I hate systemd but it's currently the fastest init only being beaten by runit
What happened to the debian family?
Gavin Miller
Adam Rivera
Around 20% of the people who argue against systemd (on Holla Forums, anyway) understand what systemd is and what it does.
If it were 0% then these arguments could just be dismissed as entirely pointless. If it were 80% then these arguments would be informed and interesting. But instead we're stuck in the worst possible world, where the anti-systemd crowd has a lot of a valid arguments but most of what it produces is still bullshit.
Matthew Gonzalez
Name one.
Mason Reed
Go formulate that question on the devuan mailing list fag.
Oliver Adams
You mean the folks who manage to maintain Debian two releases behind schedule?
Daniel Davis
None of these are a problem for me personally (so I'm a happy systemd user), but off the top of my head:
- Only compatible with Linux
- A couple of small bad weird things (leading digits in usernames and the 8.8.8.8 fallback DNS are overblown, but still problematic)
- INI file specifications are more opaque than shell scripts (I like tasteful opacity, but not everyone does, even outside the context of systemd)
- A lot more things happen in PID 1 (again, most claims about this are overblown because it separates most things into different processes, but PID 1 still is a lot larger than traditional, and that does have disadvantages)
- Violates the Unix philosophy (even moreso than GNU, GNU's violations are restricted by Unix compatibility) (I personally hate the Unix philosophy though)
Owen Flores
Then do it yourself.
Aiden Reed
But why would I? I have no reason to maintain Debian since Debian is already being maintained by the Debian team, and I have no reason to use Debian because I have more than 512MiB of RAM.
Charles Price
Just read this fucking thread and get your head out of the trash
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Levi Nelson
kys for baiting this low.