Free Software talking head (((Bryan Lunduke))) decided to publish a concern troll against the Software Freedom Law Center, and their counter-attack against the Software Freedom Conservancy's SJW's activities.
For those with a short memory, SFC has been blackmailing potential donors with Jesse Jackson-style attacks against them if they didn't continue donating.
Lunduke is a faggot, and you should have figured that out when he baselessly claimed that Mozilla gave money to terrorists.
Ian Gonzalez
sure, son.
Wyatt Robinson
Mozilla gave money to Riseup. Riseup is used by lots of different people and groups, including the Tails project, who Lunduke enthusiastically interviewed last year. Riseup probably allows antifa to use its e-mail service. But then again, cock.li and Holla Forums would allow them too.
Austin Jackson
Or people like Randi Harper aka freebsdgirl.
Liam Wood
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Evan Flores
Are you new? Your quoting syle is off, your use of parentheses is excessive, some of the posts you're replying to are criticizing Lunduke, and you're using honest-to-god Reddit spacing.
Joshua Thompson
Literally from their website:
So, this is not an email service that is for everyone: It explicitly says it is providing resources for allies in their Marxist agenda.
Jason Williams
FreeBSD is what the NSA used. It was running the capture box in AT&T's room.
Benjamin Mitchell
riseup will pull service from conservative groups. It's for leftist terrorists and their friends only.
Samuel Fisher
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Jace Kelly
Are you pretending you aren't the OP? The OP with the same flag and the same quoting oddities?
Dominic Butler
Waiting for your evidence that I'm OP. just another gentoo user.
Christopher Wilson
God forbid we discuss how SFC is pushing a new propaganda campaign, like OP talked about. Who's the major funders of SFC?
Thomas Jenkins
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Lincoln Hall
OP here, above user has never seen two Gentoo users before.
Any conversations on this thread are great, and I like reddit spacing. Two great tastes that taste great together. At least there's a discussion.
Bentley Carter
Why are you so adamant to distract from the actual topic, shill?
Hudson Jackson
just ignore him if your walnuts are warmed.
Joshua Sanders
Any evidence or just conjecture? I know ancaps who've used riseup for years.
Adam Lewis
BSD is used extensively throughout FedGovs infrastructure.
Daniel Harris
They have no way to do so.
Chase Nelson
Yours is the only post in months that so much as mentions the Software Freedom Conservancy. I checked. Are you fresh from /g/?
Thomas Brown
I assumed that people got their tech news from more than just Holla Forums and /g/, hence the "short memory" bit. There's been a lot of discussion into Karen Sandler's activism with Outreachy on multiple sites. I'm honestly shocked that Holla Forums hasn't discussed it.
And yes, this is my second thread in 6 months. I lurk on both Holla Forums and /g/.
Henry Morgan
That may be, but that doesn't make them antifa and antifa isn't an organization anyway. Lunduke was equivocating and if you think he won't say literally anything he can to get attention, then you haven't been listening. Lunduke should be ignored.
Hudson Price
The main reason your thread is going to shit is that the only way for people to get informed on this topic is by watching a half-hour video. Your OP isn't very useful. I have no idea whether I would agree with Lunduke and I don't want to invest half an hour of my time into finding out when I have no way of knowing whether it'll be worth it. Try remaking it with additional (non-video) sources and a better summary, and then report the old thread to ask for deletion. And consider removing the maymay parentheses and the word "SJW". Their meanings are so nebulous that they don't add any information to your text, other than "I dislike these things". They're pretty much noise at this point.
Samuel Ross
Honestly, I don't mind if the thread goes to shit. Discussions happened, even if they weren't what I was looking for. If this thread dies, it's fine with me.
Regardless, thank you for the input. when I make a 3rd thread in a few months, I'll apply your suggestions.
Blake Davis
Without having yet a fully formed opinion on this matter I would like to point out that: >Free Software talking head (((Bryan Lunduke))) decided to publish a concern troll against the Software Freedom Law Center, and their counter-attack against the Software Freedom Conservancy's SJW's activities. Is this suddenly about SJWism or about trademark cancellation, a name that SFLC (Software Freedom Law Center) helped give the SFC (Software Freedom Conservancy) in 2006. If you want to call out the SFC for shitty behaviour (sauce?), be my guest, but I fail to see how that means that the SFC should have their trademarked name cancelled considering that the SFLC hasn't done anything about it in 11 years.
This raises to questions: 1. Are the recent actions of the SFLC justified? 2. Has the "SFC has been blackmailing potential donors with Jesse Jackson-style attacks against them if they didn't continue donating"?
Those are two separate questions and I fail to see how they are related.
James Cruz
The whole reason Eben Moglen even started this action was because it was the only way he could fuck with the SJW's in SFC. Much like Al Capone was incarcerated for Tax Evasion, rather than bootlegging, murder, etc.
Here's Linus Torvalds directly comparing Bradley Kuhn to Typhoid Mary, and how the disease of litigation spreads from him. It should have sufficient breadcrumbs to lead you to further examples of their behavior, and how few people actually support them: lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/ksummit-discuss/2016-August/003580.html
Dylan Allen
coming from the man who let the fox into the henhouse: techcrunch.com/2016/11/16/microsoft-joins-the-linux-foundation/ Lawyerisation is a bad thing, but I wouldn't trust Throvalds as much as I would trust a comatose grandmother to throw a safe full of gold 2 miles.
1. Is there any proof or something to suggest that this is Moglen's way of stopping the (allegedly) bad influence of the SFC, apart from speculation? So far, none it would seem. 2. Will this tactic work? Doubtful has the SFLC suggested that name when starting the SFC.
Joshua Perry
It means that they support anarcho-communist groups, which includes antifa. Funding riseup means funding infrastructure used by antifa and groups related to antifa, just indirectly so that it's intentionally harder to make the connection while still providing meaningful support. It's still correct to say that they're giving meaningful support to antifa.