The Soviet Union

In the very same book Stalin admits that the USSR had commodity production and that the value form continued to exist in the USSR.

Don't bother, Stalinstache will tell you you're wrong about the USSR and then not cite anything to correct you.


Except when those goods became available to foreign buyers for this low subsidized price - those goods predictably got bought out. But Gorbachev refused to raise prices to world level nor did he close borders. Thus the infamous "deficit" - failure of Soviet economy to supply the whole planet with subsidized goods.

The stagnation and deficit the Soviets experienced happen well before Gorbachev and was happening at the time that Kruschev came to power. It was due to not being able to accurately judge firm performance.

Also, workers had their say on things, which is after all the point.

Ahh yes, sounds more and more like fascism by the minute.

Don't become Holla Forums

I agree with most of it but the agricultural reform was still a major fuck up

Don't forget how Stalin undid any revolutionary reforms in the Spanish Civil War, handing power and industry back to the bourgeois in Republican Spain just in time for Franco to carry on with business as usual.

Don't forget that Stalin was aiding the nationalists in China till it was all too clear to everyone that Mao was going to win that struggle.

Don't forget that Stalin immediately regretted his decision to recognise North Vietnam and insisted that China be solely responsible for providing material and training assistance to the Viet Cong.

Stop pretending that he was talking to me.

Not to mention, I had already explained this bit several times anyway - and got no intelligent counter-arguments beyond the usual shit-flinging of "how dare you disagree with [insert some post-Trotskyist pseudointellectual]" - which is why I'm not even trying to reply to this nonsense anymore: it's pointless to discuss Marxism with those who don't understand the basics of it.

Two statements and nothing to support either of them. Who is telling "you are wrong" and not citing anything?

Except, you are not even telling that I'm wrong. There is literally no reaction to the actual point that was made.

Go away Serbian

aeon.co/essays/how-the-soviets-invented-the-internet-and-why-it-didn-t-work

Not directly answering your question, but it's a good place to start.

The Soviets had become so calcified and bureaucratic that it all started to fall down around them while the party elites refused to engage with any of the problems.

Gorby tried to, but ended up just being a weak-SocDem. I think the Soviet system was kind of unsalvageable to be honest.

Weak? He practically reached Rosa Luxemburg levels of SocDem.

1990, four years after Glasnost: Soviet Congressmen (elected public officials of the highest order) are officially not allowed to talk nasty things about Gorbachev under the threat of immediate revocation of their parliamentary immunity and persecution for treason (Gdlyan-Ivanov case).