I want to play hard games, give me recs

You don't name "JRPG"s and then expect someone to take you seriously, user.

both genres aren't played for difficulty eitherway but rather you play them for interest and their experience

nvm OP go die in a fire. My recs are too good for your lame ass.

He was shitting on turn-based games, I listed two turn-based games.

Semantics autism.

Preference doesn't mean I won't play anything else.

bump

If you don't care about cheating AI, galciv 2 on suicidal should be hard enough.

Roll a die. If it lands on anything other than six you lose.

That'd certainly be deeper gameplay than a majority of post-square enix's entry into the RPG genre games.

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