Two Muslim Scholars Created Alcohol (And Much of Chemistry) as we Understand It in 700's CE

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This article didn't say Jabir was muslim. Only a persian alchemist who worked for his caliph.

He was a Muslim.

History really is filled with ironies.

He was also, a polymath: a chemist and alchemist, astronomer and astrologer, engineer, geographer, philosopher, physicist, and pharmacist and physician.

His body of work is so large that as early as 1000 CE, the identity and exact corpus of works of Jabir was in dispute in Islamic circles

What's the point of this thread?

Excuse me where is the evidence for provings???

You don't just live in Persia, become born in Persia by Muslim parents, and end up not believing in Islam

lol no

Yeah unless you convert away from it

To convert you user. See, we muslims are pretty cool guys, eh?

Like Israel

He coined the term. And alcohol before that point, had little purity, distillation was not yet perfectly mastered, and it was hardly anything proof. It was more of a beverage than a serious intoxicant.

I made this thread for anons like this.

wtf i love muslims now

t. no one

This obviously means shariah is inherently communist! Ya Abu Dhar! Who needs diamat when you've got the Qur'an?

Most chemists probably would if they could thank who coined the term Alkali.

No it just means a Muslim made alcohol and created much of modern chemistry, I don't know what everyone is so upset about.

My post was pretty obviously sarcasm.

Yes but to what end :v)

hi where are the socialisms : DDD

Without Jabir there probably wouldn't be any chemical sciences to the points where the 20th century west could not create any nukes. Therefore he's unintentionally responsible for the cold war and nuclear weapons.

Go nuts.

holy kek, yeah, muslims were kangz and shit, and whitey stole their spaceship pyramid technology
alcohol was known to prehistoric peoples worldwide, nomadic people used to carry around grapes in leather bags, which fermented that way when exposed to sun
wasnt too long ago before everyone started setting fires under the grapes, trying to figure this thing out

islam is backwards and has nothing to offer to the modern world, muslims should be shot along with the liberals

Doubtful semetic user

Alcohol was never potent enough or distilled correctly enough up until the point where distilation technique from Jabir came into prominence in Europe around the 900's to 1000's CE that it was hardly "alcohol as you understand it", That's why I prefaced "as you understand it".

Alcohol before this time was a way to keep water purified mostly, there were no special universal intoxicating properties to it, as it was hardly 40 proof.

This thread is really just a trap to see how many of you still cling to identity politics.

It's true.

Go organise a rape gang subkike

The word "alkali" is derived from Arabic al qalīy (or alkali)

such developed
very science
much progressive

that region (persia, egypt) used to be scientific B E F O R E shitslam happened to it
there is absolutely no value in shitslam, every qoran should be burned, every muslim who ever heard about it shot in the head, and the whole unfortunate thing forgotten by whole humanity

The word "alcohol" is from the Arabic kohl (Arabic: ‎, translit. al-kuḥl), and it was used before that point to keep water from becoming too stagnant to drink.

Without the Near East I seriously doubt there would be a sophisticated Europe. That goes for before and after.

And no chemist will be praising allah, the pig fucker for it

Do you mean Muhammad? Allah is just the translation for God in Arabic.

In fact it's surprising that so few of you actually knew this and this test for how entrapped you were in identity politics came so swimmingly.

First post is rational post.
muslims like to take credit for things that had nothing to do with their religion.
Given that the title of the thread itself is clickbait and deliberately misleading, it follows that the contents is just as much so.
Strongly alcoholic fermented drinks have been around since prehistorical times, worldwide.
There even some animals that drink naturally fermenting plants to become drunk.

I don't really give a shit user. Just want to see you violent, slave owning fucks dead. Obama did good with those drone strikes.

the muslims saved the libraries of alexandria, by burning them down and then claiming that the discoveries of the greeks from a thousand years beforehand were their own
they also save history in modern times by blowing up ancient statues and various buildings and monuments that they don't agree with.
they are just as progressive as america, which is currently pulling down statues that they don't agree with

why should i give a fuck about the muslims today? goat rapists have nothing of value to offer to the modern world

pls behead some liberals tho, doubt any leftist is opening his gates for your disgusting, filthy, uncivilized kind

Distillation prior was mainly to keep water clean for creating beverages (eg.g not stagnant water), and it was also used for make up and cosmetic purposes.

The medieval Arabs used the distillation process extensively, and applied it to the distillation of alcohol. The Arab chemist Al-Kindi unambiguously described the distillation of wine in the 9th century

The process of distillation spread from the Middle East to Italy, where alcohol as it is understood to today, exploded in use across Europe. As did their advances in chemistry

How do you not know this. This is basic world history here

I'm not even OP, this is sad and pathetic

Are we talking Muslims or Americans.

Which is more immoral, a war that's killed more Muslims than Muslims have killed practically anyone in the Middle East, or the Muslims?

I'm curious.

Sam Harris please

Brainlet detected.

Don't drink or give a fuck about the history of a highly abused and addictive substance. Not knowing trivia isn't pathetic, using that fact to shame people is pathetic. Fuck of mohammad, typical tricks from religious fucks, especially sandkikes

Everyone sage and hide this shit.

Back up your claim nigger

yeah nah
muslims arent workers, they just go around raping children in their deserts, that is quite literally 100% of all activity that happens over there, theocratic child rape
that and tourist zones, only civilized bits over there, made by capitalists in return for oil exploitation

Not knowing where post Dark Ages Europe got their source for not only chemistry, but a large variety of Sciences is pretty stupid. It's hardly trivia, you're supposed to learn this in Grade school and how so many of you just apparently did not know leads me to believe most of the posters in this thread are either British or American 18-24

You're both disgusting and need to be wiped out

A mate of mine once said "go to get Pew to research what people think about the NHS, and they will come back that 34% of respondents support Sharia law". They are well known in the polling community for being fucking bad at their job.

Are we talking Muslims or Americans

Wait so you're in favor of Imperialism? I just want to make sure I'm getting this right

Not really user, I've a 5 year degree and a post grad, knowing that I don't know shit is smart, arguing otherwise is retarded. Dunning Krueger effect cleric, go fuck a goat and read the koran

As the OP of this thread I can say its purpose went absolutely perfect.

That's not very believable

Who would do that? Just go on the internet and tell lies?

How retarded would you need to be to believe this? People had been drinking alcohol for at least several hundred years before hamhead wrote his knockoff Judaism.

You're logic is fucked. That's the opposite of what I said you dense sandnigger

Go down

It is not the opposite of what you just said, actually

Damn this logic is stretched.
Also, did you not pay attention in school? The headline is SUPPOSED to captivate the reader. It's SUPPOSED to be "clickbait". Have you ever in your life read a newspaper?

I'm pretty sure you might have read what you said wrong

Eat shit nigger

It's not the opposite, but I clearly didn't say I was in favour of imperialism for wanting to see sandkikes and american imperialism wiped out.

sure thing sandkike

Mods can check my IP. I'm not the OP.

I didn't say you were OP

Shhh let them keep spouting the nonsense for all to see.

Then plenty of people here have a liberal mental disease, including you

Do you actually believe this?

It's hilarious

I mean at this point you're just starting to sound like baboon boy samefagging

Thank you mods.

This is a weird thread.

This is just misleading. Even in the BC times, nobody was drinking fermented grape juice to get pure water. You can get drunk off of rotten fruits ffs.

It still wasn't used in the same capacity as it was today. The only culture that achieved equivilant was the farther East, particularly China. Anything West of this did not have alcohol as "we" understand it until around the 12th century. The change happened in how much alcohol was leftover within the drink from the distilling process.

After all, alcohol is both an Arabic and English word.

As is Alchemy.

The word alchemy was borrowed from Old French alquemie, alkimie, taken from Medieval Latin alchymia, and which is in turn borrowed from Arabic al-kīmiyā’ (‎).

Chemistry was very much born in the Near East.