Hey, whatever floats your boat m8. I'm just saying that I know a lot of people from a lot of different backgrounds (many working class), and every one of them that knew who antifa were thought they were retarded. I don't know about you, but I'm not so autistic that I can't look at the world through the eyes of the average normalfaggot and understand how they're likely to respond.
Name one policy change antifa forced through.
They're the closest thing you've got to allies. At some point you're going to have to realize that your side is a minuscule fraction of the political world. Either you're going to have to make friends with people whose policies you don't 100% agree with, or you're going to remain irrelevant.
Not that the latter would surprise me. Leftists seem to have a history of splintering into a million different sub-ideologies that agree on most positions but disagree on some fringe point no one outside their echo chamber knows or cares about.
As it is, by torching liberal neighborhoods you're only alienating the one group that might be inclined to support you.
Well, then you're doing a fantastic job of that. What exactly is the point of any political organization, if not to support a set of policies and attempt to gain the power required to put those policies into practice?
I never said that, but now that you mention it, they are. Again, think about it from the perspective of the average normalfaggot. The "fasicsts" aren't the ones disrupting their lives. The "fascists" aren't the ones attacking anyone they consider to be their opponents. The "fascists" aren't the ones destroying the livelihoods of average people. It's antifa that's doing that. Meanwhile, for all the hot air antifa spews about the "fascists" eating children and kicking puppies, the average person has never been inconvenienced, nor had their livelihood affected by muh fascists.
The average person neither supports antifa nor the alt-right, but I'm telling you this: if antifa keeps acting the way they were in 2016, and if the average person is faced with a choice of who to support, they're going to support the alt-right. And you'll have no one but antifa to blame when they do.
??? what has all this got to do with Jim? I'm pointing out how antifa is an impotent organization. This has nothing to do with Jim, other than the fact that Jim is another person also pointing out that antifa is an impotent organization.
Again, the average person hasn't even seen a fascist in their life. The average person has never had their livelihood threatened by a fascist in their life. They may not self-identify with the term "fascist," but I guarantee you that if they have to choose between a group that is torching their towns and just about any other group that opposes the former, they're going to choose to support the group that isn't making their lives difficult.
You have groups. You organize protests. It sure will make things a lot more difficult when any antifa-related group is banned, or when any antifa-related protest or event ends immediately with everyone involved being arrested on felony charges.
You gotta be shitting me. You have public organizations and protest openly. The only time the police ever does jack shit is when you start breaking shit. I don't think you realize what it's actually like to have the authorities crack down on you. But if antifa continues to draw the public ire, I guarantee you're going to find out what happens once you cease to be "that weird group of college kids no one cares about" and become "that annoying group that's negatively affecting the average person's life" and the average joe decides they want you gone.
The problem is that, so long as any organization that wants to affect political change does not have the ability to do so via the second method I mentioned (the use of direct force), they have to care about their public image, because it is the wider public that determines political policy. If you're not going to beat the public into submission, you're going to have to make them like you, or at least see you as a better alternative than the other guy. And given that antifa neither has the ability to use force to attain power nor the positive public image to attain willing support, I'd say their options for affecting political change are rather thin on the ground.