MMO stagnation

How do "survival" games fit into this? They aren't MMOs but they're large (50+ player) MP games with permadeath.

If you haven't played UO or Meridian 59, you know nothing about MMOs and their potential as a genre.

The only distinction there is the lack of official servers and optimization for ridiculous amounts of players
So really, it's not much of a distinction

meanwhile I'm just over here playing EVE crusading a genocide against all Goon-kind and enjoying some of the best lore I've seen in a long time.

Yeah we need someone to remake the classics to get the ball rolling until someone is smart enough to expand on the concepts in MMO's rather then just simplify and remove content so the stupidest person can get everything in the game.

Sounds like autism to me

endless online is still kicking?

what about Graal?