Sooo true

Childhood is when you don't get mistaken for a man.

Adulthood is when you do.

well…… you could say that batman is the unthinking defense of the status quo and that joker is the unthinking demolition of the status quo.
but after joker you're just left with chaos which strong, organized men will reforge into a new form of order.

so… league of shadows ftw.