Amerilards back at it again

The reason the american media makes such a big deal is because gun control is a huge disagreement between the liberal "left" and the liberal right. Porky wants the proles' guns, and takes a moral stance against gun ownership, whereas the proles like their guns, but the proles are largely right wing.

They're kids for christ's sakes at least show a little respect

fucking moralfags.
*Insert Stirner and spooks reference here*

Why? Americans clearly don't.

ALL THE OTHER KIDS WITH THE PUMPED UP KICKS~

There are porkies profiting from loose gun laws and they don't want to give up that revenue stream. The media profits, the gun industry profits, the insurance industry profits, the security industry profits, the prison-industrial complex profits, ect. Porky's reach for yield will always overwhelm his common sense.

Imagine if guns were just distributed to everybody, meaning nobody has to buy guns anymore.

If you are leftist and support american gun laws as they are now you are being counter revolutionary. Majority of the groups the have the guns used in mass killing are right wingers who want to kill all of us, or atleast have us in fear. Having such weak gun laws are only helping to destroy the public (common) areas every citizen is entitled to use. It also prevents the left from being able to organize (beyond social media) irl and keeps every isolated from fear of being shot or ambushed (las vegas). The main problem we have as leftist is that most people are apathetic and the ones who aren't are too scared to speak their beliefs (in America especially) for fear of being labeled a "commie/marxist/Red". We need to

Guns in america NEED to be regulated immediately. Organizing the working class is 1000x more important than weapons training. The only successful revolutions in history, socialist or liberal or reactionary have come from ppl organizing people and gaining at least some support of the military class (soldiers, police, generals) of their country. Doing arms training and guerrilla warfare is counter productive and only gives the state an excuse to crackdown on everyone and take more of the people (working class especially) rights away.

My post is mostly talking about America and not Europe so if you dont live in Ameirca and are posting memes about "arming the working class" and "leftist training threads" you are completely out of touch with what is going on here in America.

t. Unironic Democrat

Defending children serves my ego

You are an idiot. There are too many unaccounted guns roaming around in this country.

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Those unaccounted-for guns are in the hands of criminal, possibly revolutionary proles.

he kinda has a point though, are idiots playing army in the woods ever gonna beat the us military? no, of course not. So what's the point?

Radicalize young people so they point their guns in the right direction.

Like a bunch of idiot rice farmers in Vietnam hiding in the jungle? There's nothing more powerful than motivated a guerilla army. Bonus points if they're commies.

Do you even know what a fucking revolution is?

They only will become revolutionary if they are guided and learn class consciousness. That not going to happen behind a computer screen Its only going to happen in person, face to face contact. Having all these guns around seriously stifles attempts to organize.

Americans in 20X0 are not Vietnamese guerillas, and the US military is vastly less retarded at eradicating insurgency now than during Vietnam (even if they still aren't great at it), plus Vietnam was being invaded and getting a huge amount of arms from China and the Soviets, it wasn't a civil war

When the army turns on the government? Or do you believe that first world governments are so weak that a few thousand guys with guns storming Washington DC is going to overthrow the US govt?

So, who's going to guide them and teach them class consciousness?

the vietnamese won based on organizing the entire northern (poor and exploited) part of the country, not because the were the best fighters in the area. That just warlord thinking, it doesn't work in afganistan or somalia and it wont work america.

not sure what point you're trying to make here. both are human
that's why Assad is still in power, Iran is still a state, etc.
you're insane if you think none of the wealthy foreign powers would aid militias in overthrowing Washington D.C. if given the chance.

"When the army turns on the government? Or do you believe that first world governments are so weak that a few thousand guys with guns storming Washington DC is going to overthrow the US govt?"

im glad someone gets it, we need to be ORGANIZING IRL.

These are actually already banned in the US
I don't know why people pick on one ammo over another. A bullet is designed to kill or seriously injure someone, it's not sensible to split hairs about ammo types.
I think you mean AR-15's, m8.
do you honestly think people are shooting each other because they weren't taught in school not to kill people?
if you look at the breakdown in gun statistics, most gun deaths in the us are actually suicides, but they get lumped into the homicide rate. Then you have the inner cities like Chicago and Baltimore where 99% of the gun violence is poor black on black gang related crimes. If you remove those two factors from the equation, the gun homicide rate is actually comparable to most European countries.
TL;DR we don't have a gun problem, we have lots of suicides and gangs

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Apparently the suspect was a Trumptard

I don't understand why Americans say guns are for rebelling against a tyrant government, when they are the most conformist sheeple on the planet, has a revolt ever happened in their country?

The biggest revolt an American does is post memes on facebook.

This is actually viral fake news. The shooters name is Nicolas De Jesus Cruz

Are you afraid yet, commies?

you mean like the civil war?

Are you saying that only pure aryan vikings can be/are on the alt-right?

I'm saying this is not the right guy's account.

The Vietcong hid in tunnels in the tropical heat living off the land for weeks or months and sustained a 10:1 casualty rate, do you believe the average Amerilard (especially prepper types) would deal with comparable hardship for more than an hour before surrendering? The Vietnamese were spirited and accustomed to misery, Americans are nihilistic hedonists.

Iran and Assad aren't insurgencies. The US can now look at people in the most remote parts of the world from tens of thousands of feet in the air in infra vision and vaporise them with one button. American insurgents would be utterly exterminated.

not really, there were a few incidents in the 1800s over labor rights that got crushed

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The Mine Wars happened. Appalachian heritage is socialist, it seems.

The alt-right is trying to frame the suspect as a leftist like with every other shooting. Posted some random pic of a teen in a communist shirt lol.

Why is it that school shooters always look like freakshows before they even start rampaging?

might also be viral fake news but this is going around, showing he was a registered democrat as well

They didn't exactly lose because all of porky's goals were achieved, regime change was barely taken seriously (there was little real effort to reconstruct the countries, massive corruption/fraud etc), the aim from the start was corporate profits.

Practically nobody supported Americans being there in Iraq or Afghanistan especially after the original invasion but in our scenario the US government still exists so clearly order is still somewhat being maintained in the US, IE. most people support the government. It's a totally different circumstance.

That's the first time i heard about this one, it's so obscure. Now the Civil War i think it doesn't count because it was started by the South's and North's armies, not a Militia by regular citizens.

Ask yourself why it is that nearly all of these recent major shootings in the US are occurring in places which are otherwise considered "peaceful" and "mundane" (schools, concerts, malls) and what this says about the state of the Amerikan psyche. The United Snakes is truly a sick country. Non-military/non-cop individuals create spontaneous bloodbaths out of everyday life. Also, take into consideration how these institutions have become incredibly alienated. Schools are specifically designed to function like prisons, malls are prisons for the mind via mass consumerism and advertising, entertainment venues are the real opiate of the masses, etc. They're nothing like what they once were generations ago.

Burgers have a death wish.

I unironically demand that there be a people’s nuke

Honestly I'm just arguing this because I'm depressed right now, but revolution by pure military force is extremely unlikely in the West, a psuedo-velvet revolution is much more likely, but in this case I suppose I concede the point that the citizenry being armed could force the government to back down easier but if the majority of people supported the revolutionaries it really wouldn't matter either way because the US government would grind to a halt without all its millions of functionaries and supporting workers (power, telecoms, etc).

Basically my argument is thus;
Revolution in the West without the support of a majority of people can never succeed militarily
If the majority of people support the revolution military conflict beyond perhaps a few key army Vs army skirmishes would be totally unnecessary

I don't understand why you say that. he's pretty normal-looking for someone who's under the age of 16.

Bruh. The government would either have to buy the guns or manufacture them all itself. Ammo companies pushed for the U.S. to enter WW1 because of this.

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Was this post supposed to be an argument against the redistribution of guns to the masses?

Aren't you the Primmie Jew that destroyed the Roo?

Yes.

People could buy machine guns through the mail until the 30s and until 1968 there were no background checks. It's also legal to buy guns without background checks via private sales and you can manufacture as many guns for yourself and others as you want provided that you're not making money or running afoul of the NFA. The '94 AWB also did nothing; crime started dropping in 1991 and continued to do so before the AWB, during the AWB and after the AWB.

I don't think legislation would do much besides gin up votes for the NRA.

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Those are the eyes of a killer.

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Oh what a load of shit. If anything this was some /r9k/ Holla Forums browsing faggot. Hell he shot up a school on valentines day. This has to be a permavirgin.

Can someone please explain to me why any of them think a "comprehensive" legislative ban - or something of that sort - on firearms would ever be accepted or work?

Why do you think Cletus will fight the drones with you instead of kill you in your revolution, larper?

Was thinking this as soon as I saw it honestly
A Valentine’s Day school shooting reeks of incel

Because it is in his best interests to do so, liberal.

Since when have poor right wingers ever done anything in their best interest?

How would a high school 16 year old be registered to vote?

Cant be him cause his name is Nikolaus Cruz

isn't he in his 20s by now?

Literally what the fuck are you on about?

Since never and you know it. Fucking liberal, poor right wingers become left wingers when people show them why it is a good idea, but nobody has ever cared to show them. Fucking liberals, it is your disdain for the common man that has caused these divisions.

He's 19. But his first name isn't spelled 'Nicholas' like in that record, it's 'Nikolaus' so it's pretty suspect anyway.

He's 19

and? pictures don't age the same way people do.

Oh please… I wish that was true but some people are just born reactionaries and die like them too. Is it everyone in the South/Country, no, but it's probably the majority of prepper/gun nut types

That's not what regulated meant back then tho. Plus regulated refers to the militia, not to the right itself.

where else would you go on a shooting spree? a gun show? a highly secure building? they pick places where they know people are disarmed and won't be able to fight back.

I am puzzled

He said that he doesn't want weaponry to be regulated, but still wants to stop mass shootings in burgerland

Excuse me sweetie, are you implying that spree shooters tend to pick places where carrying a gun is against the rules?

This. It's actually a fair point these shooting ONLY ever happen in gun-free zones. If you can't actually enforce the no-guns rule then don't even fucking bother.

Mass shootings are actually the least of your worries in the US.
justfacts.com/guncontrol.asp

are you implying he's wrong?

the war of northern aggression dosnt count but not for the reason you said
try the whiskey rebellion next

Oh yah I know that, never claimed they were
I'm just repeating what OP said to clarify it for an user

POST THE WEBM I NEED IT

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I live near the area, I went to a rival HS. Parkland is also petit-booj as fuck.

OH NO NO NO

I enjoy every american death so I hope even more people in the US buy guns and the culture becomes further fractured.

Link to video?

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This kind of shit won't get a thousandth of a percent of the attention that muh biolent bideo james got.

Lol. Holla Forums keeps trying to deny that this guy was one of them and is instead trying to paint him as a communist.

Holla Forums are communists

Shooter CONFIRMED for GUSANO.

A bunch of them think that Instagram with him in the MAGA hat is photoshopped.

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Europeans don't understand unless they've lived the suburban and decaying rural areas how isolating and hostile just getting around is. Suburbs were designed for cars, America is a hostile cartoon land a la Who Framed Roger Rabbit.

Seriously, this. America really is an outright science-fiction dystopia compared to europe.

are you sure about that

To put it another way, there's a reason Neuromancer was written by an American.

Pretty soon it's going to be Who Framed Roger Rabit mixed with Neuromancer and The Crying Game

So basically a Pynchon novel? We're already there m8

yes, i thought that implication was pretty clear in my post

8/pol/ is so mental they'll shriek that everything is photoshopped, if it gets proven to be real then its a false flag. The mental illness is obscene

Where that high school is there is pretty much no public transit except on one major road, because muh property values.

4/pol/ is just as bad too.

I live in nearby. This whole place is awful. Pretty sure nothing of value was lost. Still sort of wonder what the precise motivation was.

how the hell was this picture taken?

Overzealous reporters?

Reporters are rarely allowed that close to the suspect. Maybe it was leaked from a police officer's phone.

I'm kinda surprised CSPD did not kill him.

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Theyre already praising this guy over at /r9k/ and pol.

Fuckin angela nagle sais we need to cater to these guys.

How about a bunch of idiot Muslims in the desert?

He's white, why would they?

And a school shooting plot was foiled in Washington.
seattletimes.com/seattle-news/crime/everett-teen-arrested-after-grandma-finds-journal-detailing-school-shooting-plot-police-say/

And 3 people where shot near the Mardi Gras parade.
greensboro.com/news/us_world/police-shot-near-mardi-gras-parade-route/article_7465fab4-99eb-5406-bd15-1bf2e15b217a.html

And a shooting at the NSA.
Change OP's pic to HOURS SINCE LAST MASS SHOOTING

I was thinking that, but those guys have an exceptionally huge stick up their ass. I wonder how much does Coral Springs spend on policing and how many cops there are per capita. I bet it is the most in Broward.

Well, fuck the number of confirmed kills just jumped to 17. Does that put him on the score board?

Me too frankly. Also I've driven to CS a couple times, it's a waste of space. I know people like to laugh at "rewilding" but if any place could use it it's there. Bring back the Everglades etc.

He is white but pretty clearly muttish.

He's top 10

time.com/5159277/parkland-florida-high-school-shooting-safest-city/
LOL

Hes a DACA recipient who registered to vote under the Demacratic Party.

[citation needed]

What's more all American than going on a shooting rampage tho?

That doesn't mean shit to us mr. brainlet.

He's Cuban.

Sorry Holla Forums

I TOLD YOU ABOUT GUSANOS DOG
I TOLD YOU

So that's two murderers who are confirmed Holla Forumsacks?

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Having Cruz in your name doesn't make you a DACA recipient.

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Can't wait until we get two separate mass school shooting on the same day. Come on Merica, you can do this.

The shooter has already been confirmed as a gusano.

Yeah it would be funny if the FBI didn't feel the same way.

Maybe you missed this retarded post here:

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This shit is why you have to eliminate reactionaries AND their families. You can't have their failspawn wandering around. Even in exile they will yearn for that surplus and transmit that desire onto their children.

Children under 11 can be re-educated though.

delet this

He was half right. The European Union will always be garbage.
Shame he was spooked to death

So I see this quote tossed around a lot to promote anti-idpol leftism and I agree with it for the most part.
However the overwhelming (burger) consensus on this board is that firearm ownership and sales should be completely unregulated, or even that everyone should own a gun. This obviously poses a problem because then, even without the institutional power derived from capitalism, a racist white man still has the power to easily kill a black man if he has a weapon. I also think the "muh both should be armed" argument is not a very good one, as, for one, there's still a lot that can go wrong in this scenario even if you manage get away with your life and two, a society with no guarantee of relative safety for everyone is not a very attractive prospect for most people and will make it hard to garner support for your cause. Like, sure, I might not be working for porky anymore but I might get in a firefight with someone who doesn't like people like me for whatever reason every time I leave the house. This is an environment that breeds paranoia, mistrust and eventually balkanization.
So yeah, racism and prejudice gets a good chunk of its power from capitalism, but not all of it, and this is why some of the idpol concerns are not entirely invalid.

Can you imagine what would be happening right now if two murderers had been associated with Holla Forums in the us? We would be crawling with feds. Yet they seem completely clueless about radicalization of failsons at home. What gives?

This could go in the late stage capitalism thread just as well.

The feds probably already heavily monitor Holla Forums

Fascism is the natural evolution of liberalism

lmao that's a great pic

I'm convinced a lot of people on chan boards are like 14 years old. There is no way we should be supporting unregulated gun control and people living in Europe are lucky that they don't have to deal with this shit. Most of our gun toting populace are lolberts and conservatives. Maybe in the 1800's it made sense, but not anymore.

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The proles must be armed. Sorry if this offends you.

Is it bad that my first thought would be "I wonder how much I can get for selling exclusive rights to my photos and videos"?

Welcome

There is no class consciousness. The majority of gun violence is towards other proles… meanwhile porky is making bank selling arms. WAKE UP SHEEPLE.

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We (leftist) should or atleast guide them to the right direction.

SUBURBAN PORKIES AREN'T PROLES

and it ruins the ability to organize in public places

Source?

fucking lol

Suburban porkies? Gun manufacturers aren't mom and pop shops. Firearms are a multi-billion dollar industry.

Sterilise Americans.

There are lots of multi-billion dollar industries in the US. There is no ethical consumption under capitalism.

Most people in the US who own guns, who shoot themselves with guns, or shoot others with guns in schools are petty-bourgeois.

Enjoying your daily truck attacks eurocuck?

at least he assimilated pretty well

enjoying your daily attacks on twin towers?

I dunno, you tell me.

having a gun doesn't protect you from the police, you will never win a shootout with them, this isn't GTA. You should be worried about protection from the state (gov't) and its alphabet agencies.

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Bundy Ranch

No source needed. Ppl are less likely to organize for REAL protest when they are worried about getting gunned down.

We also have a alienation crisis in the developed world where ppl are not willing to go outside and socialize. worrying about being potential violence in the public doesn't help fix it.

Yes exactly. Most proles with guns shoot other proles, including self-inflicted suicide wounds.

oops. My reading comprehension failed me.

He didn't win anything. he had support from Republicans oligarchs and the koch brothers trying to help advance their cause of forcing the US gov't to sell off public wilderness lands. He was a puppet. and i heard he is selling his ranch anyway.

Leftist dont have any rich oligarchs in gov't or donating to campaigns backing us so what is your point?

I got a diversity visa to the US and immigrated here when I was around 12 from Nepal. So I do have some idea on what life is like back there and go to visit family there occasionally. Its just anecdotal evidence based on my experiences but there is something deeply wrong with the American psyche. The people here are fucking ill and even a third world shithole like Nepal has people who have better mental stability. Maybe its the consumerism, but the people in the US have such an unhealthy mentality and so many people seem to be living right on the edge of doing something insane like this guy here.

You're pretty much on the money. We're a deeply sick country going through a uniquely imbecilic and insane period in our history

It's the last gasp of the boomer generation.

When Trump falls, they'll all fall with him.

People really don't understand that gun deregulation is basically a mainstream conservative, republican and lolbertarian agenda. In the U.S. it's not a radical position - there are many more reactionaries that want lax gun control than there are revolutionaries that want it. There are so many fucking libertarian militias with in the U.S. that are organized, read their Ayn Rands, and swear that all liberals are cultural Marxists- those are the people getting the guns.

It's an overworked population with a commute to work and a commute to essentials like groceries, the bar, and the pharmacy, this combined with processed food designed to be addictive in the way narcotics are, and a predatory medical system. The only social relations people in rural and suburban America have are with their family, a hierarchical relationship, and with their boss, another hierarchical relationship, there's no looking to the side. How can you have time to organize a trade union if you don't have time to meet with your coworkers to drink and socialize? This combined with media, giving people a box to watch so the social alienation doesn't crush them.

mfw

unironically this

It's more than just the boomers. Look how alienated and mentally ill millennials are.

This. There's a reason internet humor leans so far towards pessimistic absurdism.

Do Nepalis have extended family living close to each other usually? I've had this theory for a while that having multiple generations of family in the home is better for everyone's mental health.

ITT: reactionaries misunderstanding Marx and dishonestly quoting him out of context. The only people that should have guns are revolutionaries, not dumb Holla Forumsshits you crypto-conservatives.
Hitler clearly said that communism is the natural enemy of his ideology. Gee it’s almost like the USSR mass produced weapons and equipment for pre-WW2 Germany by this same insane logic.

Everyone in the proletarian class has revolutionary potential user

Remember the proles MUST be armed

Thanks for the counterexample, mongoloid.

They don't stop to think about how gun control will just land more working-class black people people in literal slave-labor dairy farms.
They also don't stop to consider how blocking "mentally ill" people from arms will effectively disarm the entire queer population in some states.

And the police will totally let protests happen…if they're polite……….yeah………………

You're right. In Nepal, cousins are equivalent to brothers and sisters. It actually extends farther than that as well as people are tied to each other due to sharing the same great-great grandparent for example. Generally people who have mental illness are taken care of by the family and you rarely see homelessness because the family is there to cover for you. So theres a lot less alienation because your closest friends are quite often your cousins.

Of course once they immigrate to the west that family dynamic erodes and within a generation or two it becomes non-existent.

True true
Pretty strange that most people on this board dont seem to know that Mark Argued for the arming of the Working class to prevent the new socialist goverment from acting tyrannical

This is fake you moron.

Seems like the guy is a Cuban and his family is super anti-castro.

Sending the Gusanos to Miami was one of the smartest things Castro ever did for Cuba.

Are the Democrats right, Comrades?

It's not wrong, it's incomplete, since the republicans and democrats are essentially the same party

Blue Dogs are a thing.

Proofs?

boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/160513695#p160520041

He was a commie daca recipient guys! Dont fall for the fake news

It's a brand new account with new pictures.

Of course.

1) brandishing a gun at a protest doesn't make you safer, it just makes the police in the US escalate and limits the protest itself . The optics of seeing that on the MSM news wont help. We are fighting a uphill battle to not have leftism associated with stalinism and Gulags in america.

2) IF you get into a shootout with the police in the US, you will not win. This isn't me being negative, just plain honesty. Look at all the race riots in Chicago, New York, Detroit during the 1910s. They would do the same thing they did to blacks they will do to leftist.

Big if true.

Speaking of which, someone inform Roo of this.

Do you know the date?

The recent protesters in St. Louis were completely unarmed and were still beaten and tear-gassed by police.

Yeah, new.

Parkland is nowhere near Oakland Park, top kuk.

Cops are cowards and will always avoid antagonizing armed people unless they are brandishing their weapon(s) in an aggressive or illegal manner.

Are you aware of the current date user?

Nope, it's real.

Lmao so what. You don't know about South-American nazis?

This. Cops are aware that they have everything to lose by antagonizing an armed person who's complying just perfectly with the rules. If that same person had no weapon, they'd go for it indefinitely.

dude's 19, how the fuck did he get his hands on these?

There are like six High Schools closer to that address than Douglas.

With money.

Based on those pictures I'd expect him to be a completely regular retard. They fit a certain profile -like pale, skinny, goofy-looking -
because that's what signals "bully me until my latent mental disorder is triggered" but in any given school they're one in many

Same way anyone else over 18 (or under with parent permission), walk into a gun store and buy them off the rack

Can't drink Miller Light till you're 21 though :^)

the irony, it is rich and creamy

Not wrong, but missing a lot of other pieces.

True but they didn't follow up their protest with anything. It has to be more than just a reaction to some racist cop shooting. They should be organizing present day.

For CCW's.

they're knowingly spreading fake news doxxing innocent people so people think it's a muslim or illegal alien or antifa. seriously how does Holla Forums live with themselves?

It was a week-long protest that was violently suppressed.
Cops beat people in DC for wearing black last year.
Copare that to how cops pussied out when RGA showed up to a protest in Austin.

They'll all kill themselves within five years.

Holla Forums is comprised almost entirely of "that guy" types and boomers. They don't live at all.

They justify their actions with the very same fake information they're knowingly producing, it's just group psychosis

The mexican White Trump nazi! Totally not some hysterical communist beaner with a picture of a dead frog because hillary told them it's the symbol of the mythical "alt-right" who changed his profile picture before shooting.

geomovements.com/list-of-fake-antifa-accounts-on-twitter-f8f8f14c4bf9

Also see >>2397548

Nobody buys your tinfoil hat bullshit, Holla Forums. Go to bed.

You know that account is fake right? I know boomers aren't tech literate or anything but come on.

How exactly is this surprising? Half of you white supremacists are spics and the other half are niggers and hapas, poltards legitimately have internalised oppression, probably what makes you want to kill children

Why were you guys sharing this guy's photo before he was even nationally famous?

At least post the archive.
archive.4plebs.org/_/search/image/N1J1fpcynGE7uSBKXUIimQ/

The point is, mass shootings are symbolic of how fucked up American society has become and their targets reflect that.

You know that's exactly what they're gonna claim.

These cops keep up with the news and usually know the group (their ideology and leaders) that are protesting. Alot of the ones in my area are iraq veterans and they get off on the rush of shooting. My uncle is a cop and he would take me to their police union meetings. Mostly eating, drinking and alot of talking about bullshit and they aren't afraid to share stories about beating a suspect or threatening ppl. "Just dont bring a camera to my desk" , "you aint wired are ya?"

You're right they are cowards but the law and most of public take their sides when shootings occur. They look for excuses because the sheriff, mayor and district attorney are all usually working together and have the same goals and donors and families live in the same neighborhoods and kids go to the same schools. The local news usually will play ball and let certain issues slide to just get access and exclusives when "breaking news happens".

Why don't these little psychos ever kill anyone that deserves it like politicians or bankers? I just don't get it. Hell at least they could go into their own workplace and shoot the boss, but no, just kids. Fucking dickless manlets.

They want a guaranteed kill. Also they often sympathize with the powerful and believe that the powerless are somehow preventing them from achieving. Oh and it doesn't help that the MSM encourages prole and petty bourg alike to blame themselves rather than the system for their problems, even when those problems are largely systemic.

That poster isn't even a comrade, but a shitposter. Poor guy is going to have his face plastered all over online because the original user likely got it from a random instagram profile.

Because it is ridiculous, and you idiots spout about "tinfoil hat" on the same breath. You fucking idiots.

It's the picture of a regular cringe ass communist, who knew that queer would bitch out like that, and what you even want to prove with this faggot.

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Confirmed not

Good lord, I thought you all were in the joke.

The guy they arrested was just a deep cover false flag agent commie shill to cover it all up and blame the innocent Nazis yet again, this goes all the way to the top kiddo!

Yes, they pull out before the reserve advances on the white house.
Just like 1917.

There are people who still think that James Fields was driving that car.

*wasn't

see

Rude….

The army won't side with the revolutionaries unless there is a strong civilian presence willing to kill them in defence of the revolution. Begone socdem.

America is decentralized. You would have to do that in each individual state. However that also means that you could do it in one state and then spread the revolution throughout the country as well.

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Antifa doesn't organize online because they don't want to be watched by the feds and the always online nazis (i.e. you losers.)

Drop it, Holla Forums. You're full of shit.

Why are you triggered? Just go look at one of your own pol facepics threads or meetups, at least half of you are some kind of Amerimutt mix or just straight a minority, don't ask me to explain why but it's true. You're deeply damaged people.

He has sunlight directly in his face on this picture and a different haircut.

Heh, try about "being angry over the mass media spreading ridiculous lies and have their useful idiot peasants parrot it".

Sunlight doesn't make your eyes change color from dark brown to blue-green, you dumbass.

Yes, I agree when Breitbart and Fox parrot your bullshit it's aggravating.

hello. will you be my comrade?

No.

Holla Forums BTFO kys lying pieces of shit

"Whiteness" is entirely contextual, disphit.

Zimmerman was white when he killed Trayvon since his action was reproducing the system of white supremacy.

Schools are sick. The culture is sick.humans are neurotic monkeys thinking they are something special. This madness will never end because humanity is fundamentally a mistake by nature

It does, beaners/race mix are mutant freaks and their bodies work like that.

[citation needed]

This is what happens Holla Forums tries to science.

Look at his fucking chin lad are you blind

Maybe the deep state shut down the atoms in his face to make him look different?

But user, don't you see? His Mutt Powers shapeshifted his face when exposed to sunlight. This is the power of an antifa supersoldier, I tell you!!

Not to mention the face with light on it looks to have lobeless ears while the other has lobes on the ears

Nah I'm pretty sure da jooz hiding under my bed gave him plastic surgery before the shooting.

They chipped away with his face with satanic surgery gauntlets made of a thousand sharpened dreidels with extreme HebrewTech precision while they wore the surgical scrubs from Dead Ringers

Different angle and different lightning, and he looks fatter on recent pic.

That's a virgin/chad meme waiting to happen

Or, it's a different guy and you're gullible.

Despite it's not.

someone plz do it

What, did the deep state antifa supersoldier plastic surgery corps change up his face in order to dupe the public into demonizing Holla Forums? Get real.

You are stupid

You are an idiot

You are not smart

You are an unintelligent man

No, don't you get it? His beaner mutt mutant biology made him fatter and changed his eye color when exposed to natural light. That's totally valid science right there.

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In order to do that they an hero themselves and try to do the same false flag shit they are trying to do.
It's eternally September 1939.

This. It is a well known fact that amerimutts can change shape and color when they feel threatened.

I think we have a school shooter in this thread with us lol

t. your ass

We're gonna have a Reichstagg fire every year, and people will bet on how close it is to the superbowl or something.

You know you keep doing this but later get humiliated when it turns out to be someone different in public

So why do you keep doing this and not waiting until you know, there's an official announcement

So you don't look like shit? Humiliated? Theorizing a way out of your predicament?

They desperately want a Reichstag fire deep down.

Might be a bit off topic, but anybody have good stats on cop violence?

Here's the thing though, a Reichstagg fire wouldn't actually get them into power, because everybody is essentially a chicken with our heads cut off because America as a nation state makes no sense and is rapidly decaying.

America doesn't need fascism. They have almost no working class political movements. There is no resistance to bourgeoisie rule. They are simply living in a decaying imperial core and are having trouble adjusting to that fact and are lashing out wildly at perceived enemies.

Already answered every bullshit you posted.
Light skinner spics can have their eyes look different depending on how much sunlight they take.

The mindset of a communist little man, on an anonymous image board.

That isn't an argument. I'll repeat

You know you keep doing this but later get humiliated when it turns out to be someone different in public

So why do you keep doing this and not waiting until you know, there's an official announcement

So you don't look like shit? Humiliated? Theorizing a way out of your predicament?

Is English a second language for you?

What happens to a society without class consciousness finds itself rapidly decaying and has no language to deal with the problems at its core?

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We all know the school shooter demographic Holla Forums

It's you

Except that's scientifically bullshit, and you know it.

What do these freaks get for shooting kids? How does it advance their politics? Why dont any of these guys have the balls to go after people in power instead of bullying the weak

The kids have issues

It is, and I am not a petty faggot like you.

It's beaners.

This isn't bait. Let that sink in.

That isn't an argument. I'll repeat

You know you keep doing this but later get humiliated when it turns out to be someone different in public

So why do you keep doing this and not waiting until you know, there's an official announcement

So you don't look like shit? Humiliated? Theorizing a way out of your predicament?

Okay, where did you hear that? I highly doubt you heard it in biology class.

I'd argue it is actually American Whites who are the mutants, and not Hispanic people of the Americas.

I thought he was fucking joking until he kept replying. I'm glad I have insomnia tonight, this thread is solid gold

I just might screencap his replies and post them in the right wing cringe thread.

Do it, better yet cap the whole thread and somebody do a leftypol thread simulator

Bat'ko video set to Pumped Up Kicks when?

This is his youtube account

youtube.com/channel/UCVyoiXZrr1MFoNIrERLHBSw/

The mindset of a communist little man, on an anonymous image board.

Do you know what melanin is? Do you know eyes have melanin on them? Do you know sun exposure can make your body produce more melanin? Do you know light can show more detailed nuances in color?

You God damn retard.

CALLED IT

Melanin doesn't make your eyes change color, you scientifically illiterate retard.

You cant make this shit up

Are you honestly suggesting that his eye color changed because he tanned his eyes?

the ABSOLUTE STATE of white nationalists

I'm subscribed to many gun channels he is subscribed.
Damn…
Honestly I dont care if Americans get shot.
I fucking hate US with a red hot passion and Florida is one of the shittiest states in the US.
I don't even care if there are kids among the diseased.
I just worry that there might be an assault weapons ban because I love the gun channels in Youtbe.

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Nice false flag.

And?

what are you talking about?

Your hatred is irrational. The people you should hate are the porkies, kids who are apolitical and had full lives left to live didn't deserve this.

So this is Holla Forums's fabled "race science"

Well be fair this is late capitalism we're talking about, and in Florida no less

Are mass shootings a bubble?

what video is that on

I have to admit that my hatred is biased.
Most of the people I've come across from Florida are racists and rich people.
so fuck them all.
Fuck the United States as a whole there will never be a socialist revolution in the US.
I my heart is filled with joy every time a tragedy takes place in the US.

Time to invest before the bubble pops

Yes
money.cnn.com/2018/02/12/news/companies/remington-bankruptcy-plans/index.html

Obama was an amazing gun salesman.
I wouldn't be surprised if this was an inside job to stimulate the firearms sells in the US.
yeah i know I went full conspiratard.

It's time to HODL, school shootings are the new Bitcoin

Melanin is what make eyes brown, you god damn fucking retard, this is middle school knowledge.

He's saying that exposure to sunlight can't suddenly change that amount of melanin.

Have you seriously not been BTFO enough yet?

Go home 'white' man

Oh lord the delusion

boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/160522293

He is saying garbage, plus not even realizing that better lightning can give you a better look at coloring, which isn't even science but simply not being blind or a mouth breather.

There is only a bunch of communist retards who don't know children level biology.

Getting a better look isn't going to change the basic fucking color, you fucking retard.

Is English even your first language, or are you fucking impaired?

America is the vanguard of neoliberal policy, especially in the West. The recent rise in mass shootings in the US is undoubtedly tied to a combination of neoliberalism and the social alienation it brings about. This isn't some disease particular to America, it's the canary in the coal mine for the rest of the world. If the march of neoliberalism isn't stopped, America is your future.

Another comment from that account:

"It's all about having kids and spreading genes"
youtube.com/watch?v=rtkX7QUncio

Comment made by another account named Nikolas Cruz. This one was banned for "multiple or severe violations of YouTube's policy on violence.":

“Lol i also follow ypu on instagram vro"
“You should try making a pipe bomb or a propane bomb its awsome”
youtube.com/watch?v=rmi68yVR6v4

“Buhahaahahahaha this does not stop me from shooting in my backyard new years and fourth of.july people"
youtube.com/watch?v=WdILzig8wnU

“please do a video with smith and wesson m&p 15 sport 2”
youtube.com/watch?v=giDHj9hq6fI

“Im going watch them sheep fall fuck antifa i wish to kill as many as i can"
youtube.com/watch?v=Eu6AVaCjnbs

Related to above: youtube.com/watch?v=DzNwinmBawo
archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/160525369/#160533548

The banned account:
youtube.com/channel/UC9JpLJqm5SaMryfxXPiF-ow
web.archive.org/web/20180215024504/https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9JpLJqm5SaMryfxXPiF-ow

so what will Alex Jones hot take be on this one? it was a false flag by the communist liberals right?

Let's see, off the top of my head.
1. affordable health care and a reigning in of the influence of big pharma and insurance on the healthcare industry (cutthroat capitalism and runaway lobbying have made healthcare a nightmarish mess for most people to access, let alone things like mental health).
2. public funding to open more insane asylums
3. empower police, doctors and psychologists to have people involuntarily committed again (This was standard practice before recently)
4. authorize corporal punishment in schools again, fine/jail any parent who speaks out against this because they demonstrate that they cannot be trusted to instill discipline in their child.

All of this would cut down on school shootings and the first three were in place before the Reagan administration and neoliberals gutted mental health services to nothing. The last measure ensures that children are more respectful towards both staff and each other and learn that they won't be given free reign to screw around and cause trouble. Sounds a bit draconian when compared to the current way of things but that honestly would be the best way to reverse the current trend.

That's always his hot take.

The only difference is that he's probably going to claim the shooter was Antifa.

Probably, despite clearly being a Holla Forumstard, he hated cops and was subscribed to a channel called "KGB Survivalist", so it's likely that's where Alex Jones will take it.

"Regulated" meant supplied or built up. A well-regulated militia is one that is fully equipped to a degree that would sent Democrats into catatonic shock to see. Taking at its literal definition, "the militia" (which is defined as every able bodied male from age 15 to 45) should have access to arms equivalent to the military.

Correction: Not merely the option to acquire said arms, but to have them on hand at all times. We're talking privatized fighter-bombers and cruise missiles.

le smug agent provocateur. I also like to go on Holla Forums and call them liberals, they get VERY upset.

dude, atleast commit to your ideology

another problem is basically cable news. The ultimate TV News As A Product We Want To Sell 24 Hours Of And We Have No Journalistic Integrity Because That Might Hurt Profits means if you have a manifesto and you shoot a bunch of people, the networks will crawl over each other to discuss the whole thing at length. we're actively set up to ENCOURAGE copycat killers at this point.

The only way to stop bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun. Which is why we need to shoot every American with a gun and be good guys

>wanting a bourg state entity to be regulating things
Take off your flag you fucking liberal scum

"Workers of my country, I have faith in Chile and its destiny. Other men will overcome this dark and bitter moment when treason seeks to prevail. Keep in mind that, much sooner than later, the great avenues will again be opened through which will pass free men to construct a better society. Long live Chile! Long live the people! Long live the workers!"
President Salvador Allende's farewell speech, 11 September 1973.[5]

Just before the capture of La Moneda (the Presidential Palace), with gunfire and explosions clearly audible in the background, Allende gave his farewell speech to Chileans on live radio, speaking of himself in the past tense, of his love for Chile and of his deep faith in its future. He stated that his commitment to Chile did not allow him to take an easy way out, and he would not be used as a propaganda tool by those he called "traitors" (he refused an offer of safe passage), clearly implying he intended to fight to the end.[98]

Shortly afterwards, the coup plotters announced that Allende had committed suicide. An official announcement declared that the weapon he had used was an automatic rifle. Before his death he had been photographed several times holding an AK-47, a gift from Fidel Castro.[99] He was found dead with this gun, according to contemporaneous statements made by officials in the Pinochet regime.

as someone who has traveled Europe and the middle east and asia considerably (live in america, but my family is from syria and palestine)

i can honestly say America is in a later stage of capitalism than a good portion of the world, it has really effected us mentally and its turned us all into pieces of shit.

america is the only country on earth where its normal for mothers and fathers to make their children pay for rent when they hit 16, or force their kids out of the house. also the way well off families don't even support their kids with money help or how no one in this society is trusting of other people is really damning. the countries that haven't been as corrupted by consumerism and late stage capitalism still have normal values and aren't as disgusting as americans mentally

did you grew up in one of those souless suburbs? why don't try to move to a small town? like…why don't you go to Montana or similar place where life must be slower and there's still perhaps a sense of community?

wow look at that extremely real twitter account

Probably because most people in those communities are spooked, racist, and trump supporters.

i doubt they're more spooked than people from the cities

I'm an American born and raised and this is all true. I wish I was born in another country.

Man, I'm kind of glad not having to live in America.

Why don't you move to the country from where your heritage was from?
Learn the language

i was born in wisconsin and moved to florida when i was 4. have lived in souless suberbs for my whole life.

and i'm pretty sure small towns are just as backwards and reactionary seeing as how right winger reactionaries are synonymous with small town southern bs

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From what I understand Britain is going through a stint of xenophobia and Germany don't want you unless you're an engineer.

Germany only wants engineers? No, Germany has an aging population issues, they want young people.
They don't want the refugees to return to Syria anymore, they are harvesting young people from Southern Euro countries to stay there.Berlin nowdays is like the United Nations.

Can we shorten this meme down to just one thing related to him. You can make multiple memes. This only works in a debate and debate only.

rifles are fine, they're a lot harder to carry/smuggle into some place to shoot people up
handguns cause almost all gun deaths

this. the eu is a colonisation of the euorpean periphery by germany (and france)

Fuck off pseud.

You need to have the mental health system and regular health system completely reworked and rebuilt, it's a massive mess.

And those figures already can get you involuntarily committed should they consider you a threat to yourself or others, but you'll be out pretty quick since mental health facilities are mostly private and let you loose as soon as the insurance coverage hits max

While this is true, yesterday's shooter was able to buy an automatic rifle despite being flagged by the FBI and the school as a potential threat.

There's something horribly wrong with this country.

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The US has lost almost complete control of most Afghanistan and are holed up inside cities and strongholds. The Taliban control the country, and now ISIS is flowing in after being driven out of Iraq/Syria. If there is some major crisis that would otherwise distract or prevent the US from supplying constant air support, there is the very real danger of American troops being overwhelmed and wiped out.

It's Vietnam all over again. The second the Americans can't keep them under their thumb, it's going to all come crashing down.

Not sure what to choose.

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Florida shooting suspect charged with 17 murders, legally bought AR-15 about one year ago, source says

chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/ct-nikolas-cruz-florida-school-shooting-suspect-20180215-story.html

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so the righties are pushing "diversity" is what causes mass shootings

How the fuck do their brains operate? i genuinely want every single one of these people dead. entire generations of families just fucking gone, please God.

There is literally nothing these freaks won't latch onto to justify and promote their sick, twisted worldview. Fucking vultures.

There is absolutely no way Trump won't make this situation worse.

He's already blamed the community for this atrocity.

This is, of course, in the face of reports that the community did just that and nothing happened.

"but that amendment was made when muskets were around, not fully automatic hollow point AR-16"

Shitpost.

They'd be screeching about false flags if it were another scrawny white dipshit like Dylan Roof or Adam Lanza.

Wanting gun control is first worldist borgeois first worldist reformist liberal revisionist garbage and if you come here believing in it I can rationally assume you've been funded by the CIA to subvert the Left.

BAN ANARKIDDIES IMMEDIATELY.

Honestly, this board is dumb as hell when it comes to guns. There's a middle ground between "ban all guns" and "give every citizen when a M16 when they turn 7." The gun laws in America are completely fucking retarded and there are plenty of common sense, easy things you can do to at least alleviate the issue a bit. There's never gonna be a complete solution because the moral rot and disease of this country is too deep to ever be fixed at this point but you could save some lives with some simple regulations.

Fuck that bullying and humiliating the/pol/yps is too much fun.

well, being able to tell the difference between automatic and semi-automatic would be some start.

It's not like they're innocent victims. They fucking dish it out all the time with their bullshit in every nook and cranny of the web they can find, but the moment somebody punches back they sperg out about "muh freeze peach"

Gonna be honest you should be starting younger than 7 with the training.

it's just so tempting to finally give in to the dominant opinions. I bet these are very largely americans.

Americans like to believe that action movies are reality. That more guns = more safety and that they're all Dirty Harry heroes.

As we've learned many times, just because you're armed and trained doesn't mean you won't get killed. Just ask cops and military about that.

At this point I honestly don't see how the US federal government can win.

There is no nation-state in the world with as deeply an interconnected economy as the US, no country that has relied on long-distance transport and its crumbling infrastructure to get large amounts of urgently needed goods from place to place, no country that has ever had such a deeply interwoven and complex economy, no country since the Roman Empire that has been so important to global trade as the US is at this moment. Guerillas probably can't manage to directly take on the US army and win. So what? They can't take DC like the 1917 revolt. So what? What part of the US economy is not going to fucking tank the moment there's a few thousand armed insurrectionists and actual firefights happening in the country? How is that not going to cause massive panics across the board? To cause bankruptcies, companies to flee, to pull their investments back out?

The US stock market can't even handle a small wage increase and the threat of a minor bond rate increase without throwing stock markets into disarray, the entire economy is a bubble, which the federal government absolutely relies on, and you expect me to believe that it's going to just brush off a fucking armed revolt?

I SAID I DEMAND THE PEOPLE’S NUKE.

FBI and teachers warned about Nikolas Cruz
The FBI has confirmed that it was warned about the teenager who allegedly carried out a mass shooting at his former school in Florida.
Nikolas Cruz, who has been charged with 17 counts of premeditated murder, reportedly left a comment on a YouTube video last year stating: "I'm going to be a professional school shooter."
The FBI said it had investigated the YouTube comment but had been unable to fully identify the person who posted it. (yeah right)
Meanwhile maths teacher Jim Gard told the Miami Herald newspaper that school authorities had emailed teachers about Mr Cruz's behaviour.
"We were told last year that he wasn't allowed on campus with a backpack on him,"
It is unclear why Mr Cruz was expelled from the school. Former schoolmate Joshua Charo said Mr Cruz had been found with bullets in his backpack.
bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-43071710
Seems like the FBI gets "warned" and "is aware of" literally every shooter these days. THEY ARE DELIBERATELY LETTING IT HAPPEN.

It's over Homero, aliens will never talk to us because of bitcoins.

Nice to see Trump's posse is here to deflect.

No, I am not a Trump supporter. The FBI and the other intel agencies let these shootings happen (and "let" is a generous term in many cases) for a couple reasons:
1. It's part of the strategy of tension, it makes proles afraid of each other and reliant on the bourgeois state.
2. Most public shooters and terrorists these days are part of the proxy shock troops of the bourgeois state. Such as the Manchester Bombers who literally worked for the Mi5. In the USA, all white supremacist militant groups are run by the FBI as a dormant proxy force that they will be able to use to kill communists and other revolutionaries.
Nikolas Cruz Trained With Florida White-Supremacist Group, Leader Says
thedailybeast.com/nikolas-cruz-trained-with-florida-white-supremacist-group-leader-says/?ref=home
The FBI ignored the reports because they are ignoring all reports about their proxy forces.

Here's another link because DailyBeast is unreliable:
twitter.com/AP/status/964197379141455872
apnews.com/892a28db92924e2faa15e7b90a5b843f?utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=AP&__twitter_impression=true

Nikolas Cruz was part of a secret government program to train white supremacist militants, which is why he was "ignored" by the FBI. Also, just a hunch, but his parents were probably Batista exiles.

Anprim's hot take on gun violence

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The FBI secretly funds and controls the militia movement, this is not a big mystery.

but what if I shoot and eat only the weak and sickly humans?

Identity politics continuing to literally kill people. Fuck.

[citation badly needed]

AnPrims are not vegan. A member of DGR wrote The Vegetarian Myth.

>apnews.com/892a28db92924e2faa15e7b90a5b843f

Seems like this is case closed. He was a White Nationalist, Holla Forums's very own little wind up soldier decided to take their insanity to its logical conclusion and killed a bunch of kids.

Fucking disgusting

The militia movement is absolutely full to the brim with FBI informants, yet it keeps on growing. The Oregon militia, for instance, had like 15 informants in it, which is ridiculous. These informants are not for the purpose of dismantling the militia movement, but for keeping tabs on it and controlling/directing it.
Defense lawyers suspect Kullman is one of the 15 confidential informants who provided information to the government during the course of the refuge occupation.
oregonlive.com/oregon-standoff/2017/03/defense_seeks_arrest_warrant_f.html
FBI Authorized Informants To Commit Crime While At The Refuge
opb.org/news/series/burns-oregon-standoff-bundy-militia-news-updates/fbi-informants-crime/

The "infiltration" goes both ways (and always has, ever since the KKK):
theintercept.com/2017/01/31/the-fbi-has-quietly-investigated-white-supremacist-infiltration-of-law-enforcement/
pbs.org/newshour/nation/fbi-white-supremacists-in-law-enforcement
>Problems with white supremacists in law enforcement have surfaced since that report. In 2014, two Florida officers — including a deputy police chief — were fired after an FBI informant outed them as members of the Ku Klux Klan. It marked the second time within five years that the agency uncovered an officer’s membership in the KKK. Several agencies nationwide have also launched investigations into personnel who may not be formal hate group members, but face allegations of race-based misconduct.

Liberal media portrays this as some kind of threat to the police and the FBI, but this is just a continuation of the old Nazi and KKK strategy of joining the police to kill blacks. The Nazis "infiltrate" the Feds and the Feds "infiltrate" the Nazis while both groups just keep growing and the Feds always "look the other way" when a shooting like this is planned.

I don't believe that the FBI actively knew this would happen but it instead illustrates the fact that you can't spy on the entire country at oncr if you want to actually stop crimes, which is why the FBI makes so much effort in creating entrapment terrorist plots they orchestrate so they can pretend to have thwarted an attack

Yeah I I have a question my dudes, I've been watching americans tweeting things like "the problem is not the guns, it's just that you banned jesus" or "bad guys don't care about laws so if you change the law it would just affect the bad guys"

And my question is, why are americans so fucking stupid morons like jesus what the fuck is wrong with them?

Is this even applicable anymore when most governments can kill you blindfolded, so to speak

You are right about Americans being complete government cuckolds now but there was a time when workers were fighting and dying for the rights people take for granted now. It's absolutely sickening to see people want to be exploited even more than they are now.

America's neo-resistance is a bunch of Twitterati being liberal shits and waiting for the next election or hoping the FBI (Jesus wept) will get Trump. It's pathetic. Absolutely pathetic.

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Nikolas Cruz was trained to become an imperialist mercenary
Nikolas Cruz was a member of his school's JROTC, which is a club for American middle and high school students to be trained and indoctrinated as soldiers. When you train people to massacre civilians in foreign countries, don't be surprised if they do it in the homeland as well.
See pic: he wore his ROTC shirt to the shooting.
twitter.com/JoshCohenRadio/status/963930997858471936

>The 19-year-old got expelled last year from Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School for undisclosed disciplinary reasons. And less than a year ago, the former Junior ROTC cadet bought a military-style AR-15 rifle.
apnews.com/f2a6ca6b04394e24aacb8475bc50bfb9/Students:-Shooting-suspect-harassed-peers,-bragged-about-gun

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Junior_Reserve_Officers'_Training_Corps

Cruz displayed his love and affiliation for the US Army in his Instagram photos. He prominently wore a US Army baseball cap and wool cap, along with his MAGA hat.

I hope his dog is okay.

Guns are regulated. It's literally just an issue of how much so.

There isn't a solution to this, that I'm aware of, that isn't spooky. The two best solutions for this probably are more extensive background checks (wrt mental health, which could have been caught in at least a few cases) and further restrictions on heavier weapons. And these can, obviously, both be abused or lead to broad capitalist overreach. So I guess we're left to deal in a hypothetical of how this should be handled under socialism/communism/anarchy/georgist-mutualism/primitivism/whathaveyou.

While I do think that some restriction on guns (and probably aforementioned background checks) would probably be a good idea, the contention can certainly be made that much of the problem here is a consequence of American capitalism.

The new St. Valentine's Day massacre, in particular. Here we have a young man of 19. No real skills, perhaps poor education - like many of us Americanese, he simply aged into legal adulthood without the benefit of any preparation or experience. And his parents were dead, he was living with the parents of one of his friends from high school because with his conditions and the absolute state of real estate speculation in relation to wages, of course he couldn't find a place.

Realistically, I doubt he couldn't work. I doubt that he was incapable of working. Take a look at his shooting plan - better than many. Pulled the alarm to lure people, got 17 (higher than some), and then escaped by simply running out with the crowd. He knew they wouldn't recognize him. Security cameras got him - had he really wanted to, he probably could have gotten away with this. It's not the best plan ever but if he can do that, he can certainly turn a screw or hammer a nail or stock a shelf.

And to validate that diatribe, I looked it up just now - Cruz worked at Dollar Tree. So, I was wrong in my assumption - he wasn't entirely denied work, primarily just pay that could reasonably support his future any more than going back to school and killing 17 people could.

change.org/p/fred-upton-students-fighting-guns?recruiter=738169162&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=share_email_responsive

HEY sign this petition if you want to help end these shootings pl0x.

How about we all organize walk outs?

So how frequent is this going to get? I was in k-12 when columbine happened and never finished college but if I was in school today I don't know how id feel about the daily possibility of getting shot and killed just for trying to learn.

I can taste the liberal from here

no thanks fam

As an FLfag I know about Jereb, he is a fucking snake and not to be trusted.

could actually get a May 68 thing going very fast , if you start with a totally liberal form of protest that can hit critical mass, could completely disrupt everyday America. organize one or several (since you need someone in the schools probably, and many interested students) and then it'd have to catch on on its own to really be effective. organizing huge protests is beyond the capabilities of most, especially without means of mass communication. but kids hate school and should do this to save their own hides. polite sage for double post

t.pol

I am serious, albeit very tired so maybe not very sharp.

You mind telling me what you'd actually be protesting? Because walking out and just saying "Stop gun violence!" is ineffective if you don't have a solution, and if your solution is "Ban Guns!", you don't belong here.

???

It's a fake account.

Pick one.

It's a fake troll account, don't think too hard about the logic.

There has been 18 incidents since start of the year so about once in a week.

While we're on the discussion of guns what all do you guys got? Got a coworker selling an AR for $600 and I'm pretty tempted to scoop it up

Get off our dick euroslut.

Go ahead and do it, comrade.

The Fed's already monitor us.

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Let us take some more of our pent up frustration by rifling some foreigners. Are you volunteering? What country are you from?

you can get a basic AR for $450-500, even dirt cheap kits with 80% recievers get as low as $300. depends what options his comes with.

Uh.
An AR16 is not a real gun. A gun is not a hallow point, that is the cartidge and you can put any kind into a firearm, automatic weapons have been banned with the automatic firearms ban act. You are an idiot and not an anarchist.

Student suspected in Washington state school-shooting plot

abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/student-suspected-washington-state-school-shooting-plot-53098453

thanks for pointing out the obvious

Those collars are pretty cute, I think more boys and girls should start wearing them once we get socialism!

a refusal with no conscious object because it is total was my thought. A walkout really doesn't go far enough, but it could be nonviolent as long as it 'destitutes' the school as an institution. By this I mean discredits and undermines utterly and totally. A fantasy, I know.

i would unironically love to see an armed Holla Forums tranny militia demonstration

This is the point where lefitst should have purge.

that's actually a watch

with the tranny militia organizing it
:^)

Americans are der Untermensch! How did that fucking nationality manage to build 200+ military bases all over the globe to oppress us all?

Dead americans meh… But real people are dying.
youtube.com/watch?v=ejorQVy3m8E

I agree with many of your points and I'm a "nazi"
Now, why do you want america to become communist? Couldn't you just move to china if you wanted to live in a communist nation?
So why are reactionaries bad, if you see americas logistics as a weakness? reactionaries want america to be self sustainable again, so what gives?

I can smell the matzoh from here.

I bet it is depressing to be spoon feed statist propaganda your entire life. It was for me when I was in school learning about the holohoax.

Jesus christ it's like flies to honey

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Honestly it's constantly surprising with how myopic americans are these days. Talked to one recently that said he thanked capitalism for getting him out of homelessness, that it was a great meritocracy.

Universal Healthcare

I don't know if this is the best thread to post this but I found this conspiritard video showing that birth record searches for all the dead students bring up no results.

youtu.be/D2kgroSqwz0

I tried searching for a couple of those names myself (at SearchQuarry.com) and got similar (negative) results.

However, the thing I noticed is that those searches never found the records of anyone below 18 years of age, so would the reason for the lack of relevant results be simply that these searches exclude records of children?

Not that I exactly think that these commercial people search engines are the most reliable sources of information even for finding information about adults, but I can imagine all sorts of legal reasons why they quite likely exclude searches for children.

Hmm. People who want a communist revolution because North Korea is an absolute wonderland of free shit. Tell me more about how you hate all police because they are inherently racist and evil but want them to go around kicking everyone's doors in taking all of their guns so that only the police will be armed, so that you can be safe. 17 dead is a shame. Too bad that coach that gave his life to save his students wasn't armed. Of course 17 dead would be a really slow weekend in Chicago, the gun free zone. What about Mexico that enjoys one of the highest gun related murder rates in the world even though guns have been illegal there for a century? The UK is looking at outlawing knives… Really? Really. How about we just outlaw murder? We could put a really stiff penalty on killing people… How about something really bad like the death penalty or life imprisonment. Why hasn't anybody thought of that before? If we just outlaw murder then people wouldn't do it anymore right? Naah. We'll just take away everyone's right to have guns, or knives, or cars. Cars kill lots of people. More than guns. Wait!! Doctors kill a lot more people than any of those with medical mistakes every year! Ban all doctors! Hell, in the last century the leading cause of death according to the University of Hawaii was being killed by government (mainly communists Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Khmer Rouge, and the Nazis were also socialists) so let's ban governments especially communist ones. Diabetes kills lots of people so all sodas and sweets have to go! Being born ultimately leads to death so no more sex! I'm guessing most of you won't need to make any adjustments here. We'll get this worked out yet. In the mean time I encourage all of you worried sick about climate change to do your part and stop breathing.

–Regards–

what's with all the boomer shit today

What's with all the tit sucking little snowflake bullshit today.

Oh, my apologies, I didn't realize that this is your safe space. I'll stop punching you in the tits and go make America great again. Tell me how North Korea turns out for you. Hope they amputate one of your limbs with no anesthesia. Free health care at it's best. >insert mushroom cloud here

His dog probably has a command to rip someone's throat out.

A voluntary buyback program wouldn't hurt either, we need to get the surplus of guns down for gun violence to go down, an environment with guns means guns will be used when there's violent confrontation.

arm the workers, disarm the state
organize the people
use of force is something that needs to be decided on a collective level by organized workers at their place of work
we need Betriebskampfgruppen

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nah it's awesome we can kill people and you cant. the rest of the world is gay

Disarm the police and military and give all the guns to the prisoners and workers. There, the gun 'problem' is solved.

ur gay

that's besides the point and the message is purposefully retarded
what you should've taken notice of is

Shit I honestly hadnt noticed it

never change

Holla Forums does not support gun control.

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You know you could make your shitty post into a good post, if you elaborated and explained further.

Most rational people don't buy huge cakes just for themselves. Defending yourself with guns should not be compared to increasing your risk of getting diabetes

You realize the "founding fathers" allowed private citizens to own naval cannons, and conceal carry shit like pepperbox revolvers around, right? None of this is directly incompatible with our world view either.

…unless they are intentionally endorsing American decadency

I believe that tech has also seen some development since then.

In reality the its the most simplistic weapons that tends to see the most use. See anything made in the USSR, or the improvised shit made in Syria.

Can you at least read a wikipedia page about guns before act like you know shi

Okay, then come up with a better analogy for gun rights in US being eroded.

Go back to fucking reddit
Holla Forums Holla Forums is progun

You think you have any room to fucking talk nigel

You wanna talk shit??

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Wrong i’ve lived all my life in the us never seen this happen kick out age is 18 even then most parents still help with collage

Not an anarkiddy problem, more like liberal redditor who will be a dnc shill in 4 years

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Build your own from parts

What is that meme, did you false flag by accident?

I wonder how much longer it will be before one of these maniacs shoots up a maternity ward?

even public hospitals have armed security, also there's no point when they could shoot up an elementary school

This is why we roll over you with tanks

This. Let the right-wingers be stupid and kill each other. Even better, sell ancaps and posadists the recreational nukes they've always wanted.

You only laugh until the powered armor clad technocratic love squads come for you.

what's up with scrot these days. i get the same thing.

Am I alone in thinking that wouldn't be as bad as a school shooting? Like, babies are so young they don't have as much invested in them, and they haven't given as much to anyone else. An 8 year old can have hopes and dreams and fears, a teenager could be showing real potential with science or music or whatever. A baby's brain is so underdeveloped it can't even form memories properly. If you're baby dies you might lose a year or two, if you're kid dies you could be out a decade worth of work and emotional investment. I'm not saying it's okay to kill babies, just that I'd be a lot more saddened if an older kid dies.

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no, anarcho-user, this is the only way to teach the schools to give decent education, by shooting them up, its the only way america will ever learn

if you shoot up the bad schools, only the good will remain and reproduce.

if you shoot up a school they win