Disavow antifa?

Jace Ramirez
Jace Ramirez

Are antifa useful and a means for promoting social change, or have they devolved into simpleminded anarchist agitators that cause public harm and damage the people's goods, and basically annoy everyone on every side of the political spectrum?

Antifa is short for the German phrase, “Antifaschistische Aktion,” Antifa served as the paramilitary arm of the German Communist Party (KPD), which the Soviet Union funded.

The KPD made no secret of Antifa’s affiliation. A 1932 photo of KPD headquarters in Berlin prominently displayed the double-flagged Antifa emblem among other Communist symbols and slogans.

Today’s Antifa embrace those roots. During February’s protest in Berkeley, masked Antifa agitators caused nearly $100,000 in damage by starting fires, breaking windows, assaulting bystanders with pepper spray and flagpoles, painting graffiti on nearby businesses, and destroying automatic teller machines. “Refuse Fascism,” the group organizing Saturday’s protests, is controlled by the Revolutionary Communist Party USA, which seeks to create a Marxist United States through violent revolution.

This is negative association, not positive. Or should the public be scared and annoyed on purpose?

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Logan Kelly
Logan Kelly

I am sick of you fucking retards coming here with this concern trolling. At this point I think opposing Antifa should warrant a ban. They drove reactionaries like Richard Spencer away from our impressionable youth and humiliated the neonazis completely. Now the far right is too scared to hold public demonstrations in America anymore, because they know Antifascists will push their shit in. This is a great achievement.
This is negative association
Fuck off. Only a Nazi or someone who views the world through a reactionary lens says this.

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Noah Edwards
Noah Edwards

Antifa agitators caused nearly $100,000 in damage
Oh no, as anti-capitalists we have a huge problem with this

which seeks to create a Marxist United States through violent revolution.
We would never endorse such a thing

Jacob Howard
Jacob Howard

Nowadays I personally don't give a fuck what antifa does. I like how they rile up and bully nazis and the aut right and after doing that autists don't come on school campuses screeching about their right to commit genocide against "onwhite" people.
I don't understand if you care more about dumbass windows being broken instead of people dying to autistic nazi rallys and being shot up in public. I don't mind anarchist orgs and shit helping people plant gardens or fix crumbling infrasctures or running food banks because it helps everyone. I don't think anyone would be against that would be autistic "anti-collectivists" whatever that means
The public does what it'll do, personally I don't care for most "popular opinions".
It's all a spectacle.

Ryder Gray
Ryder Gray

Fuck off. Only a Nazi or someone who views the world through a reactionary lens says this.
No, it is defiantly a negative. Reactionary dickheads take advantage of antifa beating the shit out of nazis to say "antifa are the real fascists" which gives stupid people the impression that the (legit) fascists are actually just misunderstood conservatives. The positive aspects are being warped into negative aspects by people like Spencer to misinform the gullible public.
It's a lose-lose situation.

Robert Miller
Robert Miller

doesn't care about the people or the people's property
calls himself a ☭TANKIE☭
confused much
richard spencer was always a joke among the right, similar to milo yianopolous or jordan peterson, useful idiots for minor issues, they made fools of themselves because they have so many holes in their character and ideology

Nowadays I personally don't give a fuck what antifa does
me neither, specially how they hide their faces, it makes them look like the bad guys

Jordan Jenkins
Jordan Jenkins

antifa are the real fascists
Go outside you imbecile. No one fucking believes this- especially when it comes from the mouths of these people. I am certain you are a /pol/shit concern troll now.

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Nicholas Garcia
Nicholas Garcia

No, it is defiantly a negative.
You are wrong.

David Richardson
David Richardson

useless smashies who make me want to call myself a "social minarchist" instead of anarchist.
would rather oppose spectacle-``facism'' than the capitalism they live in.
may possibly oppose a little or encourage it a little regarding them busting up small businesses windows depending on the city and the neighborhood, and prior context.
dont care about knocking over trash cans. not that its any meaningfull or even symbolic victory to break random shit it just doesnt affect much overall, hence 'useless smashies'
played out subject of thread. one downvote for OP. this subreddit has higher standards than this.

Justin Baker
Justin Baker

I can just imagine you phoneposting from your #Marchforourlives rally.

Nolan Cook
Nolan Cook

I can just imagine you wishing that was an argument.

Luke Lee
Luke Lee

smashies are stupid, supreme praxis is doing nothing and talking about obscure marxist philosophers on an anonymous imageboard for conspiracy theories and child porn

Ayden Rodriguez
Ayden Rodriguez

I'm not OP you turbo-sperg. It's a common belief if you hang around the groups the alt-right has a hold on. I never said antifa was bad so I'm not sure why you think I'm a /pol/yp unless you're just confused and angry.

You sure convinced me, thanks fam.

Jonathan Hughes
Jonathan Hughes

webm
phoneposting
One day user.
I'm not sure why you think I'm a /pol/yp
It's a common belief if you hang around the groups the alt-right has a hold on

Kayden Bailey
Kayden Bailey

Can you go be a dumbasss liberal somewhere else?
If you don't know and don't want to know about the difference between private property and personal belongings shut up.
I don't care if Dick Spencer was a "joke" it's good to see all the dirty laundry and hypocrisy.
me neither, specially how they hide their faces, it makes them look like the bad guys
Hahaha please shut the fuck up

Levi Gutierrez
Levi Gutierrez

This is your mind on soros-bux.

Evan Rivera
Evan Rivera

groups the alt-right has a hold on
Hee hee hee ho ho ho, your own group doesn't count.

Luke Evans
Luke Evans

You sure convinced me
You're a dipshit. What would be the point in convincing you?

Zachary Gomez
Zachary Gomez

*expanding cosmic brain*
Nice retort.

Ryan Sullivan
Ryan Sullivan

Have you been to /v/? Any reddit board? Any place to discuss "geek culture" has a strong alt-right foothold, and unless you want to not talk about your hobbies you have to deal with it.

Benjamin Stewart
Benjamin Stewart

Whoops meant not

Kevin Miller
Kevin Miller

Smashies are fucking retarded and have 0 concept of actual political theory. They give actual leftists a bad name.
You are either a troll or are retarded.

Brandon Cook
Brandon Cook

Have you been to /v/?
Any reddit board?
"Geek culture"
Fuck off.

Luke Brooks
Luke Brooks

Autistic /v/ermin and redditors on the internet are actually important
This culture war shit is all stupid and a fucking spectacle.
This "geek culture" shit is all consumerist bullshit.
I bully people whenever they try "converting" me into aut right shit because it's all so pathetic.
I can certainly sympathize with people but not dumbfucks screeching about kekistani epic pay pay.

Henry Rivera
Henry Rivera

Smashies is leftists
Full stop, this conversation is over

Jackson Bailey
Jackson Bailey

"Actual leftists"
Learn to read.

Connor Diaz
Connor Diaz

Because nobody actually conflates antifa with being leftist right?

Caleb Cook
Caleb Cook

I'm agreeing you fucking retard.
'>>2448919
If you're a dumbfuck liberal then probably.

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Ayden Bailey
Ayden Bailey

Smashies are fucking retarded and have 0 concept of actual political theory
Ironically it is you that has no grasp of actual political theory if you think allowing reactionaries to recruit the youth is good praxis. People like pic related deserve nothing more than to be deplatformed and punched in the nose.

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Connor Stewart
Connor Stewart

stop liking what I don't like
no :^)

Autistic /v/ermin and redditors on the internet are actually important
I can certainly sympathize with people but not dumbfucks screeching about kekistani epic pay pay.
I never said they were important I said they were the ones pushing for the normalization of people like Spencer and other cryptofascist personalities.

This culture war shit is all stupid and a fucking spectacle.
What culture war? It's talking about videogames and socializing. Just because you learned a new word doesn't mean you have to apply it to everything hoping it'll stick.

I bully people whenever they try "converting" me into aut right shit because it's all so pathetic.
I'm sure you do

Jaxson Scott
Jaxson Scott

Richard Spencer and MILO are recruiting our youth!!!

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Bentley Wilson
Bentley Wilson

If you consider videogames to be a hobby and you admit to browsing 8/v/ and reddit, you deserve the aut right.

Ethan Gutierrez
Ethan Gutierrez

<nazis are cool as long as they do things that I don't like
drink bleach retard

Jayden Price
Jayden Price

Okay well autistic /v/ermin and redditors aren't ever gonna have that grasp.
What culture war?
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If you haven't noticed, autistic reactionaries push for imaginary karlture wars where being a tradishunalist/conservative makes people anti-establishment (it doesn't)

I will make fun of you too, don't think you're too safe
TL;DR fuck these consumerist cucks

Asher Martin
Asher Martin

NOBODY SAID THAT
BEGONE THOT

Jaxson Cook
Jaxson Cook

Milo is a joke. People only pay attention to him because of people like you who try to silence him. People with bad ideas should be allowed to speak so they can be publicly mocked.

Robert Miller
Robert Miller

What are you talking about?

Adam Murphy
Adam Murphy

you deserve the alt-right in your hobby and shouldn't do anything about it because you like hobby
how else can that be interpreted?

Kevin Fisher
Kevin Fisher

silence him.
Hee hee hee ho ho ho
People with bad ideas should be allowed to speak so they can be publicly mocked.
That already happens. Milo doesn't have to talk in order to mock himself. I wonder how shilling Misinfo Wars soy vitamins is going for him ;D

Nolan Bell
Nolan Bell

see

Jordan Walker
Jordan Walker

If you consider videogames to be a hobby and you admit to browsing 8/v/ and reddit, you deserve the aut right.

Sebastian Ramirez
Sebastian Ramirez

You admit to going to aut-right hives and you complain about seeing too many aut-right opinions.
Maybe you should get a less shitty hobby or head over to neogaf

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Kayden Lee
Kayden Lee

You could try arguing against these tards and reporting but I don't know how useless hotpockets are

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Luke Wood
Luke Wood

alt-right hives
except it's a loud minority who're pushing their shit on lukewarm impressionable people who don't tell them to fuck off.

Maybe you should get a less shitty hobby or head over to neogaf
nou. Stop pretending to be a big wrinklebrain, it's not working.

Ian Roberts
Ian Roberts

You know /v/ is one of the boards that uses ID's right? You can block all the posts from particular users if you find them objectionable.

Josiah James
Josiah James

Thanks for the tip kind stranger xD I'm still new here and dunno how this whole thing works! mayhaps you have any other…how do you say…"pro tips" for a confused newbie like me :) ?

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Brandon Collins
Brandon Collins

Upvoted

Jaxson Hughes
Jaxson Hughes

wow nice thread

Andrew Martinez
Andrew Martinez

defending a terrorist organization that literally tarnishes the left-wing's public image and reputation

the absolute state of Holla Forums

Why am i not surprised?

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Sebastian Young
Sebastian Young

Go back to reddit

James Diaz
James Diaz

being an optics cuck
hurr might as well just stay on the Internet

Adrian Green
Adrian Green

This.

<Muh property

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Connor Rogers
Connor Rogers

"Anti-fascism" is a pointless term and organizational praxis that only means to allow liberals and lifestylists into actual movements due to the wide political umbrella the term creates and turn them into popular fronts rather then united ones. By declaring oneself a socialist, a person should already be making it clear that they are against all forms of capitalism including Fascism. The only reason one would need to define themselves as "anti-fascist" or join an antifa organization would be if they themselves either do not find themselves to be socialist or if they believe that the current status quo of liberalism is worth defending as if the actions committed by it are any less attrocious. Fascism is an occurrence of capitalism where the inner mechanisms which were held hidden elsewhere in liberalism are brought out into full force and assume a more direct, brutal, and clear form as to defend and perpetuate the continuation of capitalism. It is merely further capitalism and can only exist within it. If antifa organizations spent half their time actually planning meaningful seizures of property and coordinated attacks on actual key capitalist targets rather then smashing things which will get repaired by multi-million dollar international corporations a day later and pissing off the people in the town who don't get what is happening because the action was directionless, general, and unstated, then they might have been able to make actual headway in there goal of "defeating fascism".

Alexander Cook
Alexander Cook

Lmao whatever nerd

Have fun in your armchair