Zelda BotW

So, this is the best open world hands down, right? Regarding variety, interactivity, sense of scale, use of colors, verticality and so on.

Why doesn't it get more praise then and why do other developers STILL keep putting out generic, empty open worlds wuthout interacitvity (Red Dead 2 soon, Far Cry 5 soon)?

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Thats what zelda is
It has even less interactivity than Skyrim

Stalker, even at it's worst and vanilla is better, not as a meme or joke, it's actually good even vanilla. The only thing bad is the downtime between missions. I don't like walking but the time you're at a mission or a location, the real fun begins.

Are other games even trying to keep up with that variety and handcrafted locations?

BOTW is shit because you have some shitty tweenage Link and not superior Young Link

if we could just drop the pretense and post link porn, that would be fine

You literally can't even burn hay with your fire arts in Skyrim, let alone destroy trees or move rocks or something. You can't even actually climb.

The only "interactivity" Bethesda games have is that you can pick up items such as food or dishes which… is actually 100% pointless.

Like, literally 100% pointless. Leads you to the question why they won't just cut this and go with better loading times so we don't have to wait two minutes each time we enter a building.

Or you just be a degenerate retard elsewhere.

pr0nz is allowed here retard

We've had this exact same thread like 7 times now. We don't have the memory span of a goldfish. Fuck off

>>>/cuckchan/
ROLL

All of those are meaningless shit that doesn't affect anything.
The trees you cut respawn after a few moments. Its Goat Simulator tiers of meaningless interactivity that changes nothing.

Japanese Skyrim, even a 2012 game by a third party is this pathetic.


Rollan

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Learn how to READ, you cocksucking faggot.

This is far from the best open world game out there, the only thing it's got going for it is the waifus

There is no interactivity because everything is scripted. People walk on scripted paths. Enemies stay at their spawn points. You will never find a group of enemies fighting some NPC in a strange location because they didn't program it. It is not a living interactive world, it is a static planned out world. fucking gets it.
Its also fucking impossible to have variety in an open world with level scaling because level scaling prevents variety. It creates a homologous consistent experience.
Also learn to spell check you fucking retard.

No, user, they do not. And it's not meaningless, you get specific items this way or can trap enemies, use it for cooking, combat or puzzle solving.

Roll

Wrong since the patch months ago.

Everything else you said is subjective.

are you fucking stoned? aside from a few pretty sights its a fucking terrible overworld

I was honestly disappointed with it. Especially fighting Gannon.

Time to r-r-r-roll!!

But they did and you actually even get rewards when helping random NPCs? Hell, unlike other open world games there isn't even a mgical barrier between big towns (Gerudo village, for example) and the rest of the world, so you can lure enemies into it and every NPC has a unique line when confronted with one.

Why is everyone criticising BotW someone who obviously didn't play the game?

Bullshit all the characters are static and barley present.


Holy shit I cannot tell if you are that fucking dense or if you are a god damn marketer. Christ you sound like that one guy who apologized after marketing the SS ToRtanic on Holla Forums.

Stop making shit up to defend your favorite turd m8

yeah a literal golden turd for collecting 900 collectables. such a good reward.

Those are in predetermined locations you fucking dipshit.

Why do you even post this retarded picture when it gets BTFO by the pictures in the OP?

Are you schizoprhenic?

Don't reply, he's the same autist from the last 7 or so threads. He can't take "No" for an answer and will try to force you to say this game is perfect and without flaws. Johnny gives it a good review
WEBM it, also sage hide and report.

Any time in these big empty fields there's a point that actually looks interesting you can't even explore inside of it

I don't find NPCs like that very often but they're never in the same place twice in BOTW. Either enemies assaulting NPCs like that is exhaustive and you only encounter them in that spot once, I've yet to see the game "recycle" such encounters in that spot, or you're full of shit, mate.

Rolland

It's a fact the framerate is almost perfectably stable on Switch, except for the Kokiri Forest where you never go after you got your Master Sword, though. Sorry, jealous fuck.


Nothing respawns until red moon which always takes a week. Stop making shit up to shit on games you never played.


I just told you you can lure any enemy into a village and people react to them or even fight them. And there are many NPCs getting attacked by enemies on their own. You're literally just complaining enemies don't attack villages which is dumb since that's the point of those villages; provide safety.

You know it's RIDICULOUSLY unrealitic and fucking retarded how dragons wipe out entire villages in Skyrim every day? Why do people even build fucking villages in the first place instead of living in caves?

the only ones complaining are poorfags who cant play it on switch

You mean like Breath of the Wild?

Well, friend. First of all, it's a videogame. So I would say gameplay has to be the very first priority in a videogame better because it shows that you aren't a shallow person who would dictate the quality of the game by how it tries to look, but rather, how it plays and how it would immerse you while always giving you something new and wholeso– WOW!!! THE WII U IS IN HD NOW!!!! FUCK GAMEPLAY, LET'S LOOK AT THE GRASS IN ZELDA, HD WOW!!! QUALITY!!!! GAMEPLAY, LMAO FUCK THAT, ONLY STUPID ENTITLED LOSERS LIKE THAT!!!! LOOK AT THESE WATER COLOR TEXTURES AND PISS POOR RIGGED ROCKS!!! GOTY GOTY GOTY GOTY GOAT GOAT GOAT BEST GRAPHICSSSS NOTHING, NOTHING CAN COMPARE? HAHAHAHAH, THAT DOESN'T COMPARE!!! THAT'S A PC GAME EW YUCKY. WHEN WERE YOU WHEN ZELDA WON GAME OF ALL GAMES? WHAT DO YOU MEAN OTHER VIDEO GAMES EXIST!? THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE, WE ALL KNOW NINTENDO IS THE ONLY ONE THAT MAKES THE GAMES. PFFFFFT, WHAT? THAT'S A GAME? IT DOESN'T HAVE THE NINTENDO LOGO SO ZERO GAMES LOOOOOLLL!!!!!!!!!!! SUCK IT SONYGGERS, PC CUCKS AND XBABIES!!! NINTENDO WINS ALL YEAR EVERY YEAR? SPLATOON? NO, SQUIDS ARE STUUUUPID. ZELDA ONLY, I LOVE ZELDA, I LOVE GERUDO LINK, SO SEXY, I ONLY FAP TO NINTENDO. NOTHING EXISTS EXCEPT NINTENDO, LOVE NINTENDO, WORSHIP NINTENDO. KILL BABIES FOR NINTENDO, SLIT THEIR THROAT FOR DADDY SAKURAI, PLS GIVE ME MORE FIRE EMBLEM CHARACTERS, LET ME SUCK THE SALTY FRESH TURD'S OUT THE ONE WITH THE GRAY HAIR, PLS DADDY SAKURAI PLEASE I NEED TO DO THIS. LET ME HUFF YOUR FARTS I'M YOUR BIGGEST FAN I LOVE YOU DADDY FUCKING PLEASEEEE. I'LL BUY YOUR GAME AGAIN, 3 TIMES EACH WITH ALL THE DLC!!!! THESE GRAPHICS ARE SOOOOO GOOD, HAHAHAHA, THE GAMEPLAY IS NO LONGER A PRIORITY!!! I'M A WORTHLESS CONSUMER WHORE!!! I'VE BEEN THROWN AROUND LIKE A BEATEN HOUSEWIFE EVER SINCE THE WII DAYS AND I CAN'T TELL THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A SWITCH AND A PC, BUT SWITCH HAS BETTER GRAPHICS AND IT'S NINTENDO!!!! I LOVE NINTENDO!!!! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA, LMAO EMUCUCKS!!!!!

#NINTENDOSWITCHMASTERRACE

Yes, by a Metric Mile it is the BEST open world game ever.

Holla Forums is tsundere for Nintendo so they pretend it isn't.

You mean the shit tier ugly bitches all the shills and Nintendo cocksucking weeaboos use to shill their favorite piece of shit?

At least Midna and Cia were fuckable
Jew nose and fishbreath are shit tier and have awful designs.
Another Tumblr nose aberration just like Skyward Sword Zelda.

Others literally can't compete.

Play the fucking game.

open world hurts more games than it benefits, BOTW coulda shrunk its overworld down significantly and still been solid since half of it is just fields and mountainsides. worst of all there is no good reason to explore for anything other than ball-in-cup shrines cuz you don't find anything fun or good in the actual overworl

He probably made this same exact thread on cuckchan some time ago.

Trees respawn when you sleep
Stop lying nintendo shill

This is word for word the same thread you made before. Go peddle your crap somewhere else.

You're more than welcome to talk shit about BotW, it's hugely overrated. But talk shit and Paya or Mipha and I'm going to have to smack you up.

Did you just fucking reply to yourself. Oh my god.

He's made it here too, several times. Does no one remember? I'm going to start archiving these.

I find it sad how the four beasts are literally the best we ever got from video game developers when it comes to vertical level design/dungeon crawling. Optional ways to solve them, amazing atmosphere, extremely unique and innovative puzzles, awesome bosses.

Yet casuals even shit on them because they don't understand them.

Jesus. I like the game and want to talk about the open world genre in general with focus on BotW. Calm down, you fucking autist.

rool

The game does a ton of things right and a ton of things wrong. If Nintendo just keeps going forward with this formula with the strict intention of refining mechanics (let me reforge, repair, and upgrade weapons, for fuck's sake), adding new gadgets, new activities out in the world, more towns, structures, buildings, dungeon types, and so on.. Literally just keep building up in significant ways, then I'll be pretty happy.

Good Zelda discussion is haram on Holla Forums

We must all believe it is overrated and deeply flawed.

There's discussing the game, and then there's copy pasting an OP multiple times on multiple sites because your threads keep tanking. Take a hint and realize people don't really want to discuss this anymore.

Well, or alternatively they could have just made the game a bit… smaller. It already had a lot of towns and interesting structures, it just also had too much space they tried to fill with those horrible, horrible Korok shit.

I'm lmao'ing @ your life. Kill yourself.

We know its you you fucking autist goddamn you're blatant.


They're both shit tier and so is the obese grand fairy and I say this as a Thicc autist.
Shes puke inducing, that fucking face revolts me.


I do remember, I also remember checking the cuckchan catalog just to see if he was doing it and alas, I found the same fucking thread.

Fuck off

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Sad.

You have to lure them to leave their spawn points. You have to make these things happen, the world doesn't do it.
Second, historically speaking villages haven't stopped raiders from attacking settlements, and the game's setting claims that humans are still recovering form a major collapse event, there is no reason why the monsters wouldn't still be condiucting raids on human society and if they stopped then there would be no reason for the humans to not reclaim the territory. Also IIRC there were non walled settlements, if there is some kind of threat then what anyone in history would have done is make a walled settlement, but they have built standard house instead.

Kill yourself Cody

ROLL: ZELDA EDITION

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Name one thing I've said that someone who hasn't played the game would say. Everything I've said is the truth.

News at 11.

FUCK

applies to most open world games on the market, the cock-contest to make a giant world needs to fucking stop cuz it means players will spend more time traveling in a straight line than being engaged in an activity. in BOTW you can tape the control stick towards your destination and have a jerk while you wait theres so much barren space.

Open world also butchers making decent levels, this happened in MGSV as well. for every one well thought out zone you had like forty shitty little outposts that aren't fun to tackle. this was the case in BOTW , even worse so because even fighting moblins is a waste of resources so yo might as well just keep jogging past every enemy outpost since all you'll get out of it are monster guts and a shitty sword

Let's see.

I love posts like this by people who haven't played the game

HOURS AGO IN A DISTANT THREAD
I OP THE COCKSUCKING MASTER OF FAGGOTS
MADE AN UNSPEAKABLY BAD POST
BUT A BUTTHURT user, POSTING SMUG ANIME GIRLS
USED SAGE AS A DOWNVOTE
BEFORE MY THREAD 404ED
I SPERGED THE FUCK OUT, AND FLUNG MY THREAD TO THE FIRST PAGE
WHERE MY FAGGOTRY IS SEEN BY ALL
NOW THE BUTTHURT SEEK TO REPORT MY THREAD, AND BAN THE FAGGOTRY THAT IS OP

Ah shit, I remember you. Hope the vols don't panic-delete you again.

Its pretty obvious from the replies that a lot of people shitting on the game haven't actually played the game, or even read the OP. Not saying the game is perfect of course but somebody will reply to me and accuse me of being a Nintendo shill/cocksucker because they can't read.

Good Zelda discussion isn't allowed on Holla Forums, it doesn't fit their narrative

suck my dick, idiot.i will admit i gave the console and copy i borrowed back before fighting ganon because i was too bored to be compelled to finish it after doing the dungeons and getting the master sword and all the memories. something tells me the final fight probably sucked just as much dick as all the dungeon fights anyway

Tfw the eending was mediocre

It's fucking bait, you idiot. Why did you reply?

Yeah, you didn't play it.

Thanks for sharing.

Its a shitty version of Shadow of the colossus


Thank you

Hm.


People want their comfy villages in Zelda, though, and at least a very few places in the game where they can be sure nothing will attack them. And keep in mind NPCs can't die anyway, so what you're asking for could never be very impactful anyway and would most definitely just be a waste of time and resources and a trade of the comfy atmosphere for something pointlessly annoying.

There are things you can criticise about the game, this isn't really one of them.

[This is what Nintendkiddies actually believe]

Roll.

Yeah, the four beasts have a lot in common with the SotC bosses… Absolutely.

Why are you even browsing internet forums dedicated to video games when you know literally nothing about video games?

Play the game ffs

We usually call those people "board goblins" but lately they're trying to pretend that mass-saging completely random threads and demanding its deletion in the name of quality is par. Put up resistance to that out-of-place faggotry or else it'll get cemented via monkey-see-monkey-do from newbies and newfags more than it is already.

Nobody has ever said board goblin

You're welcome.

My sides


It was good for the budget and time they had.
Not only was the goddamn thing decent but it also triggered Tumblr and made me shed a tear.
Solid 8/10

But they have. I just did.

oh my fucking sides

roll

I can vouch that "board goblin" has been something I have used before. I think in regards to mark actually.

What a shitty game

Payed online is pretty fucking stupid tbqh.

Play the game

Fuck it I'll roll again, but I keep getting dubs.

OH MY GOD!!!

NINTODDLERS BTFO

Nintendo went into BotW with the intent to stick to the mantra "It's about the journey, not the destination" as much as possible… and they kind of did alright. You never went too long without finding a Korok, a Shrine, or an Enemy camp… But there were still some empty areas with jack shit in them. And the Korok challenges weren't always engaging anyways.

If they added in Bug-hunting and Fishing with equippable, possibly upgradeable, customizable Nets and Poles, that would spice up things even further. If you could prospect and use Dowsing rods to search for treasure and places to dig with some kind of shovel, that would be great. If they added more enemy variety and unique encounters, like the Yiga clan NPCs, or perhaps random mini-quests like Red Dead Redemption had, that would be awesome.

They did a lot of the little things right. The interaction of the different elements with the environment was fucking great, for instance. Doing shit like throwing a metal shield into a crowd of enemies during a lightning storm is just fantastic… But they also dropped the ball on a lot of the little things too. The fact that 90% of all the NPCs in the game have no interactivity beyond some bland chatter is pretty bad, for instance.

It could have been better. Frankly, I blame the Switch, which clearly forced them to rush the game to market and divert resources and stall the game's development so they could make sure the game was fit to run on their wonky hardware.

Being triggered is not banter user.

So is making repeated threads and letting nobody else have an opinion, like the OP
roll here too

Give me somethong good

I was hoping they would cliffhanger and hold out for more time. Season was god-tier except for a few eps.

FUCK

Yea both are really fucking stupid.

I don't think we're thinking of the same thing when we think "banter". Apply yourself.

The Shiekah slate already has a dowsing feature.

Yeah, yeah. Holla Forums hates the Switch we get it.

Holy fuck, are you ID hopping again?

Woah

Jesus.

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MARK MARK MARK
DELEEEEEEETE THIS

i wonder what her hair would smell like hahaha

Being able to track/radar specific items isn't the same as dowsing for hidden treasures and stuff. Either way, I'd like the see the feature improved.

And I blame the Switch because it was clearly and interfering factor in the development of BotW. They were ready to launch the system had NO FUCKING GAMES to launch with it.. so they kneecapped BotW a bit, polished it up some, and threw it on the console so their Q1 profits wouldn't be non-existent.

We've had this exact thread a couple times already.

Thats Nintentoddlers for you
Horizon Zero Dawn would be the same for Sonyggers if the board actually ate shit like cuckchan.

You can dowse treasure chests and resources etc

Last I checked it's pretty damn difficult to return to an IP/ID so no. You might have to come to terms with the idea that anybody who disagrees with you is not in fact one person sockpuppeting.

We've had the exact same generals for months now too.

Great some ID hopping fag.

I suppose you have a point. At any rate, my argument is that there needs to be more shit to do and more gadgets to do it with. Dowsing or otherwise.

No, they actually have gameplay and level design and aren't just "jump againt huge, moving thing, crawl to weak spot, hit attack button four times".

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No your point was

Because parts of the game are locked behind NFC figurines that Nintendo refuses to properly manufacture and sell.

In Ocarina of Time, a 19-year-old game, you earned Biggoron's Sword after some fetch quests requiring the horse and a few plays of the Sun's Song after all was said and done. You actually had to earn the most powerful sword in the game. In order to get Biggoron's Sword in Breath of the Wild, you need to give at least $60 to some scalper on eBay, scan the figurine, and hope for the best.

If I wanted to overspend in order to gamble, I'd take a weekend at Lake Tahoe or Vegas.

Ok, congratulations. This is the dumbest post ITT.

Learn to read you antagonistic faggot.

Why are Sony bros so jealous?

Daily reminder:

youtube.com/watch?v=aVPXKdSEGNQ

Ok, we get it you hate Nintendo, Switch is shit, Zelda is overrated etc

I can't stop fucking laughing

Holy fucking shit OP is perhaps the greatest troll we have seen for years.

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Are there or are there not weapons locked behind Amiibo figurines, particularly the now-discontinued "30th Anniversary" series?

Nope. You're just a colossal faggot and you're lucky that I'm giving you the (you)s that you need to sustain your fragile sense of self worth.

Go back to >>>/reddit/

Maybe they are sony bros but people who don't like shitty threads. Sounds to me like you haaaaaate self-moderation.

or Holla Forums is just stupider than we all thought and keep biting the blatant bait instead of letting the thread die

I can't tell if you have good taste or bad taste.

Post Zoro if ur gonna porn dump

Hell, enlighten me then, since usually it seems to be too much effort for somebody trying to sockpuppet and you'll never see a reply from that ID ever again if it turns out they are. Wait let me guess, "why should i tell somebody who's already doing it how it's done" and another smug reaction image.

You can't make this shit up

Wew lad, Nintentoddlers and Sonyggers are the same breed of cancer.

He's conflating self-moderation with "shit thread sage" behavior and that's about where I stopped paying attention to him.

Hmm.

Quantum Break was a pretty good game.

Why did Zelda always scare Sony fans and brown people so much?

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I didn't think that was an open world game user

Are there or are there not weapons in this game that are locked behind Amiibo figurines?

Hadn't thought about VPNs but there again I don't really use 'em. Thank you for the (You).

A small handful of weapons off the top of my head; I primarily recall Fierce Deity Link's greatsword at its most useful when you're using the related set and the Biggoron's Sword, both of which are powerful but are obtained entirely by random chance. Have to play the friggin' lottery every time you use an amiibo with the game.

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Great Game. Glad I got to play it 4free thanks to CEMU

Here is the real question after all the faggots shitposting and trying to fit in. How many hours did you anons get out of it? I got roughly 30. Which was main quest, Master Sword, pictures and the Hyrule Shield/65 shrines. The game itself is okay, but it is pretty soulless.

Does CEMU still stutter a fuckton and run on nothing less than a supercomputer?

Let's do this.

I bet you use Linux.

My Switch says '150 hours or more'.

70 hours so far but that's with a huge amount of exploration, dicking around, and avoiding the Divine Beasts until I had nothing else to really do. Haven't touched the pictures because I flatly don't care about Zelda's constant bawling about not having powers.

The stuttering stops after awhile, its just the emulator generating a shader cache. You can download premade shaders online so you can avoid stuttering if you're an impatient fuck. Unfortunately too big a shader cache actually eats up all your RAM. Expaz says that'll be fixed by 1.7.6 though

Windows 7, stay retarded though

How come you bought a Switch?

I thought the pictures were required to get the Master Sword? or am I retarded.

Absolutely considering that you think this thread deserves to be saved.

No, the pictures/memories aren't required, just 10 extra heart containers (ie 40 shrines). After which you can visit that Horned Statue and trade everything back into your stamina wheel and still retain the sword, once you've got it it doesn't care what your health is.

Honestly, I got a lot more than 30 hours, not sure exactly how many because I'm not counting. I'm a huge sucker for open world games, especially immersive ones like BotW. When there's a fucking storm the wind actually sweeps inwards from the coast and physics objects including monsters gibs are affected by this. Its seriously the little details that really make the world come alive. Its basically Skyrim if Skyrim was actually a semi-decent game instead of a lame as shit one

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When I saw the trailers and shit, I was really fucking excited. I thought it might be what other adventure games should strive to be.
Then it turned out to be pretty fucking cool, but only for a few moments in the tutorial area and then it became very fucking boring.

Don't buy a Switch JUST for BOTW. Just get it for the Wii U if you have one like me. There's literally no difference.

Gerudo village is a lot of soul, though.

nice false flag, faggot.

I was one of the good goys buying one at launch for CFW purposes and that one I can readily agree to, it is by absolutely no means a "killer app" or system-selling game. Doesn't even really whet my appetite for a new Zelda with what a huge departure it is and the lack of gadgetry to fuck around with.

Play for more than an hour

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I played it for an entire fucking week and got very bored when I activated all the towers. The towers and unlocking more of the world map on that shitty sheika Ipad was my only incentive to keep playing, and that's when I just stopped. I didn't even bother to explore the very last area I unlocked.

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I hated Skyward Sword, sue me. Not a fan of all the Skyward Sword elements like Hylia, or Ganon being a reincarnator instead of his own dude rapidly becoming so prominent to the series in general either. Hell, Ganon being caught "incorporeal" the way he is, about half-way to being reincarnated, in BOTW strikes me as fucking stupid.

We get it

There is a thing you and other people have to understand:

This game, unlike Far Cry, Witcher 3 and all the other open world games, actually has things besides the open world and shitty story quests. It actually has gameplay and dungeons which are amazing, especially the four beasts. So what you can do if you think the open world is too empty; you just rush from main village to main village and do the four beasts. And the main villages and the four beasts are amazing. So is Hyrule Castle. Plus more optional amazing things like Kokiri Forest and the Master Sword, secret mounts, mini games and the three mazes.

You are not forced to explore all of the "empty" world or even do all the shrines and yet there are still many, many things to do that justify the purchase.

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Taking a chance here.

He hasn't played the game.

So, this is bait, right?

Many people criticise the game for its emptiness or something, though, and they should read what I just wrote.

FTFY

Gotta go back, back to reddit
Get the fuck off my board
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Gotta go back, back to reddit
Get the fuck off my board
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Why? They just want to post "Zelda is overrated! Do I fit in yet guyz?"

Why don't you switch to Linux, user?
Are you braindead?
Didn't you know that Skyrim® can be fully experienced (with mods, by the way!) on the glorious platform known as Linux? Did you know that modders are a few steps away from making Skyrim (-F)OSS?

I just want to say that BOTW interests me specifically because it's a huge departure from the standard Zelda formula, which I hate. Free form puzzle solving in an open world action/adventure sounds great, as compared to rigid puzzle dungeons in a much more closed down adventure game.

The main thing I've always hated about Zelda and games like it is that if you don't get into the developers head for one puzzle, don't notice that one interactable object or way of doing things, you get stuck. It's a binary option, either you know the answer or you can't progress without cheating (guides). Something like BOTW would allow me to exercise problem solving ability (fun) at my leasure without locking me behind whatever one thing I don't get.

No it isn't.

This basically is the LoZ fandom right now.

Bullshit.

I'd like to correct that into "why I think I would like BOTW", since I haven't actually played it and won't until it becomes fully emulatable.

I also don't think enough of the fandom is that self aware.

Personally I'm holding out for their taking what they've learned from BOTW and applying more traditional Zelda sights and features to them; an inventory and items to tool about with, 11 dungeons or so, and all the usual trappings, but applied to BOTW's movement, exploration and world. The Divine Beasts and shrines weren't good replacements for dungeons, but individually they made for pretty good puzzles, outside of the ball-in-cup physics puzzles with Magnesis.

Also the possibility they'll Majora's Mask it at some point and make a whole new game with the BOTW assets and engine.

Well played

Does this mean there are cryptic puzzles where critical thinking and a good grasp of the controls won't help?

Just as an example, are there puzzles a lot like the secret for beating Psycho Mantis, where if you correctly guessed that switching control ports was the trick, you were either using a guide, calling Konami's 1-900 number, or just being an idiot that happened to be right?

Congratulations user, you played yourself

I would apply that to classic LoZ, yes. Maybe not AS bad as the psycho mantis thing, but the same basic problem. Unless you use a guide or happen to be suffering from the same brand of idiocy as the devs you are going to get stuck. In a linear game (or at least one where you need to complete every dungeon, even if not in linear order), getting stuck on a single puzzle typically means you cannot advance the game past a certain point. In an open world game you can always give up and still complete 99% of the rest of the game.

Also, the grand Master Sword that made you get 13 fucking hearts to unlock has got to be the shittiest reward for grinding my ass off with shrines. It does a "meh" 30 damage and breaks after 5 fucking hits (YES THE MASTER SWORD BREAKS TOO AND YOU HAVE TO WAIT 10 IRL MINUTES [YA CAN'T WAIT OUT THE COOLDOWN WITH A CAMPFIRE OR BED] AND IT'S ONLY USEFUL IN DUNGEONS)

Also the dungeos were shit. They all looked the exact same asthetic-wise and the puzzles are dumb as hell. The bosses are very boring, too.

The more I look at this game, the more it looks like a time sink with neat graphics. I bet it's no better than Fallout 4.

No. Nothing is the best anything ever. There are good video games, and then their are shitty, putrid piles of Tumblresque memes. This game was only decent. Stop having these stupid threads, you ugly shills.

MGS3 is objectively the best video game ever. Holla Forums already agreed on that.

Yeah, it's bait. We've had several of these copy&paste 'you can agree that BotW is the best open world' threads.

I finished the game and it was shit, and the 'open world' especially so. Vast stretches of nothing but a thousand copy&paste korok puzzles from the 10 different ones that actually exist, the enemy spawns are copy&paste from the tutorial area, there are only a couple enemy types and no critters, nothing is dynamic, everything just waits for you to approach. Even the climbing was pointless

It does double damage against guardians. It's still shit as Lynel gear is better.
I used it for mining as when it broke it'd fix itself. Embarassing that everyone seems to wind up doing that with the fucking master sword.

actually a pretty legit complaint
both the hyrule shield and master sword have durabilities, even though they're both supposed to be 10/10 shit.
it'd be better if the master sword had a cooldown, but instead of being not able to use it it simply has reduced damage or no beams, not completely fucking being taken out of the inventory

It takes a holy-shit-buttfuck-ton of damage to actually break it, and it would prolly last you the entire game. If it breaks just wait for the shitty Blood Moon and you can kill the giant skeleton faggot that drops it again in the Hyrule castle basement.

The only two games I ever remember being that good that the games themselves sold the consoles were:

The only console sellers were Halo games.

How much for killing yourself op?

you say it like that's a good thing

My biggest complaint are the lame-ass dungeons

Literally the "MUH BREAKABLE MASTER SWORD!" complaint is literally fucking retarded though. Only casuals give a fuck. The MS is already overpowered against Guardians. Giving it infinite durability would make the rest of the game boring as fuck. I mean seriously how fucking casual do you have to be to whine about Master Sword durability when its not even truly breakble anyways? Nigger the point is to actually explore the fucking world to gather weapons. You might actually find some Korok seeds to increase your inventory size that way

That said BotW is a solid open world, but it doesn't really feel like a Zelda game. It has a lot of problems, namely the extremely shitty copy+paste dungeons. But weapon durability is actually one of the few things that make the game good in my opinion.

Anyone have that image that was posted in here with all the tunics from each of the games.

Nah, item durability is one of the shittier aspects of "survival sandbox open world theme park" shits :)

FTFY

If letting the Master Sword work exactly as it did with the other games since A Link To The Past is what makes or breaks the balance of the game, there's other issues with combat that need to be resolved.

Like literally literally literally like totally literally literally literally literally literally literally literally literally like totally literally literally literally literally literally literally literally literally like totally literally literally literally literally literally literally like shaaaaaah fam

I can't believe that some of you guys haven't figured out that this faggot is making these threads just to piss people off and make them hate Zelda even more

If the master sword was indestructible then you would literally have no reason to use other weapons. You can get it fairy early in the game, you really only need to beat some Divine Beasts and grind like 1/4th the shrines and the shrines themselves are easy as fuck

I think Nintendo should've made the MS truly indestructible, but put it more towards the end of the game instead, that way grinding feels more accomplishing and retards can't complain

Literally not an argument

Is there a compelling reason to force the player to look for other weapons? No other Zelda game, not even the shitty CD-i games stoop to this level of filler.

Literally illiterate.

It would make the other weapons seem pointless. There would be no point to the games main mechanics of gathering items for shit other than cooking. That's also why the MS isn't the most powerful either, to encourage you to find stronger weapons.

I forgot to add that grinding has no place in a Zelda game and is one of a few reasons why Zelda 2 is repetitive and not worth more than one play through.

Te fact that the game has any grinding at all is enough to be called shit. Especially for a Zelda title. Where the most you would grind in prior games was during a Triforce hunt that nobody liked. Again this game is just a time sink with a decent art style.

That I can understand and its one of the reasons it really doesn't feel like a Zelda game

The Master Sword is indestructible in Ocarina, but the added strength and range of Biggoron's Sword adds some compelling reasons to getting it. Spreading these functionalities over to 20-30 other weapons is filler of a lower grade than what the US Department of Agriculture would approve for meat products.

Welp
ROLL

That's not the main mechanics of a Zelda game, though. You collect needed items and magic/hearts if necessary, and recover story items within each dungeon. There is no valid reason for any grinding or breakable weapons in an action-adventure game like The Legend of Zelda.

Help us contain your goon autism by filtering threads that bother you.

I would rather see THIS faggot return than OP's shit repost threads.

I am gonna fug Hatsune Marku

Roll

Stay mad pleb.

Who the fuck thought dubs having no reward was a good idea? Jesus fuck every god damn time.

I just want midna, okay? give me midna

OP has made this exact same thread multiple times on 8/v/ and cuck/v/. It's not about "threads that bother you", it's about OP trying to spam his shit thread and start arguments.

I just noticed 89. Unacceptable.

She go full koolaid?

It's fun but not that fun.
7.4/10
rollan

What? No. It's disrespectful nigger.

She's black? Use your words user.

op you sucked too many dicks today

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bull shit, i had to do the fast forward with campfires like 30 fucking times to open one of the ball-in-cup museums

Ho-ho-ho!

Fuck man why are there no waifus as good as her anymore. Why is life this way

It can happen two nights in a row. Shut up about things you don’t understand.

What were the criteria for that particular shrine?

is it possible to mod it in CEMU so weapons dont degrade?

I hate faggots who misuse this term.

Can you stop making this fucking shit tier bait thread all the goddamn time

you had to stand naked on top of its marker on a blood moon

More like Zelda BTFO by better games. Seriously tho, get this shit out of here you cockgobbling mongoloid.

Oh shit, someone actually made an edit of that faggot.

Breath of the Wild is honestly one of the best Zelda games ever made. I don't understand why people dislike it. You people bitch and whine that every game stays to a "formula" of "get item do dungeon" and then you bitch and whine and cry all day when they remove that and make you actually think to solve puzzles scattered literally everywhere.
I don't know how any person can get as entitled as a poster on Holla Forums

The world itself is really well designed. That's not to say it's contents is necessarily the best. Needed more enemy types, more sidequest variation, and so on.

This is some bait right here.

you're stoned. BOTW isn't a terrible game but its not a godsend, it fell into the same trap that MGSV did by forcing itself into having a needlessly huge overworld with less actual memorable areas than the previous titles which actually planned out their stages better

Well it's one of the best, but there are at least five better ones.

Did it? I mean the world is huge, but everything is also really condensed. You can't go in one direction for five minutes without at least passing something you can do. Which is the problem everyone has with open world games, a lack of things to do with proper rewards. Having that + the focus on physics, and being able to tackle problems however you want is what makes the game great.

But the price of that was having any real traditional/themed dungeons integrated into the world, so you're not just doing the same things all the time. (The Divine beasts are okay, but they just felt like 1/4 of a dungeon.)

That lack of variety beyond the overworld is what I think hurts the game. and how anticlimactic the final boss felt.

Forced grinding cuts out that "proper reward". Like Zelda 2, tacked-on RPG elements killed any semblance of replay value.

The problem with having a really large open world is that developers do not understand how to make them. Ideally a huge environment should interact with the player, by this I mean through weather, heat/cold, and abundance of things your character needs like water. If your open world is just space between things to do, or fight you've failed to make an interesting open world game. Trudging up a mountain isn't very fun, but add in ice/snow, and needing to stay at a warm enough temperature can really go along way to making just going somewhere an adventure. Of course done wrong it can just be annoying, but that's besides the point.

But it's almost all filler. Korok clones, shrine clones, the world isn't full, it's empty.

So, literally everything that Skyrim and Fallout 4 already did? Minus the half assed """""puzzle"""""

Nintendo is and has been under an extremely heavy media assault and everyone is buying into it like the good little goys they are. This is nothing new.

It wasn't huge, it was just empty.

Now this is bait I can reply to. How does it feel to have loyalty to a brand that doesn't even know you exist, let alone has any feeling of loyalty to you?

OP, I've recently played it. It felt like Minecraft meets Pixar, now with shitty swordplay and destructible weapons for whatever reason. The art direction is very effeminate and repulsive. Despite having many things to discover, it felt dull and sterile to me. Even duller than any Rockstar or Bethesda game I've played. If I was 10, I would enjoy this game, but now I'm 22 and I've been desensitized to such manufactured awe. If you want to shill this game, shill this game to little boys, just beware of being accused as a pedophile.

Wish you could stop not knowing anything about game design, though.

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I havent played much open world games as they get boring quickly but

There are some games like Just Cause 2 or GT V which feel way bigger than this

Not really, about 75% of these screenshots would have the same colors if they were taken during bright daylight.

lol no, i enjoyed climbing a couple of mountains but there are games with far more vertical play with planes and helicopters and flying stripclubs.

lol no if this game lacks something it is variety, everywhere you go you face the same 5 enemies, and do the same things, all that changes is the terrain.

I'll give you this one because other games interactivity mainly consists on NPCs retarded interactions or fights.

I like the game, and it had a share of fun moments, but it managed to dissapoint in almost all departments in the end, not because it was terrible but because it had lots of wasted potential.

That's not what ANYONE means when talking verticality. We're talking about vertical gameplay such as this.

And no, they don't.

Zelda is 100% handcrafted. Generic shit never feels big.

how about you kill yourself op

The best open world is hands down, Hulk Ultimate Destruction/Prototype.
Because the open world exists for you to have fun in instead of being "immersed" in, like immersion is a substitute for fun.

I think you should at least skim the thread to see if people have already made the exact same reply as you have when complaining about a repeat thread, buddy.

Do you think people stops every 10 seconds to admire the horizon, this isn't a fucking wallking simulator, well zeld didn't used to, but now it is

except i 've seen this thread with the same 3 screenshoots as OP at least 2 times before

I've seen >this thread again about four or five times in this thread alone though so it all pans out.

this thread is almost done shill, next time try to not make the exact same thread and dump you folder picture with the same shitty pictures here

Where the hell did that even come from?

Get that console pleb shit outta here!

In a lot of open world games people actually do, its called immersion. Although there are a lot of people who don't care for that kind of shit, I personally can appreciate it, its not for everyone though.

That's not what immersion means.

Enlighten me then oh lord of semantics

Well, it looks better on TV since the Switch is compressing screenshots.

However, you PC fats really have to learn how to make stage screenshots. Until then I keep making screenshots myself.

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Looks pretty good. Is the Switch version 720p even on the dock? What's the resolution when its in portable-mode? I am considering getting a Switch for the possibility of it getting hacked for homebrew

Still 720p when docked. There was a bug at launch that made it run better when portable than when docked but that got patched early, and a bunch of frame-rate improvements have been added since then too, so that the dips below 30 aren't as common or as severe as they were.

It's 900p docked.

You can be immersed in a game of chess.

i think that games that make good use of physics have some of the best replay value.

So you're a retard trying to play Devils Advocate and failed miserably? Got it!

This exact fucking thread again. Kill yourself you fucking shill.

You used a word wrong. Get over it.

That's where you're wrong, buddy.

No, you have no argument backing your assertion yet you are insisting on playing Devils Advocate. This thread has just about reached its bump limit ao it doesn't matter anymore. But I think you might be retarded. Otherwise just admit you lost, its not that difficult, nobody will judge you its an anonymous website m8

I'm not playing any role, I'm pointing out why you're incorrect. Immersion doesn't translate to what you're describing. Especially when you say that people prefer games that don't have it when they do.

You're nitpicking semantics though. I could easily argue my use of the word was entirely appropriate given the context
I'm done though, this is turning into an autism contest

You can finish if you want but I'm not nitpicking and you're still wrong. Immersion's been used wrong in the context you're describing for years now. And it still doesn't negate what you said about others games not having it. Even if your term was somehow correct it still wouldn't apply to what you're trying to describe here.

whats with all you anons with such a poor grasp of english

Nothing. He just used a word in the wrong context. All games have immersion as long as you're invested in them.

Why should he play a game for longer than a week if he finds it boring? 20-30 hours is enough time to judge whether or not you like a game that's this shallow.

why do you insist youre disagreeing when you arent?

He said people wouldn't care for immersion in a game. Which is false because all games can make you immersed.

If you are impressed by pointless gimmicks then yes this is the goty of the year all years go chop some trees and have fun

The Elder Links 5: ZeldaBorn

Dude what?

It is the best open world since morrowind, and has a better combat overall from other open world games Dragon's Dogma is not open world, but still gets stale fast.

BOTW is probably the worst Open World Game I've played yet


This game has the most undeserved praise I've ever seen, I hate it for pretty much all of the reasons mouth-breathing retards seem to love it. At least with OOT I can understand the worship of it, it's undeserved, sure, but It's at least competent on the things it should be as a 3d platforming and puzzle game. I don't think I'll ever understand why people love this game so much.

You're full of shit
You can slap a hearty lizard and a bokoblin horn in a cooking pot and make a full heal potion
Weapons are fucking everywhere
I mean literally fucking everywhere a fucking iron sledgehammer slid down the mountain right in front of me when I got to goron city
You can go to Hyrule Castle without Revali's gale, that's like bitching because you got a car in GTA you can DRIVE to places instead of walking there.
The Mastersword with the exception of IN hyrule castle is a piece of shit compared to other weapons, inside Hyrule Castle it has retardedly high durability and damage, and. early every room in hyrule castle is stuffed with weapons.
And are you seriously whining the game doesn't have a shitty timelimit that it will instantly game over you for exceeding.

No user, I'm mad that the game gives me no motivation to actually play, I was pretty much forcing myself to go back and finish it at a certain point. The game doesn't compel me to "save" Hyrule at all, pretty much everyone is hunky dory with the whole situation, sans some minor inconvenience from the Divine Beasts. In other games NPCs would tell you about how shit the world would be if Ganon won, and you can even see that in the Adult portion of OOT where castle town is dead, and various other places are seemingly irreparably fucked up, with more to come if you didn't step up. There was a sense of urgency in other games where there's none here, which is in part due to the Open World aspect of the game, which encourages, slow paced, "immersive" walks along the digital beach to bide your time. My point about Hyrule Castles is that it's utterly unchallenged, even without Revali's Gale, but fuck user, you CAN cheese it, and with incredible ease, how is that anywhere near acceptable? You got me on the healing potion, but the cooking system is still tedious bullshit and you know it, hearty lizards are also not as easy to find as you're making them out to be. And the weapon system is still uneccessarily tedious, I don't care how many free gimmie weapons I have to juggle through when I break one, it's stupid that they break in the first place, the whole system is fucked, especially with the Mastersword.

The game is just not that good user I know you probably have buyer's remorse I know I do, I bought the game on the Switch but you need to get over it.

You deserve to suffer because you bought a switch, though.

You're not wrong but at least I'm not shilling for the thing like the other user

Nigga did you just accuse me of shilling because you were talking out of your ass?

Dispute every other claim I made with legitimate counterpoints and then we'll talk

Then it's either the only one or you are retarded.

Happens.

Whatever you say thread cultivating shill user.

Not an argument but I do want to fuck BOTW Zelda

(29) you can easily make it to (100)

Actually, wait a minute, what's with all the soundless Webms, are you from fucking cuckchan?

He (or more likely they) are a (group of) shill(s) and posts the exact same threads with the same pics on every fucking message board, including gamefaqs and reddit.

You got nearly everything you said wrong, other than "I don't really feel like playing this game"

I know how good the game is because I'm not a blind fanboy. I hate Skyward Sword to death, BotW even disappointed me somewhat but I've played it for almost 300 hours, I'm aware of all its flaws and I still know that it's a fucking amazing video game.

For its four beasts, the difficulty, the incredible polishing (300 hours, literally not one bug), the soundtrack, the art and that interactivity alone already.


Yes, we all are, user. Unless you are literally three years old.

You're right, you're a cynical shill. Are your parents proud of you? Do you even tell them what you do or do you say you're in marketing?

Prove me wrong then user, what did I get wrong other than the healing potion? "everything you said is wrong" without any proof isn't viable


Again, not an argument, you're just saying you like the game, which is fine, you're entitled to your opinion, no matter how stupid it is, but it's not a counterpoint to all the problems I listed

And no one but people who crosspost on cuckchan use soundless webms you fucking retard, there weren't BOTW Webms 3 years ago. Tell the company that's paying you to update the script, 4chan and Holla Forums are not the same place.

I find it funny how some people on Holla Forums unironically call others "shill". You realize it's always the same 100 people posting here, right? What would be the point?

Read his post you dumbass.

Wow it's almost like you're reading directly from a script.

if they'll shill on Holla Forums they'll shill on Holla Forums, cmon now

and if you're not a shill, you're a moron with shit taste that can't argue his way out of a paper bag

None of the posts have accurately disproven even half of what I said, the only valid point against me is that you CAN make healing potions, the rest of the points still stand uncontested.

Also, BotW is one of the few, maybe the only game still supporting Aryan traits and protectionism in a sea of Marxist shit games.


So, you want to tell me this 10/10 game is actually horrible (not overrated which I agree with but horrible). So horrible, I'm a stupid person or a shill if I enjoy it and talking about it?

Right?

I just want to get this straight so I know where we are at.

Oh look, he's trying to fit in by virtue signalling Holla Forums, how cute.

6/10, got me to reply

It's funny because the stiltedness of the language. "Supporting aryan traits" and "protectionism?" What does supporting Aryan traits even mean? That it has blond people? How is protectionism, a specific style of trade policy, even relevant when discussing race or this at all?

This is someone who's never even been to Holla Forums trying to sound like it and it's really bad.

Like I said, either an idiot or a shill, though I'm leaning more toward underage cuckchanner/redditor that can't stand that people don't like the game he likes, he seems like he's desperately trying to fit in, failing misreably

Word of advice to newfags: who fucking cares if Holla Forums doesn't like the game you like? Why do you feel the need to try and prove to everyone here that it's good, if you like it, who the fuck cares if anons don't? Fuck man I play overwatch, I know Holla Forums doesn't like it, but I don't try and shill and defend it here, I'm not going to change their minds and I don't need to, if I'm having fun, then who cares if other anons don't like the game?

You know you could just read one of the 500 positive reviews or watch all those 2 minutes videos answering why this game is good, right?

If I was a shill, I'd do this, maybe, but I'm not. I literally don't even want you to buy this game since I believe you literally don't deserve it. Stay away from it, I beg you.

I want to talk about open world games and Zelda with people who actually care about both, not with desperate children shitting up a thread about a game they don't like (how shit must your life be anyway?).


Why do you ask a question and then answer it yourself? Do you just like to waste everyone's time? How many games with a blonde, blue-eyed main protagonist and a blond, blue-eyed love interest that came out this year can you name? And how many of those franchises have an antagonist who comes from a desert with an Ashekanzi name and a "Jewish nose"?

Exactly. Now stop playing dumber than you are, you are not clever enough for this game.

All the tribes live inside their own village with their own benefit being the top priority.

He's decisively a shill, reverse image search the picture he uses as the thread starter, it's always the same collage, using the exact same language, here or on other website.

Yes, I'm sure my ancestors were just waiting in the halls of the dead to be used as a marketing tool for a mongolic toy.

We're not shitting up the thread, we're pointing out the problems that we have with it, are we not allowed to dislike the game just because you and 500 other retards and paid reviews on metacritic gave it glowing reviews? And you still haven't addressed any of the issues I listed here

I see you finally got a Webm with sound though, good to know the shills are at least listening to feedback

Well, if they were more intelligent than you are, they certainly liked to see some antipole for all the racemixing/multiculturalism propaganda shit games western developers are shitting out lately.

Although I don't even see why you bring your shitty ancestors up in the first place, implying they'd think so low of video games and you care so much about what they think, while you seem to be obsessed with video games browsing this board.

Literally mental illness.

Going to work out now. Looking forward to some more autistic shitposts by deranged Sony fans.

You called the four beasts crap so I stopped reading. Not wasting my time.

how are they not shit user? Explain your fucking point to me, just saying "I disagree fuck your opinion" isn't a fucking arguement, I've explained my problems but you don't seem to want to explain yours, why is that? are you a shill? are you a newfag? What fucking counterpoints do you have to anything of what I said other than "I disagree lol"

I already did in the thread and unlike most shitposters I actually explain it when I call something shit or good. Unlike older Zelda dungeons, they respect your time, the time you need to solve them solely depends on how good you are. Solving puzzles actually doesn't take much longer than the actual execution (many of the shrines still suffer from this, though). Which is a main reason old dungeons were so long. In most older Zelda dungeons you know immediately what to do and yet it takes ages. Take all those block pushing puzzles for example. The design is more organic (literally supposed to look like animals) instead of squarish rooms that all look like Lego (the reason rooms and obstacles looked like this in older Zeldas was because of the auto-climbing mechanics). Now you can just actually climb, run, jump and whatever all over the damn place. There are optional ways to beat them. Hell, you can beat that Goronia beast without even turning it once if you're "good" and if you don't care about missing anything. The game streams the entire dungeons, there are no loading times (another reason why those dungeons appear to be so short), while every room in older Zelda dungeons had to be loaded seperately and even just opening gates took ages with long sequences. You can sprint. Puzzles are actually extremely innovative and engaging and exploration is actually rewarding, especailly trying to get the optional chests which often hold those rare cores you need for some of the best and coolest equipment in the game. All the bosses are a lot of fun, especially if you aren't overpowered already (that Gerudo charge attack or max upgraded armor does this). They make you value the Master Sword and your Kokiri Forest trip even more since it's constantly glowing and almost two-hits the little guardians. Amazing atmosphere; soundtrack, art and sense of scale when outside.

That elephant guardian and all the puzzles partaining to its trunk or that wheel were fucking brilliant. If you don't see any of this, it's your loss and you probably don't deserve better in the first place.

However, I wonder with what expecations you started playing this game. You do realize that all the other open world fantasy games don't even have dungeons on the level of one of those 120 shrines, right? Generic, linear corridors in Witcher 3 are considered "dungeons". And don't even get me started on Final Fantasy, Tales of or those snake, bird, fish shit in Skyrim. Those games have almost no interactivity or gameplay depth. And you really shit on Zelda BotW? Shame on you and your retarded double standards you don't even notice.

There's your answer,

You've articulated your blind praise of the game a bit better but still have no concrete things to say other than "this part was great" with no real explanation. I disagree, the Main dungeons were short, simplistic, and most of all boring, they all had the same exact gimmick which made the puzzles feel too similar to each other. The bosses were similarly identical save for their final phases, which at most required an ounce of intelligence to figure out how to beat. While I think mixing up the formula of "Find Item in Dungeon, use it once and never again" was for the best, it was executed poorly, all the main dungeons, and to a certain extend some of the more physics based Shrines all had the same gimmicks with the sheikah slate powers, it's really the reverse of the classic Zelda conundrum, the same items are used throughout, but never in a unique enough way to make them interesting.

Also other games doing a shittier job with dungeons doesn't excuse BOTW for doing a shit job, baring Skyrim the other games you mentioned are worth more than the sum of their parts, making up for it in their other aspects, and unlike Zelda they aren't supposed to be focused on puzzle-heavy dungeons. BOTW does open world exploration lazily, and does the dungeons even worse.

I literally explained everything, you mentally ill freak. You have optional ways and choices and it actually feels like exploration. Are you faimilar with the self-generation affect effect? When this effect applies, you know there is exploration. And I valued my experience with those beasts mainly because of this effect. I also just explaiend why they are "short" and why it's a good thing. Older Zeldas are literally a waiting game, filled with enemies that aren't a threat, loading times, slow climbing and pushing blocks or aiming for small things.

And no, they absolutely didn't have the same gimmick. You can see this by literally just looking at them from the outside.

Considering older Zelda games are some of the best games ever made and BotW doing it better should tell you something, though. So does the fact that basically all other games in this world do dungeons worse than Zelda.

You are a mentally retarded piece of shit and should kill yourself. This game sells like hot cakes and, while it's overrated, it gets a lot of high scores it deserves.

Deal with it.

Back to ignoring shitposts that are not worth my time.

Will any open world game ever top this level of variety, interactivity and verticality?

Will reviewers keep giving 10/10 to procedurally generated shit like Bethesda games?

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Only Xenoblade 2 will top this this generation, right?

This HAS to be satire

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You got us. It's just a big prank, bro. All those official reviewers, the score, the millions of people buying it and enjoying it, all the playthroughs on Youtube and Twitch with people praising it. We're just kidding.

It's just a prank!

Yeah I heard it's the dark souls of jrpgs

I'm still waiting for the porn here.

Let me sperg out on the protectionism part.
You are not wrong on the own benefit, but are wrong on who is being benefited, the act of protectionism is one where you discourage the buy of outside products in order to benefit the inside industrys or makers of said products by or putting more taxes or banning their entry, it always increases the price of said goods, it helps the makers, not the population most of the time. So you jew out on the pop.

Some people like to feel good with money, some with beverage, some even go through pain to feel good, here we feel pain through video games in order to feel good.
Everybody picks it's own poison, don't be a prick because your poison is not the others taste.

The porn was a lie user.

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BOTW is a decent game.
it has many faults, but it is a decent open world game that has managed to get much more aspects right than many games in the past.
If I were to select a few minor faults, it'd be as follows
and to select a few major faults
some of the coverage of BOTW is overrated, others are fair.
in terms of relativity, BOTW is the best thing that has come out for awhile
but when looking at games in general, not so much.

Our Impa is pure trash.