Who are you backing in the ultimate ☭TANKIE☭ anti-revisionist showdown Holla Forums? Once again the question of China as actually existing socialism is tearing the two lovebirds apart. It's a sad sight tbh.
Phil Greaves vs RedKahina
Gavin Torres
Benjamin Cruz
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Thomas Collins
with his "logic" any liberal western social democracy that improved the living standard raised people from poverty and is actually socialism.
the only people he stands with are social democrats. he's not ML.
Oliver Brown
I don't understand why supposed leftists can't stand behind China. There are certainly problems within the state but to criticize from a lofty imperialist perspective is absolutely ridiculous.
that doesn't mean the greaves is my comrade tho
Bentley Lewis
need some kind of horseshoe theory meme where ☭TANKIE☭s and Neoliberals both support China's economic liberalisation while SocDems oppose it for being too right wing.
is he back from the Gulag yet?
Julian King
No he'll just be used as a cudgel in online spats for the next decade while he continues to be irrelevant
Grayson Cooper
Seriously, tell me if you see any difference.
Ian Scott
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Matthew James
Broke: co-ops will be the base of a future socialist society
Joke: co-ops offer no alternative to capital as they continue the process of generalized commodity production and simply democratize the firm
Woke: sweatshops are actually super good and communism is when you make just enough money to buy a microwave to heat up instant ramen before you help develop the material conditions for another 18 hour shift
Nolan Diaz
So if Angela Merkle changes literally nothing about the government or the economy but decided to start calling it "socialism with German characteristics" will Phill critically support her?
Luis Morales
You just a jelly traitor.
Blake Perry
New parody account idea: dril greaves
Ryder Wilson
I think RedKahina is being more reasonable. OP is a fag though.
Anthony Nguyen
I think it's surprising that almost the entire PG/RK clique is with Phil on this one. I would have expected more of them to side with Kahina; the only one I've seen do so is Cordeliers.
Was Hoxha a lofty imperialist as well? Did the Sino-Soviet split occur because both sides were lofty imperialists?
Lel
I don't agree with Phil here but that's unfair, I doubt he supports most of the European parties with "socialist" in their name.
Nathaniel Rodriguez
I have not seen this at all, most of them are still happily talking with RK as far as I can tell.
Blake Bailey
how is red kahina being a lofty imperialist
she's not calling for the dismemberment and colonisation of china
Charles Powell
Absolutely
Nolan Rodriguez
Never thought I would say this, but I'm supporting Molly Klein
MLM-Hoxhaism or whatever she does is much better than radical Marcyism
Ryder Peterson
I mean in terms of agreeing with her on this one issue
Juan Ramirez
Redkahina just answered! Holy shit, this is the debate of this century!
Justin Clark
Phil would argue that those states do it on the back of imperialism, whereas China is the most powerful anti-imperialist state in the world
Christian Murphy
I dunno fam, I'd like to dick some ☭TANKIE☭ twitter girls and bois
Owen Foster
the whole thing is odd
Adam Richardson
post hot ☭TANKIE☭ boys
Landon Young
it's two mentally ill contrarians in a slap fight. Of course it's odd.
Daniel Diaz
isn't krang an ex-madison avenue guy
Jack Davis
Cripple Fight
Ethan Young
what's a madison avenue guy? finance?
Leo Martinez
What's with people's infatuation with vapid e-celebs? No one gives a shit about what this guy thinks or believes.
Bentley Morris
Mark Fisher was right about left-twitter. They need to be purged.
Ayden Hill
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William Jones
Nah I'd pay per view a match between the too. Let hem duke it out in the ring.
Jacob Ramirez
Fuck mods
Gavin Myers
Just kidding
Caleb Ward
lmao have you seen ☭TANKIE☭s talk about NK or Syria? You can remove "socialism" from everything and they'll still support you
Jaxon Bailey
who
Isaiah Davis
Mark Fisher
Daniel Cook
NK is socialist and Syria is worthy of support in the face of imperial aggression even if it isn't a socialist state (and at least they have a few actual communists in government even if the Baathists are non-communist nationalists).
Cooper White
literally who
Jose Jackson
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Anthony Fisher
The guy you're responding to is trying to be snarky as a sign of dismissal/derision, just FYI
Henry Martinez
Talking about it on the internet isnt support
Joseph Roberts
counterpropaganda is a form of support.
Luke Thompson
no it isnt
you have zero impact on Syria success
stop deluding yourself
Brandon Butler
RedKahina is good
Oliver Walker
Projection at its finest.
Matthew Sanchez
looool
Carson Phillips
A real communist movement that stood in solidarity with countries under imperialist assault would have an impact. Of course individuals have "zero impact" in most cases, regardless of what they do. You are opportunist scum if you think otherwise.
Elijah Sanders
kahina doesn't
Gabriel Allen
Kahina says China is better than e.g. the US but still not meaningfully socialist.
Landon White
Where the fuck has North Korea removed socialism?
Oliver Parker
small brain: cuba is socialist
moderate brain: dprk is socialist
galaxy brain: syria is socialist
Samuel Turner
Syria, Cuba, and DPRK are all socialist.
Anthony Walker
DPKR doesn't even claim to be socialist.
Isaiah Thompson
explain how syria is socialist
ba'athism is not the same as marxism leninism
Isaiah Hill
it does tho you fucking retard
and it is
is he retarded? legitimatelly retarded?
is he so butthurt over China not being socialist and having allowed the national bourgeoisie into the workers party that raped Mao, himself a revisionist twat, further to death that he starts shitting on actual ML when it shits on his "market socialism"?
there is no need for newly defining socialism, yes "real movement" and so on, but how is china part of that "real movement" when it is continuously stepping out of line and contradicts ML, that describes this very movement, with it's "market socialism"?
Caleb Green
nevermind, just read through his rantings, this fuckwit is a third worldist roo-kinda retard that takes issues with Marxism Leninism and not shitting on the "first world" working class while attacking the SU as "imperialist" like the maotist he is and then having the nerves to talk about its revisionism
he should really kill himself
Carter Sullivan
They do. Read their constitution.
en.m.wikisource.org
multiverse brain: belarus is socialist
stalinsmoustache.org
Xavier Wilson
except he's explicitly against third worldism
Jayden Lewis
Both of these users suck.
Isaiah Morgan
Weird twitter is awful when they aren't tormenting Holla Forumstards.
Ayden Allen
nah
Nolan Smith
RK and PG hate weird twitter.
Cooper Murphy
Wait a minute, hold up.
RedKahina isn't a chick? Or am I thinking of someone else
Christopher Hernandez
you're thinking of yourself gaybo
Luke Long
She is a she
Michael Ramirez
Levi Stewart
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