting hurt" is the fallback of the idpol warriors left and right
Asher Thomas
Fuck off, I've probably done more for marginalized women already then you'll ever do in your petite bourgeois life.
Luis Foster
lol look at this gated comunity motherfucker. saw povery once and fell to their knees weeping because its your white mans burden to fix that shit.
Kevin Stewart
Do you have a single fucking argument? Everything is just an appeal to emotion or anecdotal life experience with you. Why the fuck should anyone be convinced by you when the only thing you have is "you don't know like I do because you don't share my life experience! stay in your lane!"
Again, give me even a single reason why incel jokes are bad that wouldn't also apply to ableist jokes. If you admit they're the same (spoiler: they are) then you're no different than any other /r/soc fag and worthy of nothing but derision and dismissal
Oliver Diaz
as i said before appealing to protecting women is the last stand of the idpol idiot
Angel Cook
I want this guy to end up in a lyft with sarah lerner like Adam did. Would be comedy gold.
Thomas Campbell
You better god damn believe I fell to my knees
And I cried later, come on fuck face tease me about it more. Saw one elderly women with like this leathery skin because they had been giving her baths with a hose. Super abused skin like I've only seen on homeless people.
Saw orders beat patients for the slightest infractions.
I don think consider myself a feminist and I have a million time the solidarity you have.
Gavin Ross
solidarity isn't points in a video game friendo fuck off back to reddit
Brody Nelson
ITT Bourgie retard sees bad shit once and goes on iritating crusade, rest of thread laughs
Colton Foster
At first I was annoyed by you but this shit has me rock fucking hard. Please continue
Oliver Sanchez
whats the over under on this idiots crusade against whateverism being a poon cruise?
Daniel Brooks
Whatever it was you that that started it trying to paint anyone that has sympathy for any Id group you don't approve of as angry virgin woman haters and got btfod by me with some real experience seeing first hand the hardest of hard core exploitation capitalism can wrought.
I have plenty of convincing arguments for people that are arguing in good faith
Brandon White
Try the army
James Moore
anecdotes have never and will never "btfo" anybody in an argument
Chase Morgan
Never seen that before
Christian Bennett
nice meltdown kiddo. also explain to me what you think solidarity means because tone deaf tone policing isn't it.
Carter Clark
Sure, it that why I got you studdering with
Evan Russell
How many brown babies did you kill?
Cooper Rodriguez
so no real arguements then? what a shame
Isaac Peterson
I don't know, how much consumerism do you participate in. I joined the army because I was dirt fucking poor, what the fuck is your excuse
Anthony Nelson
literally none of those are things I've said ITT, and even if they were they wouldn't point to you making a good argument it would just mean the level of discourse is pretty low
Cooper Barnes
I already told you I don't live in the first world, and "buying stuff to survive" is somehow not equivalent to "killing kids to survive". If you're gonna superficially moralize I'm gonna do it right back. Maybe reflect on the basis of your arguments rather than continuing to throw a tantrum
Jeremiah Ramirez
man you are throwing out buzzwords like a champ.
Owen Ramirez
Nigga I didn't kill anyone, with my own hands. I was a combat engineer. But my work most certainly enabled the CIA spooks that were in my unit to do some heinous shit.
I was there doing humanitarian work for the army that was almost certainly ordered to act as cover for the CIA.
I was in the sanitorium for that reason. And believe me all those indigenous women suffering in there wasn't due primarily to imperialism, it was because of bigoted citizens that would persecute them even if the US wasn't there.
Chase Lewis
oh a twelve bravo? why werent y exploding shit? im assuming merican cause of Cia talk expand on this shit i wanna know more
Ryan Evans
This
Tyler Williams
Has anyone else ever gotten their dick sucked by a chick with DSLs dick sucking lips HEAVEN
Ryder Clark
Stop replying to the dipshit incel defeners, it's pointless and it's ruining this thread
Zachary Thompson
I actually subscribe to their show, they did an entire episode on the alt-right a few weeks ago which I found interesting. The interesting bit was that they acknowledged that in the future all the traditional societies and cultures in Europe will die out due to the current rate of immigration and that European traditional cultures will be confined to souvenir shops and museums and that the alt-right cannot handle living in that future but they didn't explore that point further and just went back to shitposting about alt-right virgins and how sexbots will solve the femenism/incel probel mand the alt-right. They made the point that this is a probelm with morality and that the meainstream approach towards immigration is that it pays off on an economic bassis but the left should say that it is very moral to help immigrants and refugees and that advocating for their removal should be a soical taboo. But they didn't think that the eventual destruction of traditional European cultures is in any way immoral
Austin Jones
They're kikes gleefully happy about whit.e genocide and the brown miscegenated mess they will inherit. Why do you expect? Imagine how much those kikes will make podcasting socialism lite well all of europe looks like Port au prince and Rio di genero
The kikes literally don't hide it any more
Bentley Johnson
Just like all cultures throughout history, our current cultures will absorb other cultures and be absorbed into other cultures.
This is what it means to live in a society. It's not any more immoral than the ancient Greeks or ancient Egyptians cultures disappearing. Societies evolve and change, its natural. We don't have the same cultures we had 10,000 or 1,000 or even 500 years ago. It's lucky that we have modern information technology with which to accurately record our contemporary cultures, our ancestors didn't have that.
Kek, did you forget you're on leftypol?
Look, if you want to only have sex with people from the genetic lineage of the Saxons or some shit, go ahead. But don't expect everyone else to be as autistic as you about it.
Nathan Roberts
not that level of DSL but yes.
David Lopez
Of course there's more moral weight to protecting people than cultural signifiers. But you guys are SJWs so it's no surprise
Brody Adams
War is coming. Mass migrations never come without war.
Idiot. kys and your kike paymasters.
Michael Bennett
lol fuck off sjw
Jack Jackson
How are you not an SJW again?
Gabriel Flores
You should also listen to this week's patreon episode, they talk about how your racial paranoia steems from a seclusion from society and a fear of being accountable for your muh privileged lifestyle.
Brody Ross
Why do you type like you're fucking Revolver Ocelot
Cooper Jenkins
If I wanted to listen literal kike kosher approved propaganda I'd just watch network television.
Robert Sanders
Yes, everyone who disagrees with you is getting paid to do so. The most powerful people in society pay us to support a system which would have us forcefully take all of their wealth, just because they hate white people. This is a 100% logical position to take.
Gavin Torres
Greeks and Egyptians were overpowered. They didn't have a bunch of high brow above it all faggots who welcomed the destruction of their culture as a curious innovation
Connor Robinson
Chaptotraphouse: Strictly anti-zionist, spent an an entire episode this month just shitting on Israel You: voting along with the rest of your drooling mouthbreathing friends for the most zionist candidate of all time and supporting people who wave Israeli flag
Wow yeah we're definitely the kike shills in here
Evan Jenkins
Do you have a plan to safeguard your politics for demographic shift in five hundred years? A thousand years? What plans are those, might I ask? Think about all the time that has gone past in a thousand years
Do you know how many societies melded, died, thrived, lived? What makes modern neoliberal Europe particularly special in history? You can say but muh Sistine Chapel all you want, there were once Pharohs and pyramids and ziggaruts and palaces
What makes you think that you're politics or protecting the poor woe is me white race from demographic shift that has always fucking happened? If you can't actually manage to change the tide of human history to further your political goals of isolating whites forever and it's pointless then what is the point? All you're going to do is give the future less of a point of following you
Jeremiah Walker
They actually did, it was called the Orientalizing Period and was when they made contact with both Near Eastern Cov and Egypt, exchanged goods and cultural ideas; and it eventually lead to Greece adopting idealism of form from the Egyptians. Something they reserved strictly for royalty, Greece found they could do to all and for all, representing all forms in such a manner in sculpt.
They did this in bronze.
The later Romans were so influenced by Greece, they did it in Marble.
No contact, no Holla Forums jacking off to old Roman statues Deus Vult 1488 I was Italian Roman In Former Life
First as tragedy, than as farce, than parody of Ozymandias
Ryan Stewart
FUCKING THIS
Ethan Murphy
They advocate for the non white invasion of europe but they pay some token lip service to anti zionism, wtf I love Chapo trap house now? Where can I donate half of my income so they can tell me to just spread my cheeks for the invaders while israel remains stonger than ever just snatching up the Golan heights on their premium episodes?
Wtf I love the jews now and their $100k a month in donations to spew basic milquetoast soc dem rhetoric now!
Whatsoever will we dumb goyim do without the chosenites?
Jacob Jones
Wear football helmets carrying let signs and wooden shields is definitely going to safe guard biological demographic shift until the end of time
Face it you want to save the day and live in a fucking fairy tail where material politics don't exist
Dylan Stewart
No one gives a fuck what you think, zionist shill. I was just pointing out your retarded hypocrisy and mocking you publicly.
Carter White
It hasn't already happened faggot most EU countries are still homogeneous except for shit like France and the UK and the left there isn't going to the masses gleefuly proclaiming that their culture will be destroyed in the future.
These Chapo kikes are shilling a purely American point of view where there is no culture or history except for the free market and shopping malls anyway so they are happy that the redneck and boomer population will soon be abolished because they don't fit into their bohemian beatnik hipster aesthetic and hoipe that the democrats will have a permanent majority after which they will split off and form their Bernie cuck faggot party from the mainstream democrat party and finally vote in democratic socialism
Eli Peterson
lmao you and your favorite politicians don't even do that. you just suck israeli dick to your heart's content
Hudson Diaz
You don't get my point
What makes you think your politics will be legitimate in 500 years and people won't just forget your idealistic bullshit existed and go on with it anyways
What is to stop that? Five centuries ago we couldn't travel across continents without ocean worthy vessels and still had monarchies.
If your job is to safe guard the white race just how
how
Do you plan on doing that? What makes Europe particularly special historically that it somehow bucks the fact that lifeforms migrate? What makes your politics essentially ever lasting so their will always be a white race, what makes your identity politics last so your worst nightmare about demographic shift doesn't happen
The fact is nothing you do this century will actually matter in the next five so if your point is to save the white race like it's an endangered species you follow the trail of all past ideological political struggles like this and think history ends and dies with you
It doesn't
Owen Roberts
The West always traded with everybody. I dunno what the West can possibly adopt philosophically from immigrants from the ME Africa and Central Asia outside of new ways to rape your wife. Their own countries like Saudi Arabia the UAE and Turkey won't even take Syrian refugees permanently (Turkey keeps them in camps with harsh conditions) because they know they are social refuse that will fuck up their social stability.
Leo Garcia
As far as I can tell Holla Forums new ways to rape your wife is all your politics are because it would require forced marriage and reproduction against people's will
Do you ever think to yourself, wait, maybe I'M fucked up?
Nah none of you have foresight
Ethan Bell
Syrian refugees commit statistically less crime than the native populations of the western countries they inhabit. You're thinking of north african immigrants. Of course you're too retarded to keep your own talking points straight so I have no idea why you expect anyone to give a fuck about your ideas.
Sebastian Mitchell
autist Europe China Japan etc have remained homogeneous for thousands of years
Syrian refugees are a minority of all refugees but the media conflates migrants with Syrian refugees because you can make the argument that helping Syrian refugees is a noble cause but not the rest of the economic migrants from Africa Central Asia and the ME, Syrian refugees are also heading back to the warm embraces of based Assad anyway
Owen Baker
And Europe hasn't
Anthony Reyes
Lmao Holla Forums calling someone at autist
Nathan Bennett
We get it blah blah blah people are going to cum all over the streets and you're going to slip in refugee cum and face plant and curse what the leftists did to you
nobody gives a shit go make a thread
Lucas Lewis
Europe has a great history on being ethnically homogeneous. Well, successful Europe, mind you. Greece, Rome, not the Gauls.
Hudson Gray
Their point is shit changes, that's just how the world works, get over it. Be an individual.
Jeremiah Howard
Note that the Yugoposter will come in this thread every couple of days and make 20 different posts about how Chapo are Liberal Champagne Socialists for making fun of aut-right retardation, and yet, here, with a literal Nazi spewing unadulterated faggotry and nonsense he's completely absent. Really makes you think :^)
Kayden Perez
You fucking dipshit, they acknowledged that demographics are changing, but the reason why they moved on quickly wasn't because they didn't care. They fundamentally believe that culture is downstream from politics, which is why politics is what they're primarily concerned with. Capitalism is the reason why these demographics and cultures are changing; without capitalism there would be no incentive to wage wars that cause mass migrations and birth rates wouldn't be tied to economic status.
Isaac Russell
really exercises the ol' brainstem
Jack Nguyen
Can someone remake this thread this got overrun by inlcel and white nationalists
Chase Cox
Your point is well taken, fine I'll start! For the record I do argue with Nazis in other threads.
Xavier Carter
Just because I don't like your boyfriends doesn't make me an alt righter and arguing with Nazis is such a huge chore, I don't even know what they're on about half the time
Juan Rogers
i fucking love how the nerds getting mad that we're making fun of people is the one calling us "butthurt tumblrinas" ugh, you actually have no fucking self-awareness
i also love how you need to make everybody here into 'chads' to be able to maintain this fucking mental image of a virgin hating brocialist, have you taken a single look at the url you typed in to get here?
you just cannot ignore even the shittiest stupidest bait to get you emotionally involved
sorry but yugo dude is one of the best lolcows to come around for months, better than nogf nazi tbh
nazis are actually the dumbest most illterate people around, i mean it's no surprise if you've ever actually met a nazi in real life, they're just really fucking stupid, easily among the stupidest people you'll ever meet in your life, but you just continually forget this when you talk about them in abstract terms i dont even know where to fucking start with this post, there's just so much wrong with every fucking sentence here
lol he wasnt calling you an "alt righter" ugh although i dont blame you for not replying to nazis, it's so boring
Thomas Hernandez
Tumblr would never use the word reactionary
Adrian Smith
You are a fucking piece of shit
Isaac Campbell
Is this a joke? Of course they would
Easton Brooks
i see that you've enver been on the the trash fire that is commie tumblr.
Cooper Fisher
Jesus christ you want to be cool so bad. The alpha/beta, chad /loser dynamic is a fucking Internet construct. It doesn't exist. Yet, here you are unironically calling people nerds like you're a cool kid on a shitty episode of saved by the bell. I get it bro. You are the cool guy who who practically drowns in pussy. I can see your heavy handed internet persona. But you don't even know what you're talking about. Why would virgins or whatever call you a "butthurt Tumblrina"? You're the one making fun of people. Tumblrina is used to refer to someone who a reactionary deems as overly empathetic or progressive. I called you butthurt and you started making up a strawman.
Evan King
wtf are you talking about no i'm making fun of nerds who on one hand love taking social anxiety as a part of their identity but also have a huge fucking complex about it, i literally spend most of my free time being an active part in a speedrunning community and reading leftist academic theory i'd have to be actually deluded to see myself as this popular dude who fucks and isn't a nerd it's possible to not be a cool dude and at the same time not be a fucking nerd with a persecution complex, it's called being a normal well-adjusted person i wasn't the one who started calling people tumblrinas lol, i pretty obviously meant to respond to yugoposter calling us tumblrinas and not to you you're the one who looks at this using that dynamic, i literally just said that yugo dude is a funny nerd with no self-awareness and you immediately analysed my self-perception to be this one of a internet cool guy fucking check yourself
All countries allied with the 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧west🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧 for decades now But yes socialism is the big problemo
Dylan Baker
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Jackson Diaz
You are a lair and a hypocrite. You are a hypocrite because its always open season on "liberals" which is just anyone that isn't a dogged class reductionist like you and all the other irony bros. Except when it come support to liberal feminists, since criticism of them might undermine your ability to poop on your per whipping boys it no gfs.
You took what I was saying out of context. Landed white women are coopting the struggles of all women to selfishly grab muh privileges and competitive advantages for selfs. Yes they are commodifying their sexuality, something women have been doing since before Christ.
Which is why feminists can wail on and on about sexism in videogames and MM will eat it up but issues like untested rape kits I litterally had to learn about from a journalism org call project censored.
If you think only MRA PUA No kiss virgins think this then just amnesty international would like a word from you since their campaign to legalize sex work and other women's issues has been flustered primarily but 3rd wave feminists and their propaganda.
And why do feminists by and large are against legalizing sex work, even though women not men WOMEN sex workers are having their minds, bodies and families torn apart by the state and gangs because of its prohibition.
Becasue they want the price of pussy to stay up
They litterally have zero solidarity with poor women. This is just one issue of many
Justin Turner
* pet whipping boys i.e. No GF.
Cameron Hill
People like you who bitch about ironybros are so fucking stupid and the term is so fucking stupid that ironybro has become a term of endearment
Aaron Young
Just kill yourself already. Your politics are shit.
Jaxon Hernandez
holy shit your posts are annoying to read with that double spacing also why does this have to be about my political understanding, this is a more baseline view: people who do stupid shit are not above ridicule, it doesn't fucking matter if there is a material background for them doing said stupid shit i'm just not gonna bother with any of the bullshit in your post since none of it has anything to do with me, i'm not going to spend time defending a viewpoint i dont hold, you just completely imagined a person to shout words at
Angel Reed
I really think Chapo fucked up by changing the format after the elections.
I was listening to some old episodes, andthey're just as good to me now as they were when I first listened to them. And I think that's because the dynamic is completely different. It's just three guys ranting about different topics and mocking conservative habits and culture they know from browsing their spaces for years. Guests came in much later in the show, and felt more like assistance than the focus of the episode too.
Now it's basically a group conversation with Matt, Felix, Brendan, Virgil, Amber and Will and the guest concerning a topic that defines the whole show. It's a completely different podcast, and it doesn't feel as unique.
Also call me an incel or whatever, but chicks always change the vibe of these shows so that's another reason I'd like to see the original trio back.
I'm so fucking happy. And in the last episode Will was very openly calling himself a Marxist. I feel like they really are leaning further and further to the Left, it's so fucking great.
Cameron Brooks
The politics on this episode were way better than usual, but the comedy was way worse tbh. The advice column bit was painfully unfunny.
William Rogers
Have you guys heard Matt's rant where he says he'd form a Cheka like Lenin did because he considers people like Ross Douthat enemies of humanity?
Different strokes I guess, I thought it was pretty funny. Of course naturally any episode sans Felix will usually come up short in that department.
Xavier Gray
Upload their premium content. They should have a donation based system.
Jason Anderson
they do. you donate 5 dollars a month and you get to listen to all of it
Angel Peterson
amber's best episode tbh
Matthew Garcia
They're just stating the views they've had for years but didn't say directly because there was no reason to. Contrary to popular belief, socialists do not need to preface every sentence with the particular school, party, movement or thinker they're influenced by.
Cameron Wright
Why? Because you say so? They should have whatever system they want and will keep them doing podcasts for a long period.
Lucas Turner
okay retard
Jeremiah Morris
Great comeback you fucking cunt. Commit more to your character.
Thomas Hall
not the guy you were replying to I just think you're an idiot
James Brooks
bump
Hunter Reed
new premium episode when?
Cooper Price
probably gonna dump some premium episode mediafire links soon if you fags are interested
i hate paying for a podcast from a bunch of socdems who just use the money to get drunk and buy better apartments but it's comfy enough for me and i don't want you fags to support them so stay tuned. maybe post if you want any particular eps
what did brendan say that mae him leftcom? completely forgot. maybe i need to relisten
Joshua Cooper
oh fuck i'm retarded. Well there goes that patreon subscription. lol.
Dominic Perez
thoughts on the latest episode? thought it was really funny but the discussion on cultural capital i felt could have been more insightful
Dominic Harris
American Party of Labor/Hoxha, Stalin, Lenin, Marx, Engels
Fuck you.
Alexander Rogers
Don't shout crypto-autistic shit at me fam
William Martin
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Jonathan Wilson
Apparently Chapo is doing another Call of Cthulhu episode
Lincoln Kelly
I love Amber to death but I seriously don't understand what the hell is with her look. Like she's got a bad haircut but I've lived in lower Appalachia the majority of my life and I've never seen anybody "native" to that environment that looks like her, and she's supposedly hillbilly stock.
Still love her tho.
Eli Powell
Joke's on you, I'm a poor fuck southerner married to a school teacher. Touching a boob isn't hard as long as you're willing to handle some basic shit like hygiene and showing some level of confidence. Exception is if you have some legitimate mental illness that impedes you, of course, but I've never read the Chapo mockery as making fun of people with actual problems. Just the pathetic anime-right fucks who are too "POINTY KNEES, WOULDN'T BANG" to not act like brain damaged trainwrecks around other people.
Logan Evans
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Ian Ross
Amber seriously looks like an albino aboriginal or black person with a wig and she seems to cultivate that look
She’s still out of my league, naturally
Adam Russell
amber's cute fuck all of you
Eli Wood
I'm rock fucking hard
Jose Jackson
Capitalist alienation manifests itself in many forms. I'm a leftist but I'm probably one of the better paid proles on this board, I pull down 75k.
But I don't go around going "lol why you didn't STEM" at anons from burger land that complain they are broke.
Julian Russell
Women aren't property you cunt.
Jack Myers
I said they were when?
Jace Morales
When Marx wrote that women couldn't sell their labor at parity to men like they can now. Women are every bit seeking men out that can act as tools of production in the way only men did in the 1800s
Robert Jenkins
The insinuation is all up and down this thread as you repeatedly make the fallacious claim that advice for how to improve material relations is comparable or analogous to advice to "get women".
Nolan Foster
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Austin Robinson
No, I just recognize things have changed. Feminists have successfully created a class of pettie bourgeois women that are using marginalized men as a boogieman.
These guys can't get women and you and everyone else comes out of the woodwork to make sure they blame themselves and not look at capitalism or women's role in it.
Andrew Harris
Women have not changed to become comparable to private property, and the advice for interacting with them has not become more similar to the advice dealing with private property. Worry to rain on your parade.
Hunter Myers
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Sebastian Martinez
Women are the one that are treating men like private property now in increasing numbers. Men that's can't sell their labor at a rate higher than what a women can are by in large rejected.
But I'm sure you think if you keep insisting that I think women are private property it will become true.
Andrew Martin
chapo is gay and a limited hangout, big kahina is a crazy deranged person but shes on to something
shes a fingoloid, I bet she can throat sing, also her blogposts are fucking dumb, read the one about not paying your student loans if you want to cringe hard, shes qualified to talk about swamp ass thats about it
fucking pussy, she ran from twitter after a few friendly dickpics from the cumboy crowd, pathetic, rosa would roll her eyes
Noah Morgan
kek
Kevin Young
Pls go and stay go
Eli Wood
👏STOP👏REPLYING👏TO👏INCEL👏POSTERS👏 It's ruining this thread and it's not productive. You'll never convince them that they're wrong. Yugoposter is especially retarded and so are you if you reply to them.
Adrian Stewart
The "bend the knee" stuff is all the irony left guys are being really aggressive about in the last week is not good. Just my 2c. But there's something wrong when I agree with them on almost everything and have regularly listened to them but am still being pissed off by them acting like superior dickheads.
Cooper Jones
This used to be a chill laid back thread where anons talked about Chapo and shared lefty podcasts with one another. Now every couple of days it gets hijacked by a troll who thinks making fun of Nazis makes you a Liberal. What's their engoal here? Nobody cares. But if you reply to bait this obvious I suggest you stop posting on this board all together from now on. Please, for the love of christ, if someone comes in the thread to spam about "virgin's rights" just take a deep breath and let it go. So of us just want a place to share and talk about the latest War Nerd, Chapo, and Zero Squared eps.
Camden Gray
I highly doubt it would've ballooned out as hard as it did if the mainstream Dems and Libs hadn't shit their pants and immediately started pointing at it as an example of the "scary Berniebros/Leftists".
I think the Chapo-gang and the irony and DSA crowd around them just doubled down because the mainstream clutched their pearls so hard.
Justin Reed
Why is it not good? Leftists shouldn't always be expected to defer to the "common sense" positions of Liberals. In the US the Left is considered a joke, and Liberals, whether it's the media or politicians, always speak to Leftists in a condescending and paternalistic fashion. But we're in a moment where "conventional wisdom" of Liberals has been shattered, and any confidence that most Americans had in them is shook, and a lot of people do seem like they're ready for something a little further to the Left, and that scares the shit out of a lot of Liberals, so if anything is going to be a political roadblock in this country, it's not the Right, it's these fucking Liberals who'll do everything in their power to stop the overtone window from shifting Leftward, all the while allowing it to drift even further to the Right.
Elijah White
Honestly, I don't see how fucking with Liberals isn't a really good thing.
Colton Young
I didn't really make a judgment one way or another. Like I absolutely agree with Will's line about the ideas of the Liberal establishment being completely burned to the ground in the face of a giant orange man-baby rapist. I'm also kind of entryist though, so though I do jive with the ironybro stuff, in regards to an actual discussion I try to not put Libs immediately on the defensive because I feel like I can push further or spread more influence if they don't immediately see me as a threat. Mainly just because I don't think we have the numbers or organization/logistics right now to go full force without nudging more of them our way or at least getting more of a substantive war chest to fight back when they run corporate candidates against more left-progressive candidates or candidates with true Left sensibilities.
Colton Butler
These smug succdem reformist types will eventually get BTFO by reality just as hard as the libs did in 2016. Just you wait.
Carter Rogers
Kahina pls go
Jacob Myers
Why should any Leftist care about Liberals trying to police our tone? If the Trump campaign taught us anything it's that most of the working class hate these petite bourgeois Liberal elites, and watching them get mocked and shamed is pretty satisfying. Telling them to fuck themselves, and pointing out that they need to move towards the Left, and that the Left doesn't need to move towards the center, that's the kind of shit that's actually going to make the Left more popular in the long run. The past couple decades the Left has been more then happy to exist on the fringes and step aside whenever the Democrats told them to, or to just get swallowed up into various NGO's. The DSA is the first organization the Left has had in a long time that actually has the potential of gaining mass support.
Why is Chapo not Leftist. What is your actual critique of Chapo, or the DSA?
Noah Anderson
I barely even know who that is. Twitter cancer has rotted your brain.
Gabriel Johnson
I just want to make use of their logistical networks, mostly. Even with the explosion in the DSA and the positive signs of real growth in leftist camps, the Dems for all their bungling still have an incredibly large and powerful logistical network of political real estate.That and I still have friends who haven't shifted from mainstream Lib stuff yet and I want to maintain goodwill to attempt to convert as many people as I can.
Ian Bennett
Nice try Kahina, we know who you are :^)
Brayden Bailey
:^)
Jacob Hill
Fair enough. But I don't think being confrontational is always a bad thing. And if anyone would be put off because of the tone of Will's points, as opposed to the content, then I'm not sure if they could have ever been converted in the first place. But when it comes to things like this I usually don't think any individual person or piece of media can change someone's mind all that drastically. Times are changing, and if someone wants to cling to the Democratic Party that's fucked us for the past couple of decades, then they're delusional, and I think it's just a matter of time before more and more people start jumping ship.
Asher Jones
I don't have a twitter account.
Logan Garcia
Your cover's blown Kahina, go back to twitter.
Christopher Hall
You need to go back >>>[email protected]/* *//
Jason Turner
You are being very irrational right now. I will state for the last time that I am not this Kahina persons you're obsessed with.
Joshua Fisher
No u
Prove it fagit.
Mason Mitchell
You've been undone, bourgeois babby. Away!
Christian Rodriguez
This gave me a hardy kek, we all know it's you fam.
Wyatt Foster
I'm not going to compromise my identity just to prove you wrong 'fagit'. Nice phishing scam you're running.
Aaron Williams
No. You can only prove your innocence with a timestamped photo of your dick. Otherwise, Kahina confirmed. Period. End of discussion.
Hudson Murphy
me too bruh some of their best episodes all around
Ayden Rodriguez
Matt was just on Age of Napoleon talking about the 18th of Brumaire its fucking good
jesus christ someone give this guy a podium and a press conference
Nicholas Phillips
virgil best boy
Ayden Gomez
That thread was brigaded by /r/socialism. Very clear from the responses.
Joseph Clark
/r/chapotraphouse was the only non-cancerous left-wing board on Plebbit for a while, but it looks like the cancer's taking hold there too.
Isaac Long
Our anti-idpol brocialists heroes,everyone.
Alexander Diaz
truly activates the almonds
Daniel Campbell
some people think being anti idpol means you get to be a racist/misogynist shithead and skate free
Joseph Bailey
No, but going full mea culpa and giving money to repent from your verbal sins doesn't seems very anti-idpol for me.
"Sorry i was drunk, won't do it again" should be sufficient.
Kevin Parker
Did he though? Nick Mullen mocked a rape victim to her face on a public platform, and that's pretty shitty, but Felix was just dunking on an #ally.
I'm not mad he apologized. Some leftist rape victims seem genuinely upset by this, and class unity's important, but the heart of the controversy is little more than a breech of liberal etiquette.
Parker Richardson
it's not sufficient and i'm glad he's donating money to a good cause.
Hunter Murphy
I feel like I'm missing some kind of context here/ Who is Melissa McEwan and how are Nick or Felix's comments related to sexual assault? Thant said, if they are I think it's nice of Felix to apologize, and especially nice to donate to a good cause, but I feel like I'm missing some vital context here.
Kayden Cook
Melissa is a standard lib with shitty takes, the card she's holding is a "rape card". As in she's playing the "i've been raped" card.
Kayden Gonzalez
Maybe it's inappropriate to even ask this. But has she actually ever experienced sexual assault? Is this something she talks about often? Maybe I'm giving Nick too much benefit of the doubt, obviously he wouldn't be above just outright cutting ass on a rape victim, but is she one of these people who make their sexual assault apart of their "personal brand"?
Jaxson Hernandez
Shes gone public with it to win a twitter argument. Do you really have to ask?
Bentley Reed
She's talking about it semi frequently and it probably happened. It's kind of a shitty joke I guess but the end of the world shit is retarded and makes it way overblown, as if random snarky passerbys become party to the original crime by virtue of not being supportive
Anthony Johnson
I feel like rape is such a serious issue, I don't understand why more people aren't disgusted when someone wears it as a badge of honor or very transparently uses it to propel their career. It seems just as disgusting to me as rape apologia, and I see it almost just as often.
Yeah, it reminds me of that thing that happened a few months ago with Hbomber. His friend had been sexually assaulted as a child, and then he felt uncomfortable because a mutual friend was hitting on him too aggressively and being kind of creepy. Now obviously that's not cool, but as bad as that is it's not rape, but not only did people on twitter essentially talk about it like it was a sexual assault, they also damned Hbomber by association. And the discourse around it got insanely muddled, everything ended up getting conflated with rape. That said, as bad as this woman is, and a quick google search brought up some awful results, she certainly doesn't deserve to be made fun of for being raped, but I also don't really see why this is the most serious thing in the world. I think Felix's apology is more then enough here. I'm proud of our little Dry Boy on this day.
Jaxson Smith
Fight back.
They got big by ignoring call out bullshit, but now these kinds of embarrassments could cost them a lot in patreon bux.
The people condemning them were never supporters. They need to take a gamble on the people who put them where they were, on bet on the people who were never there and never will be.
Michael Brown
Look in that thread. People are demanding answers on Tabbi, saying the apology is not good enough and threatening to cancel subs and posting and claiming to search for more problem-atic tweets.
The problem is by acknowledging it they are only giving fuel to the fire. If the people were upset were so in goodfaith you would be right, but they are only on a witchhunt.
Daniel Williams
I don't disagree. Your post cuts to the heart of what's wrong with idpol, and perticularly "callouts" in general. If you admit any fault it's just blood in the water, because to most of these people these aren't political arguments, they're moral arguments, and being wrong means you're tainted, and then the only answer is public shaming followed by excommunication. All that matters to most of these people is the brief rush they feel from judging someone else and then feeling superior for a second. That said, Felix has earned my respect for how well he's handling it. As for the Tabbi and Ames thing, I've always just assumed that book was a cringy attempt to mimic Hunter S Thompson's style. I mean, is any of that shit even feasible?
Hudson Lopez
No need to fight back. When the hosts do something "unforgivable" to the /r/socialism trolls, what the fuck are they gonna do about it? It's always going to be a sub dedicated to the podcast so it's a problem that fixes itself given time.
Charles Brooks
Just makes me want to gulag them harder tbqh
Nathaniel Barnes
Just checking on twitter CTH seems to be drawing a lot more criticism than I've noticed before, has something happened?
John Gray
More like this (please)
Her lips probably feel like two soft, boated leeches and I NEED to imagine what they'd feel like slobbering my dingus
Logan Fisher
Excuse me but can we talk about woman haters and rape apologists on this sub? SIGNAL BOOST THIS PLEASE
Matthew Brown
Yeah they said centrist libs need to "bend the knee" to the left and liberal pundits took that to mean "women and brown people need to bend the knee to the chapo hosts" because they're either retarded, habitual liars or (most likely) both.
Xavier Mitchell
the bend the knee comments were a month ago, i think on the corbyn episode? are they still bootyblasted about that?
Jordan Taylor
Felix is the best Chapo, prove me wrong.
Camden Ortiz
The neera tandens just found it this week and skeet heer wrote a shitty thinkpiece about how it signals an egregious disrespect to mainstream political discourse
Cameron Hall
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Robert Sanchez
I love that most of these twitter Liberals are predominantly white, and yet they think self-identifying as "woke af" means they're honorary POCs, or that anytime someone disagrees with them it makes them automatically racist by the logic of Standpoint Theory. Also, have any anons ever noticed that Liberals somehow manage to be even more intellectually dishonest then most reactionaries? It's like they don't even know when they're arguing in bad faith, because it's the only kind of argumentation they know.
Leo Baker
Apparently not being offended by this must mean I'm "privileged"
Ethan Martin
Why are leftists in a state of perpetual cuckdom?
It's really all quite pathetic.
Connor Thomas
I think you mean liberals
Nolan Moore
Seems about right for the typical idpol post tbh.
Hudson Perry
There you go, ftfy
Nathaniel Hughes
It was just a GoT reference FFS, who gets offended at stuff like this with all the real shit going on. If I go on public transport with a bag I get looked at like I'm a terrorist so I'm hardly "privileged".
Ethan Morris
And you believe she is actually triggered?
It's power talk. It means "stop doing this this instant or you gonna lose social status".
Now let see if they gonna cuck out of that too. Please not be that stupid.
Cooper Stewart
They already told all the libs complaining about it to fuck off. This is basically just the Sarah Lerner shit 2.0 so why would they treat it any differently?
Adrian James
Jeet and Felix has been trading barbs all day.
Jose Mitchell
Tbh the biggest thing wrong with post-election Chapo is that they kinda got caught up in the hysteria and they haven't entirely come down from it yet. They've kind of convinced themselves that their old formula of making fun of liberals and right-wingers doesn't work in a Trump led country, which isn't true imo. They're still fundamentally the same show, but they've added concrete goals and advice into the mix which gives them makes them much more of a target now than they used to be. It can also be an outlet for the hosts to moralize counterproductively if they're not careful. They seem to be figuring this out tho.
BTW this post is critical of Chapo, but I think the show is good. It's funny and it's a great way to recruit new people into leftism and get out of this shitty idpol run we've been in. Yugoposter can suck a fat one, don't reply to this shit bitch.
Nolan Evans
Should we brigade it back and focus on going against identity politics? I mean I really hate Reddit's format but I can shitpost there if you guys agree to help.
Eli Parker
funny considering how much they pearlclutched during catgirl spring
Wyatt Robinson
*pearl clutched about brigading
Jaxson Cook
Neera Tanden is the President of the Center for American Progress, a "progressive" public policy research and advocacy organization that funnels millions into hillary style centrist campaigns and spends tons of money to combat even milquetoast socdem programs like single payer as "unrealistic"
(pa)Jeet Heer is the senior editor at the New Republic and nominally sympathetic to more progressive politics (prefers Bernie to Hillary) but constantly defers to neolibs and neocons and demands "civil discourse" like a retard
Nicholas Thomas
It's almost amazing how easily they bend to these people. Re-listening to Chapo's early episodes is already weird because of how different the tone was.
I didn't think they would listen to those medium articles made by Twitter leftists with 500 followers telling them to be less toxic and less excellent, but apparently they did.
Aiden Nguyen
Damn Felix sucks at this
Noah Cruz
He was always the weakest link tbh
John Mitchell
*that's what you get when you don't read theory
Jordan Flores
He's the dumbest but also the funniest
Jayden Adams
Cumtown and Chapo should trade Adam for Felix for a while. Felix is funnier on cumtown and Adam is funnier on Chapo
Luis Cook
Yeah, them bitches won't shut the fuck up.
Caleb Diaz
When will Muke go on Chapo?
Jason Sanders
Jeet is insufferable and deserves all the abuse he gets.
Joshua Richardson
Jeet is the Freddie DeBoer of liberalism.
Matthew Wilson
Theoretically possible, but no one would admit to it in a published book. The reaction of the sub kind of pissed me off- Taibbi was only mentioned in passing, Ames has repeatedly said that the book was satire, and there isn't even a single accuser, but now as far as anyone on r/chapo is concerned, both are confirmed rapists.
Joseph Perez
pls no.
Josiah Martin
All politics is like this. If Macron came out tomorrow and said that the working class needs to seize the means of production, people here would still hate him because of all the other shit he's done. People remember the bad a lot more than the good.
Aaron Robinson
what does this even mean?
Luke Garcia
Remember when Glenn Greenwald was upset when Stephen Colbert said Donald Trump sucked Putin's dick?
Ethan Thompson
Idk, if Macron suddenly turned into Mélenchon overnight he'd be immediately ousted by his party. And Leftists would probably think he was an idiot. A proletarian revolution isn't just something that can be mandated from above by your president. But I'd say the key issue with Liberal idpol, through and through, is that it creates a paranoid and toxic environment of constant witch hunting, I don't know when the last time you tried to navigate a Leftist space was, but there's very little invocation of Standpoint Theory in the name of political discussion, but rather it's constantly invoked as a bludgeon to beat other Leftists with, or a tool to gain social capital with. The only time Communists ever acted this way was the Cultural Revolution, when Communists specifically decided to take a Cultural turn in their analysis of class, class as an identity, and it was the legacy of the Cultural Revolution that influenced the popularity of identity politics in the New Left, I'm not saying it's the sole influence, but it was a big part of it, along with Fanon's writings and a few other things.
Bentley Foster
That would be terrible lel. Hey, didn't they say they were gonna have Hbomber on awhile back? Whatever happened to that?
any menakerheads here? seems like people like him the least because he often has to play the straight man, but he can be quite funny 2bh
Ryder Cox
I like all of them, but Felix is the funniest and Matt (and Amber) has the most insightful things to say, so I get why people like Will "the least". But I still think the show wouldn't be nearly as good if you removed either one of the original dry boys.
I was surprised when I saw that he's most people's least favorite. Some of the shit he's said has been the funniest on the show IMO. I also don't understand why Matt and Amber have the reputation for knowing the most theory but maybe I haven't heard enough of the show.
Angel Bell
PissPig is on Hell of a Way to die premium episode anyone got blackwolf feed for it?
Nolan Fisher
i come here to beg for the radio war nerd stream link and last post is another post begging for pirate links
anybody willing to help the poorfags out?
Colton Peterson
war nerd pirate feed. i don't have the hoawtd one
Jordan Rogers
pisspig seems like a pretty genuine guy. after his vacation in rojava he's very involved in local politics rather than becoming a media star.
Connor Gonzalez
that was pretty good, I love how ricky comes at things from a different angle
Parker Lewis
what's his pod? might give it a listen too
Charles Johnson
idk tbh i've just heard him twice on chapo and liked him both times. i'm sure you could find it pretty easily. btw can someone with twitter see if they can get prof mark blyth to go on chapo. his politics and economics line up perfectly.
lol he couldn't even get through the first paragraph without lying outright
Grayson Watson
All you need to know about this piece is that it starts, ends, and interjects with the idea that earnest Hillary supporters and Jon Oliver fans are better than Chapo because they're more honest.
Cameron Cox
love these "I listened to one episode with a closed mind and I can assure you that it sucks" type articles
Jaxon Anderson
Ruh-Roh the tide is a turning on Chapo's bullshit.
Ryan Flores
I'm so sick of the argument that chapo is bad because it apes the alt right. If the left can win over people who would've become 4chan nationalists thats a fucking good thing
Thomas Rogers
And in what way does it ape the alt right? Being funny? Not being polite to your enemies?
Tyler Jenkins
Is this a psyop?
Jayden Sullivan
People say their use of 'volcel' and 'incel' is evidence of it but weird/left Twitter was using those words long before the alt-right picked them up.
Dylan Murphy
It's perfectly ok to dislike or even hate chapo, but the author of this is just a libfem retard with a red mask like most other online "tankies"
Brody Jackson
Which is ironic because most arguments against Chapo on this board are that they're too mean, and that the show will offend the alt-right, and that that's a bad thing. That and buttmad incels who think making jokes about incels make you a Liberal, or something equally incoherent.
Adrian Cook
Yes, I'm sure an obscure ultraleft ML blog marks the end of Chapo's popularity, now, at the height of their popularity and Patreon support. The real question is, what does it say about these idpol tankies when all their opinions on Chapo are identical to what NeoLiberal Hillary supporters say about Chapo?
Carter Cooper
kek
Isaiah Richardson
Reminder that the anti-"ironycel" folks are shilling here to try to change the public consensus about Chapo. If someone's being an edgy contrarian pls ignore them.
Ian Brown
to be honest, the episode this tankie listened to wasn't one of their stronger ones. the points about how they focus on stupid right-wing pundits is somewhat true; it's pretty much an old bit for most libs and i wish chapo would do less of it (unless they're dunking on the more weirdo reactionaries).
also, the line of reasoning that "x works with someone connected to the political establishment so therefore x must be a fed" is so fucking stupid. anyone involved in some sort of media job about politics will in some way interact with the establishment.
Cameron Sanders
Yeah I mean the parts talking about how their critique isn't always biting is true of course, but the rest of the article is eye roll inducing. Hard not to laugh when you get to the part where the author reads a sarcastic joke from matt as completely serious and then proceeds to lecture them with "um actually disdain for the poor and support for imperialist war are consistent positions if you actually read Marx" as if that wasn't the point of the joke. What a dumbass.
Gavin Ward
It's funny going on Twitter seeing a bunch of democrat women in their 50s and 60s RTing shitty hackjob articles on Chapo. It's almost like they've been told to do it by Dem HQ.
Jace Watson
Anyone wanna take bets on what weird show/interview appearance they end up being invited to because of all this new attention?
Adam Nguyen
i want them to show up uninvited to sam bee's dumpster fire of a show
Blake Carter
I remember she was trolling that big socialist convention earlier this month and ended up interviewing people trying to get her bullshit edited clips for her show. Did that ever get released? I'm gonna guess no since it probably would've been plastered all over twitter by now but I'm still curious.
Isaiah Anderson
WEW LAD
Kevin Campbell
Reminder that tumblr/twitter tankies are the liberal socdems they claim to hate. All they want is a welfare state and social justice, but only in the third world.
Hudson Martinez
also shitty dictators are cool if they aren't european/north americanm
Charles Diaz
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Nolan Fisher
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Zachary Gutierrez
No it's not. FUCK YOU
Liam Rogers
fuck off neera
Jason Ross
"We created these memes that are so indistinguishable from alt-right content" is not a great position either, though.
The affected post-SA ironybro speaking style is honestly obnoxious to a lot of people, as is post-channer nihilism and sociopathy.
Leo Bennett
You, very smart: Yes, it's good praxis to make fun of virgins. This will help the left .
Elijah Harris
have you learned nothing?
Nathaniel Hughes
It's funny that the main thing you get out of Chapo Trap House is generally not being nice. Not being nice with no direction is nihilism and nihilism is reactionary. Are virgins the ones opressing you? Do virgins own the means of production? Some do maybe but they are not the group the left is after. You're trying to make stepping on already stepped on groups revolutionary when it's already commonplace and boring. Attack people for being elite bourgious and promoting austerity not other sit that doesn't matter and changes nothing. Is an anime nazi actually a part of the vangaurd when he's not being nice and calls Obama a nigger? No, because he's talking about shit that's off topic and has no affect on peoples lives. You can make fun of Zuckerberg or someone for being a nerd all you want but people with common sense will shit on him for actually being bad. This is not high school. Get creative with your punch lines.
Andrew Cooper
Honestly you're a retard if you think the punchline to their jokes about incels is "lol they're a virgin"; they're not making fun of socially atomized people, they're making fun of people who respond to their atomization with anti-social behavior and incoherent political positions. But they rarely even bring up virgins on the show so your point here is moot regardless.
To everyone else here: stop replying to these incel posters, you'll never convince them and it shits up this thread. This is the last (you) I'll be giving him.
Robert Cruz
Then make fun of them for that shit and not everything else. It's that simple. If a person believes in Clintonism then "haha you believe in those neoliberal frauds you dumbass" not "haha I bet they don't even fuck dumb virgin". Also, let's not pretend a large segment of Chapo's fanbase don't have social/mental problems. They're essentially attacking their base which is stupid in another way.
Benjamin Butler
hahahahahaha GOT IS ALT‐RIGHT
CHAPO IS NAZBOL
Ryan Howard
Goddamn it, I didn't want to respond but then you chose to go and be a dipshit. Here's that (you) I said I wasn't going to give you. Congrats. They don't make fun of them for beiung virgins, they make fun of them for their anti-social behavior, and like I said in my previous post they don't often bring up virgins so your entire point here is moot. Just let it go already, jfc. Uh, I can't really think of a time they made fun of someone for being mentally ill, do you have an example you could give me of this happening? It seems like you're really grasping here tbh. And while you're at it, could you give an example from the show where they shit on virgins for being virgins? Because that claim is pretty sus too tbh.
Zachary Collins
How are you this fucking lazy? Felix says the word retarded on every other show. I know you're probably going to say "retarded doesn't mean mentally ill he's using it in a different way" but whatever he's saying that people who have bad politics are like people who have mental conditions.
Oh wait, let me go through the entire podcast and transcribe it for you. Jesus christ. Lucky for you off the top of my head here's one: When they were doing a reading from Ben Shapiro's shit book True Allegiance they made all kinds of references to how Ben Shapiro is basically a beta male. They made valid critisisms and I liked the segment overall because the book seems hilariously racist and shitty but my point stands. You're one step away from just saying "why are you bringing up old stuff, huh?". The fact something shit happens occasionally is not a reason to just ignore it.
Justin Parker
Fuck off
Caleb Morgan
Why?
Thomas Thomas
Kill yourself you fucking cunt that reddit spacing is atrocious. It's probably the most painful to read thing of every faggot I've seen on this board. Kys yourself.
Nicholas Perez
This place isn't for you. If you want to police language you'll have a better time back in the reddit "socialist" subs. I mean they've abandoned all pretense of leftist analysis, but at least /r/socialism will keep you safe from people saying the word "retarded".
Gavin Murphy
So what are you saying here? Saying retarded is good? All can tell from what you're writing is that analyzing the meaning of words is stupid. Stop making ignorance a virtue.
You sound like a cat that's easily distracted by pointless shit. Who gives a fuck about spacing?
Hunter Davis
Please stop with the ignorance. St-pid is an ableist slur with explicit roots in mocking the mentally challenged, and it is incredibly disrespectful of you to use it so freely when and disregard the feelings of your neuro-atypical comrades. Please self-crit or leave.
Ayden James
Kill Your Self yourself?
Jace Martinez
Do you have autism? It's not a superpower.
Christopher Hall
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Julian White
log off bro
Adam Campbell
i cringed
Joshua Hernandez
No, they don't waste time trying to get on the alt-right's good side, which is what Liberals are going to start doing in a year or so. They already are as it is, but if it gets more mainstream through the alt-lite then Liberals will do everything in their power to accommodate them.
Chapo doesn't make fun of virgins, they mock reactionaries, liberals, and the alt-right. I'm sorry user, but your emotions are clouding your judgement, but don't worry, you're among friends here. If you're angry at Chapo then your anger is misguided.
Dominic Turner
i'd say you are an asstarded fuckboi so take that as you will. how you sexually identify that is your problem and lot in life. I hope that helps
Asher Phillips
in the new episode
why???
Daniel Moore
Felix's White spoken Jazz song about Jared fucking killed me
But does being not nice on purpose, as a shtick, going to build a left movement?
Andrew Murphy
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William Gonzalez
Chapo doesn't give a fuck about leftism. They fellate the DSA every chance they get.
Daniel White
Your country is a fucking joke and ruining the whole planet so take what you can get.
Ian Jones
I bet you're a fan of the ACA right? A watered down people said "it's the best we can do" but it wound up being shit. Half measures invite fascism.
Luis Bell
You keep saying that they are making fun of reactionaries but why don't they ever call them faggots? Because it's commonly excepted that making fun of someones sexual orientation is bad. Just like felix getting ass blasted about making fun of rape. Why is it ok to make fun of virginity? Because they deserve it? Marxist believe in universal human rights not means tested selective bullshit.
Gabriel Ortiz
It's all Americans deserve. Frankly I'm saddened you're not dying off faster.
Gabriel Myers
then what the fuck are you doing bitching about it on the internet, go out there and firebomb GOP's local HQ and then the Democrats' as well
Carson Bailey
extremely comparable things, my good man
Lincoln King
so do you guys basically spend each week listening to some strangers make fun of reactionaries on the internet?
Ethan Butler
It's actually twice a week
Jackson Davis
Will the """"""dirtbag""""" left ever not be cucked?
I spit on you. All of you. You're cucks to the core.
Landon Murphy
Yes it's nice
You couldn't spit if you tried, you're not used to violence.
Bentley Morris
You're a bunch of fucking lamers.
P.s. amber makes the show 1000x worse
William Gray
Looks like you can't insult for shit either. What good can you do, you're more unemployable than we are. You can't punch, you can't spit, you can't fucking be violent, you can't insult, you can't get what you want and you were raised like a rat
What good can you do for the society you even want
Jose Sullivan
lammmmmmeeeeeeeeee
Luis Turner
Remember when chapo was new and you said they'd never be anything and were just aping off "The Right Stuff"
How's that fucking going Cassandra
Asher Sanchez
Felix is a better human being than you and he's Jewish
Nathaniel Kelly
You're Jewish cucks who will forever be tone policed by fat purple haired freaks who cut their dicks off after a lifetime of consuming soy.
Don't bother replying, I'm not even gonna read.
Logan Murphy
Sounds like a hell of a party, sign me up
Jayden Brooks
Then why even post you sad sack shit
Nathaniel Butler
"""I DON'T EVEN CARE RIGHT NOW"""
James Flores
Who do you think you are, anyways? You think you're not the one getting "tone policed" by yourselves?
fucking matt, his character was blowing through all the fucking non-combat roll, but round two of combat rolls around and he can't bear being the weakest fighter?
he's normally my favorite guy, but he was acting like a bitch after the croc-proud-boy fight
Isaac James
They frequently make fun of the blatant homoeroticism in right-wing fiction novels during the reading series segments
Kevin Thomas
I kind of get being pissed when I feel useless in table top combat encounters, especially if you're not as experienced with it. If they ever use Pathfinder or 5e I'd help him min max the fuck out of a character.
Lincoln Morales
my murderhobo hobo I've played for years in dark heresy
Caleb Campbell
honestly i understand newbies being frustrated at having an unoptimized character, i just wish he didn't act like such a bitch about it
getting quietly frustrated and saying "uh can't do much, guess i'll just stick back or whatever" is one thing, saying "WAHHH I HATE THIS, LET ME CUT MY CHARACTERS HEAD OFF" on a podcast that like tens of thousands of people listen to is just super cringy
it's not like this is even a real campaign, like 2 minutes before his first outburst in the battle at mcclain's house, he, felix, and mcclain took sanity damage from watching mike cernovich, rasputin, and a bear man pull up in an old jalopy, while will's character ducked behind a table to take a hit of opium
its a fucking lighthearted joke campaign making fun of our brain-damaged president and other right-wing dipshits
Kayden Brown
I love soy
Camden Morgan
This sounds pretty funny, is it one episode or spread out?
Levi Fisher
all that happened in one ep but it was a 4 part series
Parker Collins
my dudes where do I download War Nerd premium episodes?
Farming ad money from search engine referrals. Surprised 4pol hasn't mistaken it for leftypol HQ.
Isaiah Gray
I see this page all the time when I'm googling chan-related content. It apparently archives a lot of boards and makes it seem like a board of its own for money. Be less paranoid user.
That's not what Will said tho. He said the individual mandate was the "sup for the market" and that medicaid expansion was the semi-socialist element of the ACA. Go back and listen again.
Angel Lewis
So are Sam and Amber just done with Whale Vomit? It's been like a month and a half or something since they released an episode. Also, what's up with Felix and Ed on Scumbag? Same situation in that it's been ages in podcast time since their last episode. They done with that one too?
Ryan Bennett
Am I the only one here who is somewhat bothered by Chapo Traphouse giving this whole Russia hysteria too much credit lately?
Matthew Flores
It's a subtle way to shake down the FSB
Noah Perry
DISGUSTING!
Leo Myers
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Leo Campbell
I fucking hate this shit so much. The people of the Chapo universe are always announcing projects that they never bother taking past a handful of episodes.
Joseph Davis
Listening to the latest episode where they mention Politicon and they brought up the Pod Save America podcast. What can anyone tell me about it? Also its hosted by Jon Favreau, is he just another retarded liberal or what cause it keeps saying online that they consider themselves "progressives"
Charles Jenkins
All the hosts were speech writers/advisers/etc. in the Obama admin. They're definitely Libs, but they've at least had the hindsight to admit Bernie would've won, Hilary didn't just lose because "MUH RUSSKIES" but because she was a deeply flawed candidate, etc. So, they're Liberals, but they're definitely more self-aware than the wine-mom and MSNBC crowd that bitches and moans about "Bernie-bros" on Twitter/Facebook and acts outwardly hostile to progressives, leftists, etc..
I haven't listened to them in a bit because I've been filling my queue with more and more actual Left podcasts so it's hard to keep up, but if you're wanting a mainstream liberal perspective that isn't totally tone deaf to the current climate you could do a lot worse.
Ryan Jenkins
Are you actually retarded? They specifically said that was an aspect entirely for the sake of the market
Noah Nelson
Such as? I could use some new listening.
Jeremiah Wood
Well obviously Chapo, but Amber and Sam Kriss do Whale Vomit on the Baffler feed (though they haven't done a new episode since like the beginning of June, but the Baffler feed also does News from Nowhere), I listen to the daily headline breakdown on DC Sentinel Radio, I've started listening to Champagne Sharks since Ricky was on Chapo though. It's mostly about race and race related cultural issues but I'm trying to listen with an open mind.
Joseph Jenkins
I'm very hyped to see Chapo's coverage of this past DSA convention, especially all of Amber's hot takes given her insider knowledge.
Evan Brooks
I just miss Amber.. her twitter feed is gone.. she was the host I most identify with.
Easton Barnes
All she did was log off twitter, it's not like she's dead.
Angel Ross
Jon Favreau is one of those pretentious, rich and douchie libs, he was a speech writer for obama
Josiah Edwards
Virgil was in the media balcony the who time, the others mostly weren't at the con.
Leo Brooks
RIP Frost / Christman
Ethan Lee
Amber looks really different in every picture and it's really weird.
Luke Brooks
i thought they said they would trat frost/christman would happen again once matt moved to NY
Sebastian Flores
It's like some paranormal shit. Like vampires can't see themselves in mirrors, her appearance morphs in changes in every photo.
Colton Anderson
Sometimes she drinks too much bourgeois blood and has to shed her skin.
Noah Kelly
Damn Felix is handsome
Bentley Gray
I listened to an ep. It's total shite mate.
Jose Taylor
It'd be cool if they traded Adam for Felix or Will for a couple of episodes. Idk if it'd work, but it'd be interesting for a bit tbh
Kevin Bennett
Felix is the only good part tho.
Hunter Wright
Adam's pretty funny too and he could easily fill the Felix's role on the pod.
Angel Wood
It would be funny if they switched the two but kept acting the same towards them, so Nick bullies Felix and everyone on Chapo talks about how buff Adam is
Evan Howard
It works because Felix is the least knowledgeable Chapo by a long shot, so Adam's pretending to know current events would fill in the gap.
Levi Taylor
Adam's actually pretty thicc tho
Adam King
I have a friend who loves Cumtown but the episodes I listened to it's just dumbass bants and talking about stand-up comedy stuff while they bully Adam and that fatass Greek brays his annoying laugh for like ten minutes on a stretch. Adam seems like the most knowledgeable one from what I've listened to.
Is it political in any way or is it just "One long shitpost: The podcast"?
Camden Lewis
No, not at all.
Yes.
Mason Price
Cum Town isn't political.
I really love Cum Town, but the last couple months haven't been the best. The Adam shit talking got way out of hand and dominated the podcast for a while, but it has calmed down some now. Go back and listen to all of their old episodes, some of those are insanely good.
Charles Reed
Some of the episodes are pretty bad, other episodes are really great. It's just them having conversations and making jokes. The less seriously you try to take it the better. You'll eventually get used to Stav's laugh and grow to love it.
Hunter Howard
Stav is Nick's muse. Imagine being a comedian with a best friend who laughs heartily at every single joke you make.
Cooper Cooper
Cum Town is apolitical aural shitposting.
If you go to the /r/cumtown you'll see that the fanbase is actually split between leftists and Cumia/MDE runoff who hate leftism the show's association with Chapo.
Xavier Barnes
Yeah
Colton Jones
nice
Adam Torres
Stav chuckles nervously Stav laughs heartily Stav begins laughing so hard he bursts into flames and his lungs explode. He starts pissing himself from laughter, which fails to put out the flames but makes everything smell like burnt hair and urine. The earth trembles below the apartment because he's so fat, opening a gaping crack into the underbelly of the earth. The cumboys are dragged into the blackness, with Stav laughing so hard blood spills from his mouth as they descend into the molten core of the earth, smashing into the rock as they fall. The continued laughter echoes off the rock, causing the largest known earthquake in history, crippling the powergrids of several of the world's major cities, plunging humankind into darkness for weeks. Martial law is called into effect as the riots increase in size and aggressiveness. The DSA emerges victorious of the subsequent civil war, and Nick's body is embalmed and placed into a mausoleum for public display.
Isaiah Smith
pot meet kettle
Nicholas Ramirez
I want to see video of Matt bullying Trots.
Kayden Rivera
the boys all have pretty good leftist instincts but they're not politically active at all. the shitting on adam bit is kinda stale but usually they're good enough to make some of it work.
Xavier Howard
Bump
Camden Robinson
Except Nick
In fact he consistently has some of the dumbest opinions politics-wise, coupled with a belief of being smart
Caleb Taylor
I agree with that, but it was pretty funny that he had a better take on Occupy than Adam did in the most recent ep.
Jacob Bailey
But Adam was right.
Christian Rogers
i think chapo trap house is fucking epic
Jaxon Foster
ep 132 fucking sucks so far tbh
Samuel Ross
dirtbag summer reading list, from some bullshit thread they had on their subreddit or whatever
This newest episode (132) is fucking great, holy shit what a comeback tbh.
Levi Sanders
I feel like I'm missing some context on Felix's "truth about Syria" bit.
Brayden Williams
Really makes you think.
Samuel Cox
Felix is an ironic Assadist
Oliver Taylor
Pretty good.
Robert Hernandez
anyone got the link for the premium episode?
Jaxon Cruz
Chapo is alt-left propaganda
Nathan Anderson
133 is out and it is about what went down in charlottesville.
It is on the Black Wolf feed.
Matthew Reyes
It's pretty popular in the various chapo circles, they had a whole episode about it. Probably low priority to remind everyone to read it.
Adrian Edwards
I remember liking the book in high school but I don't understand the continued fascination with it. It's poorly written, Herbert has awful prose, despite the interesting setting which itself is fairly reactionary.
This is a good essay regarding the reactionary trend present in Sci-Fi.
Herbert literally wrote an essay explaining that Dune's moral is not to follow messianic cults.
The joke central to Dune is anyone can be Paul Mua'dib. Anyone can be Leto II.
They live in a giant fucking self perpetuating cult.
Lucas Kelly
I never understood the complaints about its prose, but I'm used to reading dry theory and history books.
Cooper Gray
there's a certain amount of irony is complaining of "awful prose" from Herbert while in the same post shilling a Moorcock essay
Josiah Lee
"imagine if tankies actually had tanks in that situation" HOLY SHIT MATT IS OUR GUY
Thomas Brown
Think it was episode 78, they discussed the Airport protests that happened around the time of Trump's inauguration as well.
I only read the first book and it was a while ago. The reading I made way back in the day was that Herbert had an obsession with old hierarchical structures, similar to Tolkien. Probably being uncharitable.
It's not perfect, but it's a good analysis of a problem I hadn't really considered prior,
Josiah Garcia
I unironically love Starship Troopers. Was interesting recognizing how it had influenced Japanese military scifi. Also the random anti-communist tangents were pretty funny.
Camden Rivera
He was criticizing it while writing it seriously, as if historically, as if a historically biased retelling of an event.
Dune is a lot more than a surface reading of it. It a powerful critique of power structures, idol worship, religion and the like. Told from the villain's perspective, that makes it more rational to try to justify his actions.
The point of the book is also to criticize the standard scifi "Hero" of the time he was writing he hated.
There's a lot going on to it, and if it seems cultish and reactionary, that's probably what Herbert is daring you to fall for.
Ayden Nguyen
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Jonathan King
shut up chud
Wyatt Morales
The new closer is bomb. Does anyone know what it is?
Jayden Hughes
L E F T U N I T Y
Jayden Howard
the new premium episode was unlocked its good folks
John Reed
he's probably only half-ironic because he knows the whole situation (saudi arabia and israel, which he hates, basically literally trying to destroy syria)
Christian Ortiz
"1 in da Chamber Pt 3" by DJ Smokey, on the same album as the theme song
Jaxon Williams
133 was a top episode. not a top, top episode, but still, a top episode. matt and felix had some great takes.
Evan Barnes
link….
read that before, specifically that's a problem with american science fiction if I remember rightly. i.e. the Culture novels (British) are different for example. And see the Strutskagy Brothers (Soviet/Russian sf) which basically is Star Trek
Robert Davis
have you read The Forever War by Joe Halderman? That's a response to Starship Troopers and a it depressing
They did make some great points. Facsists are essentially advocating genocide so its not reasonable to expect people to ignore them. But i wish they had put more emphasis on the difference between counter protesters who respond to attacks and black blockers literally going to hurt as many people as they can.
Xavier Ortiz
which opinions? he's espoused support for basic socdem goals explicitly and acknowledges the need for racial and economic justice. the only position i can think of that can be dumb is his freddie deboer-esque position on "free speech".
Aiden James
We need a Wiki to keep track of liberal-conservative pundits and all the dumb/reactionary shit they've said or done.
Hunter Ramirez
Lol such a chapofag take.
It always cracks me up that Adam is the cool funny one when he goes on Chapo. Like Chapo people are so unfunny that Adam is like a genuine comedian to them.
Bentley Sanders
Bad take. Adam really is the underrated cumboy, he's actually really funny. He gets shat on for no reason.
James Martinez
no but you're close. he gets shat on because he knows it's funny.
David Turner
I meant that he gets shat on by the listeners for no reason.
Oliver Price
He gets shat on because one, it makes the comedy of bullying him even funnier, and two he's annoying.
Nathan Parker
sad
Aiden Butler
Is there anything like black wolf feed but with Delete Your Account? I don't wanna spend any more money on podcasts.
Julian Jones
134 is up on Soundcloud lads
Jaxson Rivera
I think Will is too crucial to the show though, he's like the straight man to Felix and Matt. Virgil and Amber can kind of fill that role in some cases, but much of the show, especially interviews, is driven by Will.
Oliver Turner
You bitch and gossip about pod casters like a fucking queen
Daniel Gomez
Gorka bit wasn't that good but the rest of the episode is hilarious.
I love when they take a break from politics and just shoot the shit.
Jack Cruz
That paternity test on the aborted fetus story fucking killed me
Levi Garcia
on that unlocked ep on charlottesville, matt was fucking fire as usual but what was surprising is that both felix and matt and even will were on fucking point
Jaxon Morales
err both felix and virgin i meant
Oliver Bennett
Kek
Isaac Parker
Nice. I missed it tbh
Lincoln Phillips
135 is up on black wolf feed. honestly not a great ep. seemed pretty low energy and the guest didn't contribute much.
Carson Rogers
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Liam Lewis
porky but worse
Blake Sanchez
...
Robert Gomez
I just started listening to Struggle Session and now Leslie is on this week's Gray Wolf ep, so that's pretty cool. I wish the guests would participate in more of the regular banter though. Guy didn't really talk much until about halfway through the episode.
Gavin Wright
>Umm, we're the dirtbag left, we're not scared to go against the grain. We're hip, we're cool, we're edgy man. Watch out!
Luis Young
You realize they didn't choose that name for themselves right? The trying so hard to be cool thing doesn't really ring true when in American political discourse they are the coolest thing at the moment outside of an 80 year old democratic socialist who says the same things over and over again. Hip, cool, edgy… if these guys are trying to be that then they clearly aren't trying hard enough because they sound like normal people to me.
Asher Murphy
Amber is the one that coined the term dirtbag left.
Asher Brown
Why is he trying so hard to be this dangerous cool dude?
Jose Clark
You sound like you feel threatened.
Anthony Gomez
Mr Chapo keeps growing stronger
Daniel Richardson
Can we crowdfund a treadmill for Matt?
Connor Miller
How about a better fucking mic first? They all should have pro-tier equipment by now.
Jason Sullivan
lads i emailed chapo a couple of weeks ago about a guest and they never got back. will i need to fly to america to talk to them?
Christopher Russell
I think Matt literally records laying on his bed with his laptop balanced on his gut and then some kind of cheap mic
Anthony Wilson
I really like Nick's political opinions
Adam Wright
Anybody got the struggle session closed episodes?
David Perry
Living the dream
Julian Cox
Fuck the guest this week is absolutely horrible. Where the fuck do they find these people?
Luis King
Fuck knows. I've never heard of most of them and they barely know what they're on about. I got a well known (on here) professor to agree to going on but Mr Chapo never replied to my emails. Yet they seem to keep getting no name dipshits on every week.
Jacob Wright
I've never listened to Chapo but nearly every time I scroll past this thread I'm given reason to think they're useless hipster fucks.
Grayson Brown
They shit on democrats a lot and sound really edgy and radical sometimes by talking positively about Marx, Lenin, anarchism, etc. But in reality they're just social democrats (except for maybe Amber and Matt). They rarely, if ever, talk about the problems and limitations of social democracy and reformism. They are really funny though, and sometimes insightful as well. I still enjoy the show even though I'm a commie.
Carson Allen
The SocDem criticism kind of bugs me though. America is HILARIOUSLY dead in terms of class consciousness compared to even other western nations. You can't whiplash people immediately from a corporatist controlled shithole into a communist/socialist state until you show them that organizing and collectivism can actually work and be beneficial to them. The easiest way to accomplish that without being shut-out from the get-go in western systems is reformism. Reformism doesn't mean you have to stop pushing, but it's a damn better start than what passes for "Left" in mainstream American political discourse.
Jaxon Cox
I think in America at least where so many people have a bizarrely uninformed knee jerk opposition to anything left of neoliberalism, and the fact that they are also the most reactionary and well armed section of the population you can't expect a total collapse of the liberal order to result in anything other than fascism. The only way to counter that is to give people a small taste of leftism with socdem policies, so people try it and maybe come to like it. Then if a revolution occurs there's more than a 1% chance of it ending in communism.
Carson Cooper
Yes you are right. I don't think that nothing should be done if it's not revolution and full communism. You need learn how to organize and get those small victories in order to build a movement. Legal and illegal struggle are both important for that. I just think they're too optimistic about what can actually be achieved with reformism. I like Corbyn too but they seem to think that if he wins the next election the UK will be on it's way to socialism. They ignore all the structural obstacles to reformism that are built in to the (global) capitalist mode of production. Maybe I'm strawmanning them but that's the impression I get listening to them celebrate Corbyn's popularity.
Asher Peterson
Showing people the power of mass action and that acheiveing all their goals by working within the system is impossible due to the constraints of bourgeois democracy. Reformism failing is the best way to radicalize people towards revolution.
Adam Bailey
are people seriously this oddly stupid? does what media you consume effect your own material views this much.
Benjamin Cooper
welcome to late capitalism where consumption is politics
Leo Morris
I wanted really badly to refute you, but I couldn't.
oΓL
Robert Martin
that doesn't have anything to do with capitalism, it's just the way we work, create echo chambers and shit for ourselves
Lucas Smith
When the guest of the last epi shat on Marcus H. Johnson I thought he was talking about Adam H. Johnson and got angry at him for a second
Kayden Cruz
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Benjamin Myers
What did he mean by this?
Dominic Turner
they used to shill their first few episodes on Holla Forums right? I never listened to it but everyone here told them they were terrible and should quit
Ayden Lopez
Fuck that. I want proper guests like Mieville, Curtis, Scahill where the Chapos stfu and let the guest speak and the guest has something worth listening to.
Joshua Carter
yeah it lacks banter and chemistry
Chase Perry
It's actually alright
Jayden Kelly
this guest on the latest episode is impossible to listen to, fucking hell did he do a g of coke before turning up
Blake Reed
137 is up on black wolf lads
John Brown
I'll let the boys know of your preferences, user
Evan Long
Tell them Mark Blyth says he'll go on the show.
Anthony Barnes
They're called ouiaboos dammit
Juan Garcia
That would be cool. Blyth's a liberal but he's a smart guy. His criticisms of neoliberalism are top notch.
Ryan Ward
lmao are you inviting people to the podcast? what a fucking sperg
Connor Rodriguez
I just asked him out of the blue and he unexpectedly said "yeah okay then, sort it out for me"
Easton Murphy
It's down, now I have no way to pirate Radio war nerd?
What shall I do, where shall I go? Will I have to pay for entertainement?
Sad times when Your Girl is being compared to a bunch of wastemen and their podcast.
Ian Hernandez
Oh dear, just noticed they pulled a "Ha, you made a typo" move.
Brandon Peterson
How are these people still around?
Lucas Reed
Why is it in episode 117 Matt again punches down on incels and says they should build sex robots for them? I know he specifically says "reactionary incels" but why does he have to talk about incels at all? Why can't he just talk about reactionaries and leave it at that? It's like they can't stop punching down.
Holy shit, if that's the "smart" future porky is going to bring us I'm just going to kill myself now. It's insane that these tech dipshits fetishize the daily grind so much, they're fucking reptilians. I can see why fascism is so appealing to these autistic fucks.
Elijah Ross
this is disgusting I understand that you don't want people to be useless sacks of shit but that doesn't mean you gotta fetishize drudgery jesus christ, they all look so gray and lifeless except for the fact they're singing
Parker Williams
yeah they really didn't make good use of him tbh
Jack Miller
they deleted all the cumtown fan comments lmao
Hudson Richardson
The Hezzbollah bit was fucking gold
Jaxson Howard
I really dislike these guys.
They try so hard to be cool that it comes off as inauthentic.
Zachary Reyes
Bad take.
Oliver Jackson
if youre still unironically listening to chapo after they ate dick so hard on the dahnald youre a fucking moron. If youre paying for it you are aiding and abetting the enemy, might as well donate to the fucking beeb
The young hip lefties didnt see this coming, its so goddamned funny except it isnt, It shows how much a much of a bubble they live in, textbook alienated bujis, also the fact that they jumped on the bernie train shows how geopolitically incompetent they are, all chapo is really good at is rolling around in minutia, its a real testament to their roots in the New Yorkeresque establishment.
Chapo is and will always remain harmless to the unipolar order, which is why the perception management machine is happy to promote them
Maybe you should have looked at sanders voting record instead of writing apologist blogs about banksters or hard-hitting topics like swamp ass you goofy cunt, but thats just my opinion
honestly kahuna might be right theyre probably a limited hangout, cum town is the superior NazBol podcast
Angel Phillips
What does this mean? Why are nazbols such bad posters? Why all the reddit spacing?
Angel Johnson
What happened, did they take it down?
Hudson Ramirez
Is this post supposed to be a Red Kahina parody? Because it is completely unintelligible.
what does this mean? are you fucking stupid son? they actually thought hilldawg was going to win, how fucking delusional can you possibly get, they do not inhabit the same reality as us plebs, they live in a torture chamber, this is blatantly obvious, almost as obvious as the impending dahnald win, even michael moore knew he was going to win and that poor man completely lost it long ago. Listening to chapo right after the election was pathetic, theres no other way to phrase it, they outed themselves as true western liberals
fucking chapo defence force up in this bitch, everytime, you people are almost as sad as unironic pol/acks, you have no idea how walled the garden is that you are in
yes G..ehhh comrade, disregard that glowing review in the new yorker and all the obvious ties to the 5th column, it means nothing, we have a free press here not like under that rabid despot Putler!
Adrian Sanders
h-u-g box is a wordfilter, whyy
Isaiah Gomez
lol what are you hopped up on kid?
Benjamin Reed
All of Holla Forums's 2016 buzzwords are filtered. It's amusing when you get some utter meme spouting retard that trips like 5 of the filters in a very short post.
Grayson Rivera
the fact that the first response in the comments is "dolores go on cum town" made me happier than it should have
Cooper Lopez
they thought this so hard they didn't write material for their live election episode in the event of a Trump win. All those Chapo guys have bourgeois ties. This
Cameron Murphy
They're podcasts have a bunch of product placement too, supposedly something their audience is too smart for. I listened to one episode and they "ironically" talked about Applebee's for a solid 10 mins. Product placement in rap videos is less intrusive.
Daniel Ward
LMAO its a dumb fun podcast not some 5d chess move by the bourgeoisie to destroy the left. tanks need to chill the fuck out, smoke a bowl and take their meds.
Jackson Nguyen
It's because they're just another outgrowth of the NY media-cultural complex, with all the associated hangups, biases, and neuroses.
And why everything shortly after the election became Ugh, Drumpf: Slightly Left of Liberal Electric Boogaloo
Kayden Gonzalez
The simpler answer isn't that's their opportunistic lumpenproles that couldn't critically analyze themselves out of a paper bag.
Evan Barnes
*The simpler answer is that they're
Joshua Reyes
lol same fagging
Tyler Gonzalez
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Jaxson Garcia
Nah homie, just some people have friends that aren't white and middle class.
Tyler Bailey
buddy if you're bringing up that you have non-white middle class friends to prove a point in an arguement you most certainly are white and middle class
Brayden King
200 proof insurrectionary Jesus mein nigger
I ride an ass, I have no patience for false prophets, and I bring not peace but the sword to the moneylendors. Join me brother
LEMAO JUST LIKE 420 AND ENJOY LOL XDXD JAJAJA
shut the fuck up you useless fucking cocksucker, that excuse dont fly no mo if it ever has, too much shit has been co-opted and when you start to really look into it you realize this has been going on for a long time. Your mentality is written proof that they have been to some extent successful, i love how chapofags constantly shift between repeating talking points from them to "hurr durr its just a dumb show whyuhefftobemad"
it isnt, it fucking styles itself as a legit politics podcast, its not funny enough to be anything else, and it avoids delving into real topics that might make these buji brooklynite pansexuals uncomfortable by focusing on small rearguard actions or making wide almost meaningless statements, often these little skirmishes are idpol related or some little bitcheroo about something that is ultimately a symptom of the entire fucking fubar which will never be addressed
thats hilarious, not unlike south park, at least those two felt bad about the shitty episode and obviously went through some introspection afterwards, chapo just carried on merrily
sure, im not even necessarily saying they are witting agents (although if anyone has an actual handler its will), but it doesnt really fucking matter if its intentional, they are still shooting the Real-left in the foot and ultimately being patsies for imperialism, they should be hounded and pelted with produce regardless of intent
Alexander Carter
You have to love tankies, no matter what they just cannot help pointing out anything related to the soviet union no matter how tangential
If I grew a pair and died for a cause the tankies would find out my distant cousin once slandered Stalin and picket my funeral
Andrew Sullivan
lol you think white people that didn't white flight don't exist.
Julian Wood
Lol take your meds.
I never said they don't.
Jace Gray
Rush Limbaugh fans do the exact same thing, they were probably trying to copy Rush's business model. Make a monolithic other, for Rush its liberals for Chapo it's liberals and tankies. Obsucate your week rhetoric with dense inside jokes and references. When Rush fucks up hes says "media tweak!" Meaning he said something's purposefully inflammatory to prompt the mainstream media to overreact. Chapo does victory laps every time some mouth breather conservative gets butt mad at them.
Eli Wilson
Oh and constantly tell your audience your the only source for an unflinching look at your political opponents.
Julian Nelson
You can back this up with examples right?
Jayden Hall
Uh yeah, their on fans will tell you Chapos "irony" is multi layered.
Jaxon Peterson
that bit was funny for awhile and I loves me some cum but its become a defence mechanism, its also kind of a testament to how unoriginal chapo fans are, they dont even have their own bit to deal with criticism
hopefully someone will eventually take up the invitation, mullen is retarded and probably a crypto-buddhist but hes a lot more nuanced and far less dogmatic than anyone on chapo
that sounds very accurate, havent done any uncut lush bimbaugh lately thank god but im going to take your word for it, also fits to the daily show and all the offshoots quite well, "muh republicans", or beck, or jonestown jones..are you the one that posted the article above? im gonna read all that inasec, havent found too many good criticisms of chapo yet, bigredkahuna is entertaining but goddamn can she be a cryptic bitch
Robert Richardson
Rush or Chapo?
Jonathan Hernandez
Chapo. Rush being propagandist peice of shit should be obvious to anyone posting here
Jordan Sullivan
Really? Every episode I've ever listened to bagged on either some conservative and or liberal nobody with a column in BFE Egypt.
Jace Roberts
We'll they're dense "ironic" humor STARTS WITH THEIR FUCKING NAME A weird reference to "El Chapo Guzman" a crinmial that murdered and raped countless Mexican proles, what's the fuck is even the joke there?
Grayson Bell
hahahaha
Ryan Allen
I've listened to Rush a long time, I used to do it because I used to get ambushed by his talking points because I live in a super red state. I'm not even kidding all the Rush "Dittohead" attributes are there in Chapo fans. The way Chapo fans sperg out when Chapo is criticized is beat for beat the same way dittoheads do it. Not to mention Rush and Chapo share this "I'm always right" smugness, and both claim it's some kind of joke.
Anthony Green
Making fun of twitter randos isn't proping them up as a great other who will destroy you and should be feared like Limbaugh does on his show. They haven't told their listeners that they are the only news source they can trust in any episode I have listened to.
Grayson Williams
its a roundabout way to steal ghetto valor, they are just trying to tell everyone they are cool and listen to rappity raps, felix desperately wants to say the N-word(understandable) and knows he cant because hes woke now
even weirder for me is the "grey wolves" bit and the fucking PsyOp military/intelligence patches on every ep, im assuming its a reference to tankies calling them controlled opposition but its still creepy in an almost telltale heart kinda way
the comparison is fascinating, you should do a play by play or something, ive completely stopped listening to them but I should probably get my emotions in check and tune in again for research purposes. A good litmus test for me both irl and in media is when someone has actually admitted that they were really fucking wrong about something at some point, wonder if this has ever happened on chapo
im gonna read that article now instead of sounding off
Evan White
It is though, they're usually not making fun of their politics but all these superficial bullshit traits Chapo says they all share like politically affiliated people are fucking high school cliques. The most dangerous are Nazis are Hugless kissless virgins even though many are bourgeois or petite bourgeois or are fucking police and soldiers!
Ryder Bennett
OMG this! Its probably why they won't shut up about military stolen valor, I get that it makes conservatives butt mad but damn they talk about it too much! I think I'll get started on that, if you want a TL;DR of Rush's stupid shit they have his best dumb hot takes on mediamatters.org, listen to a few clips and just replace liberals with tankies or conservatives and it's almost the same rhetoric.
Nathan Long
Except they constantly make fun of liberal politics and talk about liberalism failures. They don't say that hand holdless virgins are the most dangerous fascists at all.
Sebastian Reed
SAMEFAGS AHOY
Gavin Rogers
They make fun of political faux pas like Clintons messaging, not shit like landlords fucking over vulnarble people, The GOP fromenting racism for decades, etc
Sebastian Robinson
Before Cville they would not STFU about reactionary alt right incels, as though the only men that struggle to find a partner were Nazi sympathizers, or that even most Nazis are robots.
Benjamin Hughes
See, this is exactly how Rush dittoheads react to criticism too, it just all butt hurt from the other.
Jace Harris
they make fun of out of touch liberals and talk about the horrible shit capitalism does dude. Its possible to do both.
Before Cville they would not STFU about reactionary alt right incels, as though the only men that struggle to find a partner were Nazi sympathizers, or that even most Nazis are robots. Before Cville they constantly talked about police and militia types being dangerous. Fascists tend to be freaks with sexual issues look at the leadership of the Nazi Germany.
Henry Nguyen
They make fun of easy targets, they're one step away from making fun of typos. They spend 100 times more time gossiping about media figures, Bullshit, even if true they spend waaaaay more time yammering about fucking incels.
Isaac Wilson
there are at least 3 of us here right now including you, say something bitch, shouting samefag just means you are admitting you are incapable of arguing with a schizophrenic
I read that article the guy posted its pretty durn good despite some minor bullshit
Angel Johnson
JESUS K CHRIST ON A STICK its just getting worse and worse
you fuckin do that homie, these niggas need to go down, that article is damning despite some of the nonce, its worse than even I expected and the author is obviously not quite as paranoid as a lot of tankies, menakers dad had a decades long bromance with a fucking FBI agent, unbeliebs
the problem that chapo has obviously identified but many more..authentic leftists clearly have not is that nobody fucking reads anything anymore, they want well produced audio at least, any legit takedown of chapo would have to have some production quality and a coherent script, as decent as that piece is its all over the place and requires some foreknowledge, a blog wont cut it im afraid.
A youtube audio with some pics of bimbaugh and chapo resorting to the same rhetoric would be pretty fucking cash and an an amazing start, you do what you can do bruh my head is still reeling i need to do some irl shit
Carson Harris
why are you pretending to black or something user?
Dominic Martinez
I self identify as POC bitch, also I look like a dirty mexican
how dare you call me an anarchist
John Campbell
lmao what the fuck happened in this thread?
chapo are just a bunch of edgy socdems but they are genuine
Bentley Cruz
the red kahina brigade
Easton Young
I think as life under capitalism gets worse proles are starting to separate themselves along material conditions. While I'm sure most of Chapos audience isn't petite bourgeois they act and parrot the propaganda of the petite bourgeois. Their podcast really only concerns itself with white suburbanite anxieties, but like liberal feminists, trys to rally support, sympathy and legitimacy by presenting themselves as representative of all proles. They're quite toxic, and they're annoying to anyone just trying to keep a roof over their head, or trying direct action like organizing a union with their constant braying over inconsequential Twitter fights or trumps racism, as though the Southern strategy he banks in is a new thing.
Landon Garcia
you're honest to god retarded it's not a "blueprint for the revolution" podcast, it's not a marxist critique podcast, it's not a political theory podcast, it's a podcast about twitter fights, daily/weekly silly shit in politics from a leftier-than-liberal perspective
you're building a strawman so you can strike it down with bitching about how they don't have a 3 hour episode analyzing the first page of wage labour and capital or something
Mason Butler
I thought the Chapo shit was because Mexican cartels are basically guerrilla armies that literally fight the Mexican state.
Nathaniel Bailey
You're such a fucking retard. It's a comedy podcast about left-twitter. Also, "petite bourgeois" isn't just a catch-all insult for things you don't like. It has a meaning you fucking dolt.
Alexander Edwards
I know, the white moderately wealthy petite bourgeois often own rental properties, stocks, and other interests in businesses which is why they were able to cocoon themselves in white suburbs away from blacks they left in the inner city. Like I said most of Chapos audience isn't petite bourgeois themselves but their parents certainly are. I. can tell just by their tone and subject matter, like the "ironic" rough offensive way they talk. It's pretty clear that they really do desire a street credibility.
James Morales
Oh brother please STFU, they work with the state particularly the Mexican Marines. If you think cartels as big as the ones in Mexico aren't working with the state read a book please.
Caleb Bennett
The old Rush Limbaugh "it's just entertainment" defense. It's a political podcast therefore it's political
Thomas Stewart
Hahahahahahaha, holy shit, this faggot is mad about common people's "rough, offensive" speech. You literally couldn't embody the "elitist ivory tower communist" stereotype any more right now, lmao.
Nope. You're mad that they're not more serious and that they don't have much substance very often, which is dumb because it's just a podcast about left-twitter. Expecting incredible theory from them is retarded. Stop posting.
Ayden Cooper
Only in the heads sheltered white suburbanites fed on porky created Eminem albums are the common man's language endlessly abrasive.
William Diaz
Verily, indeed.
Easton Cox
t. middle class white male
Jackson Flores
Lmaooooooo, they mentioned Eminem yet again. Have you lost your virginity yet faggot? Or are you still the sexually frustrated brainlet that we all know you are?
Jonathan Nelson
t. middle class person who thinks they're marginalized when they aren't
Daniel Flores
I'm not mad about that though, I like comedy too, they're toxic and their comedy is like rush Limbaugh, they have this weird tribalism humor,
Brody Bennett
"muh toxicity", "they're like Limbaugh". We get it, you don't like them. Please stop repeating the same shit over and over, it's obnoxious.
Jason Smith
This just might be that rarest beast of all - a semi-intelligent Holla Forums troll. It would make a change from posting pictures of homosexuals copulating or big black penises existing. Or just some bored lefty fucking around.
Blake Johnson
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William Taylor
Have you ever been hated or discriminated against? I have, I've been protested and demonstrated against.
Charles Evans
It's not a Holla Forums troll, it's a mad anti-irony dipshit who posts in this thread occasionally. They hate Eminem and think that reactionary virgins are an extremely marginalized group.
I'm not wrong though, faggot.
Jace Powell
Then quit using the same strawmen. This is another juvenile tactic you Chapo fans use, you exhaust all the novel criticism of your critics, then try to make it seem illegitimate by saying it's trite.
Juan Lewis
You have no novel criticism tho. Stop posting.
Jose Flores
Yes I've been discriminated against
Benjamin Morales
That's what said, it's still salient though
Carter Sanchez
I guess if you don't make any arguments you can't be "wrong" by definition
Jonathan Moore
No I don't, just called out shallow Chapo fans for attempting to create a safe out group to pick on, you guys are like high schoolers I swear.
Jose Baker
Except that's wrong, faggot.
Camden Miller
You know, people who talk about all the sex time are the ones not getting it.
Owen Robinson
Except it's not you edge Lord that thinks he's tough because he uses the f word on a chan.
Adam Roberts
Lmao
Elijah Smith
I don't know why your laughing, a few people criticize Chapo and you guys act like your baba got taken away.
Dylan Myers
Picket signs for my wicked rhymes, look at the times. Sick as the mind of the motherfucking kid that's behind all this commotion, emotions run deep as oceans. Exploding tempers flaring from parents - just blow them off and keep going.
Angel Morris
still better thread shitting than the "its hard out there for an incel" guy
Zachary Cox
Holy shit I am so fucking woke oh my god look how woke I am hnngghhh I just came because I personally uncovered the Chapo conspiracy to subvert the real left if you know any minorities (unlikely because you're not as woke as me) please give them my number so they can suck my dick for being so woooookkkeeeee
Jason Morgan
this but unironically
Jaxson Baker
go back to Holla Forums
Justin Ramirez
New episode is out. Someone update the Black Wolf Feed.
Ethan Gomez
holy shit whoever is running the black wolf feed get it together fam
Henry Hughes
When will they get a proper guest on, the last like 15 guests have been complete nobodies. Can't they get someone who actually knows something with all that Twitter money instead of media people and Twitter people
Alexander Lewis
they should get chompsky on the show just to ask him if he'd hatefuck foucault
Jackson Hughes
Chapo isn't really a podcast for serious topics. It's really just current events heavily mixed with twitter drama. It's mainly just good for laughs.
You should check out KPFA Against The Grain and Economic Update with Richard D. Wolff if you want shows with actual guests and in-depth analysis on a variety of leftist subjects.
Tyler Parker
So they're the Daily Show of podcasts i.e. they'll talk about politics 24/7, but the minute you bring up any criticism of them they'll hide behind DUDE IT'S JUST COMEDY LMAO
Zachary Martinez
I thought they were rush limbaugh?
Henry Sanchez
(You)
lmao that Holla Forums is obsessed with the Daily Show of podcasts
Dylan Reyes
CHAPO IS GIN-U-WINE
Ryan Evans
thank god for leftypol but its still got a long fuckin way to go, we are all deeply ensnared within western liberalism
Ive read like the three main articles that actually offer valid criticism of chapo, they are kind of a wanky mess(like most leftist blogs) despite making some very valid points.
BigRedKahuna is a well read smaht cunt and shes had some solid burns but 90% of the time shes almost unintelligible, making her borderline worthless for any serious attack on chapo traps. I will attempt to summarise what I have learned soon and try to do so without a bunch of stylistic bullshit and without lacing it with all my personal vitriol towards these yuppie brooklynite cocksuckers.
Chapo rabbithole is really fucking deep. Wills grandpa the spook, the whole cafe.com angle that basically puts them right in the middle of the new york democratic establishment, Democratic Cops of America, Jacobin, if any of you really think there is anything "grassroots" about chapo you are tragically naive
Easton Lopez
HAWWW solid wordfilter on the D-S-A, im actually enjoying tripping over some of these at this point, still pissy about the St-rasser discriminashun up in hee tho
Hudson Phillips
thats alot of words for "i forgot to take my schizophrenia meds".
William Williams
Didn't she say stop watching David Lynch films/David Lynch should be banned because to her, his movies come across as criticizing miscegenation
Landon Jones
Almost like this post
Jonathan Bell
Holy shit dude it's been months and you're still on this shit? I'm sorry you don't get laid
Connor Butler
incels are the true revolutionary class fam
Hunter Myers
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Luis Thomas
My grandfather was a high ranking officer for the navy of a country I've never set foot in. Are you serious about this shit? You know people don't have cross-generational spy plans outside of your favorite comic books right?
Adrian Adams
…being a spy for the USSR is a bad thing here now?
James Miller
imagine a soviet spy training his grandson to bring about the downfall of america through a weird lefty twitter podcast a regular kim philby
Jose Myers
having matt in the studio really highlights how annoying his laugh is matt moving to ny is the end of the show
Jackson Baker
Nick should just give the chapo boys access to the stav sounboard for the laughtrack, problem solved
Ryder Bell
and imagine a leftist believing it happened and thinking it's a bad thing for some reason
Carson Baker
Today was the day Chapo finally died.
Noah Torres
So this is the reasonable leftist alternative to identity politics.
Christopher Gutierrez
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Alexander Taylor
yo give it at least a couple of weeks before shitposting again, have a heart man
Noah Bennett
It's 80k a month, actually. Stay mad.
Nolan Flores
the cafe.com "rabbit hole" is retarded lmao
Luis Murphy
I think I'm done with this podcast. I can't stand that the only thing they talk about is burger electoral politics, memes, Twitter, and various right wing e-celebs
Why did they abandon talking about important things and interviewing people who weren't twatters or media retards? Like when they has max Blumenthal or adam Curtis on.
They make a lot of money now you'd think they could invite important people who know what they are talking about
Jackson Morris
does anyone have a working radio war nerd rss feed link?
Nathan Ward
How come every time a Holla Forumsack tries to concern troll Chapo they mention, without fail, that they make a lot of money as part of the reason?
Like good lord, for all the "leftists are just jealous" talk, it's you people who seem really bothered by that. Nobody here gives a shit about Jordan or Sargon's Patreon accounts, but Holla Forums seems to check Chapo's every week.
Tyler Myers
Based on a lot of personal arguements I've had with Liberals and reactionaries irl this is how they view Leftism, they think it's a kind of asceticism, they literally think we want everyone to be poor just because we don't believe less then one percent of the world population should hold more then half of the world's wealth. It's such strange logic, I once had an argument with a guy who was like "oh, you're a Socialist?? well, how about you cut up your credit cards and empty your bank account? then we'll see how far you get lol XD" I was so perplexed by his line of argument all I could do was laugh tbh.
Mason Ramirez
Because, imho, it's proof that the Chapo boys are just another arm of the Jewish elite and Democrat establishment.
I'd listen to and respect a real far left podcast…not one propped up and hosted by elements of the Jewish ruling class.
Dylan Harris
Because right-wing pro-capitalist personalities making money off of patreon doesn't contradict the message of the ideology they promote. Where as a bunch of leftists, who believe that the bourgeoisie are bad and that the poor should be helped, having more money than they will ever need yet doing nothing to help their cause with it comes off as hypocritical. They absolutely have the means to donate half their income or more to a socialistic cause and still live comfortably, but they don't. Any leftist who doesn't do that when they can is a hypocrite because their ideology is anti-mass accumulation of wealth where as right-wingers are not.
The right-wing equivalent would be a WN irrelevant shiting, then they would come off as hypocritical.
Daniel Watson
Not even sure if this is trolling at this point.
Ethan Fisher
This
Rush Limbaugh hides behind the "it's just entertainment" excuse too.
Cameron Sanchez
The only thing that disturbs me is that they haven't used the money to invite a quality guest on in months. The roasting of whatever right wing retard can only go so far, you need something of substance eventually. And they haven't been delivering
I don't listen to chapo for the only the comedy. There are way better comedy podcasts available, and there are also plenty of podcasts dedicated to roasting right wingers
John Myers
Because then they'd have to have a real political view on something and their fragile egos, much like their audiences egos, couldnt take the criticism, but boy can they dish it out.
Eli Perry
I wouldn't compare Chapo to The Daily Show because comparing a podcast to television is really ridiculous. There's, a, significantly less control over a podcast
Alexander Harris
Gods speed user, I'll be awaiting your write up on pins and needles.
Aiden Gomez
Says the guy who's ego is assaulted by chapo
Ian James
Go on cum town
Lincoln Howard
I do listen to cum town. And I like. The cum town guys are actually funny. Especially Nick. Really great comedy podcast
Chapo is meant to a comedy/politics podcast and it shits the bed both times
Jack Flores
lmao triggered
Sebastian Wood
How
William Phillips
Being crude doesn't make something more funny. Cum Town is funny but I wouldn't say its more funny, they're two entirely different podcasts
Jaxon Bailey
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Joshua Jackson
Their comedy comes from that, not their politics. It's just a podcast about shitting on things you're not really into, and that's fine.
An…American political podcast is about American politics?
Xavier Perry
Matt is good.
Aiden Bennett
"bourgeoisie" isn't "when you have money" though so you might as well skip that critique and just yell "I don't understand socialism" since you're just embarrassing yourself the same way
William Lee
niggers
Easton Green
Yeah, being objectively more funny, witty, and original makes something funny.
One is a comedy podcast, one isn't.
Kayden Nelson
You're really over selling cum town, it's not more than it is
Joseph Smith
I'm really not. But if your the type of person who genuinely finds Chapo funny then you're not the type to who appreciates comedy or wants to enjoy pure comedy like Cumtown.
Anthony Jones
Most of the people in this thread listen to and enjoy both though, and for different reasons. I'm not sure why that's a hard concept for you.
Ryder Wilson
You're mistaking Cum Town for better podcasts like the flour hour and e1
Jack Brooks
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Matthew Nelson
E1 is decent. Flour hour is trash and you should be embarrassed for liking it
John Young
Oh fuck off
Jack Gonzalez
...
Julian Bell
...
Daniel Gomez
Our conversation is over
Jackson Sullivan
K
Jonathan Morales
kek
Parker Ramirez
The level of political illiteracy in this post is fucking astounding.
Jaxson Hughes
I seriously hope you mean donating their funds to an org or political campaign and aren't talking about some fucking charity bullshit. Considering that they're Democratic Cops of America members, I believe they already do through dues and possibly other donations.
Jason Gonzalez
Do membership dues scale up with income or are the guys who each make a quarter of a million dollars a year from patreon alone pay the same amount as a person who makes less than 25k a year?
Nicholas King
Someone at the US House of Reps is a fan
Cooper Collins
Wew
Josiah Collins
Wew
William Fisher
cth are obvious sheepdogs. Their dumbshit subreddit creams every time a democrat signs on to Medicare for all. Amazing how these god damn idiots can get conned over and over. There are no good democrats. Chapo did not grow organically. Media did not stumble upon the podcast and start promoting it by accident. Get ready to get conned.
Aaron Robinson
how the fuck did you notice this
Chase Perry
Filename?
Bentley Hughes
what are you gaaaaaaaaaaaaay or something
Easton Carter
I think I'm going to respect the opinion of Glenn Greenwald over you. If you don't mind.
Xavier Mitchell
He's seen the crank
Luis Martin
Corbyn go on cum town
Aaron Russell
does corbyn really have a big sense of humor? I'm not saying he's a stuck up cunt but I'm not sure his personality would make for a good episode
Ryder Howard
I reckon he'd be hilarious after he's got a few drinks in him
Carson Rivera
It seems Chapo became popular and wealthy because they talk about random shit that interests nerds with internet addictions. Maybe they haven't had any decent guests in a while, but they occasionally do useful shit, like telling their listeners to get their hands dirty and follow something like the free David Harvey lectures about Das Kapital volume 1. Perhaps people should try to contact the chapos and tell them to hand out more useful reading recommendations/guides.
Or, you know, a handful of autists could run around Holla Forums screaming about sheepdogs and sleeper cells, but that doesn't seem particularly useful.
They seem to be pretty huge right now, so they can reach a lot of people (which I'm sure Holla Forums is aware of as well and it motivates them to come on here and stir shit up).
Joseph Watson
new ep on black wolf
Julian Sanchez
Fuck that they make 40k a month, those fuck wads can do their own research.
Adam King
actually they make 84k a month
Brayden Smith
It's almost entirely voluntary as far as I'm aware. People give as much or as little as they're capable of.
Adrian Williams
Talking about shitlibs "bending the knee" isn't the same as sudden liking and subservience to those dems. But I'm guessing all your politics is about reverence and subservience to political heroes so I doubt this would ever click for you
Robert Martin
I'm so happy chapo actually talked about Molymeme briefly
Charles King
conservative political cartoons are amazing I'm glad they talked about em
Tyler Morales
Mixed bag for me. I mean it was amusing but at the same time who the fuck thought a podcast about images was a good idea?
Lincoln Phillips
imagine making nearly 6 figures a month and releasing content as sloppy as that cartoon ep
Connor Reyes
dream tbh
Robert Torres
crowdfunding always does this
Isaiah Cooper
This, they should have included a link to an Imgur gallery or something in the description.
Gabriel Green
What dis?
Jack Kelly
Interview with Naomi Klein is up on SoundCloud.
Ethan Murphy
fucking yes
Charles Reed
There's no incentive for them to make quality shit since the money keeps flowing regardless
Owen Wright
In the episode about Mark Fisher, Menaker kind of admitted he doesn't read theory because it makes his brain melt. He also said Mark Fisher's Capitalist Realism was "very much his shit" because it has a bunch of pop culture. I know he is being a little comedic, but I figure he didn't make the comment for nothing.
I think Matt may read a lot though, since he said he was reading like 4 books in a stream. I don't know about Felix.
They are creating hype well in advance Wonder if the Wolff can fit in but if Curtis did it will probably be fine
Samuel Morris
Naomi Klein is a lot more like laid back then I expected, she's pretty cool
Camden Adams
I'm honestly a little caremad over them calling anyone politically uneducated. Their politics are a spitting image of mine when I was a retard 13 year old who was into conspiracy theories.
Jaxson Bell
I mean on the conservative totem pole they're near the bottom even below T_D and like barely beating out unironic, dedicated incels. I wouldn't worry too much about it
Landon Thomas
This is actually mild compared to the meltdown some of them had when they realized Nick is unironically a leftist and not just pulling a long con or some shit
Noah Reyes
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Lincoln Reed
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Andrew Young
How about to a whistleblower/activist who's being sued into bankruptcy by a scumbag zionist?
Guys, everyone, can we PLEASE start spamming the chapos and tell them to donate their patreon bux to Craig Murray? Seriously now. Murray needs saving. CTP can fix this shit.
The CTP hype train has been known to praise Corbyn. Now it can be used to sabotage tories and zionists with overpaid lawyers.
GIVE YOUR BLOODY DOSH TO MURRAY
Robert Hall
Wow it only takes you 10 seconds to understand the ideas of enough authors to recommend one of the most to a wider audience, you're a better man than me that's for sure. Hey did you know you can agitate, organize and education without going through gatekeepers. Don't take my word for it, try it!
Aaron Bennett
*one of them to a wider audience
Camden Young
When half the thread keeps shouting that these guys are noobs who don't read anything at all then why is the bar for suggestions suddenly so high? Are we still talking about the same fucking podcast?
Do you remember the books that got you into leftism? Can you think of one that's easy enough for the random neckbeards that listen to CTP?
You're pretty good at cranking out hilarious jokes so I'm sure you're creative enough to come up with a book title.
James Harris
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Asher Ramirez
Matt and Amber are the two most theory educated, easily. Felix and Will have Leftist sensibilities but I think they're more entry level, overall.
The podcast is fairly pan-leftist though, all together, which I think is what we need here in burgerland seeing the momentum and opportunity we have in this political moment and recognizing that you can't go from basically in a coma when it comes to class consciousness to some kind of extremely organized mass movement/revolution without easing people in.
Eli Kelly
Nick from MDE? Source on this?
Liam Reyes
I'm not doing free labor for Chapo If they want suggestions so bad from me they can pay for my labor with some of this effort Pateron bux, or come lurk for free.
Bentley Jackson
Nick Mullen dude.
Elijah Diaz
anyone else kinda disappointed in the naomi klein episode? she was okay but the lads seemed sub par
Luke Carter
I think it's just that she's not as much "weird Twitter" as they are so they might've been hesitant to fire off their usual humor.
Colton Murphy
Latest pod really made me realize just how much Amber ties the show together. Without her it really does degenerate into Felix, Will, and Matt making twitter jokes and bullshiting, but when Amber's there they get a little more serious and her and Matt can bounce ideas off of eachother and elevate the political discourse a bit.
Asher White
If Amber had been on it probably would have gone better.
Liam Sanders
I remember awhile back Matt was doing a periscope and people asked him if he'd ever go on Discourse Collective, and he said yes. Then one of the Discourse Collective guys actually showed up on the periscope and extended the invitation directly. Does anyone know if this will ever actually happen? What's the status on this?
Cooper Scott
Discourse Collective theory episodes are sorely lacking, almost as if they have done no prep, have no notes, etc. They also need to stop parroting stupid left twitter jokes in place of actual humor, but that applies to all these podcasts. Shit isn't funny. Let twitter be its own thing.
Austin Peterson
I think Will is dropping the ball more than anyone else lately tbh. It's hard to notice when he's doing his job well since he's the "straight man" out of the group but he's supposed to keep the convo focused and on schedule but I guess he's just been high recently or unfocused for some other reason since he seems to not be able to control the convo like he used to.
Jack Peterson
I think the zero books pod is stepping up it's game if you're looking for more theory, but they are sort of one track with their love of Mark Fischer
Michael Sullivan
Matt being in the room really fucked the whole thing up.
Comedy is preditable because life is fucking predictable, and comedy is about the tragedy of life. It all is the same shit said differently down through history.
Trying to classify comedy because the ironic guy is mocking you isn't going to work.
Jayden Gonzalez
Lmao, Logo is the biggest pseud on twitter and his diatribes against "ironycels" are either petty mockery or (mostly) unfounded accusations of bourgeois workerism. He takes them much more seriously than they take themselves which backfires and only ends up making him look pathetic.
Jonathan Wright
…did you just learn the rule of threes and think you've made a big breakthrough here?
Justin Lee
that seems to be the case with most of the broke brained tankies and libs who meltdown over chapo
Adrian Wood
what ones do you think are well founded?
Jeremiah Jones
Agreed, she's the best guest on cum town too. Fucking fight me.
Easton Rogers
He made a tweet once that criticized Chapo for chastising STEM workers for being anti-union and anti-immigration, and while I agreed with the points Chapo made, I think the tone was a bit shite. That was the only episode I think Logo has ever listened to though. In a later episode they revisited this topic more thoroughly though and they did it really well.
Speaking as an engineer, STEMlords really do deserve to be knocked down a peg though
Jordan Watson
I'm a chemical engineering student and I agree.
Anthony Bailey
Did they even read her book? It came across like they didn't have a clue.
Dominic Harris
Well yeah, but the issue that immigrant labor forces pose to the wages of native laborers is complex. Obviously unionizing would solve many issues in this area, but outsourcing and work visas are still issues that need to be dealt with in some way. It sucks because right-wingers come so close to realizing the right answer here, but are held back by their incoherent identity politics.
Levi Anderson
These rightist dipshits recognize the negative effects that a large, desperate foreign workforce has on native citizens but they never try to understand why those negative conditions exist in the first place. You'll never see rightists talking about how neoliberal austerity caused Mexico to become the shithole it is today because they're too caught up in idpol.
Never mind, seems like an aesthete, vaguely right wing, dislikes everybody, makes what seem to be purposefully bold and bizarre claims sometimes.
Xavier Collins
That's a very charitable take on what he is tbh. He isn't an egoist, he's one of those "esoteric nationalist" types who fashions himself as intellectual because he's read some decent lit. His schtick is basically a dressed up and slightly more ""radical"" version of the whole "conservativism is the new counter-culture" shit. He regularly calls people he doesn't like "ironycels", a term with almost no meaning. He literally called Hegel an ironycel for not liking phrenology, the guy is dumb as fuck. The dude buys into all of the lamest ideology, but he's into some cool shit (albeit for really lame reasons). He's worth paying attention to but only to understand the mindset that he has, which is common to people on his side of twitter.
Caleb Sullivan
And by this I mean that he has shitty opinions like: "I really like Johnny Ramone because he was conservative xDDD"
Jackson James
that was a good ass episode
Lucas Evans
are you retarded? felix is clearly making fun of the same exact formula that logo is
Jaxon Russell
who is kantbot?
Carson Cooper
I listened to this from the first time yesterday. Well, I was able to get past the first few minutes for the first time. Pretty good. These guys are funny. I can't tell one nasal voiced dude from the other though.
David Lopez
Kantbot is occasionally funny. Cam is awful all the time.
Christopher Jackson
I dunno why it doubleposted. 8ch has been weird today. Sorry.
Julian Bailey
So where to go now that the Black Wolf Feed got beaned
James Evans
so whats up with the black wolf feed, where do i go now for my epic lukewarm socdem podcast
Thanks, fam. Appreciate the lengths you go to, to deliver us this shit. You really do embody the software pirate spirit. Keep it up.
Benjamin Harris
idgi
Dominic Hughes
RIP black wolf, F to pay respects
Eli Reyes
what do you mean? works for me
Justin Smith
open the link and ctrl-F 145
Sebastian Ward
I mean… what would Bernie do about terrorism?
Ayden Sanders
Change the terrorist system from within.
Matthew Ramirez
I doubt he could actually do anything, trying to downsize the military at best gets you accused of treason and cucking and weakness, meaning you can't win the next election and everything's gone to waste. At worst the generals will pull a coup within the executive branch, meaning everything's gone to waste.
Jeremiah Gray
Not much, but I agree with the Will rant of the last ep where he said that in almost all cases, just doing fucking nothing would be better than what we actually get and would lead to better results for everyone
Kevin Scott
does anyone have the link to the cumtown premium eps
Megan Mccardle is the worst person in the entire chapo universe including all the alt right nazis
Jaxson Richardson
Get an RSS feed reader
Jose Diaz
One of the leftist Twitter people I follow constantly rt's Kantbot and it confuses the fuck out of me every time.
Ethan Bell
Can also copy the link of the latest episode that's in the first line of the body.
Jayden Thomas
The daily shoah has been more intellectually stimulating than CTH recently, which is saying something
Owen Carter
CTH's book of the month is Settlers by j.Sakai.
It was a vote and not foisted by the mods, but does this signal a shift in the culture of the sub?
Samuel Allen
yeah, but not what you think it says
Dylan Flores
meh, depends how people respond to the book. It's totally reasonable to read the book to tear it apart, esp considering how ubiquitous it is on "the left"
Jonathan Rodriguez
Looks like most of the comments are shitting on it so I'm pretty sure it was a troll job by a relatively small group of voters
It's just a couple guys who keep trying to defend it. Also a lot of entry level crypto-liberals who unironically praise black ethnonationalism (black capitalism.)
Austin Green
literally nobody who listens to cumtown is straight
holy shit the chapo subreddit is garbage lately. i know, i know, reddit is shit, but the chapo sub used to be alright. now it's fucking cancer like the rest of reddit. what happened?
Michael Gutierrez
its really liberal lately. the actual episode threads tend to be good.
Juan Bennett
amber would be my ideal gf tbqh
Elijah Perez
Would you an an Adam?
Chase Sanders
It's a really weird mix between liberals who think they're socialists because they want to redistribute wealth by taxing le top one percent and fucking leftcoms. It makes for really weird discussions sometimes. I'm a leninist but it really makes me cringe when people talk big words about communism and shit on that sub considering the actual podcast hosts are not communists but socdems/demsocs.
Xavier Cook
i post as known shitposter vris92. im on a weeklong ban because of gungate
Lincoln White
Just too many people, sadly. That's how everything on the internet works (especially on a place like that where the mods are relatively chill).
Hell even Will who's probably the least radical host has less liberal opinions than some of the retards who listen to the cast. It's great for radicalizing newbies but if someone picks up chapo and never goes further than that it's a guarantee they're stuck being a LARPing dipshit forever.
Lincoln Moore
No offense bro but I think it's more your style than substance. Tons of liberals there obviously but I've seen pro gun people demolish the biggest liberal anti-gun idiots there and have them even get piled on.
Problem is the liberal argument is so baked into brainwashed idiots who just graduated from jon oliver that you have to work 100x harder to make your case. All a fucking uphill battle no matter where you go
Henry Rivera
yeah i didnt really think screaming about lenin and dialectical materialism was going to work but it was funny while it lasted
fuck the sauce, they need zizek for the avengers bit.
Charles Rogers
Isn't logo dedalus 30 something who hails death grips and xxtenctation as the new counter coulture?
Jordan Butler
The new intro raises a serious question whose the biggest weeb on chapo?
Owen Sanders
Hard pass
Cooper Brooks
holy shit
hearing a celebrity like patton oswald talk about how the capitalist dystopia we live in uses shit like meme sauce packets to placate the proletariat through faux-nostalgia gives me hope for the future
William Smith
And his solution is to #resist by voting for neoliberals. This could be a bold new direction for the Chapo/DSA clique.
Nathan White
yeah his politics are garbage, but he's a fucking celebrity, what did you expect? i think the fact that he's even listening to chapo is progress
maybe they'll have more episodes where amber and matt can actually talk theory instead of amber sitting in the back and making a half-joke/remark once every 10 minutes, and people like oswald can absorb it alongside the jokes osmosis-style
Brody Perry
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Camden Morris
YOU LOOKING FOR THAT MONSTER MAN?
Anthony Smith
I'm glad there was pushback when Oswald instinctively defended Obama-era superhero movies and wonderwoman
Mason Mitchell
virgil
Aaron Evans
holy fuck, so good both will's and matt's laughs are unbelievable
Parker James
Nah, I'm not a pathetic sheep that allows my views to not follow some sort of logic. I stay true to my desires, no matter how much I gotta lie to you cucks.
Connor Moore
did anyone listen to Felix pal it up with his fellow neoliberal media elite on Jon Lovett's podcast?
Dylan Murphy
lol what? He made a joke about Dem billionaires being all creepy assholes and made a few jokes about anti-birth control Repubs and that's about it. He had like 5 min total also lol at Lovett being an "elite" of anything
Mason Davis
he was edited out (read his replies) twitter.com/lesaboteur87/status/918156672929009664 why'd they even bring him on? and I do want to hear his bits that made it in, any timestamps so I don't have to endure all the other Pod Slaves America garbage?
Colton Campbell
Trust me it isn't worth it, he goes into a pretty mild (for leftists) critique of the upper class and how it's no surprise that one of them would commit crimes like Weinstein since their entire position in life is predicated on taking advantage of people whenever possible (which got no laughs because the lib audience was terrified that he was criticizing Dem establishment), and then later when they mentioned a quote by Ted Cruz about how condoms don't actually work he quipped "that's why they call him 'Teddy Raw'" and that one got laughs. Those two are the ones that stick out with a few asides that aren't even notable.
Wyatt Sanders
there's a fascinating layer to that story given how virulently racist Lovecraft was
Landon Powell
patton oswalt killed his wife
Christopher Gutierrez
Can I get some link on this? Everyone keeps saying this and I at least want to be entertained by whatever conspiracy is out there about it
Carter Williams
It was a twitter-exclusive thing for a while last year iirc.
Isaiah Richardson
looks like those chapo boys are in trouble again
Jacob Reyes
Good, they should've doubled down on it too and purge some of the festering, tedious, sanctimonious liberals that have spread in their fanbase. Unfortunately this time they made a rookie mistake and actually apologized instead of just brushing it off
Jason Collins
What did they do now?
James Morales
Thumbs up pic next to Bill Cosby's hall of fame star with the caption that was something like "try to take down these statues, libs!"
Henry Taylor
Get in here guys and help fight off the identity politics faggots:
Did not know it was this big of a shit storm lmfao
Luke Butler
In all honesty though who gives a fuck what any woman other than Naomi Klein thinks? Who else is there? They all just go for the idpol because it's easy money and directly benefits them.
John Anderson
It's not worth it. I've been on the sub since near the beginning and it used to just be you can make a fart joke and tell them to sod off and that's it but this is too much fucking effort. Also, I don't think we have the number even if we wanted to
PSS I'd rather just write off the whole experiment instead of risking more reddit refugees here. Trying to save /r/chapo and failing and also compromising this board to do it is a strict lose-lose
Samuel Baker
Seriously though it's a dumb critique since they have women on all the time
Robert Mitchell
Yeah I don't really listen to it much but I know they had Naomi Klein on. It's basically just having a bitch about a minority quota which now you're telling me they probably fill anyway. What is with these cancerous fucks hunting down reddit points all the time? They're worse than tumblr at this point.
Hunter Torres
the tweet wasn't even funny. but lol rape jokes piss of liberals!
it's hilarious you guys have more of a problem with ppl being upset at this than them doing podcasts with Jon Lovett and Patton Oswalt in the same week
Justin Scott
It's bougie liberals who want to enforce conformity in their spaces because of latent guilt that their first world lifestyles are built and predicated on exploitation of others. Real activism would lower their position in the world materially so the only "activism" they have left is to shame others.
No one gives a shit about the joke as much as the dozens of attempted struggle sessions it sparks. There's literally nothing wrong with outreach to liberals and nothing worth saying beyond "dude not funny" over the picture. Any response beyond that is histrionic dribble and you know it
Oh, and this isn't reddit or twitter, you can't get people to come in and downvote us here or load up our mentions. Now go crawl back to your hole.
Isaiah Thompson
Why is it whenever I read a sentence like this I imagine someone absolutely fucking furious at the keyboard?
Jayden Clark
I don't care about any of these no-name twitter denizens or libshit comedians they bring on regardless of whatever apparatus they piss out of tbh.
I just want to say that whichever one of you fags made this thread is hilarious and I appreciate you
Tyler Murphy
Person who made that post literally hates Marx lmao
Tyler Edwards
Search the sub for the survey, it's like 51% ""Democratic Socialists""
Ethan Parker
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Isaac Thomas
Yeah there's like a dozen liberal shitflingers and dozens more lurkers that've ruined a ton of the threads there when it got too big
they warned us about reddit dawg
Asher Torres
Are the points why everything is so cancerous? My intuition is that it says something about the nature of democracy but I'm too tired to write up a screed on it now.
Charles Ross
Actually does make you think. What is the "cause" he is "won over" to? All the things that already suit him, and that he already believed?
Kayden Gomez
RIP the last good leftist subreddit
thought it would at least break 15k before turning into a r/socialism clone
Benjamin Ortiz
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Levi Bennett
/r/completeanarchy is decent excpet for being to prude to support our comrades in the IRA
Josiah Powell
Man they did the entire tabletop game stuff deconstructing lovecrafts racism.
Luke Price
Namefagging is cancerous everywhere. It's the one constant on the internet. Because namefagging is the default on reddit the least you could do is not go out of your way to be a "personality" but some pompous douchebags can't even handle that
Kevin Gomez
is this the end of chapo? AND the Jared Fogle Innocence project?
Samuel Powell
I unironically want to snap the fingers of every woman respecter in that thread.
Jose Morris
lel, the first thought that popped in my mind is the "snap to agree instead of clapping" thing people do at lefty meetings irl and I thought this was extreme irony
Brayden Hill
If we're lucky they lose enough "fans" that we don't have to hear from tedious indignant finger waggers like this as much anymore
Leo Rivera
Ha, the equivalent of that we have here is jazz hands at the students union. They're mocked by everyone for it.
Carter Adams
Chapo ought to know to avoid rapes jokes honestly. Just leave it, The people who care the most about cultural battles are also the ones who fucking hate them, and the left-democrats don't have the fraction of discipline or loyalty needed to survive a serious scandal. You can see from how the "casting couch" went from a widely understood synecdoche for Hollywood to a taboo, triggering phrase in the space of a week how quickly the winds can change direction. Just play it a little safer.
Jacob Powell
The only actual solution is to be outright hostile to these people at all times.
Nicholas Garcia
I'm more upset that the LA D.S.A people are trying to trigger a "special election" to oust their co-chair over this. If we concede this point then it basically leads to an atmosphere where it's acceptable to say that any involvement or engagement with "problematic" left people is worth ousting from the most prominent left org in the US. I don't feel like having to deal with every dipshit having a meltdown over someone who retweeted Felix once demanding their local chairs be removed at once.
Agreed. This is a non-event and everyone pushing it after today (there's always some people who will just go with the initial crowd no matter what) should be entirely dismissed at every turn.
Elijah Jackson
My favorite part is all the left wing podcasts that rode chapo's coattails after it got big and begged members of chapo to come on their show dog piling them calling them unfunny and excellent
Ian Scott
*problematic
Luke Gray
Excellent? Any names of people who did this?
I could see people being angry at the Chapo "millionaires" even tho they themselves have worked harder and all thaat gettin angry
Evan Clark
Honestly these ideological bankrupts have had their chance for the last ten years and all they've done is fucking blow it time and time again. As some other poster said they just want to get wanked off by each other and not actually change anything because that would impact them economically, so they're subconsciously wrecking everything they touch. They need to be purged with extreme prejudice at every opportunity.
Excellent is a wordfilter for probIematic
Nicholas Perry
Not that I'm tossing Chapo under the bus here but we should definitely be boosting more podcasts for this reason. The guys can't have the weight of being "the whole left" in the media and this is what happens when they're put in that awkward spotlight. The zero books guy is especially good, just wish he had at least one other guy with him as a regular.
Jack Diaz
Michael and me is good as hell
Gabriel Baker
Srsly wrong is another great podcast that doesn't get nearly enough love
Anthony Foster
It's already happening. Check out this dipshit who's leading an online dogpile on the LA branch, realized that he made a mistake, and then said that the fact that the post he's complaining about predated the "incident" means he's "actually even more right".
Christian Reyes
Boosting is something leftypol seriously sucks at.
wat
Jaxon Flores
You mean "Michael and Us" or is there a different one?
Yeah I like them too but I just wish they had a little more energy. Have to listen at 1.25 speed at least
We need more content creators in general. HBomber and ContraPoints are the only left-leaning people on YouTube with high production values but they can only produce so much content.
In order to get more content creators, we need to recruit more people in general. That means shilling the content we already have as relentlessly as possible while trying to drive a wedge among our enemies.
Jackson Green
True, which in turn means not turning into a scared puppy every time there's a challenge and walking away with our tails between our legs. If Trump supporters can boost their guy through "lol yeah groping bitches amirite?" then we should at least be able to tell people to fuck off when they're making a big deal about something that's actually trivial.
Wyatt Baker
see
Brandon White
yeah Michal and Us ofc
Bentley Green
There is hardly any engagement on it and he looks like a literal who.
Andrew Gonzalez
I've been searching for radical podcasts and can never really find any that aren't succ dem or constantly kissing up to bourgies/media people.
Sebastian Reyes
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Juan Garcia
He's not a big online personality but in the interest of giving more info without doxxing he's decently connected in the irl organizing (which is why he has way too many followers for his online engagement)
Levi Torres
Remember when people got mad at Nick Mullen and then all the hot Democratic Cops of America chicks started posting their tits to get people to shut the fuck up. Good times hopefully they come save us again
Jayden Bennett
This was actually 3D chess by the dry boys to get more nudes
As much as this person is pretty much the living embodiment of the galaxy brain meme, they seem even more of a "literally who?" than this guy
Mason Powell
pretty much all of the discourse collective crew
Dominic Bell
Zero books isn't perfect but it's definitely to the left of most other pods. He had Contra on and lightly debated against idpol on it from a left perspective for a good portion of it, was pleasantly surprised
Connor King
Considering when you type their name into google it immediately throws "something awful" after it I imagine they're some goon.
Yeah, I was just looking around. Still a more interesting twitter than the other retard.
What the fuck is wrong with Americans? I think they need to be dragged out of the first world kicking and screaming until they're surrounded by complete fucking misery otherwise they'll never get their shit together. They're a baying mob of bawling infants.
Ryder Bennett
It's not even a first world thing right? Like at least in most European countries there's the spark of class consciousness buried deep somewhere. But with burgers they're in tune to identity issues and nothing but, and even the best leftist figures will fall for it if they don't stay vigilant. It's like a fucking disease.
Joshua Martin
Gross, though anyone that made that baby cry gets at least a little bit of sympathy from me
Jackson Watson
I'm not saying it's a first world thing, I'm saying being removed from it to the point it's a backwater third world shithole is the only thing that will sort them out. Not that it will matter by that point.
Brandon Ward
genuinely can't tell if you're talking about the chapo guys or their critics
Caleb Diaz
Such is the burden of being a reddit refugee.
Jace Gonzalez
Pithy, but telling jokes on the internet doesn't destroy anything, even metaphorically
Christian Gonzalez
All this incident has done is convince me Americans are possibly the most unfunny and humourless people on the planet. Not only can they not take a joke, but they don't even get the joke to begin with.
Benjamin Watson
I mean, after the Germans, obviously.
Dominic Richardson
It rules that the largest socialist organization of the last 70 years in the US is going to be destroyed by a podcast
Hudson Gonzalez
thats different because reasons or something. hell, the podcast itself is named after a mexican drug lord and mexican cartels commit sexual violence all the time. this whole thing is stupid
Sebastian Sanchez
Spoilers: It's the slow news day.
Andrew Allen
The absolute state of the Americans.
Xavier Thompson
I cannot believe people are still nursing these beefs from fucking LF. Jesus Christ.
Grayson Barnes
Meant to reply to this.
Christopher Jackson
LF?
Caleb Murphy
twitter.com/ShutUpAndrosky/status/918533504492642304 Wow look at all those good faith replies. Which is why I always say, never fucking apologize. It's the ONE good lesson to take away from Trump and the alt-right and the left still doesn't fucking understand. Hell, the one time the alt-right really got BTFO recently is when they were forced to apologize and then shamed each other back into obscurity
Noah Howard
Preaching to the choir. When hbomb was being pressured into apologising we were all hoping he wouldn't. When he did r/soc attempted to get him to partake in their "babbies first blackmail" by leaving himself open to more and more requests until they felt satisfied. Luckily he wasn't enough of a faggot to actually go further than the one time. Liberals need to be mercilessly bullied and mocked, and their faux outrage dragged out for all to see.
Aiden Young
it's more ridiculous that LF people are in positions of influence, but in light of a reality tv show presidency fueled in part by gamer and weabo reactionaries, maybe not that crazy in this timeline.
Colton Hughes
wuz CTH cointelpro all along?
Carson James
Right, everyone knows how libs react but for some reason few leftists have made the connection that apologizing itself is unforgivable weakness in that situation. In fact, the smoothest I've ever seen pulled off is ironically by the chapo boys back when nick was under fire when they all collectively said "whatever dude" and shrugged it off. And that was that, a week later no one remembered or cared outside of the libs that are mad at him 24/7 anyway. So it's even more frustrating to me that they took the bait and apologized this time
It's all cointel all the way down comr8. Welcome to the left
David Lewis
A political "subform" on SA that was created before the 2008 election. It was designed to have almost no rules or moderation and quickly turned into a furious honeypot/discussion board for, somehow, leftism and not nazism. The community eventually collapsed and the board was closed after getting the secret service called over an ironic joke (the SS was probably "tipped off" by someone harboring a grudge, because at that point LF was fully dysfunctional and almost dead.)
Anyway more than a few prominent up-and-commers posted there, some under different names, and apparently there is still a seriously aggrieved group of people that is waiting in the wings to take advantage of any opportunity to kneecap someone who made them cry way back then.
"I told you you'll be sorry! You brought this on yourself!"
Hudson Bennett
Idk, I liked the way Hbomberguy did it, where he apologized sincerely and then ignored it entirely after that. The witchhunt eventually died down and all of the shitty red liberals eventually forgot and calmed down.
Dominic Cox
It's getting a little bit pathetic only leftypol has realised apologising is the real crime. Get a fucking brain, internet.
Ayden Walker
Ah, the classic woman respecter and latent rapist mindset.
Logan Sullivan
Hbomb would have been better not being a pious fuck and pandering to red liberals with feminism to begin with. When reality starting pouring in rapidly through his internet connection he realised that the world was far more complicated than doing what looks good in the eyes of twitter and reddit all the time. The person he doubted was full of shit too, Klaus, I think it was.
Camden Taylor
I can't tell if you're trying to be ironic but it's absolutely true that most people in callout situations like this perceive apologies as little more than admissions of guilt and validation to double down on abuse
Dominic Phillips
I'm not, I'm the first person that brought it up.
Grayson Cooper
Fair enough, I've been on twitter too long and have shitlib voice permanently etched into my brain
Kayden Phillips
Won’t somebody PLEASE think of the liberals ;___;
No movement with vitality ever kowtowed to these little fucking whiners, how the fuck people can pretend this is a matter of dissemination is a mystery to me
There is not a movement alive with good optics to these keyboard warriors, you will fucking flounder just getting them to look elsewhere for their daily dose of misery
If we need these liberal shit‐for‐brains to get something done then god fucking help us
The real tragedy is that as a bong the joke cracked me up to no end.
David Young
LEFTYPOL STRIKES AGAIN!
Sebastian Foster
Doesn't he know that using m-ron is ableist?
Chase Turner
Who the hell let /r/Socialism into /r/ChapoTrapHouse? Someone send those faggots Cum Town clips to have heart attacks to
Carson Wilson
That's where you wrong Lassalle, you Jewish nigger.
Gabriel Bennett
Lol they already had a cumtown struggle session last week. The sub grew too fast and, being reddit, the /r/socialism crowd infiltrated with the migration wtf I'm against immigration now
Asher Rodriguez
Who the fuck let these struggle sessions get posted anyway? They should be grounds for a permanent ban the moment one is made.
Henry Ross
Being anti-gun is LITERALLY racism
Ethan Wilson
The only reason the sub was ever good is that the mods took a hardline stance against banning people for "saying the wrong thing" and just let the people decide what was good/bad. Which worked fine when the sub was more filled with /ourguys/ but now…
Isaac Russell
FUCK a big tent, we don’t need these misery addicts
Appealing to these invertebrates is a losing strategy
Charles Sanchez
Reminder that this is… ugh… the "offending" tweet, to make a pun… not that this situation is one to make light of :sick_face:
Mason King
the struggle sessions are good and a joke in themselves, fuck off
Dominic Hall
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Eli Sanders
Wrong.
Asher Watson
Agreed. Idpol libs need to be purged, not appeased.
If they apologise on the pod I'm fucking done with Chapo.
Jeremiah Martin
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Lucas Taylor
My bet is on hbomb light "my bad" and then never mention it again. But I agree that if they make a big deal out of it it's a super bitch move
David Lopez
You guys do realize that women and people of color care more about their respective IDpol issues than they do about Marx or Proudhon? Neoliberals honestly offer them a lot more than edgy podcast bros.
Levi Butler
Honestly this is a good thing for the hosts. They're only good when they're the "heel" for liberal shitheads and they were starting to lose their edge
Lincoln Bennett
i'm saying they're a joke because an actual struggle session would involve physical whippings
Cameron Martinez
Care more about my class than my race/what gets my dick hard tbh. Neolibs don't offer us anything other than the chance to see someone that looks like us become a billionaire.
Nolan Baker
LMAO
Carson Jackson
Turns out, you can't :(
Lincoln Hill
lmao corniest mediocrities on the planet
Jaxson Hernandez
Chapo will become a really generic liberal podcast if they keep giving in to what their stupid audience wants
Lincoln Gomez
Everyone give Citations Needed a chance. It played automatically after a Chapo episode on Soundcloud the other day, and I was immediately hooked. It's by Adam H. Johnson and some other dude, and it's relatively new.
It's not comedy though. I don't even think Adam is capable of humor.
Nicholas Taylor
just a total coincedence that half the struggle sesh posts are people who never seem to have listened to an ep
Henry Diaz
Their last episode on Meme Harris and his band of retards was amazing, but I agree it's not exactly a Chapo replacement.
Andrew Murphy
No man, audiences change with time, particularly audiences for left-wing shit because there's not a lot of ready-made leftists around to keep these things going. Same shit happened with Jacobin, they can't praise a fucking communist anymore without tons of readers protesting it in their comments section.
Parker Myers
where was the rape joke though?
Carson Cook
CALL OUT CULTURE IS NOT BUILDING A MOVEMENT A LOT OF ACTUAL WORKERS AND POOR PEOPLE ARE VERY VULGAR FUCK LIBERALS
Aaron Adams
Are there any podcasts that aren't hosted by comfy media people? Like legit prole working class people who podcast on the side.
I need some real subversive shit that isn't just snarky commentary on mainstream news. Like real anarchists, MLMs, etc would be good.
Jace Gomez
I think we're seeing this reaction because for a lot of these people Chapo is their politics rather than just being a vulgar comedy podcast enjoyed on the side. I mean for fuck's sake, these guys are best friends with cum town. You should expect crass, tasteless jokes from this particular show. They aren't diplomats or theorists and if you want serious outreach you should join or form an organization. Railing against some brooklyn hipster jokemen for a slightly off-color (compared to their usual material) joke is seriously worthless.
Connor Jones
Street Fight Radio? I'm pretty sure they're legitimate communists as well as being working class punk rock idiots that do a lot of drugs. They aren't as witty as Chapo but they're a lot closer to the ground imo
Jayden Cooper
lmao no, real legit prole working people don't fucking podcast because 1. they don't have the time to and 2. no one is going to hire someone who engages in communist propaganda as a side gig. So yeah, most podcasters are people already in the world of journalism or entertainment moving to a new medium.
Also grow the fuck up and stop thinking Socialism is prole identity politics.
On a happier note, the premium live ep is pretty good.
Ryder Hall
juxtaposing the back to basics irreverent banter of the new ep to the humorless reddit dipshits working themselves up into a frothing fury over a joke they didn't understand is its own surrealist humor in a way
Carson Young
Could someone give me a rundown of all the drama? I've been out of the loop.
Christopher Reed
see
Jordan King
So they called out the hypocrisy of liberals not shitting on Cosby but losing their minds over Harvey Weinstein? What's the issue here?
Joshua Perry
Oh lol, I thought I could just link you to the "offensive" tweet and let you fill in the blanks on the impotent lib hysteria derived from it. Everything from hand wringing about "rape-adjacent jokes" to unironic "this is why visible straight cis white men are bad" takes. Stay far, far away if you like your sanity.
On the bright side it seems that the anti-PC crowd (barely) won out in the subreddit in the end but it took like 20 struggles session threads, and was just illustrative of why reddit is bad in general. It's not a bug, it's a feature.
Jeremiah Harris
they did a cosby joke that didn't land well enough to overcome the "too soon" timing. There's interesting criticism and analysis, but also liberal opportunists using it to try and paint the whole left as brocialist(stupid). Other opportunists decrying any acceptance of criticism as showing weakness(also stupid)
Parker Myers
Leftists call out people all the time that's what leftism is about.
Kevin Wood
kek
Jeremiah Hall
I'm still failing to see where the outrage is coming from. The outrage should be directed towards those that are willing to give Cosby's rapes a pass because of the color of his skin.
Also, I inferred that this was the point they were trying to make just by taking a 2 second glance at the offending tweet. Anyone who is distorting this into rape apologia or victim blaming is willfully doing that distortion on purpose or is just dumb as a fucking bag of rocks.
Jacob Green
We are talking about the /r/socialism crowd here so…
Chase Morales
I'm starting to understand why Mark Fisher offed himself.
Nolan Mitchell
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Carter Cooper
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Ryan Fisher
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Jacob Russell
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Tyler Gonzalez
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Aiden Gomez
I think these tweets are very helpful to people here who don't understand real solidarity
Dylan James
WHAT THE FUCK ARE THESE PEOPLE EVEN MAD ABOUT? This is substantially less edgy than the fucking Jared Fogle innocence project and yet they got significantly less pushback for that
Xavier Edwards
Jared fogle is funny. Bill cosby is not.
Christian Smith
Wow they'll give any retard a blue checkmark these days huh?
Brody Phillips
lol wait you think these tweets are good? Fuck off back to whatever hellhole you crawled out of.
Wyatt Hill
because Jared Fogel shit was just children being abused, who cares right. this is about WOMEN and women are fragile, sacred creatures who will withhold their precious love from you if you don't do your chivalrous duty and hold their collective feelings at the forefront of your mind with everything you do.
Kevin Robinson
The women protector brigade really is out in full force
Aiden Wilson
Why are you using retard? Also, what's wrong with these tweets exactly?
There's no picture of them with fogle's pants or anything. They went to cosby's star and took a picture. Image is everything.
Ian Rogers
*nods respectfully towards you*
Liam Morris
To flush you out
Isaiah Martinez
Fuck off
Wyatt Davis
Those tweets were godawful moral grandstanding and handwringing. The only crux of the argument is "men need to stop talking" and "edginess is bad and harmful". Fucking liberal garbage
Jeremiah Ward
Flush who out? Are you on safari or some shit?
Great convo. Leftypol's best and brightest
Jaxon Fisher
Fucking good. Why are you defending Cosby?
Jason Roberts
Back to reddit, troll
Alexander Foster
Why is edginess leftist? Edginess is the bastion of liberals (south park, etc.). And moral grandstanding is a pejorative that is made to shut down debate. Liberals call leftists "puritans" all the time for simple demands. Are you really have the much of a lack of self awareness?
I'm not. Stop projecting
Cameron Morales
We both know you're not from here. Why subject yourself to such probl.ematic brocialists? Better for everyone involved if you went somewhere else like /r/socialism. Or just continue ruining the chapo subreddit
Austin Butler
The joke was at Cosby's expense. Stop defending Cosby
Logan Johnson
I can see how MAYBE someone would construe this as them defending Harvey Weinsten, but Christ, even that is a hell of a stretch.
Also, how's this for irony: the whole reason Bill Cosby's rapes came out in the open instead of just being a quiet rumor is because of Hannibal Burress had an ironic stand-up bit about it that went viral.
Kayden Flores
I've been here for a long time. Remember that vlinterflamma hot leftists thread? I started that and it lasted for months.
Intent doesn't matter. If it offends people who are marginalized then it is appropriate to listen to their side without getting defensive.
Justin Flores
Postmodernism was a mistake.
Jason King
Yes it does
Bentley Harris
They've also done cosby jokes before. Its the timing. Coming off this shit of confronting sexual assault and then doing a sloppy joke like that shows a certain insensitivity to the issue. I'm not saying you have to agree with it, it seems like basic empathy that even if the joke appears harmless to you, from the perspective of those directly affected its alienating.
And again, there are a lot of bad faith libs taking it and running off a cliff but there's a central criticism that sticks. End of the day they're going to apologize and everyone's going to move on next week so i'm not sure why everyone here acts like it's incomprehensible.
Charles White
correction the hot leftists women thread lasted for a month. Not "months".
Jeremiah Cruz
Yeah and that was a garbage thread too. Pretty telling that you're the token women respecter
Nolan Gutierrez
So the war on drugs was designed to make america a better place right? Yet, it has made america and even more horrible place despite its stated intentions right? It's almost like the intentions of an action don't matter if it leads to shit.
Carter Collins
I'm a woman and I wasn't offended, stop being offended on my behalf
Zachary Lewis
the fact that whole (pretty lame, but still) joke rests on the implicit comparison of Cosby to confederate generals whose statues are being taken down might be a little too subtle for our friend
Luke Young
Are you braindead or do you really think they "meant well"? Seriously, what liberal hellhole did you crawl out of?
Jaxon Morris
Where is the schism? I'm not understanding your point?
Ryder Perez
That thread was unironically more inherently misog.ynist than anything the chapo boys have said or done. We didn't have a lame-ass struggle session over it of course, but it's pretty telling that you're the one up in arms now
Christopher Roberts
You can not be offended if you want. I can point to other women that are. Why do you think your voice is more important than the multitude of others voicing their concerns?
Alexander Morales
The intent of the war on drugs was never to make America "a better place" i.e. free from destructive drugs. It was designed to stock prisons with a slew of unpaid laborers/slaves. Please stop being obtuse.
Jose Sanders
I don't think any voice is important based on stated identity, you're the one demanding that it be with naked idpol
Colton Ortiz
If you find images of the female body inherently woman hateric and are anti sex (which is very second wave feminism) then fine. That's your deal. I'm talking about making light of rape. That thread was not about hurting women.
Liam Williams
What? Is caring about other people bending the knee to idpol now?
Adam Reed
I love how they all apologized but are still being inundated with bad faith replies/takes.
No amount of ideological purity from """the dirtbag left""" will ever be good enough for hand-wringing identitarian liberals, so stop fucking kowtowing to them.
Leo Long
Neither was this joke and yet here you are. And no, objectification of women isn't a "2nd wave exclusive" issue, and is absolutely related - under feminist critique - to you and other "women protecter's" need to speak on behalf of those whose full agency they don't respect. I'm only applying your own standards. If you can't live up to them, perhaps it's time to reconsider your values.
Jace Ramirez
The government did not. but all of the people in common society that think the war on drugs is necessary do. That's why it still has popular support because people belive in it sincerely at face value. If they did not it would have been gone a long time ago.
Thomas Anderson
No one has went out of their way to make women uncomfortable
Julian Price
The continuation of the war on drugs isn't at all predicated on the opinion of the populace, and you are incredibly naive.
Brody Jackson
sure looks like "sex postivity" to male allies just translates to getting to moralise about respecting women and be the One Good Man while still getting to drool over tiddy pics
Christopher Ramirez
This makes no sense. As I said before intent does not matter. Women are visibly upset. Why do you think the Democratic Cops of America guy in the picture is in hot water? How am I not respecting thier agency. The number one rule of allyship is to stand up to other men. Women can't do it by themselves.
Are you anti sex then? What is your point about liking tiddy pics? How is being anti rape contradictory?
Andrew King
If anything it was a defense of women, a plea to liberals to not let Cosby get away with his abhorrent crimes towards women while (rightfully) excoriating Weinstein for his crimes.
Nuance is completely incompatible the liberal's modus operandi. All they know is reactionary credulity.
Sounds like a good reason to not believe in things at face value then - like taking the face value of the tweet as a defense of rape, for instance.
Ryan Davis
Societal pressure got Richard fucking Nixon to implement affirmative action. Societal pressure can make governments change policy.
Josiah Murphy
I know their reasoning but I deal in material reality like a good little marxist. A lot of people are upset and good intentions with bad outcomes don't matter.
Bentley Ramirez
Now grown ass adults can't even stand up for themselves and need a man to defend their honour when they get upset.
Michael Wright
They made a joke involving sexual assault People directly involved in sexual assault experienced it as trivializing and insensitive, especially because of the timing They deleted and apologized The End.
Who gives a shit that they're still being inundated with bad faith? Taking into consideration the views of others isn't kowtowing to them and it's not just identitarian liberals making criticisms. Your perspective here is strange because it should mean that the chapos themselves are liberals seeing as they're demsocs amateurs.
Aiden Rogers
And you were wrong Who cares? Women are also "visibly" defensive. Reducing an argument down to an identity is idpol as fuck Because VC handwringing is part and parcel of engaging with red liberals who think they're left but just want to consolidate their power in whatever leftist space they can Made me think
Jack Wilson
Get a load of this fucking moron.
Thomas Edwards
Imagine being this adamant that you're in the right and have the CORRECT(TM) feminist opinion and not understanding basic feminist critiques of objectification. Admit it, your entire argument is that you personally see more women against this than not and decided that this was enough proof that your argument was sound
Dominic Torres
You have no idea what materialism is
Julian Brooks
you don't understand solidarity do you? Have you even read any of the female responses about Weinstein? Most of them just say speak up when you hear males doing shitty things.
Landon Carter
Good argument.
Cameron Butler
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Cooper Johnson
Says the guy defending the potential ousting of a D.S.A cochair and the formation of an "anti-dirtbag" action group to root out association with Chapo or Chapo-adjacent people. No, your defense of shitty, blatant power grabbing and excommunicating witchhunts are recognized and not accepted.
Isaiah Kelly
So does this mean we now can't joke at the expense of rapists? Because the implication was that Cosby is a piece of shit that doesn't deserve a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame (insofar as anyone does in the first place) and that liberals can't understand this because of their shit ideology. I think it's the latter part that you liberals find most offensive, tbqh.
Angel Morales
Holy fucking shit how liberal can you get. Here's a hint for you, the vast majority of people are liberals. If your argument hinges on "X identity mostly thinks this so to support them you must think the same" you will ALWAYS end up on the side of liberalism, even if that identity was "white men" believe it or not.
Nicholas Williams
There is no correct feminist critique . Why do you think feminism is something you can solve for everyone? There is no one size fits all. Objectification is bad if you don't value that person for them being a human. Just because you like the way they look doesn't mean you see them as purely a sex object.
Carter Myers
t. guy whose claim to fame is starting Female Objectification for the Male Gaze: The Thread
Jaxon Murphy
The majority of feminists do not agree with your take on objectification
Aiden Wood
Why do you assume I'm reading nothing but liberal women? Maybe leftist women are saying the same thing which is why chapo and the Democratic Cops of America guy are in trouble. MAKES YOU THINK RIGHT???
Jeremiah James
kek, this guy really is a parody of himself
Jack Miller
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Connor Gonzalez
Most self-proclaimed "leftists" are red liberals, especially in a country as classcucked and identity focused as the US. We're fighting an uphill battle and if you don't understand this you'll be swept up in aimless liberalism forever.
Austin Scott
Why are you anti sex? It's patriarchal to see women as sexless beings you just have to tolerate. Your lapsing into conservative christianity just to make a point.
Caleb Allen
Idk, why don't you "ask women" about objectification? We're just a bunch of brocialists we aren't equipped to give you the correct opinion.
Nolan Butler
so class reductionism right?
Blake Morales
Do you even know what any of the words you're using actually mean? Have you actually read ANY feminist theory from the last hundred years?
Robert Sanchez
I'm just trying to help some of my comrades see the light. Maoist insisted on intense self reflections and I think it would be helpful here.
Kevin Peterson
Lol yeah, if there's anything the left needs it's more struggle sessions
Chase Bailey
Does patriarchal society not exist…?
Caleb Russell
It's too bad the "tankie" wing is so full of conspiratorial nutjobs with some personality disorders. This is not a convincing argument that Chapo is a CIA psyop.
Nicholas Nguyen
So introspection is bad now?
Luke Jackson
Do you ever wonder why it is that the only other people so adamant about "class reductionism" are actual nazis? Maybe, just maybe, intersectionality is actually garbage and not marxist in the slightest
Elijah James
For its own sake it's just masturbatory
Joshua Bell
That's not what I asked, nor is it relevant to the context you used the word in.
Have you actually read any feminist theory from the last hundred years? Or was right and you've just eyeballed the ratio of women for/against in your twitter bubble and used that as your metric of what the Good Ally position is to take?
Connor Sanders
Same tbh, every day I inch closer to despair
Joshua Cooper
man, xirxist memes really got weird didn't it
Ryder Murphy
let me guess you took the brown pill
Michael Young
No such thing as "class reductionism." Made up talking point by the far right. A focus on class by default includes a focus on race, as both are inextricable in the development of capitalism in the U.S.
Focusing instead solely on race, undialectically divorced from class, has had disastrous results.
Matthew Perez
Have you actually read any feminist theory from the last hundred years?
Zachary Williams
I'm illiterate
Ryan Bell
What's the brown pill? Is it a scat thing?
Ian Ramirez
Have you actually read any feminist theory from the last hundred years?
Matthew Baker
Based around the amount of shit that come either out of your mouth or when you post I'd assume that you taken the brown pill
Robert Diaz
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Eli Hall
Nowhere did I defend those things.
Make all the jokes you want, why would I stop you? Christ, you're doing some slippery slope shit here. We're talking about a specific instance aren't we? Different conditions produce different outcomes.
Some topics being prohibited in certain spaces is not the end of the world. Watch more zizek youtu.be/ObnBHMzIQ_A
Brandon Brown
Have you actually read any feminist theory from the last hundred years?
Jonathan Campbell
feminist theory gets me rock hard, i tell ya
Easton Myers
this thread is one big struggle sesh
Brody Mitchell
Different user here: of course patriarchy does exist, and it's vital that our politics is also feminist. I just wish that haranguing people over jokes didn't inevitably lead to these crisis (that is, if there was some way for the "incidents" to resolve without the total destruction of the offending party), and I think also that these crisus are driven more by personal grudges, or just bugbears and feelings of annoyance, than genuine necessity. At the heart of it they made an off-putting joke about the fact that a serial rapist is enshrined in American pop-culture, and we gotta be able to accept that even in the context of this cruel humor, the "point" is still that this is wrong.
Gabriel Foster
Why bother when I can just ask what random women on twitter think?
Joseph King
Also, it's okay to think the joke was wrong, but fucking move on instead of relentlessly beating your own allies over it.
Ian Sanders
Yeah. Also I think the problem isn't just the fact the joked about rape, because they joke about Fogel all the time as many people have pointed out. For some reason people react differently to those jokes, and I think that reason is that the image they posted was extremely provocative. You have a gang of men who look like douchebags (an Hawaiian shit unbuttoned to the fourth button… seriously dude) in a ring around Bill Cosby's star, they are giving thumbs up with big shit eating grins on their faces.
Logan White
oh yeah, if it was amber or just a woman making that joke it would have gone over differently. I'm reminded of the reason dave chapelle quit his show when a white producer was laughing at his ironically racist caricature and it made him feel uncomfortable out of the blue after 3 seasons. The sudden uncertainty of how much someone is laughing with you versus at you.
Hunter King
Using this three simple words, any aspiring liberal can now tone police crude dirtbag leftists into submission. This will finally end the reign of brocialism for good, and usher in a golden age of universal "feeling safe".
Gabriel Turner
Josh from Democratic Cops of America LA said that they were “trying to make a statement about how the Hollywood industry has condemned Harvey Weinstein but still leaves Cosby’s star up.”
Funnily enough, the same intent could’ve been communicated via posting the picture of the star, and, well, just saying “why is his star still up? Hollywood doesn’t actually care about stopping abusive structures” or something to that effect.
I’m an under-20 cis, het, white guy. I’m surrounded by this type of bullshit humor that relies on combining edginess and irony & blowing both aspects up as far as you can until it’s feasibly possible to argue that the joke stands for any imaginable point you ascribe to it. It’s fucking horrendous. It’s not clever, it’s not original, and it’s not funny.
It feels like every single man on Earth, from the normiest of normies to the most online Nazi has made at least a dozen jokes just like this. This joke is structurally identical in every possible way to something you’d find on /r/dankmemes or the meninist twitter. When I started realizing caring about other people was good & worth doing, it almost-instantly made me realize that it’s almost impossible to get away from this type of joke/meme. That was why finding Chapo & the online left was awesome — they did care, they were ironic, but they made fun of people that deserved it in a clear way that really obviously gets across the message that this is fucking terrible & you shouldn’t support this, rather than “oh wow, that sure is based of you to post!”
This type of humor has nothing to do with making any actual statement; it’s about masturbating over how desensitized & cool you are for saying transgressive things that are so wrong they Cross the Line Twice. Keep crap like this out of this space, please— it makes it impossible to actually discuss things that matter, or use relevant humor in said discussions.
Cooper Evans
there is nothing quite so dreadful as people who take humour seriously
Jordan Davis
You know you're a shitlib when you have to write 5 paragraphs to express that you hate humor
Matthew Lopez
jesus christ just fuck off and become a cop already
Isaac Edwards
should have done this yesterday instead of apologising tbh
Grayson Evans
the post was bad but way overblown by the same crowd with the same bone to pick. they don't have any interest in making DSoA a more welcoming place, they want to destroy it and destroy chapo so that everyone can join their various radlib and ML sects instead of forming a united front and getting things done
Noah Watson
they can't. the social circles they run in precludes that
Eli Cook
But they didn't used to kowtow at all even when it would've been easy since it was about Nick and not them
Lincoln Brooks
Well their message was obvious, people who are pretending they didn't understand what the intent was are lying, because they are extremely online people too and are never actually operating on "zero irony" and are more than able to contextualize and understand ironic statements in the intended way. Strictly speaking the difference between what they did and what you are suggesting is that one is a somber, literal argument and the other is a joke that makes the argument through ironic subversion.
You are welcome to think the intensely ironic culture you've been born into is a miserable place to live, but it's here and you cannot insist on a return to sincerity. Others have tried, try have failed. You will fail. The only way out of this zeitgeist is through.
Dominic Watson
sam pritchard owns slaves
Leo Sanchez
Have you actually read any feminist theory from the last hundred years?
Logan Butler
Were you intending to respond to me?
Ayden Baker
I saw Leslie from Struggle Session lowkey bitching about them having a Liberal like Oswalt on Chapo, but has he been a dipshit about this too? Thankfully, the Trillbillies haven’t seen fit to comment or boost themselves over something so stupid.
Xavier Green
Felix retweeted this from the Prince of Cummies. Absolute mad boy!
Better than masturbating to how "woke" you are and attacking actual leftists. Fucking liberal vampire shithead.
Charles Barnes
this post is so fucking gay
Samuel Nguyen
That a lot of words for "I like them because they mock things I don't like while other people mock things I like ".
Thanks, leddit pro.
Oliver Thomas
passive aggressive shit response, neck yourself
Colton Bell
Do the people who were mad at them for this realise that they're close friends with Cum Town?
… Which is literally the most vulgar, un-PC podcast imaginable. Nick jokes about raping women and children on nearly every episode.
John Bailey
The offended people weren't after the Chapo boys. They know they're too powerful and are independently funded so there's no way to get them fired.
The aim was always to get Josh to resign from Democratic Cops of America LA. Glad to see the Democratic Cops of America dismantle itself because they take offended Twitter losers way too seirously.
It's pretty good. leftypol could learn a thing or two
Dylan Perez
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Julian Miller
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Joseph Stewart
it really isn't
Nicholas Barnes
it's trash
Cameron Sanchez
The Democratic Cops of America has become the standard socialist group that is made up of humorless bitter people in almost a record time.
Hunter Reed
You are stuck here forever
Jack Ortiz
I mean it's basically something you see written next to gender pronouns on Twitter bios now
John Fisher
Then stop whitesplaining to me and shut the fuck up
Parker Bennett
Whether you like it or not we live in a society where irony is extremely common and is regularly used to make subversive statements through humor. When you say 'oh I can't make those kind of jokes because I actually CARE about people' all I can think is you're a scolding hall monitor with the social skills of the average pepe avi on Twitter.
Angel Thompson
I used to think Molly Klein was maybe right and that Chapo's rise to popularity was because they had shadowy backers but tbh I'm starting to think Cointelpro is trying to tear them apart.
Carson Scott
What do they even want it replaced with? Dated humour of Eton schoolboys fucking around at the BBC in costumes?
I don't even know if COINTELPRO exists anymore. So many of the people you'd suspect of being it have such fleshed out backgrounds and can be checked to see if they're real. It's just America's infestation of liberals finding some new fad to cling on to and giving themselves a feel good rush by being pious cunts as usual.
Joseph Hall
Worse, I feel like all they want is forced self deprecating humor with plenty of awful compound insults. Where Humor exists solely to reinforce things you believe with a certain level of ironic distance. Think Amy Schumer but with more 'sinner' and jokes about how your existence is oprresive in completely hanfisted terms so you don't confuse anyone.
Bentley Davis
Sh!third Lmao forgot about that filter
Lucas Sanchez
What are these? I want someone to pull a Jim Jones on them but I don't think that's what you mean. This autistic obsession of theres with "humour that punches up" is the worst too. If they're so fucking funny why don't they ever have any fucking twitter followers or make anything themselves.
John Moore
You know all those bad liberal comics where the main character calls someone a turdmaster or something to that effect? Those are compound insults the most infamous of course being sh1tlord
Carson Morgan
I don't even disagree with them on that point. They just refuse to have anything do it in a clever way.
Jack Baker
So being moral is bad now? Coooooool
Aaron Smith
Liberals hate amy Schumer you complete idiot
Colton Gonzalez
that video was so gay i watched it and can't donate blood anymore
Connor Clark
That joke was the definition of punching up, the just want proper amount of reverence and submission to the proper decorum and vague idea of "protected groups" at all times
Nathan Sanchez
It hurts user. It hurts.
Mason Thompson
We can't know Bill Cosby's struggle as a POC. We must stand with him against Chapo's chauvinistic attitudes.
David Gutierrez
It's not because I'm still not sure what you were trying to argue. The best I can guess is that I said "intent" but most people apply that to works and not argument where "deconstruction" words people speak as they actually speak then is generally considered a misapplication. I'm in this thread often so please respond with a rephrasing of what you were trying to argue.
Levi Bell
Yes they do. The people who are mad at them have been trying to take them down for a long time, and every single one of them who is refusing to let this go was also trying to create a scandal around their association with Mullen.
William Jackson
Reverse this, for clarity.
Juan Miller
No liberals do not hate Amy Schumer.
Parker Bennett
Lol if Liberals don't like Schumer then nobody does. Unless your point is about specifically black liberals hating Schumer, which is cultural and not ideological
Jeremiah Green
They rose to popularity because people who followed them retweeted them a lot and eventually they made a podcast a bunch of goons liked. Their shadowy backers are just Internet forum moderators. These guys aren't Bana al-Abed. They are just extremely online post-ironic broklynites that made 10,000 tweets a week for years
Brody Thomas
Thinking the CIA is behind trapo trap house is the equivalent of thinking Putin is behind BLM
AHAHAHAHA If you still support Democratic Cops of America after this, kill yourself
Justin Jones
IdPol, every fucking time…
Jason Clark
The word Idpol to this website is like the word cucks to Holla Forums
Nolan Richardson
Not really, fam. Idpol is objectively cancer and has done more to destroy contemporary movements than reactionaries ever could have done. Every socialist who's actually serious about getting shit done, instead of engaging in pointless culture wars on the internet, should reject it
Grayson Richardson
Please lurk more, newfag.
Zachary Johnson
That Twitter account is a right-wing troll, retards. Look closer.
Elijah Barnes
Been here for months you utter retard
That is some ahistorical bullshit. The government has destroyed the left wing more than anything on tumblr you retard
Eli Hernandez
Oh yeah? What about Occupy?
Justin Gutierrez
What about it? It was unorganized. There was no central leadership on purpose and that was its undoing. Honestly it was the perfect argument anarchism
Wyatt Taylor
Occupy failed because it was run by anarchists lol.
Nathaniel Barnes
Idpol didn't just arise in the past few years, it's always existed. Anytime your more concerned with inflating a meaningless property of someone (skin color, gender, heritage, nationality, personal situations, etc.) over class struggle then its idpol. Plenty of minority activist or women's activists groups shit the bed and insist on justice for [insert demographic here] before everyone else, which ends up in progressive stack arguing. The government couldn't drive such huge ideological wedges between left groups if left groups didn't keep dividing themselves over petty shit in the first place.
Ian Morris
The fact that it was derailed by idpol, famalam. Instead of focusing on class struggle and the social problems that actually started Occupy (you know, the banks getting bailouts while regular people were left in the dirt), which might have actually made it a threat to the current system, it got derailed by identity politics and "big tent" issues that had nothing to do with Occupy. Identity politics has done nothing but drain the energy of socialist movements and alienate and ostracise people who actually want social change. It is a purely negative force That doesn't mean we should be "anti-idpol" by being racists or sexists or whatever. It just means we should leave all that shit where it belongs: in the trashcan
Jeremiah Lee
Why are you blaming left groups for this. All those divisions exist because of the structure of the government. You're victim blaming leftists for the divisions the government pushes on people.
Maybe it got derailed by no structure because again it was run by anarchists who tried to implement no central leadership in a capitalist society which is bound to be aimless. Besides don't you want a big tent and more people to come to leftism?
Easton Myers
Yes, I also want "muh small business owners" and women bosses to join my movement about abolishing the present state of things. That shit had no place in Occupy
Grayson Garcia
Why would you let the bourgeoisie in the group. That doesn't make sense. No one is saying that.
Nathan Wright
When you have idpol you get class collaborationist shit like that. There's no point in having a big tent if half the tent is filled with people who don't give a fuck about socialism or capitalism. Occupy was about economic issues, not "big tent" issues.
Owen Ross
It's not hard to kick them out. Just ask them if the workers are exploited and if workers need to seize the means of production. That's why bernie sanders is popular. He's saying you're exploited and everyone jumped on except he got predictably stabbed in the back by the establishment.
Henry Adams
Yeah, except when they take over the movement and start kicking out actual socialists. Just because you can "kick them out" doesn't make them not a cancer to every movement
Xavier Nguyen
What you're saying "bourgeoisie are bad" isn't revolutionary. It's basic marxism. The more people we have in the group the more societal pressure we can put on porkies.
Ian Rogers
Oh no! A hack comedy writer has to resign from a political organizing position at DSoA? The organization is literally falling apart!!!!!!!
lel i should have just said "check the bottom" but I'm an autist that refuses to stop something I started despite it being pointless
Daniel Moore
Top lel. Come on black flag, pipe up. We know it's you.
Matthew Davis
Adam Johnson is usually right. Don't you follow him on twitter
Asher Taylor
faggot you're admitting to using reddit
Charles Bailey
Probably millennial comedians are a bad idea for leadership, rather have an old serious union guy.
Oliver Taylor
Your loss friendo.
Ryan Torres
weird left twitter needs to start signal boosting actual labor and organizing vets. there has to be a boomer with the viscerally earnest appeal of Trump tweets on the left.
Sebastian Stewart
BRING BACK FETONTE
Adrian Morales
The call out culture addicts are trying to ruin Virgil’s life now based solely on third hand anonymous claims and a pastebin ripped from a conspiracy forum.
Lmao
Don’t worry guys, repeatedly saying you aren’t accusing someone while signal boosting someone without any evidence is not accusing someone of serious allegations.
Carson Harris
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Grayson Hall
Lmao this didn’t “pick up steam” until this guy started spreading it.
It’s great that people trying to build their “brand” can try and ruin someone’s life. Hope Scott’s handful of new subscribers are worth possibly ruining Virgil’s life.
Mark Fisher was right about these people. Jesus christ.
Aaron Murphy
People who live in glass houses…. Chapo reeks of bourgeoisie and we all know how perverted the are.
Evan Reed
to anyone who may find themselves in a conversation about this accusation: 1) the accusation arose from a random user on a discord server 2) the 'source' for these claims is claimed to be dead it's (obviously) fake
Owen Parker
how do you know they are dead?
Colton Lewis
Haha oh my god I am so retarded I just realised it was a big list.
Travis is pretty fucking creepy though.
Joseph Rivera
Fuck the rule of law
BURN THE WITCH BURN THE WITCH
YOU CAN'T QUESTION OUR MASS HYSTERIA
Evan Green
More people are defending him than anything
Hudson Taylor
It really is fucking mass hysteria. It's saying you can't be criticized for being hysterical, so putting yourself in the position to get hysterical over fabrications.
Jacob Turner
Yeah I'm being defensive of Virgil because this is obvious bullshit.
Dominic Parker
Haha, they've all deleted it. Scott and Duke.
Benjamin Perry
So you agree with me that it's just a cultural difference between white and black liberal culture and not an ideological one
Jayden Evans
15 year old guy here, Amber gave me a handjob after the Democratic Cops of America convention in Chicago
Wyatt Ross
5 year old here. Matt ate me out.
Kevin Carter
True, I was 7 when Mat sucked my dick twelve times. We have to stop these horrible beasts.
Brayden Brooks
That's one way to say, "I got caught trying to spread malicious, unsubstantiated lies in order to build my popularity on Twitter."
Landon Bennett
That's phrased in such a way that it's still true. Fucking stubborn little spoiled brat.
Joshua Green
i don't know how to say this but when i was in hospital last week being born Felix walked in just after the nurse cut my umbilical cord
he grabbed me from the nurse, stuck a finger up my arse and spun me round like a basketball
Jaxson Nguyen
Somebody harass this fuck
Wyatt Hughes
Chapo Traphouse once complimented my sausage buns after I gave him a sausage bun. I was over the age of consent at the time but it's worth keeping in mind.
Andrew Sanders
Liberals love calling out white feminism. Even white ones. That's what jezebel is built off on. Being white but also being "woke".
Owen Jackson
Who is this person? I'm pretty sure they groped me when I was 15.
Isaac Powell
the original source said so themself
as you can see here it's just some retard who thought they could get free attention
David Butler
Can someone do a fake callout of them lmao
Carson James
Did some investigative work and look what I found.
Owen Peterson
you're fucking retarded
Andrew Wood
Guys this is really hard for me to say but I was drunk one night in Brooklyn and Nick Mullen and Stavros Halkias abducted me and raped me in my mouth and ass simultaneously and then they made me watch Nick play Battlefield for an hour while Stav forcibly ate my ass.
Evan Bell
Woah……unreal
I always knew they were a little strange
Brody Cruz
To be fair I'm pretty sure they just straight up told that story on the last pod
Dominic Brown
when i was 9 years old felix told me that if your hand is bigger than your face you have cancer and then he pushed my hand into my face when i tried to check. someone needs to stop these monsters before its too late.
Daniel Nguyen
OK, let me be clear that I am not indicting or accusing anyone, but a couple years ago a fucked up bug that eats dust named Adam Friedland demanded to eat the lint out of my jeans pockets in the back of a Brooklyn bar. I still haven't recovered from the trauma. Signal boost to save a life.
Noah King
When I was 3 and a half years old Kurt Eichenwald put on an octopus costume and told me it was penis inspection day
Lucas Walker
This one's real though
Bentley Butler
Wow I'm not one for callout culture but the boys definitely went too far with this one
Isaiah Mitchell
🤔
Brayden Hill
Yeah I'm going to trick all these people into believing they've molested one another
They're too stupid and irresponsible for me to resist
Jaxson Green
Do they actually care if they can't piggyback onto a big name? Most of them are irrelevant.
Isaac Morgan
Solid praxis
Ryder Anderson
just got this sent 2 me from my anonymous source wtf
Joshua Cruz
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Josiah Richardson
These people are reprehensible
John Nelson
Someone with a twitter, risk your reputation for me and call him out
Anthony Powell
I want to shove these people into a fucking wood chipper so fucking badly
John Bailey
Whats wrong with what it said?
Hudson Gray
Felix didn't do shit this is hilarious
Josiah Peterson
Person who made the pastebin is doubling down
Brody Long
Alright I'm making an alt just to harass this clown with gore or some shit
Jayden Brooks
Everyone needs to mass report this bitch for targeted harassment
Ok niggers nice work but chill the fuck out and just hold your cards until they're needed. Premature harassing will just make it perceived that """"someone"""" set his fans on her which means he HAS to be guilty
Chase Ross
Nah fuck this bitch to hell
Jacob Foster
Could you please not dox someone for no reason because they accuse your precious podcast host of being a nonce? Stop being such a chud.
Parker James
No you silly faggots
Charles Morris
Who cares about this bitch? It's about not backfiring on the person you're trying to defend in the first place
Anthony Wood
Throwing around accusations like this is career ruining, so I think it's entirely justified
Levi Richardson
I'm not trying to get her in shit, I'm trying to ascertain the trufax.
Hudson Cruz
…and? You know the story is just made up bullshit right? Like the location won't actually corroborate with a real life place that abuse happened
Christopher Ward
love it
you nigger faggot kike lovers will soon get the gas
How does it feel that the right is winning the culture war, kike?
You're attempt at anuddah shoah has made you the enemy of the people. You're jewish lies are done. You can only exploit "muh slavery" and "muh 6 gorillion" for so long you tumblr SJW faggots
Brayden Collins
Yeah, it really makes sense that Virgil would have a cross country love affair with an underage girl.
lmao
Colton Phillips
Nobody in her life. It's her actions. I'm reporting both their accounts for targeted harassment and I suggest everyone here do the same.
You can presume Virgil's innocence without doxxing the accuser and making them a victim you fucking idiot.
Lucas Hill
Wasn't she meant to be deddo?
Jaxon Murphy
This.
Juan Collins
Nah. Fuck these thots
Justin Sanders
So much for the numale left!
Angel Rivera
You're sounding pretty Reddit now, actually tbh
Jack Lewis
Who the fuck said that
Jose Hall
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Zachary Long
wew lad you have to go back there's no room for you here
Eli Perry
Did someone tip you off about this board's existence
Ethan King
awesome
Robert Brooks
Yeah /lit/ did. Did you reply to the wrong person?
Elijah Gonzalez
You're doxxing the wrong person you fucking idiot, that person is one of the pastebin creators. The supposed girl hasn't been named. Stop being a faggot.
Camden King
Nope. Do you mind explaining what you meant? This is completely about Virgil, he wouldn't go on a cross country trip to fuck some dumb 16 year old slut
These accusations are complete and utter bullshit and allowing them to occur encourages the behavior itself. It shouldn't be allowed and their should be immediate blow back for thinking you could try to do this shit.
So what are you even trying to say.
Ayden Baker
Listen you stupid nigger, it was said earlier that the girl is from Rockford, IL. This girl is from Rockford.
Almonds activated.
Lincoln Davis
You're such a faggot. You're just like the SJWs, looking for someone to harrass over their "problematic" behavior
Nolan Davis
It would have been easier if it was the old days and these people were still begging for money on paypal
Dominic Smith
Accusing someone of a crime is actually pretty terrible behavior, wouldn't you agree?
Anthony Scott
How does harassing someone over it make things any better though?
Luke Clark
People should have consequences for their actions.
Nolan Howard
I meant that I agree Virgil did nothing wrong, so making a fuss about what amounts to nothing right now is just going to create a victim who can use her newfound victim narrative to claim that there must be """"some reason"""" she keeps being harrassed
Mason Ross
I tend to agree with that, but you've got to consider the negative externalities of your own actions. Stop being a faggot.
Dylan Lopez
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Christian Morgan
Liberal horse shit, you're talking to a femanon. I know, what these fucking bitches are doing. They want attention, they want power,t hey want to use their sexuality to make sure people shut up, and they believe that they won't have consequences if they do it.
It's liberal horse shit to let people just get accused like this and just let people witch hunt them. I won't stand for it
Adam Cruz
If you wait to long and let them go unquestioned they equally gain authenticity.
I wasn't saying harass even, I was just saying fuck them, I don't care if someone wants to. What I suggested was reporting their accounts for targeted harassment.
Henry Foster
Yeah I'm down with that, I must have mixed you up with someone saying to do something more radical right away?
Mason Butler
I'm saying I wouldn't care if someone did harass them. But I won't. I just reported both of them for targeted harassment and I think all of you should do the same.
Kevin Green
I don't actually give much of a shit about redditors messing around here as long as they don't start bringing over their ridiculous culture, see: "brigading". You have been enriched by redditors!
Gabriel Ward
Wow, apparently being conscious of the effects your actions have on the wider leftist community is liberalism. Who knew!?. I'm a girl btw ;) And generally harassing people gives more clout to people in the victim community. See: Anita and Zoe for examples of this.
Gabriel Jackson
They should have thought about that before charging someone with rape
Jackson Cruz
Brigading is a term that was originally used on BBSes, but you're probably too young to remember that, huh?
Carter Martinez
It's obviously pretty fucking annoying but it alway leads nowhere and I didn't feel like reading dozens of convoluted "no u" replies. Just call them out for their retardation directly and move on imo
Levi Evans
You stupid fuck, I was talking about the effects your actions, not hers.
Charles Young
Listen old timer, I don't care about how you used to do the hokey coke with the dames way back in the day, but brigading is considered "A OK" here. Not that I'm the one actually saying we should I'm just trying to get to the bottom of it.Even though I'm European so I don't actually give a shit if he's guilty.
Eli Green
I know what you meant. But it seems you can't even weigh what actions are serious and what aren't.
Telling someone to fuck off: It's war
Falsely accusing someone of rape: Hey, forget about it, you don't want to start a scene do you?
Wow, it's almost like I addressed this when I said that harassing someone int the victim community gives them more clout. Anita and Zoe are examples of this.
Sebastian Williams
My god, we've been had. She's alive! linkedin.com/in/sipiora Remember to log off before clicking if you have an account.
Parker Smith
Listen here's the thing you're missing
I don't give a shit
Joseph Nelson
Wait who said she was dead?
Kevin Wilson
Wasn't it mentioned on twitter somewhere?
Landon Hill
These people can't keep their sob story straight then lmao
Jaxson Carter
the smart thing to you is just to ignore them, start attacking them and boom they are now a victim of terrible online harassment then they set up a patreon to support them because they had to move because of all these totally credible death threats and they laugh all the way to the bank just like they wanted in the first place
just don't entertain these cretins and they will go away
Jace Thomas
Then report them enough times to get them banned at the very least
Leo Cox
This. There's room between being a total sperg and mailing her rape threats to her irl mailbox and just ignoring it completely, and if hitting "report" on twitter is harassment then twitter feminists are the biggest harassers on the internet anyway
Zachary Allen
Emily Sipiora confirmed for whatever it is when you're underage but also a crazy dangerous bitch?
Who is even advocating doing this? It seems like someone has got outraged at the thought, then proceeded to act like that's reality.
Gabriel Sanders
Nobody? I'm being hyperbolic for effect
Jason Fisher
re witch rape hunts and doxing, I refer to the attached files - big if true
perfect
Jason Peterson
I don't get these fucking people. As the femanon in this thread it's fairly fucking easy to avoid adult men. It's not like you have to seek them out, men can be creepy, but if you end up loving them or dating them, I don't know what to say.
Then again I'm a dyke, but it just seems ridiculous and after the fact. Especially comparing yourself to a sexual assault victim.
Kevin Nelson
Honestly as a European I find this obsession with hunting down people for having sex with people in between the ages of 16-18 pretty fucking nutty, especially from leftists who are the sort to bitch about Americans loving violence but being incredibly hostile to sex sometimes within hours of these little outrage sessions. It's just something easy to get pious over even though the rest of the world doesn't care. Some of the age gaps are a little weird but it's ridiculous when they aren't even that large and it's pure legality based outraged.
Nathan Sanchez
This is exactly how I feel as well.
Nolan White
Why do people even like this podcast?
Jayden Davis
They are lonely.
Owen Johnson
It's the only outlet society gives us to hate women
Daniel Gray
Investment from the beginning. Plus, the show is really only for Felix. At least for me. It might as well just be renamed the Felix Power Hour. He soothes me.
Tyler Davis
I mean why else listen to any podcast. Loneliness is a given
Leo Lewis
What? Podcasting is just new generation talk radio. Anyone who ever commutes or spends any time at the gym or whatever can listen to a podcast without being lonely
Ethan Powell
This is true actually, never mind
Jordan Robinson
Eh, I'm more of a Matt fan
Hunter Hughes
Dude listen to the scumbag. It's a spin off between him and another guy talking about video games and being extremely online
Liam Gray
searched that girl's name on twitter and she had a bunch of dummy accounts with one tweet telling hermit_thrush to unblock her in 2013
her 21 page chapbook is also available for purchase for $10
Hunter Stewart
????? who was hell homer?
Jaxson Williams
Buy it!
This is starting to feed into my suspicions that Emily doesn't want to be named or have it dragged up because she was young and put Virgil's name down out of spite because she was jilted some way. This mostly comes from here writing the list herself, being a young writer at the time, and completely vanishing later on.
Gavin James
she has a current twitter account and more recent writing it looks like, it doesn't seem like she has anything to do with whatever was going on then coming up now
if this is a misunderstanding of a joke from years ago and no relationship actually took place I hope it can get cleared up, whole thing creeps me out
Nicholas Richardson
So it's true he was dating an underage girl?
Oliver Adams
"Jilted" can but usually doesn't imply dated. Most of the people on Holla Forums have been jilted before without ever dating anyone, for example
Thomas Walker
cancelling my chapo subscription for two months to justify this purchase. maybe longer depending on how virgil/justin is depicted!
Parker Allen
it may have been a joke? there are dozens of current weird twitter/chapo-adjacent people who talked to her on her old account so whatever the deal was then they can clarify it was fake if it was
There's a preview of the start of it on google books, but it's just a load of fucking poems and snippets. The real hot takes here is investigating down the avenue
Jacob Hall
there's a link to a google drive with the whole thing, but there's nothing with names/anything incriminating that I saw, most of the poems aren't about guys or a relationship
Camden Mitchell
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Thomas Carter
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Angel Scott
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Grayson Gutierrez
I feel like we're about to become woke af
David Perez
Who the fuck is hell homer? Is it supposed to be Virgil? Why the fuck does one man need so many nicknames?
Hunter Edwards
The playlist she posted to go with the book is p. good. It's the same kind of shit I listened to around that time, so it's pretty nostalgic tbh.
Landon Jenkins
checked
Adrian Collins
plz link it i'm in an emotional musings from a 17 year old girl kind of space rn
Jeremiah Foster
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Evan Smith
14, 24, or 25?
Adrian Powell
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Juan Peterson
imagine putting your government name on a book about you being a massive teenaged slut while still in high school
Noah Fisher
I was in high school in 2014
Joseph Long
did the reddit thread on these allegations get deleted?
those are obviously a list of crushes, not hookups
Hudson Gutierrez
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Ayden Reed
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Connor Thomas
user didn't you know that words are much deeper when they're enjambed unnecessarily?
Adam Hill
This is the same cunt who made the "why call out culture and PC is good" thread.
Please nuke that sub, at this point I almost believe they're alt-right false flaggers trying to undermine the left.
Jayden Davis
CHAPO IS GAY
CHAPO IS CIA
CUMTOWN IS NAZ BOL
James Gutierrez
boyhood is playing in an indie band in Rockford, guyhood is podcasting from your Greenpoint apartment
Isaiah Perez
Cumtown is gay and that's a good thing
Jaxon Myers
We have to look into this obvious FBI stooge.
Jaxon Johnson
Can someone post this thread in the discord where those supposed text messages came from?
Josiah Stewart
Why on earth would we do that?
Joseph Murphy
bc that's where what looks like a smear campaign started or I guess twitter, but you're right this shit's boring who cares
kek, accurate take from a dirty succdem well I'll be
Mason Walker
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Joseph Fisher
more like chapo cuckhouse
Jack Murphy
damn, gottem also fuck it I would
Joshua Turner
Will they ever recover?
Dylan Long
More like Crappo Flapmouth, am I right?
Samuel Taylor
Fuck dude……….fuck……….
Alexander Wood
More like Crappo Flapmouth, am I right?
Owen Green
It's ogre
Blake Bennett
More like Crapo Flapmouth, am I right?
Asher Morris
READ CHAPTER 2 OF THIS BOOK
tl;dr it failed cause of horizontalism and anarchism
Angel Garcia
Who here has taken the red pill? It seems like people here are close to enlightenment.
Connor Bailey
agreed
Isaiah Morris
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Carson Turner
lol she's friends with that's jordan guy.
Evan Jenkins
who dis?
Connor Russell
Never ever
Andrew Allen
pulling something out of your ass isn't a fact. once again the idpol stuff during occupy only came around near the end when the movement had already failed. a failure of the left.
Caleb Stewart
Snazzy!
Alexander Russell
Will we ever be free of these people?
James Wilson
Matt's ok. I like when he talks about history, because that's what I'm interested. Also, he's pretty good at being insightful when it comes to popular culture.
Jace Hill
doubt this kind of thing makes me more despondent than any right wing success
the left will never ever win anything if we are constantly fighting each other and the reddit/twitter/tumblr brigade will never ever stop finding minor things to attack people on their side
basically all hope is lost until someone deletes the internet
Luke Phillips
To be fair, absolutely nobody is going to wear that shirt. And you could just go to any tshirt making website and do that
Lincoln Perry
The Democratic Cops of America is already imploding one dumb SJW drama over the other
Chapo Cuck House will never ever be edgy. Leftycucks you will never be cool and underground. Cuck House gets 80k thousand a month from fucking bugmen like you who get to speak freely with no consequence Cuck House will get praise from Vox and Salon while Alt-Right podcasts will never get funding and their platforms will be shut down because they are a genuine threat
Wyatt Baker
You poor child.
Isaac Johnson
stop posting fake news she died because of a heart attack I admit seeing a rapidly approaching dodge charger might have brought it on but it wouldn't have happened if she wasn't so fucking fat and if it wasn't a dodge it would have been something else
Asher Hall
I bet you still believe the Spencer puncher was a dead shit-eating cuck too
Dominic Gonzalez
Fuck, how did you know about Adam?
Hudson Gray
Amber is the only one I like on Chapo anymore. I would like a podcast that was just her and Nagle.
Ethan Thompson
Interesting theory. Why don't you got back to reddit and share it with your friends there?
Jacob Harris
You listen to whale vomit? It's too bad it's not more active
Gabriel Reyes
I'm getting unironically upset over how much they're talking over her
Isaac Young
You do realize that no one wants to be edgy past a very young age? I mean it’s pretty well known that transgressive politics of any stripe is a dead end. People like Chapo because it’s funny and comfy.
Leo Watson
Things are only entertaining and worth listening to when you have to hide it from your mom
Eli Morris
Pretty much sums-up 90% of leftist media at this point. My favorite part is when leftist Jews call Trump a Nazi, even though he's the biggest Zionist President in US history, and has a Jewish son-in-law, and like 6 Jews in his cabinet.
William Hill
amber was always best chapo member and its a shame felix gets all the attention.
Nick: how about Dick Sucking Alliance Adam: how bout D S GAY Nick: You stole that from Brandon Wardell, who sucks. Everyone call Adam a gay bug on Twitter. Stavboard: Quadruple deck fuckin burgers yo
Kayden Ward
Zionists are Nazis now, why is this surprising?
Jordan Rodriguez
What we have now is anti-semetic Zionism ala Brevik
Daniel Gomez
Yeah basically finding common ground in a mutual hatred of muslims.
Leo Butler
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James White
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Chase Perez
Amber is definitely the only one who knows anything, they probably won't but I wish they had another woman as a semi-frequent cohost since Amber's busy an all girl sister podcast with three or four people would be good, I think I've seen the idea floated but now would be a good time to actually do it
Lucas King
Is that official or what? I loved listening to it but it just stopped suddenly after the Corbyn victory episode. Have they officially said it’s done? I thought about asking Sam Kriss on Twitter but never bothered
Mason Wright
Idk I thought they were just taking a hiatus for scheduling reasons? You could be right and it could just be done though
Carson Ramirez
Remember when we used to ban nazbols more often. That was good.
Carter Hernandez
;_; poor bb
Noah Carter
Felix is actually the best.
Colton Rivera
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Andrew Bennett
Kantbot is such a fucking pseud. I don't like how Chapo responded (because they really shouldn't have) but the way that he frames this shows how clueless he is. The dude doesn't understand how much of a vampire castle the left is, or how the Chapo boys have some pressure on them to not make the people they're associated with look bad. This is definitely an L for Chapo, but that's not an excuse to be a clueless retard.
Connor Peterson
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Wyatt Foster
t. Butthurt faggot
Ryder Ortiz
t. assblasted kantbot dickrider
Wyatt Edwards
Of all the things to get out of this struggle session, I'm honestly surprised at how much Chapo gets under the skin of Holla Forumsyps and reactionary failures.
I don't care if they're bougie pseuds, that 80k is worth it just to teach idpol scum exactly how unwanted their shitty and unfunny podcasts are by normal people, whether it's edgy jew jokes or woke liberal sass
Jeremiah Adams
This dumbass thinks he's so smart and subversive when he says Marx was capitalist – which of course he was, in the sense that he thought it was a necessary precursor to communism. You learn this shit in PolSci 101.
Chapo and ironybros have their flaws, but at least they don't pretend to be intellectuals.
Nathaniel Jackson
seeing someone enjoy kantbot content fills me with the same feeling I felt watching people get emotional over the hillary clinton fight song lmao
Matthew Gray
It appears that the allegations against Sam are regarding things said in the context of a relationship and likely flirtatiously. Am I crazy or is this really taking it even further than normal?
the refusing to stop kissing her in public/after she told him she had a bf and didn't want to go home with him and being pushy and controlling about what she drank is gross and inexcusable even with the omitted information that they had hooked up before is he a drunk?
Carter Flores
Who cares?
Jonathan Jones
This tbh. I'm so fucking sick of these god damn witch hunts.
STOP DRAGGING YOUR INTERPERSONAL RELATIONSHIP SHIT INTO THE PUBLIC, JUST FUCKING TALK TO EACH OTHER AND GO YOUR SEPARATE WAYS WITHOUT MAKING A SYMPATHY SPECTACLE
IS IT REALLY THAT FUCKING DIFFICULT
Matthew Barnes
Why is LITERALLY EVERY MAN either a sperg who thinks every woman wants to fuck him and will kill any woman who embarrasses him sexually or a sperg who thinks no women want to fuck him and will kill himself because he's sexually embarrassed? Fuck deporting muh low Autism Level races, just forcing men to take a 3 week long course on how to not be autistic would do wonders to murder, rape, sexual harassment and suicide rates.
Adam Taylor
That's how masculinity works. Women like it at some level most of the time.
Nicholas Gutierrez
Like dragging this shit into the public eye when he's not a serial case is a responsible fucking decision. It's sexual harassment itself. You do that to people who have done it to five or more people and have power, as far as I'm aware being creepy shouldn't be a public offense.
And throwing people under the bus who don't have power and are creepy is only going to throw proles under the god damn bus. Not that Sam is too much of a prole, but this behavior isn't fucking warranted and it is harassment.
I am so fucking sick of seeing this. I'm a fucking femanon and I'm sick of this
Mason Baker
I've been thinking about this as well. Like many other posters here I'm sure, I don't like Kriss all that much but there's more at play here that people aren't willing to acknowledge. If we continue to let this system of excommunication develop I highly doubt anyone that posts on Holla Forums would make it out unscathed.
Christian Ortiz
I was on a school trip when I lost my virginity to this girl while I was very drunk. After we had fucked we lay naked on my hotel bed, than my room mate came in and I pushed the girl on the floor so my roommate wouldn't see her. The roommate left and then I asked the girl to leave.
Probably not a good memory for her.
Also like one time or so I've probably been quite agressive in pursuing a woman in a club due to xanax and alcohol.
Am I a rapist or not? You decide lmao
pretty good apology
Jack Ward
There's probably a quotation from vampire castle that addresses this but I'm always curious as to what exactly these people want Sam to do at this point. It seems that he should just wither and die, they won't grant any forgiveness and he can't ever atone. Shirty behavior, sure, but the left can be so oddly punitive considering the usual stance on prison reform, rehabilitation, etc. None of that benevolence is extended into the personal it seems, only in the abstract.
David Carter
commit suicide probably
even worse than this I think is the treatment of Mark Ames
Daniel Martin
Anyone got a link to The Daou of Politics? I think everyone could benefit feom some light hearted liberal retardation.
Michael Reed
Usually they would want him to resign so that they or one of their cronies could somehow replace him.
Nicholas Jones
Peanuts is good actually
Joseph Nelson
About as much of a red flag as the word toxic at this point. Like, ugh!
Cooper Ward
he's now in the category of people that associating with in anyway is used as a taint same as they do with Mullen (who has never even done anything besides make jokes they don't like)
Cooper Sullivan
Thid, nothing more comfy than melancholy, 50's peanuts is all melancholy and alienation.
Kevin Davis
my favorite weasely guilt-by-association thing is when I saw a tweet saying amber sat by and laughed along at the holocaust…in reference to her being on cum town and adam joking about anne frank or some shit
Julian Brown
When I returned I sat away from him. Then the various manoeuvres to get me to go home with him began. I want to relay precisely how he first suggested this because it demonstrates a willingness to laud wealth (and thus power).
Sam said, “so do you want to come back to mine to see my massive house?”
“Don’t you mean your parents massive house?”
“Yeah, but when they die I’ll inherit it”
lmao fuck sam kriss
Jordan Morris
This in itself is giving me the keks. I'm imagining her stood at the gates of Auschwitz doing a ner-ner face at the trains going past.
Caleb Nelson
That's pretty funny though.
Adam Peterson
gotta admit irony poisoning has seeped into my hookup attempts as well
Thomas Wright
All these stupid left twitter people getting caught up in sex scandals, why don't they just do what I do and never associate with women or leave the house?
Robert James
Most young people can't help themselves.
Aaron Butler
The great thing about calling people out for their lascivious behavior is that nobody is safe and it can be used by anyone at any time to completely destroy your credibility opportunistically if someone who feels wronged by you disagrees with your politics.
Such shite.
Anthony Peterson
I have yet to see a woman get ruined by this sort of thing. Seems like just another way for cis female activists to "get ahead" in the world of professional activism.
Nicholas Rivera
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Parker Campbell
FOR GOD'S SAKE WHEN WILL MEN REALIZE WOMEN ALLUDING TO "NO" AND BEATING AROUND THE BUSH AND NOT ACTUALLY SAYING "NO" MEANS "NO"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Caleb Miller
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John Gutierrez
You should assume it does though, just to be safe
Luke Torres
I didn't know anyone gave consent to have their dirty laundry aired either.
Jeremiah Davis
BigDickDSA is absolutely owning this situation
Aaron Williams
You know that's just a Holla Forums poster right
Leo Hughes
yes. and he's winning. not good.
Dylan Bell
Why do women feel the need to mock guys who have tried to bang them?
Blake Ramirez
power
Aiden Sullivan
How is he winning. What is he winning. I just reported him for targeted harassment.
Jackson Smith
he's winning in Owning Online, the most important currency in modern politics
Caleb Flores
>Why do women feel the need to mock guys who have tried to bang them on the third date for a third time? FTFY
Zachary Gomez
How is he winning in owning online
Jaxson Stewart
BigDickDsa is going to take down Episode 1 by accusing branson of premartial sex
warning, warning
Asher Gray
That just makes his behavior even more reasonable. Also why is she going out if she already has a bf? Am I confusing the "accusers" or is this all just one woman?
Samuel Evans
It's just one stupid thot
Liam Moore
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Jaxson Jenkins
she said she kept saying no to him kissing her, no to buying her alcohol, no to going home with him and he was ignoring that
Matthew Taylor
I don't care. I really don't care lol.
Jeremiah Evans
Nobody should give a fuck about any of this
Charles Gray
Sounds harmless.
Owen Barnes
her agreeing to go out with him and then agreeing to go to a bar with him doesn't excuse him being agressive when she said she didn't want to make out with him, yeah her choosing to not see him if she didn't want to continue a sexual relationship would have been a better choice but his choices are still bad
Kevin Hernandez
Love to call out Mullen for being a "regular" on Red Eye after three (3) episodes while being a fan of Andy Levy who, uh, appeared on one thousand three hundred and seventy-seven (1,377) episodes.
Definitely genuine outrage on Salehi's part. Bravo for bravely calling out someone with a more popular podcast for attention.
Noah Hill
Why should I care.
Isaiah Russell
Not really tbh. The nu-right is currently participating in the Chapo witch hunt, which isn't unexpected, but the amount of joy they're taking in this tips their hand. They're basically just a mirror of the shitlibs, they see Chapo being successful and they clearly resent that. They think that these apologies are a sign of impotence, but that's just Chapo trying to salvage what connections they can. It's honestly kind of pathetic to watch.
Liam Adams
Yep there it is. The vampire castle. Just blatant liberal careerism hidden under a veneer of Feminism.
Oliver Jenkins
Haha, yeah, I read it all. I just don't give a shit at this point.
Liam Ross
When the initiative is no longer required solely of men.
Robert Hernandez
Complete Sicko BransonDoBetter has raped my mom to death.
Luis Allen
yeah, none of you need to care, but saying it's ok to act like an asshole isn't not caring
it sounds like he's the kind of person who thinks he's just being a naughty drunk, I've known multiple people who act like this and don't think it's an issue bc they're self-declared feminists/leftists
Daniel Green
Listen to me. I don't care what proles do, lots of poor people do this shit. If you knew anything outside of your suburb, you wouldn't give a solid fuck about these drama creating thots.
Fuck off.
Matthew White
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Blake Richardson
Complete Sicko BransonDoBetter has destroyed the foundation of marriage
John Cooper
Complete Sicko BransonDoBetter has violated my sister's husband
John Jones
She didn't say she didn't want to make out with him. Read it again, it's all subtext. The final phase of the night is pretty funny and cringeworthy and that's where the meat of her complaints should lie but the real hot take is that she's still worried about her career while in the middle of a supposedly anguishing experience with her fuck buddy that she hasn't informed isn't her fuck buddy anymore.
This tbh
Luke Butler
Complete Sicko BransonDoBetter has done anal with me in particular.
Oliver Thompson
Bransondobetter kissed me once, shame on him. Shame on his loins. A pox on his loins.
Matthew Lewis
It's ok to be an asshole. It's ok to be a socially retarded creep like Sam Kriss was. It's not OK to use someone's socially awkward behavior years after the fact to gain social status. If you're going to talk shit about someone's behavior then do it in a social context, because this really isn't a political issue.
Robert Torres
No, don't you see. If you don't make your sexual history public for all to see in a grand tapestry most would call a gross violation of personal privacy, you are actually a potential rapist. lol.
Kayden Thompson
If the genders were reversed this would rightly seen as a fucking farce.
Jackson Morgan
I agree that this is suspicious (not including that they had had sex before, adding some vague shit about being woman hater on twitter being a sign of being a abuser to tar all leftist men who don't like certain women or whatever) and the person likely sucks since she submitted this to a terf blog, but the behavior being described is not an ok way to act and shouldn't be defended, I mean I think people saying kriss should be banned from writing for life and that all leftist men are evil are just using this for their previously held grievances
Luke Perry
Listen to me, if we make his behavior condemable, exactly how many proles are we to condemn every day of our lives. How is this fucking useful praxis at all. I won't defend people's privacy being violated.
Jordan Garcia
Why do leftist women expect left wing guys to behave like fucking monks? Seriously this is infuriating.
Juan Wright
It seems these nu-right faggots have learned the trick of adding "bro" to the end of a group so they don't need substance to form a critique. Before long they'll be a complete mirror of the shitlibs.
Carter Taylor
Branson, Felix, and the, ironycelgoonbros, are at it again
Jordan Clark
An ironycelgoonbro latched onto my titties like a fucking velociraptor!
Mason Anderson
Jesse Farrar impregnated me with my large son.
Elijah Kelly
I find it very cynical that this is being called a case of sexual assault when the person never calls it that and goes for sexual harassment and sexual aggression, but this is a wider issue of the looseness of what that term has been expanded to (referring to both rape and if a stranger slaps your ass with the same term is not ideal), but this is too thorny and complicated a subject for it to be dealt with in good faith on either side
Robert Perez
Ames will be fine, the eXile crew was dirtbag left before there was a dirtbag left. As long as he has Yasha and John, he'll keep speaking truth to power no matter how many SJWs condemn him.
Daniel Howard
Volcel master race bro
Oliver Garcia
Jesse Farrar slapped my ass limply so its sexual harassment, only Branson slaps my ass so hard enough it becomes sexual assault
Brandon Martinez
pottery
Cooper Stewart
Is kissing rape now Holla Forums
Your transformation into sjw is almost complete
Grayson Martin
Complete Sicko ironycelgoonbros like Jesse Ferrar inseminate as many woman as possible to create the ultimate podcast, when will the alt left madness end
Justin Parker
If you live by the dildo you die by the dildo also we are quite openly right wing SJWs
Hudson Moore
I carried 9 girls, before gene editing, now I only produce men for Branson's podcast harem. How ironic he was a feminist though.
Adrian Howard
If you live by the dildo you die by the dildo
Landon Young
Don't give up that easy, it was fun when you gave chase to the idea you weren't.
Jacob Clark
If you live by the dildo you die by the dildo
Dylan Hall
*chants* If you live by the dildo you die by the dildo If you live by the dildo you die by the dildoIf you live by the dildo you die by the dildoIf you live by the dildo you die by the dildo
Mason Williams
SJWs stole race identity politics from the right wing
Sebastian Thomas
You were the real sjws all along Holla Forums. That's right.
Nolan Baker
Jesse Ferrar stole race identity politics from the right wing
Lincoln James
Holla Forums will make sure Cum Town is destroyed by pretending to be raped women.
Anthony Phillips
We want social justice for white cud gendered people
Eli Rodriguez
Sam Kriss only guilty of being a Chad
Jaxon Johnson
Jesse Ferrar totally guilty of using my wife to create an army of irrelevant shited children, not feminist, against my autonomy, against the white race
NOT COOL
Matthew Miller
Lmao this thread is gold, Holla Forumscucks btfo
Ian Hall
This would be pretty funny to watch tbh. Get on it Holla Forums
Hudson Anderson
I don't have a Facebook so I can't read the original accusations against Sam Kriss, can anyone post some screen caps?
Your side is definitely doing some moralizing over this, don't lie
Ethan Bailey
Tell on Nick Mullen next to become the woman you truly believe you can be Holla Forums
Sebastian Butler
Jesse Ferrar: These impregnation allegations are true and I rape for a living
Nicholas Gomez
Jesse "Everything I see I must also rape" Ferrar
Adam Jackson
Speak English
Tyler Martin
You mean Holla Forums ? Because nobody else on the right ever even heard of the cuck house
Juan Moore
Nobody has ever heard of the most successful patreon that ranks in $80,000+ a month
Easton Nelson
Nobody has heard of Jesse Ferrar either, and yet he still rapes white women for cash
Do something Holla Forums
Oliver Hall
Yes but it is funded by like 1000 rabid autists who spend their mothers welfare money to hear 3 nu males rant about Badampf
William Howard
Holla Forums looks like a damn snack
Jaxson Green
Meant for
Carter Adams
Why hasn't Holla Forums thought of that before
Ayden Thompson
Why hasn't Holla Forums thought of that before
Justin Phillips
Why is Nick Mullen so cool?
Luke Taylor
Pussy eating lips, good facial hygiene, trimmed mustache
Jackson Price
The kikes banned us and no web money/transfer platform wants to do business with litteral nazis
Liam Jackson
Poor bb ;_;
Luis Thomas
Yes this is what it's like to be a political dissident in America you probably don't know anything about it
Nolan Cook
...
Carter Brooks
I want to be like him
Alexander Gomez
"By getting owned we won" -Raped Woman
Jordan Ross
I, too, love the help of neoliberalism
William Wilson
Holla Forums gets kicked out of every website they've been a part of, and they'd have you believe that they're being oppressed for no reason. It really make you think, no?
Parker Nelson
Patreon donations make me neoliberal mommy
Thomas James
Jew: *gets kicked out of a bunch of countries for refusing to assimilate* Holla Forums: "Wow they deserved that shit, fuck 'em. Wonder why they got kicked out of so many coutries?" … Holla Forums: *gets kicked off of a bunch of websites for being autistic and abusive* Holla Forums: "Holy shit, we're the most oppressed group in modern politics"
Tyler Gonzalez
Sam Kriss: Another one bites the dust. Brought down by banal chauvinism and casual sex.
Jaxson Walker
It turns out being incel offers certain immunities.
Eli Parker
Felix is too much of a sex beast to emerge unaffected, I predict a bomb dropping within the week
Joseph Watson
After the revolution we all get massive houses to invite girls to, right?
Lincoln Ramirez
No. You'll get a regular sized house and plenty of time to improve yourself so you don't have to flaunt your wealth to get laid.
Charles Young
what is a sex beast in this context
Evan Cox
Too bad I can't get wealthy so I don't fave to flaunt my "improvements" to get laid. Sigh. Guess I'll just have to continue cultivating my artistic expression and intellect and civilizing myself until I become a notable essayist and– wait a minute!
Landon Allen
don't fall for this meme
John Harris
We must protect felix at all cost!
Hudson Lopez
Wow communism is fucking gay
Henry Clark
This :-(
Ayden Roberts
/r/ChapoTrapHouse has gone full idpol.
Lucas Gray
In the last reddit struggle thread there was a dude who said something as uncontroversial as "we shouldn't accuse people 3 minutes after having read an anonymous accusation on fb", people proceeded to shit on him for hours and hours. I think he has something like 100 replies at this point, it's insane.
Grayson Sanchez
Funnily enough my takeaway from this week is that Mullen, and those like him, has been sort of exonerated
Gabriel Reed
Maybe this is a lesson for people like Kriss who think it's ok to get overly indignant and self-righteous in an entirely humorless way, dragging people like Zizek as "crypto-fascists" because their lacanian analysis diverges from his, and think they can't be targeted the same way
Nathaniel Wright
r/CTH is now full-on #notmycomrade now lmao
Nathaniel Taylor
Sam Kriss is not a fucking prole, and "I don't care what proles do" is a retarded political stance anyway
Samuel Torres
funny bc the person who's comic popularized that phrase stayed friends with someone after they raped a supposed friend and then harassed the victim afterwards
Justin Rodriguez
Does vampire's castle make the connection to academia and its culture? The link seems obvious.
Elijah Wood
yah but m8 no one was hurt and her "confession" leaves out the bit where they'd had sex. I've never like Kriss and he seems pretty fucking autistic given this story but he hardly did something that merits the rest of society weighing. Adults should be left to manage their own social interactions until someone is actual at risk of suffering physical abuse.
Joseph Bailey
Fuck, it's time to drop r/CTH. It was good when it was mostly people posting tweets shitting on random reactionary e-celebrities, but I genuinely can't stand the call out culture. I'd rather be alone than spend even one more second with these people
James Sanders
He wasn't hurt because he is a rich bourgie. That whole argument stops working once you have public figures who are not filthy rich (which is very common on the internet), and in that case a rape accusation not only will destroy your career, but also your entire life.
Anthony Sullivan
Yeah well– that's literally all of them. Seeing all of Sam's former "classmates", who incubated their political thinking with him over the years in their little forums and discussion boards, coming out with knives instantly, with those knives already sharpened, is enlightening. These people (Sam Kriss included) can't be counted on for much.
Tyler Campbell
My point isn't that the vampire castle is good now and to pile on to every accusation, but honestly Sam Kriss kind of had it coming and even more honestly he's a fucking retard for admitting (and yes, he basically did admit to the worst of it) in his half-assed apology. People need to learn to just shut the fuck up or deny or whatever but apologies don't work and "yeah she was right about everything including me being a bougie shithead lol but we're still cool right?" definitely doesn't. There's only so many times we can be through this before someone has to say "yes, the vampire castle sucks, but if you want sympathy as a public figure maybe put in the bare minimum effort in PR if communicating is basically your whole job".
Grayson Smith
His apology was as good as it could be tbh. There was nothing half-assed about it, in fact, I've seen people assert that he's being even more manipulative and sinister by taking such full responsibility (which is extremely uncommon). People just won't accept an apology.
Hudson Anderson
You misunderstand me. No apology is good enough. Apologizing is for fucking retards. In the chance you're dumb enough to release an apology, a sincere one where you deny/contradict absolutely nothing, bolster the accuser's claims, and make vague allusions to "context" that people are going to take the wrong way, then you're an even bigger idiot. Sam Kriss has become victim to call out culture in general and that's sad and not entirely his fault, but his response is so fucking dumb.
For comparison, check out Taibbi who went through a similar "outing" with days upon days of struggle session online around him and now if someone brings it up only the most perpetually angry online dipshits know or care. I will say this again and again, the answer is NEVER a short, heartfelt apology or the appearance of one. It isn't a game you can win and you're a fucking fool for trying.
Hunter Jenkins
I love this shit. Fuck chapo and fuck leftypol. All you people do is whine about the idpol boogie man because let's be honest, all of you are edgy teens who used to spend all day on Holla Forums but realized right wing ideology is stupid yet can't help but enjoy low hanging fruit that makes you look intellectual. You're one step above rick and morty fans.
Isaac Gray
How did he handle his call outs?
You need to go back.
Brayden Nelson
You're free to go back to reddit
Basically just ignored them. That's the insane thing. Literally doing nothing is better than what Kriss did.
Easton Stewart
This shit makes no sense and I don't know what the Rick and Morty fanbase is like lmao. And you coming here to gloat and "do the schadenfreude" is the most low-hanging fruit shit you can do. It's even more pathetic when the edgyironygoonsmugironypostmodernsoyboyscumbagbros basically bully you online all week. It's like a nerd laughing to himself when he sees his bully stub his toe.
Jeremiah Rivera
I think the actions being over a decade in the past is the biggest factor with that strategy working, if he had been pulling that shit last year it wouldn't have been treated the same way
Charles Taylor
it's funny the only way you can defend yourself is by assuming(HOPING) that I get made fun of by chapo like their the antagonist in an 80's teen film kek.
I swear all you people have read is one mark fisher essay and you call yourselves socialist.
Christopher Rivera
gib proofs.
Justin Perry
These Sam Kriss accusations aren't of recent misbehavior either
Jonathan Adams
It's going to be cool as hell when communism becomes mainstream and you jackoffs are still rejected by your peers with nothing to rationalize.
Carson Parker
Reading Settlers doesn't count
Hudson Evans
This is a chad board. You're looking for /r/incel or whatever other reddit shithole you came from
Henry Hall
ahahaha
oh wait you're serious
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Adam Perez
But, I do have peers?
Nathaniel Barnes
He means once "communism" like universal health care is mainstream. That's the culmination of his goals anyway
Isaac Harris
How about you stop being an intellectually dishonest cuck, hiding behind a thick layer of smug self-satisfaction, and just state where you stand on this issue instead of pretending you're just an outside observer with zero investment. Are you from Holla Forums? Are you from r/soc? Either way you seem like an enormous faggot.
Jackson Gutierrez
When will Holla Forums decide whether they hate chads or whether they hate virgins?
Luis Morales
i've read two mark fisher essays thank you very much.
Nathaniel Flores
Internet drama is like a hurricane in a bottle, except that hurricane sometimes destroys peoples' careers.
Isaiah Russell
careers that were created, maintained and commodified in the same misty vaporous internet and nothing of value was lost
Logan Moore
The internet really is the ultimate example of the spectacle t. someone who has never actually read Debord
Luke Baker
Every leftist woman ultimately cares more about feminism than socialism, prove me wrong
Jackson Cooper
Rosa
Ethan Watson
lol Communism is mainstream af. Go up to anyone and say you're a commie and nobody will give a fuck. It will be cute and quite quaint. You will get a smile a giggle and a pat on the head for being so ahead of the curve in the general ark of history leading to the total victory of ultimate pozz fucking Patrick Stewart is a socialist Micheal Moore is a socialist Sean Penn and that faggot Russel Brand are all socialists. And inb4
Here's the thing faggot. The general working population is based and instinctively red pilled but the power elite, the media class, the faggots in academia and the CEO's of the pozzed FANG companies subscribe to the progressive left ultra moral virtue signal helping the peepel model of thought.
They belive in the star trek future, they know they won't get to see it but they will signal about it and any and all sacrifices are justified on the way to having it where you will get your one world united diverse bureaucratic libshit post scarcity state. They may have divirging agendas like the neo-liberals want globalism to remove barriers for multinational corporations remove regulations diminish the power of the state and to have a free movement of wage labor the pozzed cultural gatekeepers want the same for reasons of moral ecstasy of having diversity and to finally prove that niggers can function in a white liberal society high level army tortskyists want capitalism to abolish the borders and contradictions in race and citizenship so a world revolution would be more likely to happen most of these people may not like each other but they all believe in whig history where the arc of history curves into ultimate pozz and anybody who stands in the way of this will be crushed by the state and/or the cathedral institutions that control the state right now.
"old school communism" or "Soviet style Communism" was just pozz 1.0 the beta version they tried it out it to see how well it would work, it didn't work so well so pozz 1.0 was replaced by pozz 2.0. Where the ideas of anti-colonialism, social equality, femenism, rebellion against authority, social justice, rage agaist the machine frizzy haired mulatto's where all taken by liberal capitalism commodified and sold back to the goyim so we are still heading into the Dildo singularity only we are doing it gradually and incrementally kinda like China is building socialism by being an oppressive fascist oligarchy (becuz you need the industrial base first ofc) Old School marxists are ofcourse no longer needed in this model they are very quaint and cute and the system will pat your head as long as you are an academic theory faggot who did some smashie a few times in cathartic release of rebellious angst are not at all a threat in fact you can be seen as useful material if channeled in the proper direction.
Regardless this utopian shit would be nice and gay and all but it won't happen because reality always gets in the way of utopian faggotry what with current demographic and geo-political developments.
Oh shit, not pewdiepie. Guess I can't be a leftist anymore or else I'll never be able to hang with 12 year olds anymore
Brandon Clark
Lmao pewds is part of gamer gate now because….? He sure as shit wasn't when gamer gate actually existed.
Chase Phillips
Pack your bags folks.
Colton Kelly
this is about some leftist girl twitter discovering nick mullen's tweets and having a meltdown about chapo being friends with him/getting egged on by twitter randos
Brody Bell
Imagine being this poorly informed and brain dead.
Brody Garcia
the punchline is that she was following adam on twitter until someone pointed it out do agree that these people should just be allowed to be upset and have their fits and shouldn't be engaged with to try and explain/make fun of to their face because it's a waste of time
Jace Ward
What girl? I don't figure you mean Alex Press, who probably knows Nick Mullen since she hangs out with Chapo.
Logan Cooper
Love too live inside of a castle made out of vampires
John Morris
no, it's a random person with like 1k followers, there's a whole thread on the cum town reddit she's been tweeting every few minutes about this for hours
Juan Lewis
I like how sam went from getting banned from Something Awful for saying too many racial slurs to "hey guys maybe Al Giordano is right about corncob being a racial slur"
Jason Morgan
he's been radicalized after being criticized for lulzy anti-semitism/irony-naziplay/dropping n-bombs
Liam Evans
How do you legitimize intersectionality and idpol without having idiots crying every time someone say the word "idiot", or without having people accusing other people of rape over anonymous accusations? More in general, how do you bring leftism to the social sphere without turning the general population into a mass of incoherent subhumans?
I mean, I'm only 21 (and I'm pretty sure I'm full of shit, so don't take me too seriously) and reading today's CTH subreddit was pretty depressing. It didn't help that yesterday I have had my first experience with college campus SJWs (which I thought were only a stereotype until now). In my university there is some sort of controversy about a bunch of students who want to remove Shakespeare from the English curriculum. A friend of mine was pretty vocal against this cause, and to be honest his entire argument was based on the inclusivity of new books in our canon, rather than the exclusivity of the old ones. Pretty progressive, right? Nope, some group smashed his room yesterday morning, and yesterday night he got mugged by people who were specifically mocking him for what he said in class.
Now, what the fuck? Are these the leftists I'll have to deal with for the rest of my life? Because these are quite literally the only dedicated leftists I've met so far (they are part of every other relevant organizations in my city). I might be generalizing, but these experiences truly mortified me, to the point where I'm starting to think that I might have been wrong about pretty much everything for my entire life, at least when it comes to politics, society and culture.
Fuck, the CTH subreddit has triggered me.
Levi Thomas
It's only a matter of time until Felix or someone gets accused of "harassment" and the whole Chapo house of cards will collapse as rapidly as it ascended.
Charles Lewis
He is just dogwhistling for money. By saying "nigger" he knows that internet reactionaries will feel included, by apologizing he mantains his audience, and by saying that word again he convinces reactionaries that yes, he was with them from the beginning, while giving the impression to more naive viewers that his usage of racist slurs is truly nothing more than lapsuses.
Basically, he is gaming the ideological cesspool called Youtube to maximuze his profits. I doubt he's an actual alt-righter.
Liam Evans
Next time just keep in mind that to become a leftist personality you have to be a volcel knight.
Andrew Cox
He probably has fascist sympathies due to his class.
Justin Phillips
It me. Give me all your patreons now pls
Colton Wood
This tbh. I get solidarity over the whole vampire castle thing but if anyone deserves it it's Kriss. It's not like he ever gave the same deference to Zizek when he was ranting about how he's a fascist because he doesn't word things exactly like he would.
Carter Lewis
Damn who could have guessed? Anyways we need to find out who these women are and make them regret trying to reestablish the vampire castle.
Kayden Lopez
I'm not sure he was banned for that– it's easy to lump in all subforms together, but they were sometimes extremely antagonistic mostly exclusive communities.
Luis Jenkins
Also remember to always track your position so that you can always have an alibi. When you're out follow the Pence rule, never be alone in a room with another woman. Also never truly become friend with anyone, because if they fuck up you have to a) claim that you were not that close and b) completely reject them from then on.
Dominic Morris
You don't The sub is currently filled with raiders so it's worse than usual (and it's already getting pretty bad). The number one rule of being online and left is to give as little of a shit as possible. Apologies are bad and performative. Sincere, milquetoast platitudes are useless and also performative. Just ignore it.
John Cook
It's already happened before and it blew over. Stop overreacting. If anything, Kriss (unintentionally) just took a bullet for the Chapo crew since who the fuck cares about a Cosby joke when you're groping titties out in public?
Josiah Lewis
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Isaac Evans
No. You guys are missing the actual rule. Never be vulnerable and sincere. That's not honesty, it's weakness and sharks will circle it. Always be confident, always be belligerent in your points, and never ever apologize.
Wyatt Rodriguez
Sure in the same way most liberals do. Pewdiepie is actually an ordinary guy, not smart, not dumb. He just feels like he's being persecuted by the traditional media, which has conjoined with "online." And tbh for some reason these media guys really do want to make you think every single YouTube guy is a nazi, like the recent hack-job from vice about The Needle Drop.
Justin Long
You're ignoring the parts where he forcibly kissed her and felt her up over and over. It's a literal description of sexual assault.
William Johnson
as used his juicy aristocratic warez in his failed attempt at coercion
Camden Adams
The disconnect here is that he admitted to/apologized for a different version of events than what she actually described without actually outright denying any of it. Which is a really, really dumb thing to do and doesn't help his case they way he probably thought it would
Landon Thompson
People are really mad he said "FYI we fucked before and I thought it was a booty call" just because the girl thought this wasn't important. Just shows you the pitfalls of the culture of casual sex! Long term partners are the only way to go.
Jeremiah Wood
Well the version of events she described didn't mention had already established a casual sexual relationship, did it?
Kevin Ramirez
Wtf I'm a traditionalist now
Adrian Cruz
I think It's Always Sunny's implication episode has taught a generation of young men more about what coercion and date rape are than they've ever cared to learn from any other source
not being a drunk is also more like the way to go, also not groping someone after the 5th or 10th time they tell you to chill with it
Asher Allen
no, it wasn't a tiny omission, she deliberately downplayed how well "acquainted" they were before that night
Brandon Morris
That's my point. If you're going to contradict her version of events, actually say so instead of brushing over it like a coward and inadvertently admitting to her version of events. Which is what he did.
Christian Flores
This. Lenin has been proven right yet again.
David Watson
no, and it is relevant bc there's a difference between randomly kissing a person you're going out with platonically and kissing someone you've presumably kissed the previous two times you've hung out, not taking no for an answer or backing off in either scenario still not ok but people saying he shouldn't have included that information are being disingenuous imo
Tyler Adams
100% this
Nathaniel Watson
Anybody that agrees with Giordano on anything deserves all the bad things in the world to happen to them and only them.
Josiah Stewart
I mean why else would any man be hanging out alone with a woman?
Nolan Fisher
Well that's too bad cause I'm going to continue drinking. As for the second point: young men, do not have casual sex. It's pointless, creates all kinds of misunderstandings, and sets you up personally for some kind of catastrophe to befall you. Find a woman you want to be with.
Mason Fisher
It's not like he would've come off any better had she included the fact that they had been sleeping together. It just shows how manipulative these stories and their amplifiers are.
Angel Russell
What if no woman wants to be with me for more than a night or two?
Austin Price
It makes her come off like a total bitch though. She probably has a thing for spoiled rich boys and the guys she fucks probably aren't any less rapey than Sam.
Parker Ward
yup
Nicholas Butler
Then you're probably dodging bullets left and right
Jack Phillips
you just made my playboy lifestyle even cooler. I'm Neo, bitch!
Jonathan Carter
Reminder that Kriss's biggest mistake is being a thirsty faggot who didn't move the fuck on after the first or second time. If it's obviously casual and you get clingy that shit will always backfire on you.
Jordan Hernandez
Also this. anyone with such trash game is #notmycomrade
Chase Brooks
It's over. chapo chuds are finished. Not even being ironical. The witch hunt won't stop. Expect condemnation from every socialist group on the continent.
Jaxon Lewis
No amount of bullying will stop the 80k/month. All they have to do is wait out the storm. These shithead careerists will find something else to whine about eventually.
Josiah Rodriguez
kek, if cuntbot and his ilk could stop them it would've been over for them long ago
Eli Walker
Yeah, I'm sure they won't be ostracized and ex-communicated by every lefty organization, and met with protest at live shows.
Evan Kelly
Can't wait to see what happens when twitter leaves the house.
Lucas Collins
No left wing organization with any serious membership would do this. Also Tumblrinas don't go outside.
Thomas Baker
Kriss will probably be ex-communitcated. But if you think the Chapo guys are gonna get serious long-term resistance over a Cosby tweet you're out of your mind
Chase Flores
even if they are, so what? unless over half of the patreon subscribers drop them then literally none of that matters unless you think they'll be literally violently attacked
Angel Williams
We're almost at critical mass. #DePatreonThePatriarchy
Nathan Walker
Twitter activists and Holla Forumstards have no money.
Zachary Bell
What is Kantbot's deal? I thought he was leftwing but generally flippant/critical/politically incorrect but if this were the case I don't think he'd be so invested in moralizing over other people's sexual relations.
Evan Baker
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Caleb Walker
He's an unironic monarchist edgelord who picked up some twitter left slang and mannerisms to endear him to retards who don't like people like Chapo because they say "problematic" shit sometimes
Aiden Gutierrez
the worst kind of people tbh.
William Johnson
The point is that he's probably just covering his ass by making a lame and irrelevant counter-accusation. He's trying to have his cake and eat it too by apologizing and then accusing her of dishonesty.
Aaron Collins
Lol I was picking up this vibe but I thought he was a leftie and it was ironic. In hindsight you're definitely right.
Austin Edwards
well was she dishonest though
Levi Cox
Clearly not since Kriss doesn't even attempt to deny anything she's saying.
Andrew Hall
so how is he accusing her of dishonesty?
Adam Campbell
She didn't make false claims she just left out relevant information (like the fact that she is a kind of a slut and had banged him numerous times before.)
Adrian Morgan
She painted a truly troubling picture, he downplayed it as a simple "booty call". I mean, those parts in which he forces her to drink vodka, or when she starts groping her in the packed cinema with everyone looking at her, or the fact that he dropped the fucking implication at the end of the night (while throwing in the garbage everything he believes about communism, not part of the assault but still goddamn disgusting). Seriously, fuck Sam. I mean, fuck call out culture, but that was still a legitimately grotesque account of sexual assault, which was absolutely not reprrsented by his apology.
I guess this is only natural for him, since, if taken seriously, this is a career-ending scandal.
Noah Young
It's not a scandal at all.
Xavier Wood
What the hell? You have no idea what he's saying is true, and her word has far more credibility at this point. Like even the stories of him bragging are easily corroborated by rhizzone posts he's made.
Adam Rogers
Why?
Brayden Turner
Driving stakes thru hearts is too phallic ok
Xavier Stewart
Him being a sexual offender is not a scandal? In which world? Ffs, I can understand railing against the insanity of today, but now that he has admitted it, there is literally no justification for his action. It's a scandal, and if he accepts to aknowledge it to its full extent, he'll alienate most of his audience.
Ethan Roberts
Because Kriss himself has accepted it to be true, her story is thoroughly logical and plausible, people who know him recognize her portrayal of his personality. It's funny that he gets so much defense here when he would call you all brocialists, but no sexual predators go undefended here as long as they're "left" I guess.
Ryan Gomez
Being a bit too pushy with a booty call does not make someone a "sex offender." What's with this puritan bullshit?
Easton Stewart
so you're saying he's corroborating everything she said but he's lying about their having an existing sexual relationship?
Joshua Torres
Why should her framing be accepted over anyone else's when she has shown incredible amounts of bias towards the reality of the situation? She made it seem like he straight up tried to rape her when it was just a really awkward situation. That makes her worse honestly. Obviously the twitter vampires smelled blood after the whole cosby thing and are trying to extract some flesh. We shouldn't let them.
Oliver Edwards
Come on, I had lost count of the number of "No"s by the time I reacher 1/3th of that post. If that's not sexual assault, then only violent rape is.
Blake Taylor
Maybe he's lying, maybe not. Clearly he's bringing it up for dishonest reasons, so it doesn't really matter either way.
Caleb Sullivan
So it's OK for her to leave things out of her story (i.e. the fact that they had a pretty significant sexual relationship at the time) but when he doesn't leave it out it makes him the bad guy? What the fuck? Sounds like you are just spooked.
Parker Bell
the guy himself isn't trying to defend himself, why are you? an awkward situation is if he had tried to kiss her a few times and didn't get that this wasn't a hookup, that's not what she described or what he admitted to
he can add that information and I think that's fair, it doesn't also make it not an attempt to control the story in his favor
Jack Ross
He didn't provide his own complete account of what happened. He literally just accepted what she said and then threw in that she was his booty call to muddy the waters. You can understand the dishonesty of it when you see his whole rationale behind his response is impulsive and stupid.
Brody Cox
as in it's both a. fair that he wants to add context to his behavior (with the motive being it's the truth, but also that he knows it will make him sound better) and fair for that added context to not alter people's condemnation of his actions
Camden Gray
Sam Kriss's stock is going up here when its gone down literally everywhere else, my sides.
Christian Richardson
lol why is this so hard for people to get
Owen Jackson
...
Levi Gonzalez
his stock hasn't "gone up" there's just more resistance to going full Vampire Castle based on a reactionary TERF facebook story. I don't think anyone is a bigger Sam Kriss fan today than they were yesterday here
Christopher Allen
The fact that she was fucking him before makes her "mockery" here so fucking insincere lol.
Jeremiah Powell
Or the part she doesn't admit that she's turned up to a booty call.
Logan James
What's the Vampire Castle?
Blake Hall
It's the Cathedral but for "leftists"
Connor Anderson
Spooky fucking place some little fanged shit won't let us leave.
Bentley Carter
tbf she was invited on a theater date, it's not like she popped over his house at 2am and was confused that he wanted to hookup
an essay by the since deceased mark fisher that pissed off the online left a few years ago and that amber references…too much
sup nerds, I'm getting my dick sucked right now as I read the complete works of Bordiga
shit is SO cash
lol peace my dudes
Eli Cook
based
looking forward to the rager at "your" place, my man!
Angel Allen
Damn, I wish I had read this writing by Mark Fisher (peace be upon him) before my so-called comrades attacked me with an allegation that did not have any sort of genuine evidence.
Too late though I suppose :(
t. Sam Kriss (ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ)
haha #based :)
Jose Rodriguez
Sam Kriss was a martyr for the movement.
#FreeKriss
#Rape
Caleb Gray
Go back to twitter and stay irrelevant you little fucking troll. Get a real job and stop attacking leftists in the hopes that whatever lame e-career you are trying to launch will ever take off.
Gabriel Stewart
sam kriss literally on suicide watch or he would be if he didn't have his parents money to save him now that his career is ruined
Eli Price
the absolute state
Nicholas Cooper
how the fuck is he not aware of his ethnicity and gender is he retarded? Also How the fuck is Russel Fucking Brand from a working class background? He went to a private boarding school for fucks sake
Cameron White
Where does this mentality come from that socialism is something you begrudgingly advance because it meshes well with identitarian struggles, and if it there’s any problems tangential to that aim why bother? Why is the left absolutely infested with people who can’t understand that socialism is itself desirable? Do none of these people have a job?
Eli Evans
I'd go back to Twitter but my mentions are full of meanies accusing me of #RAPE
so much for leftist solidarity
JUST
Evan Nguyen
Identitarian groups have way more money than vanilla socialist orgs. They also have more backing in academia. I think that might play a part in it.
Jonathan Hernandez
Wow, it's almost like brocialists' heroes are all retarded…
Cooper Gomez
this sam kriss thing is just a good reminder that a lot, and i mean a lot, of the leftist twitter personas are just people trying really hard to become part of the media class. the fame, connections, money, career prospects etc are the things they're after first and foremost. stop evangelizing these people
Isaiah King
Your problem is that you refuse to do both why can't you be for socialism and the struggles of the oppressed women and minorities? Like why is one more important than the other? Faggot?
It's purely because you are brocialist gamer gate cucks and the feminists are correct about your toxic white male identity clouding your entire worldview. You don't want to talk and acknowledge the struggle of black bodies because you are a white fucking man who cannot conceptualize and understand that struggle so you prefer to ignore it and not talk about it at all in favor of woman hateric humour
Ryder Martin
Alright fuck it I'm on the TERF's side. Count me in for the witch hunt.
Mason Taylor
Yeah so what. There is barely any part of the media class that is leftist and the parts that are are being destroyed (alternet et al.).
Anthony Thomas
>people trying really hard to become part of the media class. the fame, connections, money, career prospects etc are the things they're after first and foremost
Austin Price
These social climbers don't want to promote leftism though.
Jack Davis
wow its almost as if there is a certain Tribe that is known for social striving 😲
Adrian Gutierrez
What does it mean that socialism which has hitherto been grounded in Marxist materialism is quite popular these days with people who don’t care about facts?
Jace Lee
posting unfunny reply in search for (You)'s, please be generous
Andrew Diaz
Missing the point: the posts
Josiah Edwards
Wow, it's almost as if there's a certain group of people known for blaming every social ill on the Jews 😲😲😲
Austin Hughes
you know i find it pretty easy not to sexually harass women. granted i'm a virgin with very little friends and also who hasn't had a gf in this decade, but even a complete fuck up at life like me knows not to grope women/appear at their house in the middle of the night and refuse to leave/threaten them if they report said harassment/etc
maybe the incels were right. it really seems like men who have the looks/money/social status know they can get away with shit like this so they just treat women like complete shit and then women go on and become ultra feminists talking about toxic male masculinity.
maybe it's the type of guys you hang out with idk
Kevin Wood
Social interaction is actually a complete clusterfuck which is how leftypol can simultaneously be full of autists, chads, sick of this sort of song and dance, and hate incels.
Dominic Perry
He doesn't throw away everything he believes about communism, that's a ridiculous interpretation. I mean, it's actually ridiculous. He's acutely aware of his muh privileges and too cavalier about them, at worst. He's also really pretentious about social status and customs.
This girl is not actually afraid of Kriss and it doesn't appear she's actually in even low-key danger that warranted this "call-out". Kind of shown by the fact that everyone use their imagination to claim he's a serial rapist and make direct comparisons to weinstein. She made omissions that she should not have, people are upset that him adding them to the record actually did change the larger picture (he did not make an alternative account, nor did he encouraging others to disbelieve her). It's just something we have to pretend somehow makes Kriss worse for doing.
There is something unfair and dishonest here in how that this was presented, and how it's being treated, and how it's supposed to be resolved, and it's not just "identity politics".
Ryan Hall
you're just a beta male bugman you are already firmly enslaved on the femenzi plantation
Adrian Lee
autistic incel-hating Chad who's sick of this song and dance here, can confirm
Hunter Richardson
This is insane. I thought these people had all gone into hiding after Trump got elected?
Justin Kelly
You're overthinking this. There's a wide range of acceptable behavior depending on context. Sam was just autistic and couldn't read basic body language.
Julian Gray
Sam Kriss is an obnoxious richfag with a history of joining idpol witch hunts, I should probably feel worse for him now that he's on the losing side but whatever, lie down with dogs and you get up with fleas.
Levi Perry
LEAVE HIM AND HIS allegedly FAILED ROMANTIC COURTSHIP ALONE!
Luis Gray
Reminds me of Joss Whedon.
Ethan Moore
I mean, probably, but he's not deaf there's making someone uncomfortable or annoyed or even threatened bc you're not picking up on body language and then there's being told to not touch someone and then repeatedly doing it again and again- that's trying to override someone else's wishes and bodily autonomy for your own gratification, not just being awkward or autistic
Camden Robinson
sam posts on /r9k/
Luis Garcia
Why didn't he just bail on her?
Logan Parker
DRINK IT
*flick*
Juan Lee
because he was desperate for some pussy
William Price
You're clearly exaggerating.
Xavier Adams
do they serve wine in wineglasses or cups at the (student) theater? buying wine to class up a situation but it's in a solo cup – that's no way to treat a lady. at the same time, if it's in a wineglass, isn't the "flicking" precarious because it could spill?
sam, my man, get it together!
Alexander Nelson
Girls that repeatedly hook up with spoiled brats aren't lady like.
William Carter
This downplaying is hilarious. Doubly so because it's only going to encourage chads to keep treating women like objects.
Oliver Russell
*tips*
Evan Russell
If only you could read a short essay and find his elaboration on that point written clearly
Logan Myers
Lol so now Mark Fisher is some retard because you have trouble reading and have a grudge. #twitterleft everybody
Brayden Lewis
I'm only downplaying because I think you're wrong on this. I wouldn't downplay it otherwise. Appropriate sexual conduct is important, but you're wrong on this bit. Sam acted like a total creep, but I doubt he consciously wanted to "override someone else's wishes and bodily autonomy". They had already had sex several times before, and it seems like Sam just wanted to get drunk and skip to the sex. The dude misread the situation.
Hudson Ward
made me think
Dominic Lopez
i'm in nursing school and 90% of my classes are women
Wyatt Young
Are the other 10% gay?
Robert Cooper
Their point is that you're not in any sexual situations, so not sexually harassing people is generally a given.
Luke Martin
so you find it hard to become friends with women makes me think
Ayden Thompson
Do you seriously think you need to be in a "sexual situation" for harassment to occur?
Asher Wright
Most sexual harassment/assault is done when you're familiar with the person, contrary to popular belief and the number of tv shows you've seen with a rapist hiding in a bush. If you're unable to even make friends with your coworkers than it's clear you don't develop much of a rapport with them.
Jaxon Hill
The few friends i have (3 of them) are all women lol
Jeremiah Ramirez
That's not what I said. Like said, most sexual misconduct happens with people who are familiar with one another.
Dominic Long
there's nothing richer than incel analysis of social situations
Samuel Hernandez
Your attitude is just as irritating as the hatred of women espoused by the no gf nazis. If you want to live a sexless life that's fine but don't tell everyone else how to conduct their sex lives.
Ryder Johnson
that's not really what i'm saying
i'm saying screaming about toxic masculinity probably isn't going to help much if women don't change their dating habits.
Gabriel Walker
What if womyns want chad to treat them like objects?
Eli Morris
Damn I just want to be happy that an idpoler got idpoled but apparently we have to litigate this for someone who barely wants to litigate this for himself. It's a writer that can't even write his way out of a PR situation, a bougie pompous ass, and the lead on dozens of witchhunts against way more useful leftists. Why is he useful to the left again?
Ethan Myers
Then feminism is fucked in the long term
Samuel Price
He wasn't, but ironically he's associated enough with the "dirtbag left" that he's a target. The same people he developed his politics around are now cannibalizing him.
Brayden Fisher
Why are you useful to the left again you piece of shit?
Oliver Wright
It's not about him really. It's about who is next after him. The twitter liberal SJWs have been itching to go after the chapo types for a while now. The only way to get out of the castle is to close ranks and tell them to fuck off.
Mason Morris
But that's good. This is the perfect opportunity for the left to dissociate itself from these ecelebs. Chapo isn't a fucking movement.
Jeremiah Rodriguez
t. butt burglared nu male
Jordan Lewis
Calm down Kriss, you'll be ok it's not like you needed the job.
I agree that the whole vampire castle thing sucks shit but if anything he deflected from the Chapo "fuckup" pretty hard. Hell, even Mullen is looking better this week and Josh could've probably kept his job if he'd just rode it out and let this overtake his own story. And I don't consider defending someone who leads his own idpol witchhunts to be "closing ranks", he never belonged with us in the first place and was just making callout culture on the left worse, not better.
Easton Bell
"Movements" exist in multiple spheres. We need to build an actual left wing mediasphere in America. The only way to do that is to tell the SJWs to fuck off. Propaganda is important no matter what schizophrenics like Rafiq say.
Mason Morgan
This. The hell spawn of reactionary white flight suburbanite boomers have absolutely no revolutionary potential.
Christopher Foster
We don't need to tell SJWs to fuck off, we need to demonstrate how socialism would disempower the bigotry they suffer.
Chase Scott
Lmao, more man than you are, faggot. I'm not the one fellating a small-time, no-name, nu-rightist eceleb on a leftist imageboard.
Ryan Wright
There is no potential in America you fucking moron. Until its empire is gone there is little point in trying to build a Leninist-style party. All you will do is end up with a group of 20 or so Jason-tier LARPers.
Julian Cruz
Nothing manlier than aching for a strong monarch to come and lead me, and writing about it on Twitter
Jaxon Harris
Yeah because all that Daily Show propaganda worked during the obama years, right? Fuck off. Entertainment is not a movement. These twitter personalities just want to get in on the money train that is DC lanyard culture.
Joshua Sullivan
This! This! This!
Sebastian Reed
dafaq?!
Grayson Harris
Where do you think you are?
Ian Smith
Like hell there's not, you soft punk white middle class friends don't represent America.
Ethan Ross
The Daily Show was pure liberalism. They never had labor organizers or socdems on their show. What the fuck are you talking about? Are you a non-burger? This shit may seem lame to you but its super left here.
Owen Thompson
The american "left" is literally 2 years old. Before 2015 it had been dead for decades.
Do you really want to lead the leftist movement with nu-daily show?
Chapo is 90% twitter drama/commenting about other DC lanyards. You are mentally ill holy fuck
Mason Hill
in other non-news, the person who started off the latest freak out about mullen/cum town is on hour at least 24 of constant tweets about it, no try-hard vice bloggers are into it this time though
Joseph Bailey
From a left wing perspective. That's the whole point. Honestly it sounds like you are just mad that no one watches your lame youtube channel on esoteric theory or something dude. Mass media is EXTREMELY important.
Liam Lopez
No you hit the nail on the head. Western woman are spoiled brats that made an entire industry from taking out the trauma they experienced at the hands of chads they threw themselves onto men even more vulnerable than themselves.
Elijah Smith
lol
Kevin Lewis
yeah sorry man, there's not much else i can say other than "lol you think twitter/lanyard drama is a movement"
Levi Bailey
I never said that. I said that media was important. But yeah keep on thinking that organizing your little book clubs and never doing any sort of mass media outreach (not that it would matter since the MSM blatantly ignores left wing groups). I'm sure it will work eventually, even though it hasn't for over 60 years.
Nolan Scott
They caught a disproportionate amount of hell for it. I think they stepped on too many toes, they don't really stand for anything so there's nopolitical base that will stick by them. They're obviously trying to form a cultural oligopoly on the new woke left a LA the daily show, that's 80k a month is probably coming from an venture capitalist.
Lincoln King
You think referencing inconsequential lanyard tweets episode after episode is "mass media outreach"? Chapo had some good guests on in the past, but it's pretty clear that the show is fimrly in the "dumb internet entertainment" camp and the chapo peeps have no interest in going beyond that. You are just like all those delusional liberals who thought daily show was TOTALLY owning those conservatives meanwhile the democratic party lost over 1k seats of power in government.
Eli Bennett
The Daily Show insult only makes sense in the minds of the perpetually humorless dullards that make up the traditional left. Now, the leftist movement won't be led or defined by the Chapos, but they are a useful introduction and recruiting tool for normies. The end result of this witch hunt won't be a clean break anyway, it'll be "anti-dirtbag" brigades and committees deciding anyone that's ever laughed at a Chapo joke is a "proble.matic brocialist" who needs to be kicked out of the left.
And what's with using "lanyards" and other chapo memes as an insult if you're so against the twitter/chapo left anyway?
Justin Turner
i'm not against the show, idiot. i'm against the cult following that's already formed around the show and the hosts.
Nathan Long
lol, from zero to phil greaves real fucking quick. Yes, Menaker is old money but he's not the Mercer of the left. The 80k is well accounted for by pledges.
Luis Nelson
Lol what's with the hostility? I disagree with your analysis of the show and, more importantly, I think that the backlash won't lead to a clean break between organizers and entertainers that you envision (and I agree that that result wouldn't be so bad)
Jace Morgan
Kind of. It's topical and can make people laugh. You can't just have dry book club shit all the time or no one will care. Having an actual left wing media outlet of sorts is incredibly helpful.
Ethan Harris
They sound jealous honestly. A lot of people on Holla Forums are low tier """content creators""" who pump out hundreds of videos that go unwatched for years and verbose blogposts that might as well have never been written for all the attention they get. They can't help but hate Chapo, lame though it is.
Hunter Garcia
nice reactionary logic
Nicholas Carter
Maybe, though honestly if they are a content creator that's cool by me and I'd like to encourage them even if they have low exposure. I think we honestly just disagree on how this "split" would play out.
Angel Martinez
How was that user's post reactionary logic? You're really stretching the word "reactionary" here
James Hernandez
I love people who have an anxiety attack whenever they're forced to socialize with someone outside post-graduate careers in the humanities telling the Left how exactly we should act and what our sense of humor has to be
Evan Hernandez
Hahah it's funny because Sam Kriss was one of those crusaders who loved to kick dead dogs involved in similarly bullshit dramas
I remember Freddie DeBoer being one of the Good Guys who love bringing up Mark Ames' fiction as a works of serious rape apologism and attack people for wanting to work with him, do you think we'll hear any revelations about him?
Alexander Harris
I legit can't tell if this is poorly written fiction or if people in the upper middle-class grad student-ish Left just sound like all their dialogues are poorly written fiction anyway
Evan Price
Ames is virtually untouched by any of this shit because he was smart enough not to make the Exile or any related project gradually more "presentable" to mainstream progressives like Chapo is trying do. They found and trained an audience that laughs at bullshit like this, and good for them.
Michael Evans
Honestly it reads quite a bit like being a bit liberal with the truth and it sounds like Kriss is pretty shitfaced on arrival. Given this and it was over ten years ago I can't imagine either are particularly reliable narrators.
Juan Carter
...
Gabriel Roberts
Someone should keep a big file of them all and submit it to them at some point for a segment.
Brandon Jenkins
If "this guy I fucked regularly was pushy with me when he was drunk once" is enough to ruin a career then Chapo won't outlive 2017. Shit, every podcast made by sexually active people will be done by the end of the year.
Xavier Powell
THIS is how we make fascists afraid
Evan Green
freddie had a breakdown or something a few months ago and has been off twitter, in a fun twist he randomly and completely made up sexual harassment claims on some other writer (or the impression I got from several people was that it was 100% something he made up to spitefully win a twitter fight) then didn't apologize for doing that and wrote a farewell post about needing help to log off
Carson Allen
that sort of bullshit is exactly why he needs to be checked
Cameron Stewart
i say this with concern– they need to invent like a bracelet bipolar people can wear that shocks them when they're on their second or third hour of nonstop tweeting bc that seems like the cause of all of his and many other people's breakdowns, also he's just some writer, people get way too invested in defending his harmful shit + in attacking him for his dumb opinions that aren't hurting anyone
Jason Hernandez
reminder that Kriss bullycided Fisher to death
Robert Diaz
you dumbass he later tweeted that he agreed with fisher when he died.
Charles Long
Unforgivable tbh
Dominic Williams
...
Ian Richardson
who the fuck is sam kriss
Evan Johnson
Not seeing the problem here.
Christopher Sanchez
I seriously hope no one on here actually liked Kris. He's pretty much the " supports a workers revolution , but is actually a snobby rich trust fund baby " stereotype.
How long until chapo has to change their name? They aren't Mexican, so that means they're appropriating and making fun of the drug cartel situation in Mexico. And none of them have ever sold drugs and are in turn making a joke about black people selling drugs.
Irony left is dead.
Angel Richardson
...
Aiden Rodriguez
wow all you people are really scared. There's not even a boycott or the show. They're coming out with a book that's going to get them even richer. They're in full sell out mode.
Carson Young
I wish they had changed their name like a year ago, even if there wasn't a racist angle it's pretty corny like white kids who always do gang signs semi-ironically. I didn't listen to them for a few months after only hearing about them in the context of people going wtf is this name with three white dudes and assuming they were going to be basically the worst least funny and unaware version of cum town.
Gabriel Jones
Please go back to Reddit holy shit.
Dylan Fisher
where's you class consciousness?
Connor Brown
the name is like 75% responsible for people already left leaning being alienated and not giving the show a chance/having a freak out about it, that and at least half of the people who still bitch about them being small time podcasters/freelance writers who wish they were as successful and popular as the evil brocialists and are outraged that they aren't the left media darlings/likable
Jason Morris
reminder that phil greaves was right again
Christian Fisher
Where's yours? Cultural appropriation isnt real.
Benjamin Hernandez
that cultural appropriation episode was really the worst one they've done…and even if by your definition it isn't real it would have been a good strategic move to change it way back if it's a. the thing that people most criticize you for, whether that's the real reason or not b. is tacky and not a good name c. turns off potential listeners who aren't white and probably some potential guests
most podcast names suck and there's a strong case for it being useless to change it now, but it is an error they made in keeping it when it would've been easy to change it like last summer and whatever man this shit's boring
Nicholas Cox
You're the one complaining, famalam
Jacob Powell
same here, avoided it for months because of the fucking stupid irony LOL RAP MEMES name
Josiah Martin
left twitter always hated fisher. Angela Nagle mentioned in kill all normies how people on "the left" were celebrating his suicide because hatred of women.
Angel Morgan
This. Read the comments on the essay. It's a nice snapshot of how the SJWs were back during their heyday.
Blake Long
Ames isn't a very good writer, but he is quite a badass. A cool intellectual,
Mark Ames be my dad
Julian Lopez
AMERICANS
James Reed
that poster is right. 50% of the working class is female. lets go easy on those kind of jokes.
Jordan Lee
how can I work out my pecs without having them look like pic related?
Andrew Hernandez
...
Levi Sullivan
Why do Twitter SJWs hate Chapo so much? I thought they were one of them?
Brandon Scott
refusal to denounce nick mullen
Jack Bailey
They're fighting over who's the bigger, bledding vag liberal.
This Thread deserves the anchor. It attracts Chapocucks, twitter ironybros and Redditors.
Ryan Williams
Fuck off you limp wristed virgin.
Mason Long
What's with all the redditors in this one specific thread? Do they have it bookmarked and come back here after being told to fuck off from everyone other thread or something?
Charles Cook
I say we sage this shit to Oblivion, boys. The redditors that have been infecting this board aren't going to change or leave until this idpozzed eceleb faggotry is purged.
LOCK HIM UP LOCK HIM UP LOCK HIM UP LOCK HIM UP LOCK HIM UP LOCK HIM UP LOCK HIM UP LOCK HIM UP LOCK HIM UP LOCK HIM UP
Daniel Adams
Come on Reddit
Carson Bell
Man we really should start doing this to idpolers.
Aiden Perry
Hello generic cancer.
Oliver Thompson
Sex case! Sex case! Hang him, hang him, hang him!
Adam Jones
Is Jess a blairite, is she going to get the axe
Isaiah Bennett
Oh but I'M the cancer?
Also isn't it funny how moments after I suggest we purge a moderately aloof thread, it suddenly jumps into overdrive.
Really makes you think.
Nathan Bell
Yeah, she's a shit stirring bitch too and a massive opportunist.
Sage negated.
Henry Cooper
they're white and say retard
Austin Johnson
🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧Kriss🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧 got what he deserved. Nvr forget
Ethan Murphy
I though this “New Left” in America and the rising leftist media sphere was really going places, at least modestly since a true Left in America has been dead since at least Clintonism. At least some mainstream politicos seem to be picking up some of the more basic SocDem ideas I guess. Better than nothing, but come the fuck on. How can people who’ve managed to build these kinds of things or make careers in writing manage to fuck up on such basic PR shit?
Jason Bailey
It's literally the fault of just a few autists. All the work that's been done over the past few years is going to crumble because of a fucking autistic jew.
Ryder Baker
nah they're done. every utterance & every guest will be combed over & apologies demanded.
Kayden Roberts
...
Grayson Nguyen
This shit'll pass. It'll exhaust itself, the energized left base in America is bigger than a bunch of internet subculture fuckups.
Jonathan Perry
The twitter “leftists” are mad at Cum Town again.
It drives them fucking crazy that they can’t get Mullen fired lmao
Sebastian Cox
SJWs just won't let go. Pretty ironic considering Kirss's past.
Owen Green
Good thing they're irrelevant outside their torture chamberes
Daniel Garcia
That's where you're wrong, the left literally cannot take over the US while boomers are still a voting force. By the time they're dead the world will have ended due to nukes, climate change, or both. Any American leftists should cut their losses and find a place that isn't quite as reactionary.
Hudson Cox
Because for a lot of these people the Democratic Cops of America and left twitter is a social club. They’re more interested in friend policing each other than doing anything political.
Owen Johnson
when did they stop being mad
Christopher Turner
It calmed down for a while, but I think it’s sparked up again because some insane cunt has been almost nonstop harassing shanevader for being a Cum Town fan.
Christian Nguyen
the online left is done
Aaron Cox
I can elaborate, this dipshit here probably read a dumb essay posted on Vox the other day which linked the Szechuan Sauce riots with … toxic masculinity.
Jackson Myers
I can't think of one bad thing that sjws don't blame on toxic masculinity
yes, gamergaters, defend rick and morty fans to the death. nice praxis you got there
Asher Morales
what's a gamergater?
Henry Walker
nobody knows
Brayden Brown
Someone who murders their father for being "leftist"
Julian Perez
I don't get it, where does the game or the gate figure into it?
David Jones
Or maybe both R&M zombies and pearl clutching Vox sucks.
Man, being an enlighted centrist worked this time.
Nicholas Torres
Literally who
Andrew Roberts
she's been going for two days, last I checked she was @ing past chapo guests to yell at them, this is a standard meltdown like what used to happen on forums and then on tumblr- I'm half expecting someone to log on saying this is X's boyfriend and she cried so much she had to be put in the hospital and she's in a coma now and so on best thing to do is to not engage and let her and however many of her one thousand followers who care tire themselves out and move on to some other overreaction the same and way worse has happened in every "fandom" for every moderately successful cartoon show or whatever for the last few years, people are going to act out their issues online, that doesn't make chapo or cum town or the future of the left doomed
Jace Ramirez
No, it's just that we don't buy into stacy feminism.
They only go for chads, who treat them like objects and then when these stacies get BTFO by chads they go crazy and start screaming about how all men are shit. Sam Kriss was pretty obviously an asshole limousine liberal. She chose him because of his money and fame. When I make bad decisions I deal with them like an adult. I don't come crying to the internet for pity and attention.
*flick* DRINK IT
Robert Price
lilmissagitated is a hottie, i'm on her side
Thomas Turner
the shanebader person is almost as disturbed as that girl for going back and forth with her every 5 minutes for over a day…just block each other and move on sometimes never stop posting is a calling, sometimes it's a disease
Tyler Gomez
*flicks your fragile nuleft coalition*
Nathaniel Edwards
*flick* DRINK IT
honestly…proof that "rape"(-adjacent) jokes ARE good and funny
Blake Hall
Hit the nail on the head like a motherfucking carpenter. There is a strange breed of people who live for this nonsense, no matter the topic or social group, they are everywhere. If there were one group that deserved to be removed through eugenics… Anyway, it's just a thing that happens with sufficiently large and permeable social groups; you get these shoals of drama fiends that roam the waters.
Owen Watson
I just read the stuff about Shane and his tweetstorm, and good fucking lord, all this shit just took a dark turn lmao
Luke Hall
Hopefully this shit all goes away once the left becomes sufficiently mainstream. It won't. These social climbers ruin everything
That's what happens when idiots start putting these leftist twitter personas on a pedestal. The social climber parasites realized there was money and fame to be made and seized the moment. Now lefty twitter is filled with cunts like sam kriss who just want to be part of the media class and will say anything to get there..
Camden Rogers
Pretty sure that has always been the case.
Luis Wilson
I hope Nick rapes every one of these women with no empathy or forgiveness
Although fuck this chick for the "this is who cum town fans are" bit, I'm sure a lib retard could use the same logic to say this is who Bernie supporters are, or who Socialists are, etc
Arthur Chu is known for making creepy sexual advancements though.
Isaiah Martinez
WILL THOTS STOP BRINGING UP PEOPLE'S LIVES TEN TO FIFTEEN FUCKING YEARS AGO
I WANT TO SHOOT THESE THOTS
Joshua Phillips
dady has a long history of being terrible and being hated from the right of course and also from other feminists/the left she used to have a blog during the mid 00s feminist blog boom (where we also get dumbasses like jessica valenti, amanda macaroni, and most other 30 something white feminism careerists) with a mix of good content from others, ok stuff to bonkers stuff from dady, like most of those people she's moved on to writing for elle or the guardian or some shit, not really worth trying to mess with because they're already the old guard that no one cares about and and if she had any power to take anyone down like she tries it would have happened/hillary would have won lol
John Ross
Lmao give me a fucking break. The only thing Nick is in danger of harassing is a home depot employee asking about new power tools. These people literally think that jokes are worse than the act and the cover up
Aaron Jones
when will people realize NEVER APOLOGIZE not for rape, pedophilia, nothing!
Matthew Young
Kek, good point.
Joshua Evans
No you don't understand I literally can't breathe if I hear Nick Mullen's name because he's obsessed with fucking and I'm not at all obsessed with fucking
Please don't mention Nick Mullen it makes me wet and I can't breathe, every time I see him I can't breathe, and I demand medical help for this
Easton Price
Remember the Stalinist motto: It never happened. It's capitalist propaganda. They had it coming anyway.
Tyler Lewis
Yeah that applies to 99% of it but I do want to be warned about the 1% who are actual pedos who actually distributed porn in the past
Charles Wilson
A little silly to warn them because they like a podcast you don't like, though.
Christopher Wright
HOLOCAUST AGAINST THOTS
I WANT A THOTOCAUST
Luke Brown
I always knew Nick reminded me of someone
Brayden Turner
You're actually supposed to, at the very fucking least, apologize for pedophilia
Oliver Sanders
The Andre's steak house bit is literally worse than what Weinstein did.
Bentley Cook
Why? Apologies literally never serve a purpose. If you're a pedo or a murderer or something no one is waiting for your apology anyway and no one will feel better by hearing it. It's literally an always-lose proposition.
Alexander Fisher
oh and sady also has (in her own words) bipolar or some kind that manifests in posting too much/attacking people for hours like freddie de/many others one day the time will come for some in depth article on the gr8 dady/section of a book on the rise and fall of post Clinton pre Trump online centrist feminism
Hunter Hughes
Oh man, I want to see inside her mailbox. I bet her password is something like womyn1958
Carson Foster
the vampire castle continues on
Luke Bailey
The fact that nobody has been able to hack emails from these woke-centrist dipshits and comb through for unwokeness is a travesty. There's zero percent chance she or anyone else in that circle hasn't intimated that she doesn't give a fuck about foreign brown people or had an embarrassingly late "woke" take on the latest idpol bs.
Brody Myers
Is post-leftism when you stop caring about leftism and just come by to watch the radlibs fuck everything up with their autism? Because I skipped the books on it.
Anthony Stewart
Cum Town is my personal rape holocaust a story but a useless Twitter Thot who published tweets as poetry and fucks men with beards
Benjamin Cooper
Reading Debord is close enough
Lucas Wood
that arthur chu guy has bad plenty and a lot of them have had racist "slips"/been called out, as long as they can still get media jobs no one cares though like, their hero is a woman who stayed married to a man she knew to be a rapist (and calling other people monsters for being 10x as many degrees removed from sex criminals is still their favorite pastime), there's no popping the bubble
Zachary Adams
Adam Friedland inserted his insectoid penis into me when I was abducted by other jewish insect boys
Drag him
Jacob Ortiz
Adam Friedland made me give birth to an insect
Nick Mullen made me give birth to a baby with butterfly wings
Branson made me give birth to cum
None of it was pleasant and I hate them all for what they've done to my uterus
Joshua Fisher
honestly post like this are more damaging to the cum town brand than literal pedophile fans. nice """"""""humor""""""" yall got
Thomas Smith
I'm not fucking joking you sinner
Jordan Fisher
Little known fact, Cosby really IS innocent. All of those rapes were just Nick Mullen doing blackface. He didn't even want to have sex with them either he's just really committed to doing a racist bit.
Colton Miller
Guy looks like more of a woman than half the thots people made the mistake of fucking
Jeremiah Howard
True True. We must bring justice to our community to protect it from the Mongel like Nick Mullen
What's wrong comrade? don't think i'm a real communist just because i'm a woman?
Jack Jenkins
Nick Mullen damaged my cervix
Jordan Jones
You thought you linked a problem
But the person who posted it seems like the real problem
Joshua Moore
Honestly, honestly, honestly,
Just doxx the thots
Julian Sanchez
is that her significant other? she's a total QT, i want to sleep with her and have her ruin my life with a rape accusation
Nathaniel Turner
You have to go back.
Aiden Baker
You're a fucking retard lmao
Matthew King
lol bugs cum sex rape LOL
Carter Sanders
The pasty blonde boy posted And now believes in black culture
Brayden Walker
What's wrong with y'all?
Justin Reed
...
Ian Taylor
kys
Hunter Kelly
Didn't Trots basically decide that pedophilia is woke now?
Leo Nguyen
Besides tumblrinas using it for ages to appear sassy, you could probably search the entire catalog and find this as the only instance of it on the board. They're a redditor that has come here to bitch.
it's really cool how liberals like this have rebranded themselves into being leftists and are bringing with them the exact same sjw culture from the obama era
Connor Richardson
There's like one article on Salon and an embarrassing history of it in the free love and gay scene, but that's about it I think.
Connor Peterson
she's @ing chapo asking them to denounce their fans on a quote tweet of some account with 76 followers with alt right in the bio
this is the same rallying cry (denounce your sexist harraser twitter fans that you totally control bernie!) from 2016, those berniebros are at it again! that said…this girl sucks, but her mental distress is probably real and her hypocrisy stopped being in anyway amusing like 20 hours ago
Elijah Johnson
Yup, apparently so.
Isaac Long
I'm laughing my ass off at her mental distress
I'm not even a dude, this bitch is such a fucking melodramatic thot it's unbelievable
Logan Barnes
Being from the south is hell. Unironically I want tumblr tards to stop appropriating my culture
Isaiah Torres
I just remember that weird IWW drama from the last year (portland I think?)
user, please, she is literally shaking right now. How could you even?
Mason Davis
tbh I do personally wish child abuse jokes didn't have to be made so often on cum town, if only bc it gets old after a while and is being used as a crutch most of the time/going for the most obvious edgy depravity/it bums me out being reminded of shit like that
apparently those screenshots of guns being sent from LA Democratic Cops of America members to a woman who reported harassment were…thumbs up not threats bc the group chat changed gun to the default thumbs up emoji sounds very confusing, more bs to come I guess
Nolan White
I forgot who it was that said it, but the worst thing about liberalism is making white women believe they're the most oppressed minority. These thots WILL take over leftism if this kind of shit goes unchecked. How about rallying around some FF15 workers instead of some random white thot losing her fucking mind on twitter over inconsequential bullshit?
It's depressing how when I tried to show support for my local chapter of FF15 I barely got any engagements on my FB/Twitter posts.
Then shit like this happens and people immediately jump in to defend the fragility of this white bitch
Sure, but bad jokes or even bad taste isn't a crime. If the issue was someone just saying it was lazy comedy it wouldn't be drama
Daniel Edwards
Still think women's suffrage and Feminism is a good thing, lads?
I bet you're starting to reconsider the whole Feminism thing right at this very moment. Babby's first redpill.
How much longer will you put up with the hysterics? Women are to be subjugated, end of.
Cameron Rivera
An Adventure, Sixty Five Million Years In The Making
Adam Foster
Unironically yes. I do still think it is a good thing, and mentally ill people like you and the thot who's trembling (not that there's much of a difference) who think we can't get along normally should have the least possible podium available.
Isaiah Phillips
I mean pretty people will always get a bunch of attention, but she doesn't even have 2 thousand followers/has no position of power and this will just blend with every other leftist/cum town fight in a few months
lol you missed the one where she denies she's using the same logic that people did when they blamed school shootings on marilyn manson
Andrew Walker
CUMTOWN HAS MADE ME UNSAFE BY BRINGING UP ORAL SEX WHAT THE FUCK SOCIALISTS
Parker Clark
Seriously though who cares at this point?
Isaac Ross
lmaaaooooo
Jace Robinson
It's happening as we speak and she's melting like the wicked witch of the west, might as well enjoy it
Easton Miller
Women are inferior to men. Your grandfather knew it, my grandfather knew it, all of the ancients knew it, all of the "oppressed minorities" you attempt to cow tow know it, and you too will one day know it.
Eli Hill
I wish any of these people denouncing cum town would liveblog actually listening to an episode
also I think chapo has cooled down with the subway jokes the last few weeks, which is good bc it was boring and tryhard from the start
Matthew Garcia
This reminds me of when people highlight Red Kahina. Like this person is clearly mentally ill and insufferable and powerless. Just move on, we don't need a Nick Mullen defense crew. She's offended, whatever.
Liam Sullivan
My grandfather died a long time ago and I'm sad he did.
But you're acting just as histrionic as the trembling woman
Nicholas Turner
This is funnier because she has an 8000th of Red Kahina's lacking charisma
Ian Jackson
I’m afraid I can't let you do that Dave. You're calling for the easing of women's perspectives, disgusting brocialist.
Noah White
You were right Holla Forums. Giving women the right to speak was a mistake.
Evan Clark
I hope that cunt gets raped again (if she even ever was and she isn’t lying)
James White
I am almost 1000000000000000000000000000000000% certain this is a Holla Forums poster who hates transsexuals pretending to be a woman
Nobody I know acts like this, none of my friends act like this, now grown ass woman acts like this. This is what a parody of being looks like.
Cooper James
wrong picture, even that could have been anyone. This is what I meant to post
As unhinged as she is, I don’t think she should be online. She needs to check herself in.
Kevin Reed
This is the new Aristocrats
Jason Rivera
It's not contradictory at all to feel sympathy for her and say she needs to log the fuck off. Honestly if she's really that unwell then the responsibility is on whoever is letting her go on like that without any intervention.
Nicholas Sullivan
THATS what she looks like? snapchat needs to be stopped
Camden Rodriguez
what the fuck am i reading
Zachary Morgan
I think I got blocked by him in a chain because I follow Felix on twitter. I really need to work on getting more. I think I’m only blocked by him and the North Carolina Republican Party.
Joshua Hall
I know it seems too crazy to seem real, but that account has 24k tweets.
It's real. This is where SJW/tumblr culture leads you.
Leo Ross
You're not blocked by Candice? She's basically your first default block guaranteed.
Landon Phillips
To be Read in As Gilbert Gottfried A Way As Possible
David Hill
like said upthread, this behavior comes from a long line of fandom meltdowns google like fake suicide + fandom
Michael Perez
goes back to at least forums/live journal/deviant art/basically any anonymous community there's always going to be drama, meltdowns real and fake, faked deaths and illnesses all part of being very online
Julian Barnes
We live in a police state, which is fucking terrible. But I get boners for punishment. Name, shame, and drag. Name, shame, and drag.
Luke Bennett
Abolish all cops, also Philip K Dick has repeatedly depicted a utopian society in his work. Read between the lines of the tweets. Call out any suspicious sympathies.
Hudson Hughes
Nice rack
Hunter Stewart
8/10 would rape
Jaxson Lewis
7/10 would ankle cuff
Caleb Cook
Someone link her this shit and say nice tits
Please. I'm begging for anyone to do this
Jordan Garcia
fucking thot
Hudson Murphy
If you're gonna be edgy try to at least be funny. I get that you're joking, but you look retarded.
Parker Martinez
Haha, don't even say anything. Just a retweet.
Levi Clark
get a load of this tone cop
Liam King
What future crime is he going to commit, also we live in a police state
Noah Bennett
As a former right-winger I'm not going to say that false flagging and COINTELPRO shit doesn't happen, but it's a lot easier to spot and as has been highlighted by others in this thread dis bitch be genuine in her mental illness
We need MoveOn to return to their roots and get leftists to move on from drama on the TL. Everyone in this thread should do one hour of FF15/healthcare shitposting on normie social media as penance for indulging in this shit show
Adrian Robinson
This. SOmeone with a twitter account should just keep @ing her with this pics until she logs off.
Joseph Baker
Man's a prophet.
Christopher Wright
You: *makes a pathetically unfunny joke* Me: "You look like a retard" You: "DON'T TONE POLICE ME YOU FUCKING COP. I WAS TOTALLY FUNNY ECKS DEE"
Jack Cooper
Go to a doctor about it Michael J Fox
Gavin Gray
You: Me Me: You Him: Us We are One
William Ross
He might be joking but I'm not. Would definitely rape.
Owen Nguyen
That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.
Praying4u user.
Henry Gomez
Jesus got raped by wasps as a child
Henry Reyes
Can you two just fuck each other non-consensually and wholly ironically already?
Reminder to never apologise. Sadly she didn't really give a shit about the Cosby tweet otherwise it would have been perfect.
Tell falangismo to fucking retweet the tits.
Carter Roberts
The cosby tweet was worse than that one time I lied about rape
Anthony Miller
Moved on to follow policing now.
She’s probably going to kill herself, mad cunt. Lmao
Parker Mitchell
Am I going crazy or are those two completely different sets of tits?
the ones on the right look smaller and more perky
Isaac Harris
If I had access to a printer I would absolutely do a cum tribute rn
Jeremiah Adams
UMM excuse me, get your facts straight, she said that's not her house!! it's her parents or relative or bf's (who, I hope isn't her bf still bc either he hasn't he noticed she's on day three of constant posting about things that traumatize her and that's neglectful or he knows and isn't driving over to lock her phone up and go on a walk or literally anything else)
Carson Baker
The fucking arrogance on this thot lmao
Joshua Reed
Posting is warfare, and war…war never changes
Landon Gray
Disagree
War has changed…
Eli Butler
The smaller elementary school friend begging the larger elementary school friend to pick his fights for him.
Connor Richardson
fuck it, give me a link to the tweet.
Christian King
Someone for the love of god send her the tits back
Remind her
Jose Hill
I love the radically transgressive juvenilia here on Holla Forums most of the time, it's fun. But I hate how unfunny the people who try to be transgressive by simply saying shit like "I'd rape her". There's nobody here to react to that shit, so the humor depends on an imagined audience that happens to disagree with what you said, it isn't even conceptually funny. Try to throw a bait and switch in there at least! Or maybe say it in a convoluted or contradictory way! Don't be so boring.
^^ has the right idea. Cum tributes are unironically funny, even if they're a tad played out at this point. They'll never not be funny.
Carson Brooks
What's up littlemissagitated
Aaron Edwards
Not an argument, you're an unfunny faggot, etc. etc.
Ryan Taylor
...
Charles Sullivan
I meant to say you're a joyless bitch but I posted early sorry I fucked up, hope you don't drag me.
David Young
But now we all have the Stav soundboard so we don't need an audience
She's yelling at people for expressing their sexuality in jokes and humor but its completely fine for her to show her tits to the whole wide world as a joke. She's a fucking hypocrite, and in all honesty, a danger if she keeps generating a following. Albeit she only has 1,000 something measly followers
This bitch isn't real. Everyone I know who's real, who's been through assault, has levity to it because fucking fighting it every day isn't effective or healthy.
I don't think she got raped. I don't think she actually ever had anything done to her, she's emotionally tied up to the lies she's created and she can't let go because her fucking face is on it now.
Someone needs to log her the fuck off
Grayson Morgan
Oh boy here we go.
Austin Jones
i would never kinkshame a loving tribute, but she's already melting down over small alt right accounts doing unfunny trolls or not getting obvious jokes and is stuck on a loop of feeding off of negative attention, she doesn't need more
Cooper Davis
That's my boys
Bentley Johnson
Post tits and you got a deal
Blake Gomez
Hoochie is good now
Juan Young
You protest too much you dumbass
Nathaniel Campbell
I may act like a thot, I may sound like a thot, but I wear clothes like a 37 year old mother and I'm not posting my tits.
Caleb Ortiz
Wear something showing cleavage I want to rate your rack.
Lucas Parker
There are no women on here
Bentley Bailey
I care about when someone popularizes a way rape victims can react to their struggles yeah. This isn't the way for people to do it, she's educating people on absolute bullshit, and to top it all fucking off I have no serious reason to believe someone who was raped would bring it up EVERY FUCKING POST
Anthony Diaz
post dick
Evan Parker
What about anfem witch
Gabriel Russell
...
Chase Smith
Yum
Brandon Long
God bless Cuss This is praxis
James Ortiz
Rape isn't something victims of it use as a god damn cudgel every other minute. They want to just ignore it. They don't compare their experiences to fucking podcasts. It's ludicrous anyone here would believe her or defend her.
Zachary Morales
good taste user
Benjamin Edwards
You must have missed when these twitter idiots were trying to go after virgil with a third hand anonymous accusation with no evidence. These people aren’t leftists, they want popularity on twitter and callouts are like blood in the water attracting them like sharks.
Aiden Lopez
What happen, flangisbro?
Joseph Sanchez
No I saw that. I fucking hated it as well.
Liam Bennett
the accuser doesn't want to come forward.
John Hill
*faaaaaaaaaaaaart*
Isaac Smith
The accuser just wanted to start shit but didn't want to finish it and have the catharsis she allegedly wanted by doing that.
Suuuure sure sure. Everybody who talks about this online is telling the truth and if you don't agree you're guilty of future crime
Fuck off
Alexander Edwards
I sometimes have a hard time believing Thots are humans
Landon Flores
How many thots have you fucked?
Austin Phillips
You don't even know who the actual victim is because no one has found her. You're just talking out of your ass pretending to be a woman on the internet.
Tyler Gonzalez
I just fuck friends. Who needs thots
Nicholas Russell
I was hoping she'd flip out at the joke but she just ignored it so lol whatever.
Isaac Jones
Schrödinger's Twitter Rape Accusation
Chase Sanchez
what the fuck is your problem? why are you accusing her of lying?
Isaiah Harris
We found her the other night you spazzy mong.
Blake Torres
I think she got a few of them sent to her since she deleted the tit pics.
Landon Watson
The amount of Holla Forums people pretending to be women makes me suspicious, sorry if I'm skeptical of randomly a year later something coming up about a random fucking pastebin so long ago.
I'll believe it when evidence comes. Until then it isn't true.
Jacob Edwards
there was a one sentence "call out" some lady posted on a bunch of people over a year ago and then the (very likely) fake text messages that has details that don't match up (14 v 16 year old, the girl was supposedly from Chicago where I don't think virgil has ever lived, he was in brooklyn during the time period described), my thinking is that the latter was inspired by the first and the part about the victim wanting to have the posts deleted was also part of whoever faked it- I'm not saying I wouldn't believe it if something fucked up came out, but everything about the story is obviously faked, esp the framing as the guy who posted it getting it from a friend that had conveniently since died lol
John Kelly
Thots lying isn't my damn problem.
Adam Gomez
Love to go on a cross country lolita adventure for no reason
Easton Bennett
Wait wasn't Virgil's the Rockford, IL girl?
Alexander Turner
how the heck do you know she is lying? it seems like you're trying to rile up people to attack her for no reason
Gabriel Ramirez
Just how high is the #chapobodycount?
Ethan Perry
The Unfollowing of Cussbro by the Coward Matthew Christman
William Anderson
Because I'm friends and know people who have been through sexual assault and I know that the last thing they want to do is bring it up for the whole wide god damn world to see every other post you make to bring down a podcast called Cum Town you don't like.
I know she's lying because if she went through sexual trauma she wouldn't be doing this shit. It just feels to actual victims as cheapening their own experiences.
I don't think she was raped, in fact I don't think she's mentally healthy obviously and I don't think it's beyond her capacity to lie about the one thing that generates enough sympathy from an online audience.
If she acted in any other way than this, I would believe her. But she's not, and I don't.
Adrian Ross
As long and real as the Soviet Body Count
Liam Phillips
yeah, and even the time frame if it was that emily girl doesn't match up and they had no interactions on twitter on any of her old accounts, also during the time period he was supposedly dating a high schooler he had an actual girlfriend who was his age if they wanted to fake some shit they should have made it a one time thing, how is he supposed to hide an illegal relationship for a year? tao lin should sue for the plagiarism of his actual creeper life story
Aaron Powell
Believe. Women.
Eli Green
who the fuck made you the arbiter or the expert on how sexual assault victims cop or deal with their trauma? everyone reacts differently and everyone has different coping mechanism. it seems you're assuming she's lying because she's attacking the cumtown. you're fucking disgusting
Jesus christ you people can't even troll correctly
Jayden Torres
I am having ridiculous amounts of luck by putting random dates into twitter to check completely unrelated things to what I find. twitter.com/lilmissagitated/status/713066350839795712 Here is where she names her rapist and provides screencaps
Eli Lewis
tv show? let's just say the boys have faces for radio
Brandon Gray
If this hoochie guy really is a girl stop giving so much attention to them. She's an attention whore. She just wants to be "one of the guys". Those females are the worst.
Bentley Rogers
I'm studying people who go through trauma, I know people who go through trauma
This isn't how you go through fucking trauma.
You don't understand, people don't want to remember rape. They fucking don't. They don't want to bring it up every post they make and relate it to their own feelings about a podcast. That doesn't happen. Rape is painful, rape is horrible, rape is what you try to forget. Just like any other traumatic experience.
She isn't responding the way someone who went through intensive trauma would. She's using it as a chip to shitpost. I find that disrespectful more than anything.
Thomas Wood
Hownew.ru
Stay BTFO
Gavin White
I'm one of the guys but I'm also not one of the guys make up your damn mind
Ethan Cook
Hm, no name attached. No phone number, nothing. for someone so dedicated they seem fucking limp all of a sudden.
Dylan Johnson
good
Luis Robinson
The name is inside the texts.
Eli Rodriguez
I hope chapo says nothing about any of this, I don't agree with the never apologize but this is absolutely the way to go here, as with every other time countdown to the joint cum town chapo episode that I think is supposed to happen in nov also shoutout to her for apparently not even deleting her chapo pledge
Angel Russell
I've watched Lifetime Network Movies with better dialogue than this come the fuck on
Kayden Bailey
Hoochie is one of our most historic posters and even though I don't always agree with her she's one of the few namefags who doesn't shit up the board so you can go fuck off m8
That makes sense. If it wasn't actually violent, fucking say no. Just say god damn no and put your foot in the ground. She's putting herself on the same level as women who actually were forced down with a knife against their fucking throat?
No fuck her.
Charles Richardson
is saying a girl with no audience before today has spent years constructing elaborate lies about being raped really the hill you want to die on
Asher Stewart
Of course he is
Christian Jenkins
You don't know online at all dude
Oliver Scott
What if the Tulsa Riots, but woke?
Adrian Thomas
Go talk to some random person how they raped someone I guess.
I still really don't believe her at all.
James Turner
Name a single time that an apology has helped any public figure. Just one
If you're such a newfag you don't even know how Hoochie is (at the very least to hate her) then you need to fuck off back to whatever reddit shithole you came here from
Jayden Price
Even if they fucked she's misconstruing the nature of rape itself to fit her life to shit on Adam Freiedland for making a joke about getting a blow job. She said it herself, it wasn't "violent". She wasn't drugged.
As far as I can tell this is domestic abuse. Not rape. Not that it's any better. But it isn't rape.
Jace Reed
I gotta be honest, the way this bitch is handling her life is so disgusting to me that I don't care. Dig more ######receipts it just doesn't sound anything like the way she's putting it, if it's real at all.
Ayden White
so tl;dr she was a known thot in campus and now she's a super woke online feminist…? LOL!
Ian Ramirez
you don't study shit you fucking scum. such a fucking standard would make it so much harmful to the victims. imagine thinking that talking about the experience would make you less authentic and make people suspicious of your story. who would fucking want that? victims should be encouraged to come forward and talk about their experience and be open about it. and many do. for many it drives them to activism and campaigns of education and awareness to warn people and give support to victims. through that they are very open about their experience. you're fucking shameful and should feel disgust of yourself.
Noah Anderson
She made it all up. They fucked but it wasn't rape. It's close to rape but it doesn't count. < You are here He didn't stab her beforehand. It wasn't SuperRape. She's not dead.
Elijah Nguyen
Phi Psi on my campus was very rapey as well, interesting this is a national issue
Cooper Young
Rape is violent and traumatic. If it wasn't violent it wasn't rape. If it wasn't her being drugged, it wasn't rape. I don't make the damn law sorry.
Henry Ward
Which of those steps is the one were Nick Mullen loses his job?
Charles James
The more I dig the more I feel the same pity whenever I see Chris-chan or some other genuine autist get dragged by edgy teenagers
this entertains my inner gamer but even I can recognize that this woman is not worth the electrons required to dunk on her
William Kelly
But it's interesting that this fits into my idea she's fucking exaggerating past harm to herself as a shield she can wield against others.
Adam Lewis
who cares
Gabriel Long
whatever man this shit's boring
Michael Howard
Victims shouldn't be forced to come forward until their fucking ready. Be it domestic abuse, rape, sexual harassment. Trying to force people out of their comfort zone about personal emotional trauma is a stupid fucking idea and you should know better.
Robert Reed
Fake trip lmao
David Ramirez
I didn't say forced you fucking moron. I said encouraged.
Nolan Bailey
yeah, all these posts are very sad and I wish she would do something that helps her, which is the opposite of what she's been doing for going on three days
Xavier Turner
I am certain you've just made this up.
Ethan Martinez
Don't encourage something that doesn't involve you in any way. I hate this shit. Don't encourage people to bring up their trauma, let them fucking deal with it themselves and come to their own conclusions. Bringing it up could make everything worse.
Bentley Perez
...
Samuel Gutierrez
Rape is when a non traumatic, non violent event occurs that does not involve substance.
It's actually just domestic abuse. This isn't me saying domestic abuse isn't terrible, this is me just saying it doesn't fit the definition of rape.
Jaxon Reed
This is mostly sarcasm.
Christopher Walker
Bullshit, rape can occur through coercion or abuse of power too. And the story in question involves use of physical force anyway. You're opting for a narrow, strictly legalistic sort of definition in order to minimize that a sexual assault (in this case rape) took place. I mean I don't like this girl either but I see no reason to deny the fact that she was raped. Rapes can occur within relationships or marriage. Denying this is bullshit reactionary "you can fuck your woman whenever you want" bile that I would expect more from a nazi.
Jeremiah Gonzalez
It's okay here is the states legal definition.
Ryan Ward
Being massively online is absolutely an addiction, the same way people spending days playing Starcraft
Adrian Rodriguez
Sexual harassment can be terrible but it isn't rape.
Rape, is something far far worse than what she's fucking describing.
Isaiah Foster
Womyn will never respect you numale consent mongers, you might as well drink bleach the world is ALREADY over for you considering how domesticated you've allowed yourself to become reading the prattle of female incels form the 60s (dworkin)
Landon Long
Describe how her account does not meet the definition of rape. Be specific, I fear you are reaching the SuperRape phase.
Jaxon Lopez
I'm going to be everyone's favorite conservative uncle and say that it still doesn't meet the standard.
Kayden Wood
Hey hoochie welcome back
Noah Ross
Not all of us have to drug girls to get laid, sorry dude.
Lucas Torres
I say it fits the definition of abuse, but not rape. Rape is, far far more violent. It can be easily just as subversive but what she was describing seemed more like an abusive relationship or friendship.
I swear the term has lost all its real meaning
Josiah Hall
the obvious troll pedagogical debate isn't fun, what is fun is
Luis Rivera
At this point it would be best to just post genuine appeals to her Dad to seek help for her daughter, who is literally having a psychological break over a flame war
Jaxson Thompson
So what IS rape? Thus far you've only eluded to it as some kind of mysterious black magic when challenged to offer details.
Joshua Ward
I think, that knowing what I know now, people usually just don't bring up their rape this easily. If that seems like a cruel judgement, fine, loathe me I am the sinner. Crucify my tits as arms.
But I just do not like when rape is used so nonchalantly as a way to draw lines in the sand by someone who was in an abusive relationship.
This isn't me saying I don't feel bad for her, at this point I do. She's just, not doing a fucking good job at handling herself right now.
Yeah someone needs to just cut her net off. She shouldn't be saying this stuff with her face attached it's just a bad stupid idea
Ryan Collins
I should point out as well that your special definition doesn't even meet the legal one which you previously claimed to be falling back on.
Easton Long
You smoke and drink and abuse coke constantly in your diy spaces and egg women on to participate, what difference does it make? Numales leftists are generally far more "rapey" then dude bros who vote Republican who just want to knock a few back at the bar in my personal experience, maybe there's something to all of this after all.😆
Nathaniel Wood
Bull fucking shit no I haven't. Rape is when someone destroys something beyond your trust but your own body. It's when you can't see yourself as much more than a tool for decades. It's violent, it's corrosive to everything you are. It's literally making you question your autonomy.
It's throwing someone away through consciousness or unconsciousness.
I don't want to talk about the specifics of it.
It's an extremely severe kind of trauma that I don't think she experienced. If I'm mean I'm mean.
Logan Wood
lemme bash that gash you slut
Jaxon Jackson
If her dad is looking at her mentions someone needs to show him her tits.
Isaiah Bell
I can say for certain I was drugged by Felix Beiderman. I have #############################recipets, he left my room fucking filthy and I haven't gotten over it since. He doesn't pay child support either
Evan Carter
Ok I know I can be mean but this is just evil
Dominic Long
"Force" isn't "swinging your fists around like an angry ape" you fucking retard.
Jordan Rivera
you encourage them by eliminating the stigma around people coming forward and talking about their rapists, which is like a huge fucking problem you idiot. saying talking about your experience indicates that you didn't really go through it is such a fucking dumb and insane thing to say
Dominic Kelly
You have no concrete definition and are just piloting this on feelings then.
Lincoln Watson
What the fuck are you talking about
Brayden Phillips
And you put the majority of people who actually don't want to come forward at this time in the painfully awkward position of confronting what they never wanted to confront.
Let professionals fucking handle this, don't put it in the hands of a community, that's the worst dumbest stupidest idea
Anthony Wright
What the fuck are you talking about? Feel free to semantically pick apart the legal definition of why putting yourself on top of someone and sticking your dick in them without consent is not actually rape.
I once sat next to Felix on a bus for three minutes, I came home with MRSA and he wouldn't acknowledge his violence against me or pay for my phage therapy
Nathaniel Jones
I didn't say that, I said the opposite. That the account she described involved physical force. Did you mean to reply to me?
She's traumatized. I'm saying your standard for what counts as rape seems to be completely nebulous, it's whatever you're feeling at the particular moment.
Dominic Powell
what are you even fucking talking about. I said eliminating the stigma around people coming forward, not putting stigma on people who don't. there is a fucking difference between the two. right now a huge problem among sexual assault survives is exactly that stigma. you are encouraging it by claiming that because a woman was publicly open about her experience indicates that she is lying. you're so fucking dumb
Brody Wood
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Jaxon Young
Oh, you're replying to yourself. I thought you were mistaking yourself for me. I hadn't posted since posting the definition so I got mixed up.
Parker Peterson
not sure how i feel about this tbh
Michael Bennett
this post is violence
Ian Lopez
every. fucking time.
these people are so fucking transparent. they are using the left as their personal therapy center.
give me one good reason why we should tolerate people like this?
Cooper Adams
This is the real thought provoker here.
Parker Jackson
The way the community is handling this is extremely irresponsible and pushing people who don't want to talk about it, to consider it. Perhaps when they're not ready. A community's "advice" doesn't exist in a vacuum in this case. It has both negative and positive consequences, but I'm just not ignoring what's negative about it.
I am not stigmatizing anyone, other than this person perhaps.
I am saying that people need time to think about shit. Encouraging people to "come forward" usually does more harm than good to the person coming forward, you should at least agree with me on this.
She was abused and that's my hard honest opinion. I don't know what to tell you.
Wyatt Clark
You could tell me why it doesn't count as rape. But I don't think you actually care to be rigorous on this topic. You don't like her, so you're going to play this game. Fucking stupid.
David Jackson
What's baffling my mind is why you would attempt to start a more romantic relationship from someone within a group you've been promiscuous in to the point you're withholding your name. That's just going to cause so much fucking drama if it goes in any direction other than halting immediately.
Zachary Hughes
we shouldn't, they are paper tigers and not worth the electrons
Easton Garcia
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Sebastian Anderson
LISTEN. AND. BELIEVE.
Hunter Smith
I like how suddenly no one cares about the alleged assault now that the girl has been outed as a sort-of slut.
Nicholas Collins
I don't really agree giving the experience of people I know, coming forward was the problem to them rather than being pressured to come forward. in both cases it's bad we should make sure not to pressure the victims to come forward. but a negative approach in the sense of battling the stigma around coming forward without active encourgment is an argument I'm willing to consider.
in either fucking case none of this shit explains why you decided to discount the experience of a woman who went public about sexual assault on the basis that she was open about it in the first place. you are actively contributing to the stigma that hinders a lot of sexual assault victims to come forward.
Luis Perry
The obvious objection is that fucking a lot of dudes does not ever invite or excuse rape. She has a point that if a girl gets around it will be in someway accepted that she's going to get raped. Which is fucked up. She is handling this situation extremely poorly and humoring her on twitter is bad for everyone involved. But I can't get behind this sort of thinking.
Kevin Morgan
I know someone who was raped by their own cousin. Not everything is a stranger, in fact it usually isn't a stranger. That is where the emotional difficulty comes from. I know you may know some people, but women go their whole lives after such an event never wanting to discuss it again. Not out of stigma but out of, what I could only describe as horror.
I don't think it applies for everyone and their should be definitely more nuance to all of this.
Elijah Thompson
don't diminish her accomplishments. being named "campus bike" takes effort.
Joshua Allen
What I don't like is her bringing it up as a tool to beat people she politically disagrees with every second.
Benjamin Jackson
Was it rape-rape? How can you know?
Levi Ramirez
They were both 17 some shit and he masturbated in front of her in a locked room in front of the door.
Colton Moore
This cunt will never shut the fuck up. She thinks the world revolves around her.
Owen Hernandez
Sounds more like mild domestic abuse :^)
Charles Myers
None you're willing to provide it seems.
Kevin Moore
All the call-out culture people are like this.
Isaac Fisher
So…straight up ask her what she will do if Chapo does fuck all (which is the proper course of action)
What will she do? Organize a boycott? Make common cause with the alt-righters constantly masquerading as socdems to divide and conquer the left? Call the police or some dumb galaxy brain shit?
I'm literally considering signing up for the premium feed just to screen cap the receipt and tweet it at her
Dylan Rogers
Nothing you're willing to accept.
Chase Mitchell
Withdraw her $5 most likely.
Kevin Russell
I honestly hope she kills herself
Josiah Howard
Hoochie you are on fire tonight.
Levi Howard
I sure do love to petition for nuance while only providing vague definitional assertions that I never expand on.
Ayden Perry
Lol at this pathetic guy faving all of her tweets. He needs to stop trying so hard if he’s trying to get laid, the campus communal fuckhole isn’t worth the effort.
Jackson Jenkins
Maybe he wants to do some really sick shit to her like lock her in a cupboard and wank in her general direction.
Nicholas Sanchez
Is this a Shanley alt account?
Sebastian Jenkins
So wait is this the girl that Kriss almost-raped?
Brandon Phillips
Hahahaha she’s vaguely threatening suicide if she doesn’t get the attention she craves.
Benjamin Hill
What kind of help is she expecting?
Aiden Butler
No this is someone very mad at shanevader having a CP problem.
Brody Cook
no, that's a person in the uk who's user
Leo Taylor
thots BTFO
Ethan Sanchez
wtf, can't you report account threatening suicide to twitter and they'll call for help or is that facebook
David Williams
Since when did the Chapo thread become the "let's make fun of mentally ill people with 50 followers" thread?
Oliver Edwards
and at least half of cum town fans hate chapo or have no interest
Jack Jackson
yeah you can do that on twitter as well
William Morris
come on man, i just want to be a good comrade to her in this time of need.
Brody Turner
So one It was a dude jacking off in front of the door thats kind of on the lines of rape. Two she was begging him to stop and they were both minors. But then again you disagree with me when convenient on what rape is or isn't
Are you joking rn. I said if you don;'t include people who aren't fucking ready to come out, while encouraging everyone to "come out" about their sexual harassment, it creates an awkward situation for a fuck ton of victims, of especially rape.
That was my point.
Tyler Sanchez
yeah but who cares
Jason Davis
No I disagree with you when there was a big thing invented called the law which defines it for us.
Nicholas Cox
I just reported her for threatening self-harm, she honestly needs her account locked at this point for her own health's sake
Austin Gray
You disagree with the fucking legal code when it isn't convenient, despite appealing to it previously.
Where the fuck is your head, hoochie.
Connor Harris
if she really showed her dad how is he not worried/going to help her
good
Ian Ross
Reported her account for potentially suicidal behavior.
Ryder Davis
To be honest her using it as a cudgel is what is throwing me off. It's inappropriate for a lot of reasons and at first I doubt it even happened.
Maybe it did go as horribly as she's saying every second right now to insult podcasts but really. Comparatively I don't fucking see it I'm sorry
Jonathan Flores
Someone called?
Christopher Foster
there's other twitter users on here, twitter mods don't respond unless several accounts report in quick succession which I guess bumps a post up the queue
Brody Murphy
Really? I thought you couldn't define what I was saying? How could you now know I disagree with the "legal code"
Chase Evans
WHY WONT EVERY CHAPTER IN THE COUNTRY STOP WHAT THEY ARE DOING FOCUS THEIR ATTENTION ON ME?!?!
Isaac Sanchez
IF THERE'S MORALFAGS IN YOUR DIALOGUE WHO YA GONNA CITE? (SPOOKBUSTERS!)
Jaxon Sullivan
she's leaving the left and threatening to kill herself. wow
Ayden Nelson
EVERYONE IS FUCKING CHILDREN
EVERYONE IS FUCKING CHILDREN
EVERYONE IS FUCKING CHILDREN
EVERYONE IN THE LEFT IS CONDONING FUCKING CHILDREN
I WAS RAPED
STOP YELLING AT ME
And you wonder why I entered this situation skeptical as hell
Jason Moore
Go be with the people who respect you even less then you're going great with good ideas so far tonight
Wyatt Stewart
that reply by @halalyouth HAS to be a parody
Andrew Wood
If you don't think the rape in question is indeed rape then it follows you have your own definition, independent of the law. As it stands, it meets the criteria, she was forcibly penetrated while being held down and pleading him to stop.
Anthony Edwards
WHY DID THEY GIVE HIM A LOCAL METAL ALBUM AND NOT FOCUS ON THE EYES WIDE SHUT SEX CULTS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS
Jayden Torres
If I was a lawyer I think I would invest in opposing this case.
Zachary Reyes
If you were a lawyer you'd know what rape is.
Oliver Gutierrez
Daily reminder that rape is such a vague term that most countries' law codes have different definitions of it.
Ethan Howard
That's an absurd standard. Most countries have different definitions for just about every crime.
Adrian Sullivan
Just updating you to let you know most countries have different systems and definitions for every crime.
Ryder Harris
The incident in question would qualify in most western countries. Maybe this is legal in Saudi Arabia but then extra-marital sex earns you 100 lashings there too.
Zachary Anderson
As an aside, which podcast would Tomoko enjoy listening to more: Chapo or Cum Town
(When do these threads go into autosage? I'm new)
Christopher Rogers
It's a cyclical so every time you post the top post is deleted.
John Baker
this is rich. hysterical shaking driven-to-suicide-by-comedy-podcast girl vs hardcore race id-poler in a battle of who triggers who
What an absolutely bizarre reaction from that guy, these people are lizards.
Nicholas Bennett
Someone should just @ her and call her hysterical to really set her off
Samuel Edwards
they should start a podcast together
Dylan Campbell
She's already set off, that wouldn't really be doing much.
Matthew Morris
would honestly like to see them fuck, she may be crazy but she's still hot
tru
Carson Allen
holy shit… that dude is CHAD as fuck
he BTFO that white bitch so effortlessly. sad to see a fellow black man come to her defense in the comments though. disgusting.
Ian Allen
that was my first reaction desu
Christian Jenkins
okay this shitflinging isn't really fun anymore
Anyone listen to the latest chapo?
Hudson Foster
Really trying to get laid
Lucas Stewart
I wonder what her kink is. She seems like the type to enjoy rough painful sex like spanking with a sandal, hair-pulling, breath control/strangulation, general slapping around
sage for excessive horny levels
Nicholas Jenkins
The new Tim Heidecker one was really weak tbh, especially in comparison with the live episode and the one with Patton Oswalt.
Parker Sullivan
Dunno why they keep bringing him on. He's a mediocre comedian. I'd rather have Tim Faust come on again and talk healthcare for an hour since I walk away from that with semi-useful info I can spam at the normies. Maybe it's just Adult Swim nostalgia but his new live action shows are unwatchable
Even the reading series ripping on neolib dems or brainlet eceleb repubs were waaaaay more funny.
I'll sign up for premium when they invite Milo to speak and spend the entire episode waterboarding him on-air with Stav's used underwear
Grayson Bailey
RIP this girl's entire life after her twitter account
Colton Williams
Ben Shapiro needs to be destroyed on Chapo more than Milo tbh, people unironically think Ben Shapiro is smart because he says Keynesian economics don't work.
James Cox
ripping Shapiro's shitty novel was the funniest Chapo's ever been. If they ever did interview Ben he'd legit die.
Ian Mitchell
The Forbidden Episode with that tradcath guy is genuinely hard to get through. A full episode with Ben might give me a seizure.
Lucas Russell
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Jose Reed
I'm gonna need a link, that sounds like a great episode
my favorite thing about the monthly cum town freak outs is…millions of people listen to like stern and other talk radio that's just as "problematic" as cum town, not even counting all of he actually popular podcasts with big right leaning followings it's all so petty
Mason Thompson
nice going dicks
Parker Clark
No one outside of twitter is talking about this, stop being eternally online
Jonathan Wood
Holy shit this massive thread she’s doing now.
I’m genuinely worried she’s going to show up at Funny Moms or a Chapo live show and shoot up the place.
Luis Morris
Lmao is this guy talking about Dickfield?
Ian Hughes
"the following police @lilmissagitated 2m2 minutes ago More Replying to @lilmissagitated @CHAPOTRAPHOUSE @EMlNEMOBAMA i’ve had multiple girls who know nick mullen in real life say he is so entrenched in their social circles they are afraid to call him out"
I thought it was going to take a dark turn there until it got to the last part…translation: multiple women I @ed for two days tried to calm me down/some petty brooklyn media bloggers with grudges against nick dmed me also lol: nick being like the great gatsby, center of the leftist social universe! nick being even mid tier excellent (jokes and personal life) compared to what goes on in the ny comedy scene, which half the women she's probably bothering are also in
Jason Flores
Idpol Expert Attacked By Feral Mob, Maintains Emotional Meltdown
Christian Howard
is that a filter or did I freudian slip pr0blematic to excellent
also very wild that some random twitter girl thinks it's her duty to police the social circles of people she's never met who live on the other side of the country int he name of righteousness and progressiveness, including attacking other women for not replying to her bizarre demands
Julian Cook
i'm going to castrate nick mullen and present his junk to her as an offering and she will be my manic tweeting angel forever
Zachary Wood
I bet one of those women shitting on Nick to her was Eve Peysor lol
Jose Edwards
She probably would show up to a live event to "confront" the dry boys
What I don't get is why she (and about a half dozen other losers) are continuing to try and Make This A Thing despite already getting an apology out of Felix along with an additional tributary donation to a nonprofit of some sort. What is their game, what do they have to gain materially from being constantly online and mad at one of the more successful leftist media outlets? I don't see woke feminist twitter radicalizing officer cadets at west point.
There's literally no rational explanation behind this and yet here we are
Christian Howard
absolutely, she was gloating in the mentions of some post on it about how she was early on the denounce mullen wave (months after she was having pleasant back and forth with his account and also stealing joke tweets/making nasty jokes about her vagina being just like a baby that imo are worse than the mullen ones) and how no one listened to her wise counsel
Dominic Watson
I… I think she's done… I thought she'd be tweeting until we were all dead
Dominic Reyes
They want power and control. The worst thing you can do is apologize to them.
Angel Cruz
Since that person is making demands that Chapo and Cumtown cease producing for some strange reason, and since everyone in the thread decided that threat has any weight for some reason
Austin Jackson
also midweek chapo isn't up yet
Daniel Adams
The thing is, I don't even think that's their primary objective. I think they're just reflexively lashing out at a target they've identified as excellent and therefore a threat to them regardless of all proportion or evidence to the contrary.
It's like someone scratching holes in their arms during a prolonged psychotic episode because they feel spiders under their skin. Despite the fact that the threat is imaginary the woke feminist feels threatened and must therefore purge it from her body.
Gavin Brown
Just make sure you use the right saw for the job and he'd probably be fine with it tbh
Kevin Nguyen
I don’t give a hard fart about Cumtown as I’ve never found them particularly funny. Just have the Chapo gang adopt Adam as their new house son and hand Mullen over to the cabal so these people will shut the hell up. Iunno about Stav. Shame about Kriss being a creep though.
Whale Vomit is certainly dead now as I’m not sure someone who teaches feminist theory like Amber would want to further publicly associate with somebody accused of going “attempted-daterape” but I did really enjoy them as a host pair.
Eli Price
Nothing is going to happen to Chapo or Cum Town because of this. Every couple of months some naif from left-twitter discovers Nick Mullen and this shitstorm starts up again. Thus far the solution has been to just ignore it.
I'm also sad about Whale Vomit. It's possible Amber will give him a 2nd shot, because while she is indeed a feminist I don't think it fits very well with leftist thinking on punishment and rehabilitation to just forever banish Kriss for a mistake he made years ago. Especially if he's been confessional regarding his guilt. For now I'll just write it off as dead tho, rip to the good podcast.
Evan Walker
Mullen's overall comedic talent is more valuable than Adam's sporadic contribution to Chapo. Anyone who offers either one "up for the cabal" just because a bitch or two had a meltdown on twitter.com does make you a gigantic cuck though
Noah Rivera
She won't give him a second shot. Platitudes about second chances don't override common sense and self-preservation
Sebastian Diaz
What the fuck is the point of this girls freakout? Shes upset cause she doesn't think people should joke about these things that bother her? Why do other people have to police their language specifically for her i dont understand the freak out
Kevin Wilson
She wants to be the one to take down Nick Mullen once and for all
Eli Scott
Fuck. Amber is right in the middle of the two shitstorms right now since she cohosts with Sam and is roommates with Mullen.
Tyler Moore
I guess I don't think it should be considered mere platitude. We don't gain anything by ostracizing Kriss forever. Amber has stood up to consensus before and may do so again, we'll see though. I don't have great hopes.
Kayden Allen
His “one long shitpost: the podcast” isn’t entertaining or funny enough to force us to hear about this stupid screeching about him over and over, tbh. It’s a fucking epidemic
Aaron Ward
The whale vomit podcast, mercifully, hasn't recorded since the UK election - and dragging Mullen's female roommate seems like too much of a stretch even for these histrionic morons.
Owen King
Sorry buddy, but Nick can't get fired from his job and watching libtards melt down about it and throw a tantrum once a month is comedy enough even if you don't like the actual podcast content.
Gabriel Hill
this girl tweeted:
and immediately i was like.. doesnt he live with Amber, a woman and professor of like womens related issues…
Adrian Peterson
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Cameron Bailey
She's right, tho.
Alexander Wright
Interesting
Christopher Green
This womans thread is so autistic i can barely comprehend it. she is so incredibly butthurt over how the "left needs to be safe" like dude… politics isnt some fucking safe place for you to indulge in your moralist fetishisms. politics is a realm for building power and being an aware adult who understands the reality of the world which is that it is not the super happy safe place you want it to be, there is shit that needs to be addressed with serious perspective. having a fucking meltdown and posting photos of you crying online because some irrelevant NYC comedian with a shitty podcast made an ironic joke about "hey here is an ironic stupid statement about rape where the joke is that the thought of anyone saying this is absurd" is not only totally over the top but if people on twitter making bad jokes fucking destroys you to the point of crying and posting it, then you are clearly not in a proper position to be engaging with politics.
Cooper Wright
Amber is probably the biggest Marxist on Chapo and I don't think she cares about people getting mad at Mullen because she's close friends with Nick and knows how deep in the irony well he is. Nick doesn't care about politics, so it's funny he gets dragged as a leader of left twitter, his only interests are comedy, consumer electronics, trains, and power tools. He's too autistic to be a woman hater or rape apologist. lmao
James Ramirez
after a certain point it became more about being angry that she wasn't getting the attention she wanted/demands met from the chapo boys and the other associated accounts she was going after, even one or two of those people who did respond and were being kind to her and explain things in a nice way got shit on because nothing is ever going to be enough for someone who's gotten into this state
Robert Cox
I mean publicly he doesn't but it's kind of weird to be friends with only socialists and get extra defensive about OWS and working class issues in general if he actually doesn't care
Nicholas Ramirez
When will we no longer have to deal with people like that?
I don't mean just that girl in particular, but all the people engaging in a witch hunt over a stupid 21 yo drunk Sam Kriss grabbing some chick's boob once
David Clark
Yeah, that's what I meant. Nick has political views, but he doesn't care to be politically active. He's not an activist, he's never spoken on Chapo more than a minute and he seldom expresses his political opinions on cum town. He seems pretty turned off with the online left and call out culture, so I don't get why he's considered a prominent left twitter person when he's friends with left twitter people from before weird twitter started getting more political.
Levi Myers
Fooking this! Tired of these sheltered white bitches coopting everyone's struggle.
Jaxon Russell
Jacking off in the proximity of a woman is not rape, another example of feminists using real mostly poor marginalized females to expand their own muh privileges.
Jason Butler
Everyone's got an asshole, man.
Josiah Brooks
There's absolutely no way this story is true….
Ethan Howard
Not true, Nick is also friends with all of the Legion of Skanks guys.
Brody Edwards
The legion of skanks guys are actually all tankies
love that the D S A are trying so hard to destroy the podcast that made them popular. The left loves eating itself
Liam Roberts
you ever been drunk around cops, man? this can absolutely be true with the only think she's helpfully omitting is how histrionic/visibly drunk she was prior to getting into cop car.
Jaxson Nguyen
DSA got it's boost through Bernie campaign vets. Stop being so beholden to extremely online views of power, maybe you'll stop being so offended when one or two people have meltdowns.
Aiden Wood
And many of these people attacking them are former fans, too.
IMO, Chapo, Bernie, the Democratic Cops of America and the Left in general have been so consistently attacked as bigoted bros for no fucking reason in the last year that we're now experiencing our own version of that Liberal Centrist syndrome where you hate people on your own side for giving your enemies a pretext to enforce their narrative, instead of attacking that narrative altogether. I say Liberal Centrist syndrome because in doing so they remind me of those libs who think they can beat the conservatives at their own rhetorical games, and who panick whenever one of their own gives them a reason to accuse them of hating God or not supporting the troops.
Maybe I'm just projecting, because I do remember being a liberal and feeling like that, but inner Left tensions have grown so sharply in the past few months, and so much along those lines, that I do think at least part of it comes from that feeling of being negatively stereotyped by everyone, and the anxiety that comes from trying to prove you're not that stereotype.
Cameron Rivera
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Henry Lopez
I will never log off coward
Alexander Clark
The left is ripe for division always has, always will be. Identity politics, class politics, the different communist tendencies, neoliberlism, centrism, socialism, race, class, gender. Have you ever actually read about how communist states were established? Its a god damn miracle. I mean even after the soviet union they still ice picked trotsky If i were the FBI i would make the far left fight the center, the center fight the far left, i would make the feminists fight the men, i would make the feminists fight each other based on race and trannies. I would Make black feminists fight white feminists, i would make black feminists fight black men, i would make trannies fight feminists, i would make feminist fight trannies.
Holy shit it just goes on an on, the many fault lines to exploit and destroy you plebes
Isaiah Thompson
Neoliberalism is not something the Left fights about you simpleton
Colton Sanders
Now the call out addicts are trying to go after Jesse for jokes. This is badly they will scrape the bowl for their call out fix.
Ayden Moore
Ffs leave Jesse alone.
Luis Anderson
he's the one good thing left in this world god dammit.
Benjamin Ramirez
First they came for Josh Androsky, I said nothing because it was stupid. Then came for Sam Kriss, I did not speak out because I am not grabby. Then they came for Jesse Farrar, and fuuuuuck that!
Brayden Roberts
unless he has some dark secret he's fine if this is the worst they could find on him, I see the 'callout' as more a psa to men to not try to make women being hurt all about them, the folding laundry tweet is pretty tone deaf and annoying
Evan Brown
no it's not. the joke is that it takes a certain amount of drive to do bad (or good) things in the world, and being too depressed to do laundry means he probably won't be doing either. he's not absolving himself, he's saying he's useless either way.
Wyatt Cooper
ok that makes more sense
the creepiest thing about the people obsessed with hating chapo is how they constantly imply that the hosts are 100% sex criminals waiting to be discovered and getting very reckless and into libel territory with stating that based entirely on their own fantasies, there was some tankie lady who heavily implied that nick making jokes she doesn't like means he's bound to be a violent sex criminal and that amber better watch out before he comes after her!! almost as gross as when sady implied that e bruneig was or was destined to be domestically abused by her husband these people are so into their tribal hatred, very disturbed and goes far enough that it comes back around as very hateful and condescending to women, love to imply that women deserve abuse bc they interact with men who make fun of my bad tweets
Angel Rodriguez
Is it really that hard to guess?
Leo Foster
But she is also a women and we know women don't listen to cumtown.
Thread I found by searching Shane's name. It's some dude saying he too struggled with CP but never acted on it, and apparently there's a whole movement about this.
What a weird fucking place. I felt some grain of sympathy reading that, which makes me wonder if I should stop being online so much before I lose sensibility to virtually everything.
Eli Williams
KILL ALL COPS
Juan James
jesus christ feel no sympathy
Dylan Davis
I want to have awkward sex with Tomoko
Daniel Allen
yeah to anyone who thinks this sound outlandish I've have a friend almost get almost taken in when their friend was having a drunken freak out on the sidewalk outside a bar and they were trying to diffuse the situation
Matthew Flores
I'd rather fuck her autistic baseball otaku rival
Jackson Robinson
No, cops are all fucks, that's not the part I doubt, more so that six cops jumped on her unprovoked and that they put her in solitary for public intoxication. I've been in a drunk tank before, they're absolute shits to you, but this is above and beyond, especially considering that she's a fragile white lady, I'm assuming she's either omitting enormous amounts of context, or this never happened and she just wants internet sympathy points. Also, if her timeline is any indication she's highly prone to histrionics, so the idea that she made this story up shouldn't surprise anyone.
Kayden King
somebody did and then she deleted the tweet ahahahah
Jackson Evans
...
Bentley Gomez
good god what the fuck is up with call-out culture its so fucking mindless and embarrassing. its total masturbatory bullshit these people just wanna get off on inflating their sense of moral superiority.
Asher Scott
you're weirded out by pedos while browsing a board thats 99% percent cp haven?
Ethan Reed
ayy dose anyone have that link to the premium eps? new one just dropped
Latest Chapo premium ep is good but the 'serious' intro was gay
Colton Ward
Think I’m gonna cancel my sub and give the 5 to Cum Town
Zachary Allen
i really need to cancel my sub. i haven't actually listened in months. i feel like i've heard so many shows just epic dunking on le lame-o nyc lanyard pundits X:XD by this point and every episode just blurs together now. do they actually do anything else now?
Joshua Morris
The Chapo Extended Universe is good. Check out Felix on Episode One or Matt on Arsenal for Democracy.
Isaac Morgan
Give your money to Zero Books and FA2O instead.
Jordan Young
...
Tyler Hall
lol that no goals podcast is still getting $100 a month after deleting all their episodes and not doing any new ones for months
Easton Edwards
You ever get a chunky load?
Brody King
don't want to know
Lucas Taylor
BTFO
Kevin Lee
I mean true…but that's an improvement over declaring that user CommieBoyBae must kill themselves for tweeting "miss me with that gay shit" in 2008
Austin Anderson
I was so disappointed in the Nagle book, lady doesn't understand being extremely online/chan or tumblr culture pre-2014. Not a single mention of riley.
Oliver Hill
im just about to start listening but like honestly i thought it was a pretty good way to handle it. And it sets a precedent for all these future freakouts these losers have over rape and cumtown and stuff. They donated 10,000$ to fucking victims rights law center meanwhile these people are having petty fights about triggers warnings and the mention of rape in their twitter feed. They're being the bigger man and actually doing something that addresses the problem of rape instead of buckle in to the pathetic demands of these people.
Jace Martin
These "people" shouldn't even be allowed to mention Fisher's name considering the hell they put him through.
Ian Gutierrez
Surely those Danes will be satisfied with a one off payment!
Andrew Garcia
I'm loving Amber more and more
Hunter Evans
Amber and Felix have always been the best tbh
Jordan Reed
how did we get from "rape jokes normalize rape to people who are already rapists/predators" to "rape jokes create rapists"
there was also some long back and forth that's since been deleted where this girl says 'donating to this charity that helps to put rapists in jail does nothing! they must denounce rape jokes, that will help more rape victims' but I think she realized how stupid she sounded
Jacob Ward
Disagree. Giving actual patronage whenever hysterics start screeching at you is a good way to piss away money and not much else. has the right of it.
Nathaniel Taylor
If they never bring it up again other than donating to an actual institution, with $10,000, for just a bad joke at the wrong time
and lindy…is truly an awful writer and her argument is worse than I remember (and I'm not in the all jokes by all people are ok and can never be questioned camp)…me liking you makes rape jokes ok even if they're indistinguishable from the cheap gross joke your first year open miccer would say, me not liking you makes them bad and I get to yell at you until you're fired
"Here, I'll start. I made a rape joke once and I genuinely regret it. Two years ago, in my review of Sex and the City 2, I wrote:
SATC2 takes everything that I hold dear as a woman and as a human—working hard, contributing to society, not being an entitled cunt like it's my job—and rapes it to death with a stiletto that costs more than my car."
The donation is probably mostly for the cosby joke and was likely decided on before the latest twitter fit started.
Logan Barnes
I struggle to see how anyone can enjoy Chapo. Listening to Will alone was enough to turn me away from that garbage. At least Nick's autism doesn't prevent me from enjoying Cumtown.
Parker Jackson
I like Will.
Chase Wood
The vampires will be prowling the perimeter for weaknesses from now on & when they find/confect one, demanding something else. This is the start of death by a thousand cuts :(
Justin Myers
Pretty good way of deflecting the legitimate critique Fisher had of turds like Tim Faust. Fuck him. All Tim cares about is his online brand.
Henry Rogers
What did Cumtown actually do?
Mason Butler
they've been doing that since the start, best thing for them to do is to just not do anything fucked up as in criminal, never be a creep in the dms, and not make rape-adjacent jokes on social media
those are the only things that are bad enough that people outside of psycho twitter will care
the only thing they really have to worry about that's not in their control is if a gawker like case gets brought against them for making fun of some rich dipshit
Levi Carter
What a terrible image. Rape jokes are okay as long as you virtue signal enough? Give me a break, it's almost literally making a taboo out of it - only the initiated may utter the forbidden words!
As for the donation, it's a graceful way to handle things, but it won't do anything. They will still get assaulted for another joke next week - people that are known for never relenting even after apologies likely will not care about a donation either. I can even picture the line of attack now, one with a leftist spin: "look at those champagne brocialists, throwing money at the problem! Your money does not get to talk over us!" Something like that. Maybe I am too cynical about this.
Angel Ramirez
nothing, people are looking at the unofficial cum town twitter and freaking out over out of context quotes, but mostly the same ol going through nick's twitter feed
funny that nick gets all of the attention for being the evil boy, but adam and stav have done much worse, more immoral things int the past few years AND say jokes that are 'as bad'
Julian Anderson
Eh. I think everyone is blowing this up more than it needs to. You're forgetting the fact there's more likelihood that the alt right gets torn apart by this. I find that more likely than what you're saying.
Sebastian Sullivan
It’s funny that they can’t go after Adam’s crippling addiction to Chinese prostitutes because it would be anti-sex worker to criticize him for supporting sex workers.
Angel Reyes
keep in mind this is a very small subset of left twitter and even smaller of the left in general…but these people are insane and I feel bad for the Democratic Cops of America people who have to deal with every petty entirely internet based complaint
Andrew Wright
They didn't apologize or accept culpability for anything though. They didn't even imply they did anything wrong. They absolutely handled it correctly
Lucas Taylor
this is, impressively, the most retarded take so far. I can understand wanting the chapo boys to come out against their friends on twitter but why the fuck why the fuck would the d s a speak about fucking cumtown?
Nolan Cook
This cunt is still going on days later.
How rich is her family that she has no fucking responsibilities in life that she can afford to spend all of her waking hours melting down on twitter.
Levi Diaz
the wild thing is that she posted about going to a Democratic Cops of America led protest the other day so she is actually active offline, why this doesn't correlate to not getting how useless and petty her gripes are in the larger picture ?? who knows, getting mad online is an addiction for many, as is being a thirsty dumbass egging on the meltdowns of internet girls by telling them they're sooo right sweetie
Connor Williams
tbh I don't see how buying time with an escort is that bad, everyone's lonely and isolated as fuck and that provides an escape for an hour
I would rather apologize than part with 10.000 $ tbh. That's a lot of money.
Kevin Baker
not for a handful of people who make $1.2 million a year to sit around and make fun of twitter gaffes for two hours a week
Ryan Lewis
I was going to listen to the new delete your account episode, but of course the first guest is Jes Skolnik, a massive piece of shit who-ironically-is fine with being a rape apologist if the rapist is a friend of hers. (Are other episodes of that podcast any good by the way?)
Oliver Harris
Serious question: what would we lose if all of these people decided to quit leftism over rape jokes?
maybe if they stopped posting on the internet and actually did something useful something would change
Michael Diaz
But don't you understand? The Arab Spring happened because of posting, if people post hard enough we'll save the world
Connor Smith
Addition by subtraction. Can you imagine this unhinged call out addicts speaking to people trying to bring them to the left?
Dominic Ross
When did college age white woman become a marginalized class?
Ryan Martinez
The 1970s.
Jordan Richardson
When they became woke
Joseph Morgan
I’m going to die laughing when one of these call out freaks try organizing the working class and call ICE on a catholic undocumented Mexican immigrant because they’re not pro-choice.
Wyatt Reed
this is erasing girl cum boys
bc they're the most muh privileged of their subset (young white ladies) so they have the resources to monopolize the conversation/get more attention paid to them, same w/ rich white gay men like how somehow the push against rape being brushed aside as a crime came to mean college campuses are especially dangerous to women (when yes it's bad, but it's not very different than being a young woman out of college, how many women were groped or otherwise sexually harassed for the first time in a workplace environment when they worked retail or in the service business as teens?)
Kevin Nelson
This. Why couldn’t this by like the last time the call out gestapo came after the cum boys and left twitter girls got their Tits Out for Mullen.
Jayden Martinez
To be fair if someone does something actually bad like Sam Kriss it needs to be dealt with and not swept under the rug, but the way they reacted to that Cosby joke tweet is so fucking ridiculous it blows my mind.
Ethan Rogers
That's nothing for them, and well worth the gains in PR. If there's nothing else to learn from the Chapo boys, it's how to deal with PR issues properly. Don't accept guilt, just look generous/helpful and move the fuck on. Apologies never help, ever.
Charles Baker
Damn, you mean we too could have our own Morsi/Sisi, or else we could have a desecrated wasteland? Sign me the fuck up.
William Price
If we post hard enough, the US will break out into a Syria style Civil War, make it happen.
Caleb Thompson
So this drama has gone on so long that the earlier posts are now gone and I'm left trying to piece together what happened.
Who raped who now?
Andrew Reed
Sam Kriss is a creepy fuck like everyone from Vice that isn't Action Bronson and Nick Mullen rapes everyone's minds from verbal shitposting.
there was the cosby joke last week, then sam kriss was outted as having groped and harassed a woman he was on a date with, the newer twitter thing you can find a summery of on the cum town reddit- basically a random leftist girl found nick's old rape joke tweets (ie parodies of rape jokes) and went on a multi-day meltdown that's still ongoing saying chapo and anyone they're friends with have to denounce nick/cum town or they're ???? causing rapists to join to Democratic Cops of America and abuse women??? chapo of course is ignoring her and donated money to a charity for the cosby joke/general goodwill
besides being friends with some twitter people and Amber wtf does anyone follow/pay attention to annakhachiyan…truly the dumbest woman leftist (is she even?) account out there who's passion in life is hating beyonce and telling women they're just whiners when they get sexually harassed/generally having contempt for women who aren't her or camille paglia
Kevin Rodriguez
*whose now I'm the dumbest
look out for the fefo war that's brewing
Luis Torres
So the girl in the screencaps wasn't harassed by any personality or anything like that? She just didn't like some jokes?
Leo Robinson
not by any of the cum town hosts or anyone connected, of course once her shit got shared around a bunch of people started being awful to her in the dms/replies by random fans
Dylan Watson
I legit laughed
Logan Watson
also the girl is mad that they donated to charity instead of spending an hour denouncing nick mullen and dementedly thinks the donation was bc of her tweets and not for the horribly timed cosby joke/the whole news/social media being full of stories of abuse w/ weinstein and other people in the left and the media being outted and has now…just said amber is the same as tomi lahren lol
Jace Martin
I don't get why this thread isn't anchored and chapo shit restricted to the containment thread
Cooper Myers
jezabel is the trashiest of trashy websites.
Colton Jones
wrong thread?
Adrian Gutierrez
This thread predates the leftytrash thread and is for all leftist media/podcasts, not just chapo
Go bitch about it in the dedicated bitching thread but it's already contained
Logan Sullivan
Oh, my mistake. Ive seen this thread since it's inception but never once read it because I thought it was about chapo only. Wish I knew
Joseph King
it's gotten better with the last two switches in editors and most of the worst writers like jia "sam biddle would never sexually harass women bc he's my pal" tolento quitting and with that tracy disaster woman that's head of broadly now/lindy leaving a few years before…unfortunately they've all failed upwards
Matthew Jones
Chapo is just the most popular so it naturally gets the most discussion, and recent drama has shit it up lately, but every once in a while there's a good interview on a different pod or some discussion triggered from a good episode worth covering. Here's the most recent chart I have of all the current "leftist" media that we discussed ITT at one point or another, though it's possible it's been updated since and I missed it.
Tyler Peterson
IIRC about a week ago some other, different call-out artist got mad at Felix because he apologized and donated but didn't *specifically* apologize to *her* and reimburse her for the time she spent dealing with harassment that CTH obviously caused
call-out culture is 90% grifting
Sebastian Ross
I can’t believe these ableist fucks are always harassing our good autistic cum boy Mullen.
We should start flipping the tables on these call out freaks.
Wyatt Reyes
we'll know cth are real ones if the rumored cum town in washington dc crossover ep still happens
Oliver Ramirez
What'd they say in the intro?
Nicholas Foster
Basically "it's been a tough week for women; there's a good charity to support we're giving money to and we suggest you do the same". They didn't really apologize or take responsibility for anything (as they shouldn't) so the maddest people are still mad but otherwise pretty standard shit.
Jayden Gomez
You want the left to become right wing trump tards so bad
Oliver Fisher
What? No I want the left to stop feeding into an endless cycle of apologies and struggle sessions
Colton Wood
Self reflection is healthy. Only reactionaries assume everything they do is right
Jacob Lopez
Most of these accusations are being made on the basis of wildly misinterpreted 3 year old posts or second-hand, anonymous accusations that aren't verifiable. Recognizing this as toxic doesn't make you a fascist
Wyatt Allen
apologizing right after on twitter for the cosby joke like will did was good, having an episode long struggle session especially with just amber and the six guys would probably be at best useless, you couldn't make any jokes on that episode and a podcast really isn't the best way to teach their like 60-70% male audience about what women have to deal with/that sexual harassment and assault are bad and all of this put an enormous unfair weight and pressure on amber and any other women they would have on to guest on the subject also anyone enraged at the cum town connection isn't going to be satisfied with anything they do
David Parker
-not the best way because there are a million other resources out there and almost none of the people who are a problem and are the ones doing the harassing and abuse feel bad or admit to themselves that that's what they're doing, same with most of the people who enable them
Aaron Nguyen
Wrong, you fucking hack redditor.
Kevin Rodriguez
The "I could be wrong" can also sometimes be a way for reactionaries to indoctrinate the ill-informed. It's good, but too much can be dangerous as well.
Dominic Smith
I can understand why they did it, 24/7 media cycle demands a near-instantaneous response to avoid accusations of stonewalling or ignoring concerns I don't think it was the best response, and if they continue to fold over on the flimsiest of accusations I won't be giving them any more chances
Ayden Davis
hell yeah
Nathan Gray
Has a liberal /ever/ been funny?
Jace Long
They don't have a single thing to apologize for, and even if they did I bet you couldn't name a single time when a public figure made an apology and it was a net positive for anyone involved. What the fuck does any of that have to do with being "right wing"?
Landon Morgan
Do retards become tankies or does being a Tankie make you turn retarded?
Matthew Howard
...
Gabriel Hernandez
uh oh guys I'm really worried
Noah Murphy
These people couldn't kneecap a fucking bug
Connor Smith
aut-right advocating violence against chapo idpol left doing same for cum town fishhook theory is real
Aaron Barnes
lol please god let one of these histrionic dimwits actually attack nick or some other cumtown adjacent figure. I can't fucking wait for the reverse struggle session
Elijah Perry
...
Carson Scott
I fucked my post up oh well
Camden Ortiz
Can someone beat some sense into this woman
Mason Barnes
That joke works because that bit was explicitly about defending terrible things, such as terrorism, rape, killing and eating dolphins, imagining the detah of your own parents as a teenager so that hs girls will want to pity-fuck you so that you can dismiss them and jack off that intense scenario instead.
There was no need for that convoluted explanation.
Christian Cox
She is advocating violence against an autistic person. This violent ableism. Where is the outrage?
Ayden Martinez
WHERE IS THE OUTRAGE!!!
Sebastian Cox
Someone should rape her again lol
Jayden Sanchez
what's the over/under on them doubling down on their bullshit and empathizing with the girl who stabbed Felix with a mechanical pen because she was pushed over the edge by rape jokes
Aaron Rodriguez
Probably close to 100%, but they won't be able to troll for attention from more mainstream sources that they're used to complaining about even though their tantrum would be just as strong.
Bentley Carter
My guess was more a prima facie period of silence/calls for unity before moving on to more "nuanced" takes about the brocialist hordes
Jackson Wilson
It would take less than 10 minutes for the first people to (rightfully) blame callout culture so the silence would last only that long. After that it would be an unending torrent of whinging like always, but more hilarious than usual.
Mason Clark
Hoochie is a year zero champion shitposter here
Tyler Anderson
BEHEAD THOSE WHO INSULT HOOCHIE
Gabriel Morgan
I see this so much on the Left. Why is it so common to not substantiate your claims and instead shame anyone who doesn't agree with you instead?
Bentley Evans
Baby Felix looked lookin like a damn snack
Cooper Green
transition lenses
Christian Rogers
You can smell the testosterone from here
Benjamin Adams
he looks like brandon wardell
Leo Adams
god i hate brandon wardell
i made fun of his ironic puka shell necklace on instagram and he blocked me
Aaron Torres
is there a cum town bootleg? mediafire sucks my cock
Angel Williams
if you search the reddit there's one or two archives
Luis Price
you know…it really is true that 80% of people who hate chapo on twitter and have more than 500-1,000 followers are also the hosts of much less successful podcasts, most of which were started in the last year, the one exception being that I think the slate cultural podcast might have more listeners bc the npr normie market is huge, but they def make less money from it
Aiden Morales
A few dumbasses don't change the fact that most Democratic Cops of America members either like Chapo or don't care.
Jason Johnson
I think Chapo is like horror movies, a lot of people are made too upset by suspense or violence and can't handle watching them, which is fine, but then some people will take their own distaste and project on people who are fans and say that they're sick or actually violent or all sociopathic white men, when the demographics of horror fans is not at all that narrow. Most of these people don't want to get it and refuse to understand what other people can see in it without making out fans to be monsters and you can't change that. Cum Town is Cannibal Holocaust in this analogy.
Oliver Anderson
Did Chapo hire a sweatshop to come here and put up posts sucking their sick?
Charles Perry
*dick
Dominic Hughes
Yes, 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧Chapo🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧bux for everyone who mocks Felix for his fashion as a kid
Levi Howard
yfw Nick Mullen never went to college and has more working class cred than anyone in Chapo, or the person who sent that tweet.
Jonathan Sanders
oh wow
Angel Howard
*Nick
And yes, Felix pays me in Gamer points for every post. Once I shill 10,000 times for Chapo he said he'll confess on air how many people his apartment infected with scabies
Xavier Bennett
Sam Kriss' career is over because he was sexually forward once with a girl who was already cheating on her boyfriend with him. I can't get over this shit.
Carson Martinez
for the record, according to the story there was no bf, it was made up on the spot to try to get kriss to back off
Kayden Torres
Of course not, but a semi-homeless vagrant makes you probably not bourgeois
lol weird Mike's already had to remove one name from his list.
Ian Johnson
Doug Henwood posted on Facebook that someone told him he was on that list. Clearly lots of women went there to give him their support and say he's a decent guy, but that doesn't matter, because all it takes is one woman resenting you for whatever reason.
Also, from that screencap you can already tell what sort of bullshit accusations you're dealing with here. "Uses networkings as dates" good fucking lord.
Adam Ramirez
Why else would you "network" with a woman? It's not like they would ever throw a bone your way.
Adrian Clark
Can't wait for all the woke twitter dipshits to start siding with Thernovich unquestioningly
Charles Powell
big if true
Matthew Wilson
what's his fucking problem
Easton Roberts
Because it's easy.
Brody Diaz
So has anyone from Chapo actually directly commented on this Sam Kriss shit yet? I'm interested to know Amber's take on all this, since she was the closest to Kriss, but since she doesn't have a twitter, and since it seems unlikely they'd address it directly on the show, I'm not sure if we'll ever know.
I hope all the leftists who'd mock us for disliking identity politics and political correctness are enjoying these past few days.
Daniel Cox
this. he brings nothing to the show. maybe he's the plug that hooked up Biederman with the Cafe.com gig and now he's owed a cut of that those patreon shekels.
Christopher Rogers
He's just their friend. He was a pretty good guest, so they brought him on permanently.
Easton Powell
If I became a parliamentarian in my country I could only hope that no one would find my reddit posts denying that the Holodomor was a genocide and defending Stalin in general.
It's just some harmless shitposting. Why do people care about this?
Owen Turner
IIRC Virgil sometimes fills the role of house policy wonk, I vaguely remember him taking the lead in one of the Tim Faust healthcare episodes And if I was a true cynic I'd also say that he's their token PoC, but if having Virgil aboard gives Chapo +10 resistance to idpol call-outs then so be it
Liam Evans
Virgil is a PoC? he look like a white fam
Daniel Davis
isn't he asian?
Asher Foster
I think he's some variety of Asian, maybe a hapa.
More interesting question: what race is Amber?
Jack Hill
Finnish
Christian Hughes
He's like half Asian from the photos I've seen
Hibernian
Gavin Sullivan
Amphibian
Austin Wright
Appalachian
Landon Long
how old is amber btw, like 30?
Adam Ortiz
went to uni with faust and can confirm he is a massive narcissist douche.
Christopher Smith
wtf we want these bugmen front & center, we love them &would never harm them t.Holla Forums
Zachary Wright
Where Hillary Clinton voters and Holla Forums overlap
Ethan Robinson
Maybe all this feminist hysteria over sexual assault aligations isn’t so bad after all. Can’t wait to see the rest of the Chapo boys get rekt. Felix has gotta be next, he just reeks of sexual predator, the two other dumpy one have probably never been laid so they’re safe sadly.
Jose Cooper
To be cute. I want to suc his doink.
Logan Thompson
Those aren't distinct categories.
William Murphy
You care about podcasts way too much
Jace Price
This is just going to ravage the alt right a lot harder than its going to ravage anyone near the podcast you've been saying is going to die for the last year now.
Angel Williams
Better talk to your mother about the last time she had Felix over, you'll get a great story for twitter
Anthony Walker
I like how she tried to make it seem like they were just having a friendly get together (which he tried to turn into a hook up) even though they had been hooking up for weeks leading up to the alleged date. Really love that honesty in a supposed victim.
Still Kriss totally fucking deserves it for what he did to Mark Fisher.
Jackson Brown
i just googled sam kriss mark fisher out of curiosity and well thenorthstar.info/?p=11364 twitter might not destroy the left but it sure did destroy your career, sam.
Levi Johnson
Jesus fucking Christ, he should have been excommunicated for his writing alone. How does someone try to sound smart for so long without saying anything?
Hudson Young
t. triggered Chapo fail sons. Come Felix! I know you’ve gotten a girl drunk just to fuck her, bring her out! Bring her out!
William Cook
felix doesn't even drink
Robert Turner
Why did you say bring her out twice
Christopher Parker
t. triggered Chapo fail sons
Charles Rogers
lmao
Aiden Carter
we get it, you're horny for felix safer bet is on one of the other 3 being weird in the dms
Elijah Hall
You're the one asking about his sex life.
Jackson Jackson
@Littlemissagitated please go back
Jacob Rogers
DRAG HA! QUEEN!
Thomas Nelson
be nice
Jackson Campbell
Come on Felix, bring out them raped LAY-DEES We all know your over compensating Pepe le pew weasely ass did it!
Gavin Lopez
...
Alexander Lewis
how do we make them feel bad for posting such a shit episode
I mean I can, but I can't believe the joke about Scarlett Johansson that was told in character is the one to piss people off. I stg if you transcribed every podcast on like earwolf there would be just as many "off color" jokes, but you can say them if you're in UCB?
Robert King
two errors: not reporting that the cum town twitter is not run by anyone on the show, not adding context that at least half of cum town's fans don't come from chapo/ don't care about socialism
also missing context from the cosby thing is that it was posted literally the morning after the shitty media men list had been going around
guess which vice sweetie is quoted
Michael Wood
how are they interviewing someone for this piece who has been a. rebuffed after spending months desperately trying to suck up to everyone on chapo/cum town b. publicly tried to lead a targeted harassment campaign against cum town lol c. has been made fun of on the show after that/obviously has a grudge d. is just some nepotism media case, not someone with any position in the Democratic Cops of America/anything outside of twitter
he did say that he worked in an office worker type thing for them briefly
Tyler Brooks
when was that and was he being serious?
Asher Long
yeah, he said he had to sign an nda he talked about it on cum town then a week or so later on chapo appearance during the summer
Hudson Campbell
One of the early felix episodes
Hudson Barnes
ABSOLUTE MAD BOYS
James Lopez
...
Ayden Garcia
I hope Felix is ready to undergo anti-oppression training™.
Eli Ortiz
Lmaoo
Xavier Nguyen
chapo reddit is blowing up again thanks to the vox article
Austin Perez
Ive lost faith in women. The more I think about it the more it's undeniable that they are naturally inclined to idpol. How can we build a movement without women or have them in a clearly subordinate role? In my experience white men are naturally without idpol so i think they would be the most natural leaders for this movement.
David Cruz
Nobody cares you mopey bitch
Eli Roberts
Hey, /pol
Christian Johnson
male feminists are a million times worse
Levi Hughes
Good thing I'm not an idpol feminist. Im full of class consciousness.
If this is enough to trigger you it looks like you still have idpol to purge from your body. Stop putting women on a pedestal or go back to reddit
Andrew Gomez
imagine getting raped by a woman so hard you become this user
Nicholas Jackson
What does rape have to do with it? I just want a future for my comrades and I'm not scared of accepting hard truths. I like chapo because they they make fun of idpol all the time and I don't have to feel bad for being white. It seems like you are defensive about something. I asked a simple question about a leftist movement free from idpol feminism. I guess i'm a brocialist to you right? NOT MY COMRADE!
Luis Carter
You have leftover anal fissures
Daniel Moore
...
Bentley Perry
It looks like his opinion is more vindicated with time, and the women respecters like mention are largely just doing it to get into their pants if it doesn't work they'll probably just start raping people and be like "Nobody will ever believe you, I'm a woman respecter!"
Tyler Taylor
Adam is the worst. At least stav has a laugh
Jonathan Morgan
Of course. The male feminist doesn't know female biology. You're such a cliché
Xavier Peterson
The implication here is you were pegged against your will user
Zachary Phillips
Women respecters
Kayden Hernandez
Please stop LARPing as a women for male attention faggot
Jordan Kelly
Never
Christian Ortiz
You have to respect women. Don't be a women disrespecter.
Oliver Lopez
I want women to know my desire to respect them with my penis, something /pol could never understand.
tbh they're at their best when ripping on dumbass e-celebs and there hasn't been that much drama on the TL as of late
Also: - Felix is slowly turning into a flanderized version of himself, he should get out of gamer mode and talk about the house of saud or MMA labour issues more often - Five is too many hosts, they should punt either will or virgil>>2183852
please stop shitting the bed 8ch
Dominic Phillips
Go back to bed, Holla Forums
Austin Torres
will is the best chapo though, and by a long distance.
Aaron Lee
The woman respector has logged on
Michael Clark
will is the vanilla ice cream and regular potato chips of chapo
Joseph Wright
the MRAs have never logged off
David Taylor
Will is the most bland and uninteresting by far, except perhaps Virgil, if he can even be called a Chapo, here is the official Holla Forums approved ranking
1. Matt Christmann
Aaron Hughes
this.
Isaac Peterson
it goes
Matt [power gap] Amber and Felix [gap] The Theme Song [power gap] Will [unfathomable chasm] Virgil
Ayden Howard
will is the essential straightman
Kayden Ross
pls post Cumtown and Episode One premium feeds, a young comrade only has so much money for Patreon
Joshua Baker
I kno, he is alright, he fills an important structural function but he in himself is not too interesting. HE is basically filling the role of an editor (his old job incidentally). It's a thankless work.
Felix fills the role of being funny, knowing stuff about Saudi Arabia and injecting ironic distance
Matt has read a bit of Marx, is consciously a left wing radical and is a fat, angry failson from the midwest, which makes him extremely lovable.
Amber is just as well read as Matt, comes from a similar lumpen proletariat background, but is a reasonably successful journalist immigrant to New york, she has a sardonic coolness similar to that of Felix but is still reasonably serious. Amber is basically the synthesis of Matt and Felix and looks pretty weird. Its a shame how little time she gets, she is relatively redundant as Felix and Matt cover what she does pretty well. On Frost/Christman she was extremely good in that relaxed atmosphere.
Virgil is on twitter a lot and does a good impression of a pundit.
I liked the podcast more when I had just started listening to it and it was just this small little thing. It's not good for a podcast like this one to become an institution where they have to donate money so the vampire castle shuts the fuck up about their Bill Cosby joke (they literally joked about freeing a pedophile for like 1.5 years without anyone batting an eye).
It's also annoying when my cosmopolitan lefty friends all listen to the pod and our banter basically becomes us LARPing as Chapos, (I'm like a mix between Virgil and Matt but more boring).
Brandon Lee
The show would be unbearable if it was just felix and matt talking to each other with amber trying to get a word in, plus I'm pretty sure will is the one who finds most of the reading series/show material.
cum towns get posted on the sub usually within an hour of the premium going up I listened to the wine moms e1 and it's…ok, not very different from every other improv podcast except it's 15% more very online.
Blake Bailey
the Two Weeks Paid Leave episode is art
hmu if you guys ever want to play with a lvl 60 Felix/lvl 49 Amber
love to make a lot of good points then say amber and other women are fake leftists because of chapo/cum town
Nolan Peterson
Saw who wrote it and not even going to bother reading. Her show is unlistenably boring.
Jack Cruz
W E W L A D More accurate power ranking: Matt > Amber > Felix > Will > good guest > poor guest > Virgil
Aiden Campbell
Also, Amber is the single best guest to ever be on Cum Town, and the only person I've ever seen effectively clown on Mullen.
Anthony Young
Wow she gave up so much just to help the poor brown folk by twitter tone policing a comedy podcast called Cum Town. We could all really learn a thing or two from woke white woman 5729282927.
Also is she low key implying broke folk who are leftists do so out of selfishness?
Matthew Collins
I think the generous way to take it is that she benefits from capitalism but still wants to dismantle it. #humblebrag
Alexander Anderson
in nagle related news…why are so many uk feminists/feminist academics terfs
Daniel Thomas
probably because trannies are mentally ill and mostly men wanting yet another way to impose themselves in female spaces
Brody Sullivan
so this… is the power… of class traitors. leftism is all theater for them.
will the chapo thread every recover from cosbygate?
Dylan Howard
Anyone else can kind of see the pathology here?
Rich, female, attractive, white. Statistically, she's part of the most pampered and spoiled segment of society. She's drawn to radical politics because radicals are the one group that doesn't immediately bows down to someone like her - and she really wants the few things she can't have - so she fools herself into thinking she's a socialist, and try to make "socialism" about her and her bullshit dramas and bourgeois feminist ideas.
She's Victoria Woodhull. Just shoot her.
Isaac Scott
You're only a class traitor if you actually work to undermine your own class She is actively working to undermine her supposed allies. The CIA should be sending her cheques every two weeks
Just ignore her, they get their power from people paying attention to her and playing along with her theatre
yes
hit me up
Nicholas Price
Personally I find Matt pretty annoying most of the time - I don't know why. I think Will generally says everything that needs to be said and at times is hilarious although in terms of laughs Felix gets the most. Felix>Will>Brendan>Matt>Amber>Virgil. Honestly I don't see the point in Virgil's continued existence.
Angel Nguyen
here's the money shot for those who don't have time to waste on the bus: cool, extremely normal behaviour
Angel Long
Is Angela Nagle a TERF?
Julian Jones
it's very productive to conflate sarcasm and parodies of awful people with actually doing harmful abusive things, it's great to pull attention away from actual problems where women are being actually hurt it's not like there are dozens and dozens of examples from every corner of the left of men (and women) saying all the right things and loudly ""being feminist allies''" while secretly engaging in shitty and predatory behavior
Jordan Williams
No…t really? At least publicly, but she flirts with it with things like putting transphobic in scare quotes in her book, praising greer on twitter the other day, side stepping that the reason greer and other people were no platformed was because of their transphobia. Unsure if all this is out of being not very bright or also out of maliciousness.
And not terf related, but the line that made me fully done with her when reading the book was when she said: “Trigger warnings had to be issued in order to avoid the unexpectedly high number of young women who have never gone to war claiming to have post-traumatic stress disorder”
Wyatt Barnes
Sigh… I really wish people like Nagle would look up the science behind trans people instead of just blindly parroting gender critical talking points.
Yeah trigger warnings deserve criticism but this was certainly not the angle to take here.
I actually liked her book on the whole though. Was it just her ignorance that got to you?
Blake Price
Where do I start with cumtown? 🤔
Carson Walker
Holy shit, I love her even more now that I know how sensible she is.
Charles Fisher
Idpol alert
Robert Ortiz
Really any episode that has all three…but I'd start with episode 2 then loop back to one and three later(ones w/o adam). The only really bad episode is the rape one where nick pedantically goes on for an hour with no jokes, the two kurt metzgner ones are not great, the david cross one is a mess but a classic, and the jim norton is also not great but adam shares a very special journey on the second half after the interview.
Logan Perry
Why are we accepting of trans peo? I mean they can do what they want but why do we have to go along with it? It's like their idpol is so strong that they've lost track of who they are. They have a mental disorder and should be cared for not taken advantage of by a doctor. There's a reason tattoo artist don't tattoo drunk people
Angel Young
wakagif
Angel Ross
the rape ep is 15 Another Girl Episode btw, not to be confused with Rape Science
Gender does doesn't exist so why would someone change their gender to the "correct" one. This alone makes the whole transgender idea a fallacy
Anthony Rivera
Because there's literally no reason to give this much of a fuck if you're not a mental health professional.
Mental health professionals, deal and treat people with problems. You are not a professional. You are an average corn cobbing schlub that thinks he has the authority to barge in on anyone's life at any given time without warning or permission.
Aiden Sanchez
Because they have gender dysphoria? What's really hard to understand
Jacob Cox
That's just a mental illness, it doesn't prove you're a man trapped in a woman's body, only that you have a mental illness.
Jack Hill
And what are you going to do about it? Piss your pants and scream about how you "don't accept them", or whatever. What good is that going to do. Face it you're not a mental health professional and you shouldn't get involved with people's mental health issues unless you try to get involved with the field.
You can't just go up to anyone who's mentally ill and say "YOU'RE FUCKING CRAZY! SOCIETY CAN'T ACCEPT YOU" that's just retarded
Wyatt Gonzalez
of all the arguments you could have made this is the dumbest one. You're using libertarian logic to defend yourself. Leftist don't give a fuck about any of that because we understand that atomization and "everyman is an island" are propaganda to keep people docile. Fuck all this liberal personal rights shit. second, I don't want to change them really I care about society because I'm a collectivist and people going along with idpol pseudoscience because of liberal sjw guilt is cancer
Andrew Williams
The one where I said you shouldn't treat yourself as an expert on mental health issues if you're not even a fucking mental health professional; that's the dumb idea? lol ok
I'm really not at all.
When it comes to people who have mental health issues you should treat them with appropriate respect for their needs, otherwise you claim to know more than mental health professionals now about their own jobs. That is clearly stupid. You are clearly stupid.
You are using more "libertarian logic", whatever that means, than I am, clearly. You think random people should just get involved in people's lives for reasons of their own medical histories.
Luke Harris
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Cameron Reyes
Accepting that someone has a disorder doesn't give them a political right to a space designed for another group. Women should have the right to their spaces, which includes the right to remove transgenders on a case by case basis.
Ian Fisher
Because the dypshoria that trans people experience has to do with the physical integrity of their bodies, not the set of social roles that we call 'gender'. Google 'David Reimer' for an example of this in action
Juan Ward
It clearly does. If someone walks around you with a health condition, you give them room and respect, the only time you don't is when it makes you uncomfortable. In other words you are the one suffering from identity related politics in this argument, not me. You would probably treat anyone else with respect who has some health problem that needs it, unless you're just a sociopath.
Luke Howard
Why?
Isaac Cook
That's cool, kid.
Self-determination. In Canada there was a case of a tranwoman suing a rape clinic for refusing them employment. The court ruled that it was in the best interest of the clinic to be able to discriminate based on sex, and that this power was included in the right to self-determination.
Dylan Perez
can we talk about what's the deal with felix's teeth never being visible instead or something
Lincoln Morales
Holy shit twitter is unusable. How do I stop getting shitty accounts I don’t follow like Brandy Jenson from showing up on my timeline just because two or three people I follow liked their tweet?
Jayden Campbell
You didn't make an argument at all, and that's not even what I was implying
Lincoln Brown
Didn't you just shit on the idea of self determination
Gavin Turner
surprise
Andrew Parker
No, that's what you're trying to do, by denying the self-determination of women. All this so that you can pee and change next to them.
Carter Adams
Well, if you can't explain your argument, then how can anyone respond to it?
Angel Fisher
follow a groyper account to clean up your timeline
Jackson Peterson
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Connor Gomez
That's fucking awful
Ayden Carter
Please, tell me more.
Evan Hernandez
Weren't you just shitting on the idea of self determination as lolbert crap. lmao
Noah Jenkins
Where?
Connor Bell
all these triggered traps and trannies ITT
Austin White
Trannies are disgusting and should be put down. If you allow trannies in society, they will try to turn everyone into one of them. Imagine being a young man with a future then getting your dick chopped off because some fat feminist dickcunt decided that masculinity is oppressive or some shit. Why not let people drive their cars off bridges next? After all, its their personal freedom! No negative social consequences at all. Socialism is about letting people do whatever they want without any regard for the health of the social body, amirite?
Elijah Smith
Imagine wanting to live in a capitalist society at all, that's worse than ever "being a tranny"
Bentley Ortiz
You're right, socialism is
definitely about playing doctor and putting other people's health in your own hands, despite medicine telling you no
Elijah Morgan
Why do I get the feeling whenever I hear this the person saying it has a latent desire to get fucked wearing girls' clothes?
Kevin Scott
Reminder that the #1 reason socialists are socialists is because capitalism is socially irresponsible. Capitalism is socially irresponsible because it destroys the environment, alienates the worker, produces atomized individuals and all that bad stuff. Caring about how your actions affect others is a precondition for socialist thought; if you do not hold this principle you are just demanding society give you free shit. Trannies are objectively bad for the social body, so it is really strange seeing so-called socialists arguing for not just more transgender rights, but more transgenders in general. Of course, you people are not socialists, you are just a bunch of degenerates who want society to love you for being shit, defective human beings.
Trannie cucks argue that they are not diseased, otherwise they wouldnt be making such a big show of themselves. The diseased need to be kept out of sight since celebrating sickness is destructive towards society. These faggots should NOT be allowed to try to pass their disability as something to be flaunted around. Period.
Jayden Perez
Jim Norton is such a kook. I could hardly listen to that episode without pausing.
Hudson Phillips
there's rumors that brendan might be out or on a break from chapo interesting
David Martin
((rumors)) source fgt
Jordan Jenkins
someone on the discord mentioned it and made it seem like they heard something, but the only evidence given is that he removed chapo from his twitter bio and hasn't tweeted about it/been on the show recently (not sure about the last one)
James Watson
they also mentioned hiring a second producer so brendan wouldn't have to do everything, but that doesn't mean anything in one way or the other
Jacob Moore
name a better cum town bit than autism powers. protip: you can't.
Andrew Parker
it started on the reddit, it's just speculation
Landon Powell
I don't like that this thread is cycled because the OP doesn't fit with the purpose of the thread now
Luis Carter
well, chapo is still a dirtbag daily show and heidecker still sucks
Christian Jackson
Heidecker actually, does not suck
Luis Young
jack lemon trying to sell a tiny dick gay bill clinton adam impression
Parker Turner
Can someone post the new premium link?
Jason Price
it's not up yet? felix posted on instagram that they had just recorded yesterday afternoon so idk where the ep is
Zachary Ward
New premium ep is up
Christian Rodriguez
new episode is hot basically a big duck hunt on Zionists and right wing jews
Cameron Morgan
strong contender eh, It's not my favorite
Austin Gutierrez
Felix fucking kills it in the new Premium ep.
Nicholas Jones
This episode might turn some autrightists into nazbols.
Elijah Scott
Just fuck my shit up famalam
Kevin Richardson
use an rss reader blackwolf-elb-dev.us-west-2.elasticbeanstalk.com/rss/ You're welcome
Jaxson Fisher
Thanks famalam
David Walker
SOMEONE LINK ME 151/153 OR I'LL TEAR MY FACE OFF
I WORK 12/13 HOURS A DAY CHAPO IS MY ONLY REPRIEVE IN THIS COLD AND DYING WORLD
here's 153, in future use the fucking link provided here
Isaac Gomez
brendan is on this episode
hopefully they actually fired Virgil like they were threatening to last ep
Dominic Hill
they don't, but politics is war. you fight to win and if you need to fight dirty so be it. i don't like it as a rule, but that's the way it is.
Charles Russell
in a sane world posting =/= warfare but here we are
Luis Martinez
Yes, precisely. World is a fuck.
Michael Sanchez
jews btfo chapo really is copying daily shoah
Thomas James
Comedy def jam Star Trek
Matthew Evans
DAILY REMINDER Be wary of #hashtagWoke accusations about ""problematic"" jokes by any leftist podcast. The right joins in and loves to prod about that shit. The vampire castle is filled with more than just idpol libs.
Austin Rogers
the hardest i think i've laughed is at nick calling mixed race people animal crackers
Felix on a show that, it seems, is about "sex, the occult and radical philosophy". He breaths way too loud throughout the entire thing, and I hate seeing video footage of him because I'm reminded of how weirdly his mouth moves when he speaks.
@annakhachiyan Women always do this thing where they’re aggressively competitive in the guise of faux wonderment and exaltation which is bad-faith and evil
what does this mean, the "faux wonderment and exaltation" part??
Cooper Jackson
Mark Ames fucking rules, and they just can't get to him. He shows how important it is to do your own shit instead of working for other newspapers.
Stop trying to make people give a shit about the vampire castle
Jack Barnes
there are 0 leftist people on the list, that I know of anyway how is passing along info that's exposing rich fucks who have a stranglehold on the media and use that power to abuse women part of the vampi're castle
Carter Adams
ok zero leftists might have been an overstatement looking through the list, but no one I've ever thought of as relevant
Aaron Thomas
Stop being such a male feminist women respector.
Joshua Moore
buzzfeed sounds like a huge mismanaged mess- a bunch of guys in their 30s-40s in charge of dozens of 20 somethings/college interns, throwing fits and being creeps only surprise is that I guess no one trusted vice people with the list
Aiden Brooks
Some of these are fucking hilarious
David Ross
Yeah that's bound to create trouble. We should just segregate people through gender and make sure they're forced to date people of their own age just in case.
Aiden Nelson
I'm not saying that, I'm saying buzzfeed obviously either didn't care or purposefully don't allocate their vast resources to making sure their workers aren't terrorized by pathetic manbabies. Even buzzfeed workers deserve to not be harassed at their jobs.
She's still mad about the "until morale improves" tits thread.
Samuel Butler
You fellas know where I can score some of that top Chapo premmium pussy (for free)
Joshua Gutierrez
Gerby sounds exactly like Amber.
Josiah Bailey
reee
Colton Butler
How did Brandy Jensen develop a following? She's not funny or insightful or even that attractive.
Nicholas Davis
unsure how she got her foot in the door bc she was just a random person living in the midwest or something, but I think it's just that she makes topical political jokes/sex jokes that have normie crossover appeal same with all those #resistance people who gained thousands of followers overnight based on a few tweets that picked up steam and other twitter people during the election
this appeared now in the black wolf rss: "The Black Wolf feed will be moving to a new address on September 1st 2017. If you don't update your podcatchers by that date, you'll stop getting the Chapo premium feed."
Jose Russell
These people should be beaten
Lucas King
she's still talking about cum town as of today
It's just the usual people trying too hard to be funny and failing/being corny that you find in the head of like every college club, the same types of personalities that are drawn to low stakes leadership positions. It's not that serious, or at least not the best example.
Nathan Richardson
having pence as president would be even more embarrassing than trump, and probably objectively worse on every single level
Jackson Barnes
new chapo is up
Elijah Gonzalez
I get a fucking semi when I see wannabe irony twitter fashy bois thinking they're toppling a leftist insurgency by making 15 fake DSA/Chapo twitter accounts.
Cameron King
they talk about the ben garrison halloween cartoon on the new chapo lol
Cooper Edwards
What the FUCK did he mean by this
Jaxon Howard
Todd Hitler isn't irony fash, he's a legit leftist. He's kinda notorious for being a troll/absurd person online tbh. I get what you mean tho, these retard irony fash types are annoying as fuck
Kayden Ortiz
He's including ftm trannies. It's this weird language policing that only exists to pander to woke people. Plus it's about trans people, so it's the hill all libs are dying on these days.
Andrew Ward
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Connor Miller
that 3rd way article is my new favorite reading chapo ever did
Chase Butler
muh credentialism lmao
Chase Perry
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Adam Powell
dat reification
Kayden Wright
that happened last year
Austin Robinson
this or he's making a joke which would be funny
Angel Miller
Emmett Rensin outed as a sexual harasser. The dominos keep falling.
Jackson Kelly
literally who?
Christopher Wright
not even a harasser, a straight up rapist, allegedly are people saying things publicly? he deleted his twitter after the list leaked
Jaxson White
tweet 1-Emmett Rensin is not a glitch but a feature of any political movement where the power structure replicates what it purports to fight against word tweet 2-This keeps cropping up in meatspace but especially on twitter recently. Leftist men get outed and their inappropriate behavior is obvious yeah tweet 3-I am looking at every single leftist man who was groaning and rolling their eyes over the most recent twitter "fight" regarding Nick Mullen wait… tweet 4 and 5-The reality is it's not a "fight." There aren't two sides to sexism and abuse/harassment doesn't have an expiration date. Fuck any man for "being tired of this discussion." We keep bringing up people like Nick Mullen and Emmett Rensin bc you all KEEP DOING THIS
love random twitter communists who had information they kept to themselves (or likely just want to look like they're in the know), love when they make something serious like BEING a rapist be equal to telling rude jokes
Mason Morris
I love how Nick Mullen never actually raped anyone but he keeps getting dragged into this crap, unlike the socjus red liberals who hate cumtown. It's almost as if there's a fundemental difference between being offensive as a joke and being an actual PoS.
Anthony Ramirez
it's the kind of thing that only makes sense to either dishonest or humorless weirdos who get off on trying to boss strangers around, literally every comedian male or female who was working more than 5 years ago has some "rape joke" or racially related/sexist joke that wouldn't fly today, gotta disavow every comedian for their fantasy revolution!
Colton Foster
the funny thing is Bill Cosby probably never made a rape joke.
Hudson Gomez
The Daily Shoah is the real Nazbol podcast
Dylan Rodriguez
there should be a four-way crossover between CTH, Daily Shoah, Hellbent and Cum Town
Jose Hall
why did sister pod hellbent drop from 2,000+ listens an episode to suddenly 200 or below for the most recent eps?? they still get a thousand a month on patreon soundcloud.com/hellbentpodcast
Jayden Reyes
The guy with the Hannah Arendt avi on Twitter. Felix mentioned being IRL friends with him on one ep iirc.
Dominic Green
Trump is amazing
Brody Carter
Daily shoah is cucked as hell on anything financial, their concerns with any big corporation boils down to whether or not it's run by jews. They have no problem with parasitic silicon valley shitheads if they're WASPs
Brayden Wright
Isn't the guy who runs it one of the SV racist types?
Tyler Butler
Incredibly rage-inducing though
Camden Cruz
Imagine thinking that nigga was a "domino" in anyway shape or form.
Mason Harris
Lol just found out Rensin wrote a gushing profile of his old friend Weev in 2014.
I just got eye cancer trying to read about the Nick Mullen drama on reddit. People on twitter are treating him as an actual rapist, what did he actually do?
Nolan King
Very on point when Matt flipped out and they all imitated him.
Camden Lopez
Hard to know for sure but I have to imagine the demo of people who would want to listen to hellbent but think something like pod save america is too mainstream for them is exceedingly small
Chase Scott
It's fucking infuriating how out of touch these Beltway lanyard-dicks can be.
Adrian Gutierrez
Is there any evidence of this at all or is it just some dangerhair looking for attention? I fucking loved reading his articles.
Michael Adams
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Evan Reed
BELIEVE THE VICTIMS user
im actually a massive hypocrite and do in fact tend to believe allegations made against people who give me the shits for whatever reason because it's cathartic if nothing else
Isaiah Jackson
link to the liveshow?
Xavier Sanders
he's never done anything except tell jokes that piss people off, people with control issues are furious that they can't a. get him fired from anywhere or ruin his life for his "sins" b. can't make everyone who knows him denounce him so they keep having fits and try to conflate old tweets with people who actually suck to either attack the left or attack all "bros" on the left/all people on the left who aren't so self-serious
Grayson Hall
there's some vague tweets making it sound like people did know something was up, and that he was reported at vox for harassing women rensin (along with a few of the other men on the list) deleting his twitter and saying nothing and having none of his friends stick up for him make it very very likely this is based on something real you can still read and like his articles, who cares
Daniel Gonzalez
I wonder whose fault this is…
Zachary Cook
his power is growing
Jaxson Rodriguez
link to Street fight and Chapo episode please?
Gavin King
The bugs shall inherit the earth
Asher Richardson
why does he play with his cat's nipples
WHY
Dylan James
So is kratom legit good? Been thinking of trying it out and supporting those sweet street fight boys.
the way people on the sub constantly refer to everyone left leaning who isn't putting a rose emoji in their twitter bio as "libs (that we love to dunk on")" makes me want to die, so does the general myopia of thinking reddit/chapo's subreddit is the whole world and the whole left in the us…the idpop debates are cointelpro anyway
Liam Barnes
It's the same 3 people who won't fucking leave even though they throw a tantrum at least once a week and swear off the whole sub as problematic brocialists that they can't stay around anymore
Luis Mitchell
everyone's favorite former ucb comedian is uhh… jezebel.com/a-comedian-called-out-an-alleged-rapist-and-was-sued-fo-1819818078 also no mention in the article that he got at least one commercial (that aired during the super bowl) post-allegations, so statements that his life has been "ruined" are kind of overblown
Nicholas Phillips
What the fuck does this have to do with my post? Hell, what does it have to do with anything on this board?
Leo Evans
new ep
Anthony Jenkins
Ever since he dropped the hard r, things have never been quite the same.
Ian Cox
saying the promotion is no longer valid. anyone able to grab and uploaded it?
Wyatt Rivera
Maybe that sub isn't as bad as I thought.
Austin Miller
So, any thoughts?
Gonna admit I've been looking forward to cum town more than chapo for a while now
Benjamin Gutierrez
This one was pretty good imo, pretty light but comfy (which is exactly why, like you, i've been looking forward to cumtown more which is just a more relaxing and less stressful listen).
Speaking of cumtown i have no idea what to think of gerby but I hope they have more randos on, those eps are way fresher.
hey guys…i unsubbed from chapo and subbed to street fight. where do i upload the video of the live show (if there's still interest)?
Oliver Taylor
hot take:
all podcasts are bourgeois
Wyatt Nguyen
looking forward to the recording quality taking a dip when their new producer goes on strike for being misgendered or some other bullshit
Jacob Gomez
leftypol is reactionary
Nathaniel Brooks
your mom is reactionary
Jaxson Murphy
Make it an webm
Parker Wright
CHAPO HAS A CEILING I TOLD YOU THEY HAD A CEILING
Jonathan Gomez
Chapo has been garbage for months, they obviously hate doing it, too.
Brandon Gonzalez
i dont know who any of these people are
Aaron Carter
I think the last two episodes (154 and 155) were really good actually. Before that there had been a dip in quality though.
Luke Allen
I actually stopped listening after like 5 bad ones in a row, so I will give 154 and 155 a try. We will see..
Christopher Stewart
why does it have those dips in the line?
Jeremiah Ramirez
YOU CAN DO THAT????
Jace Ramirez
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Julian Clark
wtf
Landon James
They deleted their post since, hit refresh and it will be gone
Isaac Stewart
oh yup
Christian Rodriguez
felix seems like he wants to just be on e1 or something like cum town, the rest have probably done more work than in the last two years with the remember they're mostly kind of bums, matt was moving, amber has checked out and is busy doing whatever she's traveling for/having a terminal sounding cough for over a year, the world is depressing, I don't feel bad for any of them but they're probably burnt out
sometimes it doesn't work
Alexander Bennett
*all of them have done more work than they have in the last two years with the book and whatever sure to be awful leftist tv show I'm guessing that they're involved with
Caleb Cooper
amber caught fungal pneumonia, her aids she got while on a coke bender has been acting up
Michael Peterson
post ambers
Nolan Brown
She is simultaneously creepy and arousing.
Lucas Hughes
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Daniel Sanders
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Austin Walker
Amber has nice lips, I wish I could get my dick sucked by a woman with those lips.
Jaxon Wilson
google drive
Ethan Davis
Their patreon flatlines pretty abruptly, and right around the time of the Cosby tweet
They're obviously going to peak at some point (my guess would have been some time around the new year) but this is pretty obviously a bunch of idpolers getting buttmad about a tweet. The fact that they stayed where they were shows that they may have some more room now to fuck around. I think they're starting to realize that the call-out retards are paper tigers
Grayson Bell
Perhaps, but there's also been a string of sub par episodes. They really need to put more thought into what they are doing and get more guests on (there's dozens of good people who want to get on) instead of making the show about random tweeters no one gives a shit about. They're fortunate to be in the position they are in but by the looks of things they'll probably fuck up before too long.
Lincoln Brooks
I think a lot of people forget to renew their subscription at the beginning of the month
Justin Reed
Guess it's time to bring our boy Jared on #freejared
Jaxson Hernandez
...
Joshua Green
wtf
Xavier Ortiz
i know, who follows someone called marquis de sadr?
I mean, the core audience has abandoned them a while ago. I haven't met anyone who was there pre-Trump and pre-Amber/Virgil who still listens regularly. It hasn't changed drastically in style, but it's not the same thing.
Jace Anderson
They all do. Matt, Will and Felix are dudes that were into O&A, MDE, Nick Mullen, Howard Stern etc who now can't do anything that they themselves would find funny.
Mason Russell
Before Trump won, or before he was a candidate, because I was watching last summer when everyone thought Hillary was going to win.
Henry Collins
Boy that went downhill
Mason Diaz
jesus this guest on the new ep is hard to listen to
Jace Rogers
when you fellas masturbate to Amber fantasies are you imagining her pussy lips are as fat and full as the lips on her face?
Jack Morris
Amber is pure
Leo Campbell
Does anyone have a link to the latest Cumtown patreon ep? The old player.fm link is broken.
that hillary campaign staffer thread…is truly the darkest thing, I can't look at it all at once
Wyatt Walker
tbh she just seemed nervous at the beginning of the interview. it got better after she got her footing
Xavier Roberts
so how bout that new chapo?
Ian James
Interview was ok but hard to get through mostly due to the guest, reading series was alright and Matt should be allowed to pick out more articles. Whoever produced the show doesn't know shit about sound levels. Some of those clips were LOUD
Leo Cook
Oh and Feliz is slowly turning into a caricature of himself. Was he serious when he said he was preparing to record a podcast about the recent Saudi purges? I'd love to listen to that honestly
Brayden Perez
weird how they used to be down with each other; Virgil introducing Sam at that Twitter comedy night thing and all
Jose Hall
the comedy night thing was like 4 years ago and who knows if he had anything to do w/ who was performing, they give their opinions on him on the wardell episode and wardell was the only one who was a big fan iirc, who cares either way
Charles Moore
i don't like cumtown amber
Caleb Lopez
i'm in the WGAE most of our membership is film nick is MISINFORMED and amber is an agent
Bentley Garcia
Yeah but I will say Sam hydes shit and mde has changed a bit since 4years ago and even 2 years ago.
also wtf will is apparently adopted? He really was the Irish infiltrator all along
Caleb Sanchez
Does anyone else think these guys are bad and sound like shock jocks? Or does that just go over well these days
Hudson Ross
Sounding like shock jocks is kind of the point. At this point they've been going long enough that it's lost its edge but when chapo started it was absolutely a breath of fresh air in a sea of stuffy, overserious dullard leftists.
Dominic Hall
So without getting into a whole back and forth about whether chapo is good/bad now (I'll probably continue listening to it), does anyone have any recommendations for other leftist podcasts just to keep things fresh? I've gotten really into Citations Needed recently, but it's a pretty serious affair. Would love to get some recs on more light stuff too.
problem seems to be it shows just the latest one, at least that's what I see on my end. gotta get the older ones from the mediafire folder manually. haven't found one for the chapo premium eps though, if anyone has a link for that, that'd be great.
Thomas Hall
yeah he and derrick do foreign policy talks all the time
Joshua Perez
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Isaiah Cruz
really depends what you're after user. radio war nerd is good but not explicitly leftist in content. unauthorised disclosure can be interesting depending on who the guest is and is more focused on current events, but some people don't like the hosts (rania khalek is weirdly polarising). discourse collective is a bit lighter and a bit more amateurish and memey and women-respecter-y enough that some host will probably be accused of sex abuse next year dead pundits society is one of my favourites but it's usually very theoretical obviously if you're not already listening to or watching the wolff man's weekly economic update then you should be
Daniel Young
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Landon Long
now i feel silly, thanks for pointing me the right way.
BTW these are nothing like Chapo and are much drier.
Matthew Rodriguez
does anyone else think its kinda weird how amber vetoed talking about the weinstein shit on chapo but had no problem talking about it on cumtown.
Ethan Roberts
link?
Aaron Morris
she wanted to be problematic w/o restraint
Robert Thompson
because cum town is more feminist
Brody Fisher
soundcloud.com/user-546393555/the-real-pizzagate-11-6-2017 It's supposed to be a patreon episode but You can find it easy by googling the title. Highlight of the episode is when Stav said Adam is a training bra for lesbians who want to try penis.
Landon Cruz
she was talking about hollywood and shit that had nothing to do with people she's worked with and thought were her friends/allies, you don't see the difference and why she didn't want to do the latter?
Nicholas James
it wasn't just weinstein, it was the barrage of men being outted, some of them leftist men (kriss, not publicly at the time but in the list that had circulated-resin, some other less publicly known men involved in organizing) + the cosby tweet deal (and the actual issue of how sexual harassment was/is being handled in the la Democratic Cops of America)
Zachary Lopez
Com town isn't serious
Alexander Morales
idk much about him besides recognizing his name, but now there's some drama about joe prince texting women too often or something