This is why the Soviet Union was the best and most socialist country ever and why Stalin's a cool guy.
not a tankie shitpost [cuz I ain't one] -> refute and/or support my claims which I got from MLs; let's have a direct discussion on the good old motherlad [again, ugh, but haven't seen a thread like this in a while]
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The creatures outside looked from tankie to Holla Forumsyp, and from Holla Forumsyp to tankie, and from tankie to Holla Forumsyp again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.
Also it's pretty pointless to refute all that pure ideology. I'd ask for better arguments, but I know the tankies don't have any.
How would you refute it even though it's pointless?
A) Just because Stalin was a dictator doesn't mean the USSR was democratic.
B) Kulaks may have deserved it, but dirt farming peasants didn't. Collectivization had to happen, it could have been forced in the case of the actual kulaks, but in the case of poor peasants another method should have been used. A stick and carrot approach could have been used to motivate people to collectivize, or the land could have been bought from the peasants by the state.
C) Purges were stupid and ultimately only happened because Stalin didn't want to tolerate any challenges to his authority. They also ultimately hurt the country since many experienced Civil War era generals were purged and as a result the officer corps of the Red Army was relatively inexperienced when the Nazis came.
Yeah but after the collectivization of agriculture and ww2 he went nuts and killed thousands of innocent people that weren't "British spies"
At least when collectivization killed millions you could say if was for a cause
Legit question for a shit thread - why did the USSR fall apart? Thus far I've only been exposed to the cappie narrative that ""communism"/central planning failed because it went against the market", but I would be interested in hearing the leftist take on it.
material conditions
had workers authority in the party. A number of journalists reported on the subject already.
Wew.
key phrase "in the party"
it's not really democratic if a small group of individuals are making decisions for the whole, whether it's a royal family, a capitalist inner circle, or a "socialist party".