STOP RUINING MY FLAG YOU NEWFAGS

1. Do you support Friedrich Ebert
2. Do you support Tony Blair

1. Dont know too much about Ebert, from what i do know, as leader of the SDP at a very volitile period in german history, he tried to bring about peace, but allied with the wrong side in the Freikorps so from that information my verdict is: Unquestionable principles, wrong choices, probs had a soft spot for the right anyways to make said choices so i dont like him too much.
2. Blair won Prime minister the year before i was born, but i do know about his labour leadership before hand, and ever since he changed Clause IV was his admittance hes not left at all, but centrist, and so imo not a socdem at all. The only thing i admire new labour for was Mandelson and Campells media approach, and Blairs media appearance (Charisma etc.), policy wise it was neo-liberal, quantitative easing, trickle-down shite with a warmongering egomaniac at the helm.

apologize for Rosa and we'll talk

i think Atlee was a good example of a socdem. As is sanders but hes well old m8

1. would u fuck corbyn or sanders
2. will you into worker's self management?
3. how will you prevent your reforms from being immediately rolled back when the nearest corporate shill party is elected?

you called?

the problem is that no matter how smart the old guard tries to be, they will always be succdem

1. Ohhh good question i think sander might get a heart attack or bust out his hip so corbyn, but i dont know if he would be totally committed to the cause (of pushing my shit in.)
2.I think to an extent workers self management is a good idea, there does need to be a level of coordination and admin between plants and what not, but as for a worker using his labor as his own and organizing to create for the good of society, i see great benefits.
3. Easy mode: dont let them get elected :^) (the one thing i admire new labour for, they wanted power, and its how you achieve change outside of revoloution) hard mode: enshrine them into constitution, in the UK thats super hard mode but is achievable. the middle ground is having reforms which have public support, the more public support your reforms have, you more support you will have to make more reforms and so on.

I'm old-guard socdem. Like Bernie Sanders and Jeremy Corbyn. I like Kshama Sawant as well. Trotskyists are reformists no? I'm very anti-Euro and anti-EU. Look what they did to the PIIGS nations.

As for Rosa, that was almost 100 years ago and the SPD at the time were warmongers.I am not familiar with SPD's history in Germany before or after that. They killed Rosa and were warmongers is all I know.

Socs are just as left as the rest of you, but see the current frameworks of democracy as workable, im pretty down for revoloution too, give me a shout when its happening.
Pic is my compass, i know their a meme now but i still think theyre fairly accurate. Im probably less spooked than some of the an-coms on idpol