I have a problem Holla Forums, I'm part of a far left org, technically it's multi-tendency but it's dominated by Maoists. Recently we did an action as part of a campaign which seemed to piss a lot of people in town off. It wasn't anything extreme, we just did a little bit of tagging in the run up to a march, now it seems like everybody is pissed. I'm not opposed to property damage as a form of protest, but if it turns public opinion against us then obviously it's a bad idea. The group also suffers from poor image and a complete inability to relate to anybody who isn't already radical, and the founding members refuse to change our tactics, literally insisting that anybody who reacts negatively to us is probably a petty bourg. Generally public opinion of us is pretty poor, even though the older members insist we have support in the poorest neighbourhoods (which has NOT translated into increased membership and support if it indeed exists).
Given our poor performance which we suspect is a result of rhetoric tailored to radicals and not the general public, myself and a few other members have thought about forming our own group that will wrap radical politics up in rhetoric that's less scary to normies, and focus on projects of mutual aid and community self sufficiency (Black Panther style) while organizing politically and disseminating leftist ideas. Is this a worthwhile effort or are we just a bunch of splitters?
Obviously lol. I've had a few ideas lately about a way to begin laying the economic foundations of socialism within a capitalist context.
Essentially a network of housing, retail, and industrial co-ops combined with labour unions. Union dues and co-op profits can be used to subsidize cheap goods from the co-ops to be sold at subsidized prices to co-op and union members, essentially creating a microcosm of a utility oriented economy. If such a thing could grow big enough it would essentially become a socialist state within a capitalist one, and eventually overthrow capitalism.
Xavier Anderson
Personally I recommend not splitting, if you do form a new group maintain dual membership and encourage others to do the same. Just for the sake of holy shit we have too much splitting.
Julian Carter
Split. The group you're describing seems to be the larping without any actual action, the same kind of folks that have an autistic meltdown when some antifa knocks over a trashcan or punches a nazi yet can't let go of symbols of regimes that normies believe killed gorgillions. It's obvious this group isn't going to do anything so you may as well start a new group and focus on community outreach in a way that doesn't trigger normies. At worst you'll have two irrelevant organizations that everyone hates instead of one slightly larger one.
Justin Foster
No, it's a worthwhile effort. Destruction of public property without backing of the public is never worth it. Reminds of the video that was on here some days ago of protesters blocking public transport as a form of protest. Retarded.
Charles Reed
It's not that they've been inactive. On the contrary actually things seemed to be looking up (slightly increased/more disciplined membership, better organizing, successful actions, etc) until the vandalism debacle that revealed our total inability to appeal to normies, and some members total inability to address that problem. Like I said, they literally dismiss any negative reactions by saying that those people were probably bourgies.
I'm just debating whether or not to split or just rally the faction that agrees with me and try to drown out the larping tankies.
Isaac Thompson
Force the maokids to split tbh fam.
Joseph Thompson
I'm not saying they're inactive, I'm saying they're ineffective. The reaction to vandalism has proved that much at least. And if you were able to drown out the tankies, who apparently have the support of leadership, they would just start their own group and you'd be in the same situation. Might as well drop the baggage and start a new group.
Isaiah Murphy
Dumb marxists cant even do smashy smashy stuff correcrly
