Trump is finally going to accomplish what no black neo-conservative socialist liberal communist ZOG Occupied Government...

Yes it is ==unironically== full of boomers

The age limit makes perfect sense honestly. The failson population is only going to increase. Young men should not have access to guns until they are 21. By that time they will be able to use alcohol to numb the pain of existence so mass shootings won't be as common.

I fear that they will start eroding gun rights rights are a spook btw slowly just like they eroded the 4th amendment over time. Trump will truly bring us to the police nanny state and both liberals and conservative will applaud Trump taking away muscle from the proletariat. All the freedumbs will be taken away because of muh children. Even though public schools are heavily policed anyways and will be even more so in the future.
Just end it all already

Now there's a 100% chance Trump will be impeached, and by his own Congress.

nah

It makes sense that they think somewhere like China is communist because they say they are. Trump can take away guys but he is not a communist because he says he's not.

Wouldn't be the first time

We need more guns.
Arm the workers, arm the unemployed, arm the unions, arm the bums! Weaponize the homeless as an hidden army!
And teach them! A tool is only as useful as the one who wields it.
More. Weapons.

This.
Organize the workers, hold meetings to teach them about socialism then take them to the range.

sorry, guns banned by liberal now lol

>"Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered; any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated, by force if necessary."

how about I pay you for the guns?

It's almost like he made it a goal to piss off everyone.

He truly is the troll president

or they could just lower the drink age to 16 like the sensible countries on this planet

What part of "any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated" wasn't clear?

what a waste of metal. bourgeois "art" belongs right in the fucking trash can

That's not going to work in burgerstan. Cars are pretty much required to get anywhere in most the country and most teenagers are fucking retarded already. The Feds took away money from states who refused to push it up to 21 from 18 and that was in the mid 90s. Lobbyists like MADD (mothers against drunk driving) would shit their pants if anyone even thought about lowering the drinking age.
See
youtube.com/watch?v=9S_HPhC5DMk

How will you prevent this unless you expect them to be purebred saints? Are you going to shoot them to pre-empt the surrender?

Oh I forgot this link as well
youtube.com/watch?v=EA-91_LoKIw
nb for dp

Tbh the only way to really fight this is to help build class consciousness for the general population.
For the segments of the proletariat that IdPol readily applies to, we can frame the right to bear arms as a way to prevent oppression, then go from there by unveiling the primary ways people are oppressed and exploited.
We absolutely must have the general image of arms to be tools of liberation and that money is so much paper when you've thrown away the only key to your shackles.

What?

msn.com/en-us/news/us/teacher-in-custody-after-reports-of-gunfire-at-georgia-high-school/ar-BBJHGpJ?OCID=ansmsnnews11

Why do I live in the world's most retarded country

I ask the same question everyday user. I'm honestly thinking about moving to Quebec

It's almost like Holla Forums are faggots who backpedal every single time Daddy fucks up.

Planning to move to Nuuk in all honesty. I got a Danish friend from my Succdem days who lives there

No.
Literally never.

This is one of the absolute most retarded pieces of gun nut trash that's spewed ad infinitum until people believe it.

Hitler actually reduced restrictions on guns, and encouraged guns. He wanted a militarized citizenry - the only people he disarmed were Jews and Commies, and that wasn't until 1938. For perspective, the Nuremberg Laws were passed in 1935.

I'm confused is Holla Forums for or against gun control? Everyone seems to be very divided on the topic. For me personally, I still want some guns, but can't we at least background checks so mentally ill people can't get a hold on them.

Against.

I'm against it although it is sort of funny to see Trump betray his own base. Tragically it won't matter because Democrats refuse to provide an alternative that is capable of winning that base to the left.

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Trump has always been principally an authoritarian candidate. It's what his actual policy proposals centered on - increased police militarization, banning travel based on religion (what he said the policy would do at the time - he only later tried to hide it behind the countries included), removing net neutrality, renewing expired Patriot Act provisions, going after the press even before they were full-on anti-him, pro-Stop-and-Frisk, etc.

Even during the campaign, he was maybe one of the more pro-gun control GOP candidates. The NRA endorsed him because the NRA are retards and they had to endorse someone. Not allowing people on the no-fly list to have guns? That was something Trump said. Various watchlists with thousands of names? Wouldn't that just tip off the guilty people?

Calling Trump's current position "banning the guns" is misleading, but his position isn't really surprising.

I want draconian gun control in the USA.
I want guns seized and destroyed.

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Most of leftypol is against.
I hold the position that 'gun control' is largely not a 'for' or 'against' issue. For me, it's the degree and approach + context.

I'm for what I'd consider moderate gun control, with some mental health background check reform - though I still worry about abuses of that. I also think that banning semi-automatic assault rifles is a good idea, though, but that's kind of stupid. At least limiting them further, however possible. The problem with that is trying to fight the state with fucking glocks, though. I mean, it would already be a bitch, but still.

do u kno wut a "poison pill" is u dumb chucklefuck

8/pol/ would be going mental but the mods delete the threads

no way. the volk should be armed. not sure how that meme got started

not sure if this is a legit quote but this is probably where it came from

It's not, and it isn't - at least, I don't believe it is the source of that notion. I've seen that fake quote around here a couple times this past week, but I've usually seen the claim that Hitler implemented "gun control" or "banned guns" postulated independently.

The social studies teacher who hit upon the idea of bringing a gun to school to terrorize people into opposing the armament of teachers was genius.

Teachers who oppose arming teachers should all bring guns to school and discharge them harmlessly! How else will we learn which teachers are willing to terrify students for political purposes?

Hey, it's above and beyond the call of duty. A sophisticated lesson in the use of fear for political purposes is the kind of thing social studies teachers OUGHT to do. Maybe then politics could become less fear-dominated in the long-run by teaching people to recognize when it's being used.

Besides, exploiting the fear of violence was always critical to leftism. Without the fear of getting shot by impoverished crazies with nothing to lose, why would rich people have ever let anything get in the way of their pointless socioeconomic dominance games?

This is just another lesson in that vein. The only sad part is that Trump might get the credit instead of the activist who got himself arrested making the point. Oh, and that the threat of poor people with functional armaments will go away under the club of state power, that's sad too.

Somehow I doubt the authenticity of a quote that has three blatant grammatical errors in it and no citation.

where have you been?

There's all manner of mental illnesses and disorders user. A child who simply hates school and dislikes being ordered could be diagnosed with one. A social outcast who actively attempts to avoid people could be diagnosed with one. Chances are, if those psychologists could sit you down, you'd have one. The capitalists would be quick to classify any manner of opposition as mentally ill.

I critically support the right of teachers to cull the student population within some reasonable quota.

wtf

pay the teachers more and this wont be a problem

We already have those

There better?

That's what the Mueller investigation is the opening for, establishing the open survelience state rather than the current secret one
As for guns, they'll probably keep working on cranking up the price of guns and ammo for now. Already it's fairly expensive to get into it, raise it a bit more and no one will be able to afford them

Yeah I've been wanting to buy a pistol and maybe an AR but that shits expensive, even going to a range and shooting a rental gun costs about $60 to $90 dollars here and I live in the deep South. A pistol can be anywhere from 200 to 500ish while an AR style rifle can run ya $700 plus. How do these mass shooters even afgord this shit? Family?

Why does this kind of thing surprise people? Obama deported more people and started more wars than Bush. Politicians are most suited to doing the opposite of their rhetoric when it comes to contentious issues because of the cognitive dissonance in their supporters and critics prevents effective resistance.

thats not fair, I'm mentally ill and I definitively want to shoot you

On a more serious note, it's been interesting seeing a lot of people on 8/k/ and 4/k/, as well as other gun forums, getting really upset over this. Guns in the US are kind of a dividing line - a surprising number of people are single issue voters with firearms rights being their primary concern. It's easy for them to demonize the democrats as 'gun grabbing devil worshipers tryin' to take our freedoms', but if the chief republican is saying things like 'take the guns first and worry about due process later', or 'by the way, bump stocks, we're writing that out. I'm writing that out myself. I don't care if congress does it or not', it really doesn't leave these single-issue voters anywhere to go. That is an interesting frustration to see manifest so quickly. I'm somewhat doubtful that we'd be able to pick many of these people up (they're more inclined towards being an-caps in my experience) but it does create a potential opportunity for the proper left to distinguish itself from liberals. It might open people's eyes to see actual leftists strongly opposing this move.

OH NO NO NO NO

God they really are boomers

lol

InB4 Liberals use this to paint Obama in an even more nauseating light than they do now.

Here I thought comment deletion on Holla Forums was bad

People will be more empty when Trump is gone than any other President.

He is more hated than any public figure in most people's lifetime. Hate is related to love.

The shittiest dickwad on Holla Forums isn't worthy to wear Trump's shoes.

EULOGY:

He had a lot to say.
He had a lot of nothing to say.
We'll miss him.

We're gonna miss him.

Yeah, so long.
We wish you well.
Told us how you weren't afraid to die.
Well, so long.
Don't cry, yeah,
Or feel too down.
Not all martyrs see divinity.
But at least you tried.

Standing above the crowd,
He had a voice that was strong and loud.
We'll miss him.
We'll miss him.
Ranting and pointing his finger
At everything but his heart.
We'll miss him.
We'll miss him.

We're gonna miss him.

Yeah, no way, yeah, to recall
What it was that you had said to me,
Like I care at all.

But it was so loud.
You sure could yell.
Took a stand on every little thing
And so loud.

Yeah, standing above the crowd,
He had a voice that was strong and loud and I
Swallowed his facade 'cause I'm so
Eager to identify with
Someone above the ground,
Someone who seemed to feel the same,
Someone prepared to lead the way, and
Someone who would die for me.

Will you? Will you now?
Would you die for me?
Don't you fucking lie.

Don't you step out of line.
Don't you step out of line.
Don't you step out of line.
Don't you fucking lie.

You claimed all this time that you would die for me.
Why then are you so surprised when you hear your own eulogy?

He had a lot to say.
He had a lot of nothing to say.

Come down.
Get off your fucking cross.
We need the fucking space to nail the next fool martyr.

To ascend you must die.
You must be crucified
For our sins and our lies.
Goodbye…

WAKE ME UP INSIDE (I CAN'T WAKE UP)

WAKE ME UP INSIDE (SAVE ME)

CALL MY NAME AND SAVE ME FROM THE DARK (WAKE ME UP)

"Oh boy I sure hope I don't want to kill myself to-"

I'm emptier when I shit a log, and I'm doing just fine.

I want every Trump cuck to sit down and think about their life ad they hand over all their rifles.

They're not going to think about their life if they lost a fucking leg.

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People say that to illustrate that popular disarmament is a precursor to genocide, totally disregarding the larger issue in order to fearmonger by connecting the setup for the Holocaust to the broader Nazi ideology without care for cause and effect.

tl;dr Hitler loosened gun restrictions, except on Jews, who he then got rid of. But retards just say 'Hitler took the guns and look what happened', making people think he took everyone's guns, because fuck nuance.

Just like almost every single "horrible" thing commies do, it's one, softer than what capitalists do, and two, more justified. :^)

Same Guy You're Replying To:

Don't get me wrong I'm 100% Socialist who constantly borders on being a ☭TANKIE☭

But, be careful of losing your hated enemies. They become something different in death then they were in life.

Having waged a propaganda war against Trumpist capitalism I respect him more in his downfall as a worthy adversary.

A warrior without a good adversary is an empty vestibule. What are batman and joker without each other?

I don't give a shit about this buffoon, you're not going to make me stop laughing

Holy shit, we don't live in a comic book universe.

HOW WILL ALEX JONES RESPOND

Never underestimate the value of a worthy adversary

Watch as libs start sucking his dick and even Chapo cheering this shit
WHY THE FUCK DOES ANYONE LEFT OF THE REPUBLICANS WANT TO DESTROY THE WORKING PEOPLE'S ABILITY TO PERFORM INSURECCTIONARY ACTION IN THIS COUNTRY?

Because America is the most liberal country in the world and its left bends over backwards to accommodate that fact.

No it's because Republicans are freaking the fuck out and it's hilarious as hell. This country is fucked either way, let me have a god damn laugh. I don't support it. I find it funny. Learn the difference.

Oh i think it's hilarious
But don't pretend democrats and rad libs don't unironically support this

HE TALKED ABOUT THE HEARING PROTECTING ACT AND THE NATIONAL CARRY ACT ANDI WAS ACTUALLY EXCITED BUT NOW WE HAVE START FIGURING OUT WHAT WE ARE GOING TO LOOSE

FUCK YOU
FUCK YOU
FUCK YOU
FUCK YOU
FUCK YOU

Chapo faggots are just another group of libs LARPing as socialists, that tells us how sad and irrelevant we are, and will get shot for it.

You miss my point..

You maybe sapient and rational, but many people aren't.

Enemies with well defined faces are good for the socialist cause. They produce solidarity, and losses to the enemy produce more determined socialists. The fear of him drives potential sympathists our way. I hate to say it but… Trump was good for the socialist movement. He is worth more to us temporarily in power than disgraced from power (at least during these hours of the movement).

Ya like you

Oh pipe down you whining rascal

Kinda sad to see how far /k/ has gone down the rabbit hole

Inb4 Trump is racist because he wants to take away guns and black people like to hold guns when they take their selfies for facebook.

Maybe you're right.. Maybe I'm not.. That being said my point stands.

The shadowy 1984-esque enemy after Trump may not be to our advantage. Maybe it will be the left wingers who supposedly caused Hillary to lose (even though bullshit it could play)? Maybe it will be terrorists, Russian trolls, Chinese manufacturers or communists?

Trump was like the WMD scare that convinced Americans to bomb Iraq.

Who or what will be the next WMD scare for Americans?

I'm going to laugh at you while I laugh at them.

Ivanka Trump.
Who will shatter the glass ceiling to become the first female president of the USA. Ushering in an age of true equality.

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He did agree with the idea of disarming "subject races" to dominate them. Exactly what the US government wants to do right now, but for the purpose of subjecting the working class (because, as we know on here, the history of all hitherto existing society is the history of class struggles, and race is SJW shit)

Finally a fucking strategist!

I try to get fellow ☭TANKIE☭s and left wingers to strategize, but often they're terrible at anticipating people's behavior during crisis and major events.

Thinking they have a huge I.Q. and advanced intellect they ignore likely behaviors of the populace.

Worse then that, they consider taking advantage of crisis and major events below them. This allows other political parties to exploit the unfolding events. I disagree with fascist dialectics, but respect their superiority in coherently utilizing crisis, human behavior and rage.

That being said Ivanka won't be the next scare. Leftists will continue to backlash against Pence. Evangelicals will lose patience, and Dems will SILENTLY settle an old score.

Leftists could be the next WMD scare

The updated version is much better.

Much appreciated user. Been thinking about buying a pistol soon

UNDER NO PRETEXT

Even in death, the USSR protects.

This is one thing that makes me nervous. I was diagnosed with General Anxiety maybe 2 years ago, I assure you I don't have any violent tendencies, but with this sort of legislation I might have a hard time just trying to buy a hunting rifle. I'm certain I'm not a unique case.
This also just seems to carry on America's disdain for the mentally ill. The idea is to just further reduce the rights and privileges of those labelled rather than actually increasing care.

Remember when slaves who ran away from their plantations were classified as mentally ill?

You are correct that Nazi gun laws weren't nearly as strict as American conservatives claim they were. That said, I would never ever support any state control over guns, especially no ideological nor ethnic tests. Either everyone can own a type of weapon, incuding convicted citizens, or no one, not even states can own that weapon type.

If you have less than 2 friends you shouldn't be able to buy guns. Any other regulations would be unnecessary if we did this.

Make training certifications mandatory, though.

And militarize the schools.

what would be the official state measurement of friends? I wonder if the license-giving inspectors would discriminate against teens trench coats and fingerless gloves.

Whoa there! Not every one who wears trench coates and fingerless gloves are murder-suicidal neckbeards. When you think about it trench coates covers large parts of your body and are thus suitable for very cold days, and fingerelss cloves are convenient if you want to protect your hand but need the sensitivity of your fingers. Not that neckbeards stuck in their basements would apreciate any of that considering they JUST like the looks and are as superficial as the Valley girls they hate.

Trenchcoats are also good for good-old fashion voyeurism.

More relevant than ever

Can't believe I wrote "coates"!

And you can hide a Light Machine Gun inside as well. pic related

why does anyone even give any attention to his ramblings? he talked about everyone having healthcare during the campaign and then pushed a retarded bill that would do the opposite. same thing is gonna happen here, they'll let the dementia patient run his mouth on tv while they craft a law that's gonna put bulletproof chambers into classrooms or some shit like that. it's literally NOTHING.

You poor fuck, what do you think is going to happen after people doesn't have guns? I remember CIA saying they expect far right/far left groups to operate in the future due to increasing poverty in some of his multiple public declarations, so.. Get ready for more Gov use of strengh