I know this happens to all of you, everytime a discussion with a right winger arises they throw the same shit at you every time, they have done it to me so many times that i've thought about constructing a library of responses to the many common arguments, and i thought this, why not socialize the construction of one to my comrades, so post common right wing rethoric, and other anons create a response to it, a few useful guidelines for the responses would be:
Right wing counter argument library
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i'll start i guess
It doesn't deal with specific arguments so maybe it doesn't fit this thread's general purpose, but this is a great site: critiques.us
Basically, it's a categorized compilation of critiques of Libertarianism and anarcho-capitalism from a wide variety of perspectives.
I'm going to need a source on that Cantonese Pleasurescribe
Did they need to? Shits a joke already
Bokutachi wa Benkyou ga Dekinai
well, OP? how do you respond to this one?
It's ironclad.
not NEARLY enough zeros
This is wrong. By responding "Oh well, capitalism kills much more" you are basically acknowledging that socialism indeed killed 100 million people. This imaginary body count is blatant propaganda and even the authors of the book openly admitted it.
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since nobody is posting response ideas here is what i'd like to have detailed and sourced responses myself
Even if it was real, it would still be too low.
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Kill them all so I can write "communism killed 100000000010" over it
Some comments from a Wolff vidya
Anything other than Marxist-Leninist-Pinuism is anti-intellectual garbage and belongs on the Victims Of Communism memorial webpage.
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Then that extends to the supposedly "communist countries" that made and traded stuff between their constituent nations, allies, and neighbors.
So if capitalism is any time someone trades stuff, then there is no difference between capitalism and communism that they insist failed. It's fundamentalist thinking. "God rules everything, except for the bad stuff, that's not his fault." "Capitalism is everything, except the bad stuff, which isn't its fault."
Insert links about United Fruit Company, Coca Cola Death Squads, and the litany of capitalist conspiracies, private armies, and outright assassinations here.
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There are numerous answers for this one. Why should they "risk" anything at all? What makes a business "risk" fundamentally different from just gambling at a casino? What is so special about "risk" that it entitles them not only to what they make, but everything made by other people that "work for" them? And so on and so on.
By now this really shouldn't make me mad but
Who is the leader of the group?
Channel the anger, comrade.
You know him well.
He's finally back.
Peterson keeps re-tweeting this capitalist propaganda account. Isn't one of the reasons poverty appears to go down is because they keep redefining the poverty line to a lower and lower threshold?
Guy in the cap looks like his face is literally pasted on.
On topic though wasn't there a wiki of some type they did this? No idea how to find it now
Man I knew capitalism was awesome, but never realized it's better than everything else combined times infinity+1.
How would you argue against the 'horsepill'? I mean, logically it's sound, you filthy humans are greedy and disgusting, whereas the majestic horse seeks only a fulfilment of base desires. I don't think is possible to argue against, at least not while maintaining the logical highground.
This board is sfw please spoil all pornography.
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Browsing Holla Forums at work illustrates perfectly why communism is fundamentally flawed, and the only solution is to take the Horsepill and return to nature immediately.
Sounds about right.
pottery
You know what? I'm on the edge about that horsepill shtick, how about you try it and post pic with timestamp to convince me?
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Wow dude you're so clever and edgy man. I bet all of your high school classmates must really tremble in your cool kid footsteps. "I identify as dis xdddd" wow the wit!
Livestream yourself getting fucked by a horse and we might take you seriously, spergie.
This user speaks the truth, lead by virtue Horseposter!
Well, horse boy wins. Thread is derailed.
You may have your thread back now
AYO HOL UP
STOP DELETING MY POSTS, DAWG
livestream yourself getting fucked by a horse first then we will.
one of the finest pieces of cinema ever made
and about critical theorists:
Communism
Capitalism limits this
Idk, maybe?
So was feudalism and before that slave society and before that tribal society
Above
Socialism. Even ML ya fool.
Such as a sense of duty to society etc
Just peeked at your pastebin "rebuttal" to the historical facts regarding the mass mayhem endemic to socialist nations. It smears the stink of failed nations onto "capitalism" by simply declaring the mayhem of failed nations to be the fault of successful ones. That is, it doesn't even ATTEMPT a rational train of thought. Rather, it starts and ends with a decree of guilt. Don't you guys have any self respect?
How do you debate the point that diversity destroys social cohesion.
Diversity in what sense? I think right wingers generally wan to argue this based on race. When they found out that was bullshit they've now switched to cultural reasons.
Culture can create tensions and social incohesion, but the terms of debate are disingenuous because right wingers like to imply using these terms that because of that people shouldnt integrate/push for equality.
The point of bringing that up is not to debate fairly how we can integrate better how when it's better to try and create an environment which fosters more respect/solidarity, instead they want to create ethnostates.
This is why I dont debate the point, its agreeing to their shitty terms. If you have to though tell them theyre being ahistorical if they dont understand how cultures over the era have continuously intermingled.
yes, because that's how capitalism works you brainlet
pick any given "failed nation" and dollars to donuts the root of that "failure" can be traced back to the meddling or outright intervention by the us or its pawns