Everyone in the comments section supports it, and so does Richard Stallman in his autistic stallman.org website. So instead of organizing and revolting, 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧they🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧 want to distract you with assisted euthanasia by asserting that the problem is not the system, it's you.
< Netherlands VAT (regressive sales tax): 21% < National average price for 1-bedroom house/apartment: €260,000 < Still lacks universal health care < Underfunded, poorly designed, heavily crowded public transport < The beaches are muddy and polluted beyond belief < Dutch are so "tolerant" they will not care if someone falls in the canal
Not when it's sponsored and subsidized by the government, especially a capitalist one.
Daniel James
Still not as high as in Nordic countries.
The Dutch healthcare system is the best in Europe according to Euro Health Consumer Index.
Adrian Rivera
EHCI is a self-reported, and it doesn't take into account of individual cost and coverage. North Koreans can rate their leader highly, but it doesn't give an objective analysis.
Henry Robinson
Dutchie here, guess I could shed some light on the subject and other related stuff.
Euthanasia has somehow become a big political topic despite it being a small thing. It's kinda like in the USA where the only difference between democraps and recucklicans is minor issues like abortion (not that I'm not pro-abortion freedom lmao)
This user's correct.
Free tuition was abolished recently. For now the loans are somewhat affordable but I have no doubts that it'll skyrocket soon enough. It's how it's worked in other countries: it's freshly privatized and the rates are okay, but once it's been privatized they increase by like 10% each year
fuck if I know as far as I know we waste a lot on corporate subsidies and public-private partnershits which are a complete scam I don't even know how much the dutch state still owns, but there's a lot of contracting and public-private partnershits involved
VAT of 21% only applies to "luxury" goods (that is to say, most consumer goods), for essentials and books it's 6% and funnily enough, our neoliberal government wants to increase sales taxes (cause they know they're regressive) while the socialist party wants to reduce VAT so much for the low tax right
is that the only index you use? cause our healthcare is pretty expensive not america-tier, but expensive
Cameron Gonzalez
That’s Nederlands. I’m a dumb 🍔American 🍔, but you should know better
Apparently it happens sometimes when drunk people try to piss in it.
Gavin Johnson
Not anglo, but happenes to me every time. Once in Amsterdam and two in the hague
Blake Foster
why lol
Logan Davis
Drunk in the hague, got pranked the second time because I cockblocked a friend, third time was for the sake of tradition. I learned not to piss in the canal
Brayden Long
Even if she didn’t have cancer or something she was still suffering, why should she be forced to stay and suffer? Tbh i think “i feel like” it should be a valid reason to request doctor assisted suicide.
Angel Sanchez
Some people actually drown though because of the drugs and alcohol or an unfortunate fall that renders them unconscious.
Anthony Thompson
Or maybe they should try to cure her first. You know.
Yeah I've read about it, the first time it happen to it was scary as fuck. The water was cold as fuck too.
Okay so they try to cure her nothing helps enough, for her to have any good quailty of life, should she suffer because muh suicide is bad
Zachary Brown
How long until man euthanized because of no gf
Parker Cruz
WTF? Context?
Easton Gomez
Friends of legislators
Charles James
no one is inherently arguing this. the argument is that suicide sponsored by the state destroys revolutionary potential. obviously, everyone has a right to suicide, but under a capitalist state, do you not see how this could be exploited by the state?
Julian Robinson
So what are people with terminal painful diseases supposed to do, just live a shitty life in a bed doing nothing for a few months until they finally croak? When euthanasia is illegal they can restrain and guard to you make sure you don't kill yourself or get someone to help you. How the fuck could anyone on this board be okay with the government forcing you to live to rack up debt for your family?
This "I'm going to bitch about literally everything, even if its good cuz liberals" shit Holla Forums has been doing lately is getting annoying.
i do. suicide is the most irrational decision one can make, it yields the most severe damage for a human being (death) and can't be reversed. therefore anyone who is opting for suicide must be insane i.e. mentally disabled, regardless of the severity of his other body condition(s). coma is always preferable over death, since the person is still alive, doesn't feel pain. yes, it costs money. so what. now, the "euthanasia" killer kills a person, which is negligent murder at the very best and must be punished by authorities accordingly. but euthanasia would "legalize" killing citizens. but what is the main purpose of joining a society or state? making it easier to keep alive. there is no point for individuals to feel obligated to obey legislation if legislation encourages killing citizens. what's more, all of you should be aware that this "euthanasia" the dutch just introduced will in the future be used to not only get rid of ill people, but also get rid of other "undesirables", such as homeless and unemployed, as well. the dutch just broke the barrier for creating a whole new private industry that makes profit off of killing "undesirable" people. of course liberals support this, since liberals are even more disgusting than conservatives at times. now i'm not particularly religious, but here in germany at least the lutheran church was opposed to euthanasia last time i checked and i hope they will continue lobbying against this utter capitalist perversion.
Jason Bell
i do. suicide is the most irrational decision one can make, it yields the most severe damage for a human being (death) and can't be reversed. therefore anyone who is opting for suicide must be insane i.e. mentally disabled, regardless of the severity of his other body condition(s). coma is always preferable over death, since the person is still alive, doesn't feel pain. yes, it costs money. so what. now, the "euthanasia" killer kills a person, which is negligent murder at the very best and must be punished by authorities accordingly. but euthanasia would "legalize" killing citizens. but what is the main purpose of joining a society or state? it's to remain alive with the help of other people. so there is no point for individuals to feel obligated to obey legislation if legislation encourages killing citizens. what's more, all of you should be aware that this "euthanasia" the dutch just introduced will in the future be used to not only get rid of ill people, but also to get rid of other "undesirables", such as homeless and unemployed, as well. the dutch just broke the barrier for creating a whole new private industry that makes profit off of killing "undesirable" people.
of course liberals support this, since liberals are even more disgusting than conservatives at times. now i'm not particularly religious, but here in germany at least the lutheran church was opposed to euthanasia last time i checked and i hope they will continue lobbying against this utter capitalist perversion.
Alexander Ross
what sort of fucking government privatizes shit in the fucking 21st century? Just who the hell did you guy elect?
Colton Cook
no
Wyatt James
he wel aardig blijven he tis wel waar maart doet wel pijn
You might want to keep in mind that some phychiatric illnesses are not caused by muh capitalism, but actually by being fucking in the head. There are illnesses such as constantly feeling intense pain in your entire body, these are psychiatric illnesses too.
Not true ???. Only dumb englishmen and americans fall into the canals. If you visit our country you should know how to swim, we are litterally under water. Natural selection tbh, you wouldn't say this about people going to africa and getting killing trying to pet lions. What are we supposed to do? Fill all waterways and subsequently have 70% of our country flooded because they are neccecary to drainage? Or destroy our historic cities, play areas and skating rinks? All because some drunk english people cannot control themselves and might drown if they go out for a walk at 4 in the night, drunk and high as fuck?
Jaxon Diaz
Yeah, it happens when drunk people piss in the canals, they fall cause blood drains from your brain when you pee.
Gewoon normaal doen, he?
Austin Moore
The netherlands isnt republican american boogeyman land. We don't euthanize people just because, they have to be approved and have no other real options. They have tried to cure her, they couldn't, so she said she doesnt want to continue after years and years of trying.
>the problem is not the system, it's you. this is true though. if we deserved better, we would build better. we didn't, indeed we emphatically rejected it.
ah yes, let's privatize the means of death. actually, yes, let's do that. what better means of underscoring the farce into which reason has devolved? with normal healthcare there's a cost issue, but with this? just take out a loan and laugh all the way to the crematorium.
stupid and dumb post. wrong. also killing the unemployed doesn't make sense according to the logic of neoliberalism as it stands, since you purge the reserve army of labour.
William Collins
What the hell??
Ian Lewis
Euthanasia is a right.
Aaron Clark
Also this.
Tyler Nguyen
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Anthony Evans
This is beyond politics, if you really think this you are a piece of shit or a retard incapable of thinking through the implications of your ideas. Even if some depressed kids kill themselves through medical services instead of by themselves, you would seriously allow people with terminal illnesses to suffer for minutes, hours, days, weeks, months, or even years without an option to cease the pain? It's currently considered first degree murder to administer voluntary euthanasia, and many people who would want it are not in a position to kill themselves (often from being incapacitated physically). If you do not have the choice to end your own life you have no freedom.
You already have no freedom. What's another right stripped?
Step up your accelerationist game.
Brody Reed
Suicidal teenagers will find a way, and people dying slowly and painfully are fucking clearly not suited for soldiery.
Evan Ramirez
nice falseflag
Robert Morales
Yeah, it goes towards your stomach area cause pissing is quite intensive.
Kevin Fisher
death > life under capitalism. everyone dies > no more capitalism the diuretic is in motion you dumb fuck.
nothing is beyond politics and if i ever meet you i swear to god i'm going to make you eat a laptop battery. if they were bad people why not? people who use Holla Forums unironically deserve long term suffering as a reprisal for their long term tedium.
Forgot to add that there are protests all over France today because Macron wants to totally privatize railways.
Christopher Lopez
holy fucking shit seriously? Railways? IN FUCKING 2018??? I knew he was a piece of shit porky but my God, this is is just insane.
Bentley Gutierrez
I dunno if you live in the US, but railways are a big thing over in Europe. Privatization won't benefit anyone but the businessmen, though.
Lincoln Miller
I live in Europe, and like 75% of our railways are governemnt owned. I was jsut surprised because I thought Britain perfectly demostarted that railway privatization can be catastrophic.
Juan Evans
How hard would it be to emigrate into the netherlands, then apply for this? haha im just curious for laughs haha
Bonus points: can't even read a word of dutch.
Ayden Bell
It's the future they chose.
Nigga is you serious? Privatization has been the order of the day since neoliberalism started, and was cranked up to eleven after Yeltsin's coup. Without a red menace to contend with, Porky is slowly but steadily taking back every damn concession he gave to the proles. The European welfare States are being dismantled, not to mention the third world States.
