Tfw prolepilled a friend on communism

Have you cured any of your friends of liberalism?

haha no

I don't think so. I must be very shit at persuasion, because I already know verbatim all the arguments anti-Socialists will make before they make them, and I still struggle to respond them.

I got one of my friends to be an anarchist, although he still has liberal tendencies. Tbh though he was never particularly ideologically attached to capitalism; I have other friends whom I could never convince.

Usually it goes something like,
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A high school kid I talk to sometimes said he was thinking about economics for the first time. He asked where value came from, and I convinced him of the LTV. Then I explained that under the current system, part of your labor product is taken for your boss's profit. He said "huh, capitalism is kind of messed up." We're breaking the conditioning…

I've had fair success with converting social democrats to democratic socialists using the grand failure of European social democracy as proof that you can't leave capitalism intact if you want any of your gains to last.

SYRIZA immediately capitulating to the banks was fairly disillusioning.

Are you sure he wasn't just pretending to agree so you'd shut up?

How did European Social Democracies fail?

He bought the communist manifesto so I doubt it

Well, the Nordic Model for one, is failing. The Factories are leaving and so on.


Couldn't get to promote communism… but at least Stirner suited their ideology.

Prolepilled three friends and counting.

I can't tell if he's gone full communist yet or just converted from liberal t social democrat but it still feels good.

Hopefully the seeds I planted grow

read it as

I wouldn't say it's failing, rather that it's just not being implemented at all

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Neh, that's when you make someone an AnCap.

You sure you are not a feudal lord, user?

Around the time of Castros death it became pretty apparent all my friends are liberals and I had to act.

My american friend got all butthurt about it

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Ancaps are not pedophiles. They just want to be able to sell their children to pedophiles. Totally different.

w-what do you mean by this?

Revolutionary pedophilia

Is loli a class?

moar?

Oh my~

yeah what's the source you cunt?

idk got it from another thread where no one knew either.

God you guys are such children.

this is the argument i present to the typical person, because most people are already disgusted by crooked politicians and $$$special interests$$$, which you can use to move into a discussion of capitalism

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That's a failure in of itself.

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absolutely, I guess the bourgoise "democracy" is one of the big problems with social democrats. In Sweden Olof Palme was close to implementing "employee funds" which would have mandated that something like 20% of profits would be used to transfer ownership to unions and workers. This would actually be a step towards genuine social democracy in the old sense of democratic transference to socialism. Ofc bourgie got spooked and started financing massive campaigns against this.

But if it had worked it would have been great, and Sweden would no doubt be the most prosperous and equal country in the world. The ideas would probably have been spread to other similar social democracies like Finland, Denmark etc etc


But yes so far social democracy has been bit of a failure, it hasn't worked simply, parliamentary democracy is easy for the capital to control