A New Archetype for the Ages

ITT: we discuss how to create a new world movement to defend the blood of our people.

It often baffles me how pretty words like "progress" and pyramid scheme level promises can enrapture the intelligent people to such a degree that it can take over the fucking world and cause an entire race to commit suicide.

The Marxist cult was designed on the same methods of early Christianity according to Karl himself. Zionism was designed through victim mythology, playing on the historically neurotic fears of Jews. Islam I'm not too familiar with but I know took "pagan" desert cults and unified the sand niggers under one political ideology.

1. What are the absolutely necessary tools for creating a cult movement based on preserving the blood of our peoples and abandoning pathological altruism toward these hairless apes and half breeds that want to fuck us or kill us out of existence?

2. Is there a way to abandon traditional (false) morality while remaining moral toward the things that count like your health, your family, you blood race, and showing kindness to that which benefits us like nature/animals/orphans?

3. Can we base it on reason and not esoteric lies while still giving people the kind of hope that they are willing to die for (like with Communism or Christianity)?

I believe Satanism (adversarial pagan archetype) would of worked very well if Jews and faggot degenerates like Crowely/Levine didn't steal Nietzsche's works and make it into creepy larping edgy weakness.
We need a BLOOD CULT that isn't into sacrificing cats and dressing up like Harry Potter. Something on the level of Marxism, but deeper than National Socialism ever dreamed of going.

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Technocratim fetishism + radical traditionality + unchained meritocracy + ingroup preference + warrior ethos = Imperivm

The message isn't the problem. Actually having a viable vector to deliver it (charismatic leader riding a wave of discontent) is.

Technocratic*

fuck, I'm too drunk to be posting

Read the Hero with a Thousand faces OP, and Thou Art that.

Its all you need to know, plus maybe some edward bernays and marshall mcluhan

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Hawking is a retard. Has he ever been proven right with causality?

Every time I read about him it's always some shit about some fringe theory that could maybe apply to some other fringe theory.

That's a big child.

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How the fuck do you even get that hueg?
Where does this dude find the time to eat so goddamn much?

Why is it that white nationalists never think of subverting institutions and money through lying and moving up ranks?

You don't need a movement when you can have one mega billionaire Aryan funding and producing the means for a movement like Soros.

You need a secret or not so secret society to get rich, get involved in real politics (covertly)

Dropped. I think what you mean, OP, is that we need to abandon the cucked and profane tradition we live in today.

However, we need to fill the void with natural traditionalism. Also, don't discount devotion. It may seem petty and backwards, but devotion is one way in which to reach a higher societal understanding when we are living in darkness. Without the embrace of the etheric guiding force of nature.

We need a ==CHURCH OF EVROPA==


One for exclusively majority genes of European ancestry. Teaching the history and traditional morals of our ancestors. We need to wash away the white guilt and bring back the white pride. In order to encompass all whites, it needs to be a hub for all types of christians, pagans, even satanist, etc. Religeons has traditionally been a unifying force for people in the past, we need it now more than ever.

Hi newfriend.

I don't need a blood cult.
I am sticking with my country's religion, my country being that of Poland.

Poland has fought against the Islamification of Europe by answering to calls from the Pope to remove shit skins like at the Battle of Vienna. The Roman Catholic church has been subverted by kikery and degenerates.

Make Roman Catholics Great Again

KEK

You're welcome for defending your ass when Europe was under attack from shit skins and grabbing land left and right, raping left and right, and enslaving white women and white children left and right.

Spirit /=/ to the flesh and Blood….

does not equal equate I mean

Marxism seems to be a religion without church or central authority and dogma… We need something like that.

Stoicism would cover all that… But a leader is not coming obviously. We can't wait for Messiahs like shitskins do.

What haha? I have O- but what about every other white person?

Why would you want something like that which does not tie down to race? Being Roman Catholic used to be the white man's religion, but now it is for any shit skin. You surely don't want something like that.

ok… But how?

those who don't have O- aren't white, user.
they're mutts.

I have O+ and then there is a negative diahphed or some word I can't pronounce I dont know… So it's O+. Just looked it up

Fuck that, the goal is to get rid of any and all global ideology, I don't want external people dictating shit in my nation, I don,t want external influence on the culture of my people, I want them to be left the fuck alone so they can actually develop a real identity and culture instead of always having parasites trying to subvert, tweak or dictate how it should be. I don't give a fuck if that world movement isn't ran by kikes, I want NONE of it.

So you just kill off all the O-…. That's a good idea

You're a fucking weirdo pseudo-libertarian. What you want is never going to happen so you might as well produce a white George Soros to protect you from the real Jewish Soros.

Who are your people, user? Because Europe is gone. America is gone…. Nation States are almost dead. Our blood is being mixed to extinction as we speak. Maybe it's time to put aside your shitty country and look at the bigger picture?

Stephen Hawking might be very intelligent and knowledgeable, but he cannot comprehend the power of memes

memes are something you understand by submerging yourself into them, namely, into imageboards, spending all that time on that lab of his does nothing to help him understand the power of MEME MAGIC, or the power of a race that cries for revival.

also he can't walk, what a fag.

I obviously was saying we need something of blood (race/species) without the central authority so it can spread further. Roman Catholics were never really that white in the first place.

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Is this correct?

Race origins and blood type

Interesting racial information and blood types


I believe that facts based in science, free from political influence, should always be the cornerstone of our racial lives. After all it is easy to disprove political propaganda with hard facts. However nothing should divide us as a people, we should accept the facts and remain together.

This information was gathered from the book ‘Eat Right for Your Type’ by a Dr. Peter J. D’Adamo with Catherine Whitney.


As you all already know there are 4 blood types in the world.


Type A, Type B, Type AB and Type O


This book claims that these different blood types originated and tailored themselves to meet the diets of the early branches of man. Asian, Caucasian and African.

Type A:

“The gene for Blood Type A emerged at a point in history when humans were evolving from hunter-gatherers and settling into more permanent agrarian communities. The Type A gene enabled your ancestors to survive and thrive on a vegetarian-based diet.”

Type B:

“ As Blood Type B, you carry the genetic imprint of your nomadic ancestors, who advanced the human race into uncharted territories. The Type B gene enabled your ancestors to survive and thrive at high elevations and in cold climates, with a balanced diet of meat, dairy, grains, and vegetables.”


Type AB:

“As Blood Type AB, you carry the genetic blend of your Type AB ancestors, incorporating the characteristics of both Type A and B. The Type AB gene, still only a 1,000 years old (2 to 5 percent of the population and biologically complex), enabled your ancestors to make the transition to modern times.”


Type O: (LOOK OUT!!!)

“As Blood Type O, you carry the genetic imprint of the very first humans, the Cro-Magnon hunter-gatherers. The Type O gene enabled your ancestors to survive and thrive on a high-protein, meat-based diet.”

“Although peoples of different races and cultures may share a blood type, they don’t always have the same frequency of the gene. For example, a Type A person may be AA, meaning both parents passed on the A gene, or AO, meaning only one parent passed on the A gene. Overall, people of African ancestry tend to carry the O gene more frequently than people of Caucasian and Asian ancestry.”

“The gene for Blood Type O developed in Africa, and your ancestors were the original Type O’s”

That user confused me. I know nothing about blood types/

How so? Before the retarded idea of spreading the religion to shit skin colonies, etc.

I think Hawkings uses mathmatic symbols to impress normies while just regurgitating particular failed Greek philosophies. Like most Baby Boomers he's a drone

Because the faith was Shitskins, even far Eastern and African shitskins before it was Western European. The Catholics in particular just unified the different shitskin off-shoots under Roman rule

Pseudo-libertarian because I want to kick every globalist influence the fuck out and make sure any variation of it stay out at the same time as any vermin they imported since they took control, are you retarded?


Temporary association to get rid of the globalist element isn't out of the question for me but once we get rid of every single one of them I don't want simply another group to take its place. Weirdly enough people here managed to make an identity until around 2001 when everyone got fucked at the same time when the Saudi-Israeli-Amerikike coalition did 9/11. Replacing a Jewish ruler for an American ruler is pretty much trading a dick in the ass for a dildo of the same size in the ass, I guess at least the dildo doesn't come with herpes.

Mein neger, every time they find out what type my blood is, they ask me to donate. My blood is in very high demand.

I just lost all respect for stephen hawcuck.
he should stick to physics.

So, according to this, A would be Europeans, B mongolians and proto kikes, AB modern kikes and eastern europeans who had contact with mongols (IE finns and russians) and O would be related to niggers?

it's in high demand precisely because it's rare, which means other people with the same blood type don't have easy access to it, not because it has special powers.

but w40k is a theocratic state

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Ask the >>>>/asatru/ guys for help

FTFY

Put a kike muppet like Trump on top of it. It will surely save white race.

Spooky. This must be that slave mentality nietzsche was talking about.

I got it from stormfront. Don't put too much into it…. But O would be most everyone

go away leftypol

No this was…

Well, they Kikes are correct in the sense that the world is "smaller" because travel is going to be so efficient and fast once we burn their oil harboring desert rats to the ground… So you really won't survive the war against Globalism… Either the race dies or Nationalism dies, it's one or the other and in the end you will just end up with Brown Nationalism = India vs. Pakis level shit holes

What is this bullshit? We don't want to preserve our race for the sake of the planet, we want to preserve our race for the sake of our people. That image just reeks of white man's burden, and it's completely cringeworthy.

>>>/oven/

It's related to the second image… If the white race goes, then primitivism follows… And if they Planet of the Apes doesnt nuke each other or kill the oceans or some shit, an astroid will hit it and there will be no advanced white race their to redirect the thing and protect the planet.

If we go back to a primitive state, in all likelihood that will be the end of everything… it may die in 1000 or 5000yrs but it will die without the gods of the earth.

Or even 5million… but it will die

Not necessarily, so to speak, if we take all the DNA and start a new planet like in Titan AE. They'll also talked about being able to shift the Earth's trajectory in order to give us like 10 million more years or something like that as the Sun goes supernova

Whites will be killed off before that can happen.

because we're broke

bump4interest

Don't go full 14/88 OP, please, it's fuckin' gay

Shut up Jew. Holla Forums would make Hitler blush

Read them… Didn't do much for me

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I forget, but what are the other examples of patterned narratives?

1. people have needs.
many religious texts i've noticed start off with "you're lost, you're looking for answers, you're looking for meaning, belonging, truth, solace, etc"
tap into existential vulnerabilities, throw in some emotive and sensible poems or stories, and you're a religion now.

1a people learn through stories.
not through graphs, statistics or numbers.

1b. knowledge is reaffirmed or contradicted by observable patterns.
unfortunately fiction, news sources and politicians aren't known to represent reality as is.

2. basic biology
humans are social animals.
social animals have groups.
in-group preferences are critical to survival.

3. basic philosophy.
life exists to live. ( survive, reproduce, care for family )
all that contradicts or threaten survival, reproduction or family is undesirable.

3a. for social animals, it is in the interest of an individual to be a part of the group.
duty is to yourself, and when the greater group is in your interest, servitude unto another can be self-serving for all in the group.

fuck i'm hungry now

You know, as funny as it is, I believe Warhammer 40k has nailed it.

this is going to sound spergy as fuck but I agree
the whole imperial cult around the god-emperor is one of the coolest fictional religions ive ever read about, to the point it made me want to join it at one point

but the thing you need to realize, warhammer is based on reality, specifically european history and values. 40k is basically that hypercharged to 40,000

have to say though, dont think any religion in real life came up with a quote as based as "An open mind to any ideal is like a fortress with its gates unbarred and unguarded"

I don't remember this scene from 300. Though its been like a fucking decade since I saw it (in theaters when it came out) maybe I just forgot.

Problem is that the imperial cult is a degenerate parody of the emperors ideals.
His dream for a race of supermen unachieved and now openly rejected.

Finally a real response

Thank you, user!

I dont want to play video games to know what that means

You can't rise in the ranks of those kinds of institutions without leaders obtaining the means to blackmail you into submission. They will not let you rise until they have a way to blackmail you.

Thanks, FBI. You've put in your five minutes of daily work now, you can retire and go full welfare-queen.

what?

This. The Emperor's dream was shattered by the Horus Heresy, which is just degeneracy taking place. The Emperor preched the Imperial Truth, which is basically evolution and science. And under his near-godly will it was possible. This is what we need. A strong leader to guide us, a leader who will always do the right thing, a leader on whom a whole humanity can count on. Men can fail, whether they re bickering about opinions, or fighting for power. We need a final instance to whom to turn to. We, more then ever, need Der Fuehrer. And, I believe, any of us can become him

Is this Alt'right comedy? Go back to Jewtube and shill your crap. This is Holla Forums. You don't belong here, and you don't have the talent or creativity to meme it otherwise

This is one of the most autistic things I've seen on this board.

Dude, fucking explain this shit dont just go full nerd loser on us.

Its theoretically possible that my post sounded half as retarded as what you just shit onto your cum-slathered keyboard, so I'll be off to drink a gallon of bleach.

period

I'm saying, that we need to create a man who will take responsbility for a whole nation, and make him as smart and logical as possible. And with unbreakable will and immunity to lies. Because when there is more than 1 man, there will always be conflict

We can't create people, user. Unless you have a lab and can do super science. I'll be your security guard that gets killed in the beginning I guess…

What is red-pilling, giving evidence of jew control, Holla Forums library, learning propaganda, supporting traditional values, organising, teaching skills, working out. This is what i meaan, when i say create.

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Then we need to spread it and control 8ch because right now it's fucked and no one even uses facebook. Being an user in the real world with cowardly and worthless in some respects.

FBI wants you to stay in the shadows not come out and put on a suit unless you're a fucking shill or retard like Alex Jones or Jared Taylor.

FUCKJ!!!!!!!!!!!!!

cowardly and worthless in some respects:

We need to develop a cult of self-improvement, culturally if not religiously. If every Holla Forumslack strove to improve himself constantly, and strive towards making a difference for our people- we'd have 3000 leaders around the world- and if this value of self-improvement spreads among the right wing community? Good times ahead, friend.

I use to think that too. But I don't anymore. Look at the guy in your vid post. He's wrestling snakes. Not because we went to the gym to do it, but because he has too.

We need to create an archetype for Blood Faith….. And let the chips fall where they may. Self-improvement is anti-masturbation and healthy living in a world that is being fucked to death by foreign hordes. It may have been important in the 1990s to stay away from depression, but we are at the end game period here.
We need more than breeding and superior ethics. We need to fanatical behavior to Trump the Jews and Islam… Rap music, drug abuse, Mexican invasions and Bisexual anti-male movments were a socially engineered attack but NOTHING compared to what is happening now.

Honestly, Holla Forums is about 5-years behind the times at this point and that's why the media has already co-opted us with the AltRight… We need to step up our game here.


Social Biology and Geneism is the future of the movement! Not anime posts on twitter

Jesus get off the notorious penis before i squeeze and bust

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nice cancer thread faggot

you wanna roleplay go ahead and role-play, all your anonymous dictums have less value than the shit leaking from a NEETs anus as he shops a trump hat on princess mononoke

I'm suppose to listen to you?

meme magic
kek
black sun
banecrash

Of that were esoterics… No one would of done it genius. Those are things to piss people off.. and synchronicity. Esoterics is a Christian meme like "Pagan"…. It just means goy and is unattractive to sane people.

*none of that was esoterics

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Holla Forums?

Actual Satanist of the dead jew variety (LaVey) here.

While your premise is interesting OP there are a few flaws with it.

Firstly, even though Satanism is itself not completely terrible when it is followed as intended, it tends to attract a certain undesirable crowd. Scale that up and inevitably you are going to get faggots and weirdos who turn the whole thing into a nightmare. Every religion has its wackos who take things too far or have bizarre interpretations and Satanism is no exception.

Secondly and most importantly you have confused cause and effect. Religion/ideology (or prime guiding belief if you prefer) does not by itself gain a foothold or popularity based on its own merits. Communism, Christianity, and Islam did not come to power solely because everyone thought they were such great fucking ideas. Rather, strongmen such as that one Roman emperor (in the case of Christianity), the warlord Mohamed (in the case of Islam), and Lenin (or whoever in the case of Communism) used human force and influence to foist their prime belief system onto the masses. Only then does it catch on in earnest and become a self-sustaining force that can grow on its own.

So to answer your question. It is literally as simple as this.

With enough power and influence you can force whatever belief system you want on the masses. Sure it might be a bit harder in this age because we now have some very entrenched beliefs with long histories, but even they could be replaced with sufficient force and influence.

The Nazis came close to doing so with their ideology and they were in fact even tried for attempting to 'destroy' Christianity by the allies kangaroo court.

A more successful example can be seen in the commies who despite all odds actually did succeed in overtaking religion as the dominant force in the soviet union. Giving proof to my previous statement that even old and entrenched beliefs can be replaced.

Hmmm

1. Satanism attracted that type because of they created a culture to do so. Look at the old interviews of Levey in his cape acting like someone Elvira would make fun of. They were designed to destroy Nietzsche's philosophy, like NeoNazis were deigned to destroy Hitlers'


2. I disagree with the "No one can make a difference but the collective and its reps" theology, It's a Marxist outlook.
Greatness is born in the shadows, with a pen… not from some guy like Lenin who was a second generation anarchist, a terrorist, paid off by big bankers before he EVER became a "big boss"…
This outlook was taught to us by Marxists (critical theory) in school. No, it's ONE man who makes a difference and those men are usually poor at the start with no connections… Moses Hess created Marx/Lenin/Stalin…. Not the other way around.


Point being:
You are correct that "influence" (cash) can create the largest movements, but like Hitler, we need the archetypes…. Hitler was missing a total system…. He was missing the "religion" so to speak.

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1. I understand where you are coming from but LaVey also spoke out numerous times against the people who made Satanism their entire life and generally took things too seriously.

2. For your purposes doing things by force is your best bet.

Sure you need people who create the underpinnings and manifestos for ideology (as you pointed out) but even in those cases they were only flung into the spotlight through force. If someone else had written something that the strongmen had agreed with more, they would have used that system instead. Ideas and ideologies are a dime a dozen. It is by human action and power that determine how much they catch on.

Hitler was not missing a total system so much as he was missing the time to fully implement his equivalent to a religion. Scheduling Hitler Youth activities on Sunday so they would conflict with church attendance and so forth.

You can create an archetype sure, but unless you have a strongman (or group) who will pick up and promote/force the idea, it is relatively pointless. Unless of course you think you can find the next Hitler/Lenin/Mohamed on Holla Forums.

Also some light reading for your entertainment and perhaps an example of an ideology without a strongman to promote it.

ordonoctiseternae.tripod.com/index.html

satanism is just edgy atheism

It's right before the battle of Marathon m8

There's more than just Laveyan stuff, and even within the Laveyan stuff, there's different degrees of hat tipping.

What is it with Satanists and shitty Yahoo groups?
No where else to have a forum. And Yahoo demands a phone number to sign up.

meh… Maybe. But your entire ideology comes from Nietzsche and he died with nobody knowing him.

I think ideologies are a dime a dozen like novels and movies and songs and philosophies…. but once is awhile…
Being a Satanist you should understand the will to power and the individual can change the world, or an individual ideal. Fanaticism comes from a spark. But again, you're correct. It needs money and time and influence.

I don't know if strong men exist… I think they are created by the ideology.

No I think he was missing a total system. He was prepping for war. The Jewish version of National Socialism is more of a religion than National Socialism ever was. And after 1945… a lot of losers came out and were allowed to publish books on "aranism " like Savi Dali and Evola and the like to demonize the purity of their movement with esoteric complication that in the end muddies the waters. Hence the shill threads on Holla Forums "esoteric hitlerism"


Hmmm, you never know where the meme will flow.


Strong men are really more of a Marxist meme… No one is strong and power is a shadow on the wall.


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Just internet wankers similar to White Nationalism.
Nothing in real life.

I'm pretty sure white nationalism/fashy movements have a much larger real life presence than satanism

agreed

Wow what an insightful comment.

What other kernels of wisdom can you offer me, venerable sage?

Is Christianity just proto-communism?


Chicken and egg so to speak.


Hence why I espouse the idea that it is the rare breed of the "strongman" who forces his will upon the masses.


A good microcosm for how the world at large works. The king can be seen to represent the statesmen and the leaders of the world (nationalism and/or patriotism if you prefer), likewise with the priest (religion) and the rich man (influence of the scarcity of resources/the promise of resources). The sell-sword being the equivalent of military might. The sell-sword himself however is not without flaw. Because by himself he has no will, no direction. He needs choose between worldly riches, loyalty to state, or faith in religion. Because it is these things that give him meaning and purpose. Their relationship is symbiotic and each feeds off of and into the next.

I have perhaps oversimplified my own stance because obviously in the real world there are always a great multitude of factors that are in play which dictate the course of history and the ability of people to take power. But in general movements and ideologies need a poster-boy for people to get behind. Someone to hold up as the ideal to strive towards.

One of those things that is hardwired into the human mind.


You'd be surprised. Most true satanists don't go out of their way to advertise their beliefs. I myself only reluctantly bring it up if it is directly relevant to a thread.

Explain to me satanism, then. It just comes across as incredibly narcissistic bullshit for people who desperately want to be edgy and stand out.

How is it chicken and egg? Come on man, I explained it clearly. The Strong Man is a Marxist ((critical theory)) meme like racism (anti-hierarchy)

Look, a hero wont save us. And Jesus never existed. He was created. It's a meme…. By artists..

Jesus christ OP, you may as well start namefagging and tripfagging for how much attention whoring you're doing.

No you nigger its the battle of Platea.
Battle of marathon was about 20 years before and was between greece and Darius of persia. In the battle of Platea its Darius's son, Xerxes

It's not attention whoring you're just talking. You fucking angry mudblood kike.

It's best to read "Satan Speaks" for insight into where he was coming from and what his real life thoughts where and then "The Satanic Bible" if you are still interested and haven't rejected what he's about. See if you can find somewhere to download a free pdf of them. Anton is dead so he hardly needs the money anymore.

You are not incorrect though. There are many who just use it for shock value and make their whole lives revolve around it, which is ironically not something LaVey recommended (see Satan Speaks).

I mean strongman in the Anthropological sense, a person among the tribe who wields great power through his prestige and system of alliances but who cannot by himself compel anyone to follow him (i.e. "do what I say or I will personally kill you by myself").

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_man_(anthropology)

I am not very familiar with critical theory.


Jesus may or may not have existed. But the Roman emperor who brought Christianity to prominence did (Constantine?).

It is chicken and egg in the sense that both need each other in order for the other to exist/flourish. It was my way of saying that going on about which leads to which is a dead end and rather pointless line of thought.

A strongman without a prime belief system to lead the masses can only hope to enjoy a short reign and be forgotten by history. A prime belief system without a strongman (or perhaps champion would be a better term) can only hope to languish in obscurity with a small cabal of followers.