Jesus was a Socialist

Why is Christian Socialism not a bigger thing? I've heard it's an opiate for the normiez. But, the more I dig into scripture about early Christian economic systems the more I'm lead to believe it was a Roman socialist movement. They didn't have a word for socialism back then so of course it's not explicitly invoked in scripture.

I know the parts written after Jesus are hardcore capitalist, but those are mostly attributable to Paul. Paul was a moneylending statist who killed Christians before converting.

It sounds likely to me that Paul was a temple trojan horse.

Should we actively avoid encouraging evangelicals to consider Christian socialism? Or should we encourage evangelicals to be more socialist? Thoughts?

Here is a scripture on the communal living of early Christians.

Acts 4:
32 And the multitude of them that believed were of one heart and of one soul: neither said any of them that ought of the things which he possessed was his own; but they had all things common.
33 And with great power gave the apostles witness of the resurrection of the Lord Jesus: and great grace was upon them all.
34 Neither was there any among them that lacked: for as many as were possessors of lands or houses sold them, and brought the prices of the things that were sold,
35 And laid them down at the apostles’ feet: and distribution was made unto every man according as he had need.

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Religion is inherently anti-materialist and incompatible with communism

because christianity contradicts the materialist philosophy of scientific socialism. socialist parties organized unscientifically could achieve nothing higher than utopianism like the failed projects of Owen and Fourier.

Unlike all the successful projects of the realists /S

Its not rational. It is too easy to use to make people do terrible things.

It has been hijacked many times in the past to push for genocide because off "god's will".

What about the Red Terror?

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These are all thought provoking answers that make me think twice.

Isn't a society without religion generations away? Wouldn't suppression of religion martyr them? Would tolerating religion while maintaining your stance and educating the public of cult behavior knock out two birds by deprogramming political and religious hysteria?

Im an atheist i dont want anything to do with these guys.

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Look up how the Hutterites, Amish, or similar sects operate if you want to see Christian socialism
hutterites.org/
Amish don't have a website, sorry

Also Saul became Paul changing his ways.
The whole Paul messed things up originally stems from an Islamic viewpoint

It's infinitely far away depending on how one defines "religion". There has never been a human society and never will be a human society without some systems of belief that could be classified as religious thought, even if it is subtle and integrated. You should read Joseph Campbell if you're interested in the nature of religion.

Yes, but that really only matters if you're either going to stop oppressing them at some point or there's another group who will ride to the rescue or who will be displeased when you can't afford them to be. You have to remember that when you persecute someone, your persecution can be interpreted as being based on any of the qualities of the persecuted group and not necessarily upon your stated or privately-held motives.

No, and it runs a substantial risk of backfiring.

I despise this "Jesus preached communism" meme. Sorry but "give up all your possessions and join an apocalyptic messianic cult" is not actually socialism.


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Eh you'd be surprised, one of the major things about chrisoc is that it tends to be more of a secondary thing to their primary beliefs. Like for example, Morales is Chrisoc, but most people just don't see him as specifically that.
No, we should be encouraging catholics not the faith, the stance towards Chrisoc.
Also the Diggers did nothing wrong.

Christianity was more SocDem than socialist (thought calling it either is ridiculous) less you think socialism is when the government gives poor people free shit.

All religion also acts as a drug, and is anti-materialist. Religion needs to fuck off as it only works to surpress the people.

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Capitalism didn't even exist when Paul was alive how the eff did you draw the conclusion that Paul was a capitalist? Smh

All bourgeois propaganda my friend.

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There's only like three of us and one of us is a raging ☭TANKIE☭ who quite frankly scares me and who I would not want running anything, let alone a revolution

Somebody tell the Jews communism doesn't work if the system is setup to benefit one tribe…

This quote only sounds conspiratorial until you read the actual passage it's in.

From:

Now, indeed, this is the historic destiny of the Jews, but not in the sense of Hitler and the nazis. With Jesus, who only symbolizes the Jews, the Jews say: Our kingdom is not of this world. The Jews will become the masters over the whole earth and they will subordinate to themselves all nations, not by material power, not by brute force, but by light, knowledge, understanding, humanity, peace, justice and progress. Judaism is communism, internationalism, the universal brotherhood of man, the emancipation of the working class and the human society. It is with these spiritual weapons that the Jews will conquer the world and the human race. The races and the nations will cheerfully submit to the spiritual power of Judaism, and all will become Jews. And it shall come to pass in the end of days that the mountain of Jehovah's house shall be established as the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills; and all nations shall flow unto it, and many peoples shall go and say: Come ye, and let us go up to the top of the mountain of Jehovah, to the house of the God of Jacob; and He will teach us of His ways, and we will walk in His paths. For out of Zion shall go forth the Torah, and the word of Jehovah from Jerusalem. And He shall judge between the nations, and shall decide for many peoples; and they shall beat their swords into plowshares and their spears into pruning-hooks; Nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more.

They shall not hurt nor destroy in all My holy mountain, for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of Jehovah, as the waters cover the sea.—ISAIAH.

This is the kingdom of the Jews, of all Jews, no matter what be their race, color and blood. Even the nazis will become Jews, and they, too, will rejoice in Jehovah. This is the predetermined destiny of mankind, of all mankind, without exception, and this destiny was predetermined by God.

So he's actually referring to the Bible. And it's a universal vision so when he says the Jews will """conquer""" he means everyone will become a jew. Hilariously enough he thinks even Nazis have a chance at joining this kingdom.

Also Harry Waton hated the USSR:

"The World War, which was expected to end all wars, only prepared the ground for still more frightful wars; the Russian revolution, which was expected to bring to the working masses freedom, emancipation and communism, only brought them an oppressive dictatorship, a more intense exploitation and state capitalism; and the upheavals in Europe and elsewhere, which were conceived in democracy, internationalism and socialism, only brought fascism, an insane nationalism and Hitlerism."

He critiques it as state capitalism.

And all of this is even assuming the translation of the text is correct because it seems to be done by only one guy with a clear agenda. But ya this is what happens when you believe Holla Forums and drop your critical thinking skills.

Jesus was gay.

gentiles still get privileges user.

That's Greek you retard. You must mean Saturn, who unironically is god. Praise yweh.

Well the Roman equivalent of Appollo is Phoebus, not like it really matter for memes as most Romans gods are their Greeks counterpart copypasted with a donutsteal logo slapped on it.

Pretty sure there is at-least like 6 of us.

Cause jesus was like:
Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ.
which basically means that jesus was a socdem at best

Religion is still vile when it's trusting enough to support the right to bear arms. The purpose of religion is to put down the righteous worker and bind them into slightly more comfortable shackles. Religions teach people not to live, but to die. In this, they are an asset to unworthy rulers who cannot help their subjects to live.

Progressive thinkers recognized the evils of religion in an age when this took fantastic foresight. In the present day, foresight is needed no longer. Insight suffices to tell those of us alive today that religion is harmful. The world grows steadily more peaceful, more advanced, and more just as it grows less religious. Religion is always a bandage placed upon wounds that have yet to be cleaned.

The argument for tolerating religion at all is that the most effective way to undermine it is not direct opposition (for opposition hardens and binds religious adherents as the Martian soil hardens and binds under the blows of the hammer), but rather to help them in cleaning their wounds. We may take the bandage from them in one compromise or another, and use the opportunity to help them to cleanse both the bandage and that which they used it to cover. When their cleansed garbings are returned thereafter, people are often disinclined to wear them, and the ones who persist become harmless enough after their wounds have been tended.

Holy shit american are disgusting. Even if these guys are cool integrating guns in such way it's just larping and retarded.
Seriously, the look no different from the average redneck fuck. gun nut Fucking cringe.

It's hard to comprehend people if you put too much weight on religious identity; it just isn't a very important part of a functional person. Even priests aren't religious in the way religious people are religious.

Sounds racist to me. Escape clauses like everyone will be "Jews" is to cover up the fact the gentiles will be forced to follow noahide laws in the "world to come" mythology of the yids and be the "willing" slaves of the Jews.

You can almost here the gun click at the back of the head…

Smh do you even have any reading comprehension? There are no slaves in Harry's new society.