"This would not be happening if the same situation occurred with other relationships: Older male, younger female: The male would be prosecuted with very little criticism. Older female, younger male: There would be arguments that it’s not the same thing as the other way around making a double-standard, but she would be prosecuted all the same. 2 male homosexual relationship: I think there wouldn’t be much outrage., it would be seen as a clear-cut case of taking advantage of a younger person. (Whether this is true or not is another matter.)"
lmao another mautist turns out to be a sexual predator.
Jace Smith
Unruhe is of lower intelligence like a lot of pedos so this isn't surprising.
Mason Johnson
why are maoists and trots so rapey?
Gavin Perez
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Jason Garcia
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Logan Long
Sam Kriss isn't a Maoist. He's just a stupid Lacanian PoMo weirdo.
Liam Flores
The majority of those people aren't actually pedos and even if you do consider them to be that society would be better off without them so your image is still shit.
Jose Powell
What the fuck are you talking about? Most of them are confirmed.
Jaxon King
All of those thighfucking faggots would have like 40 Autism Level if they were tested today. The world would have been better off without them.
Levi Peterson
I never said Sam Kriss was a maoist. i was refering to maoist and trotskyist orgs like the RCP and the SWP being hangouts for sex criminals.
Jason Thompson
Disappointing tbh famalam
Kayden Thompson
The United States will charge you as an adult in a court of law under the logic of “this individual could only be capable of doing what they’ve done if they had ability of to make adult decisions in the first place; therefore the person was acting as an adult in said context”. Now explain to me why this idea is absent in every other facet of life in modern society. It’s as if the state apparatus views it as “we don’t know who under the age of 18, is capable of acting as an adult until they do so, then we can act”. When I was 16, if I chose to have sex with somebody that was 20, why should they face punishments under the guise that I was victim by default because I was incapable of making the choice, even though it clearly was my choice?
Hunter Miller
Do elaborate pls. I had no idea Bob Cult was also a sex cult.
Aiden Martin
I remember Jason used to show off his Hannah Montana DVD collection back in the day on BlogTV. *shivers*
Brandon Bell
AoC laws are different in Canada.
Nathan Smith
"The question that should be asked here, what can be criticized is the age of consent. Is the age of consent law fair? Is it a true reflection of our values in society? The problem here is the age of consent law, not homosexual rights, because the age of consent equally applies to heterosexual people. I believe there should be some alterations to the age of consent law, that is what should be discussed here, not perceived discrimination based on sexual orientation."
This is fucking disgusting, Jason.
Cameron Carter
I thought autistic screeching over the age of consent was supposed to be for AnCaps
Aaron Sanders
Jason? Is that you?
Jose Perry
When it comes to the Greeks wasn't the life expectancy like 30?
Hudson Jenkins
No, it's a myth that people back in the day died young. 70 was considered a good long life.
Wyatt Brooks
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Ryan Collins
Whaddya know, a ☭TANKIE☭ Mautist defending child marriage.
Hudson Bailey
Don't try character assassinations before archiving everything you fags.
life expectancy was low because lots of people died in childhood. if you made it past 15 you could expect to live until 60ish
Kayden Rodriguez
Thanks.
William Walker
"I believe there should be some alterations to the age of consent law."
- Jason "Hold Her Tighter - She's A Fighter!" Unruhe
David Jackson
I don't care about this as an issue personally, but nearly everyone abandons rational argument in favor of moral opprobrium as soon as the topic comes up.
Age of consent is an obvious social/legal construct, and this should at least be recognized by the left. I may feel personally disgusted by pedophilia, but leaving it at "disgust" seems like a disservice to thought. Mere disgust isn't a substitute for rationally addressing the topic, and cries of evil for even talking about it as such a construct hardly suffice as real discussion.
This sort of legal policy isn't helpful - and the AoC is pretty worthless if we just hold it as some sacred fundamental truth and ignore the reasons we'd set it at a certain age as opposed to another to begin with.
That said, I think AoC is used to target fags. I think there's a disproportionate amount of entrapment activities directed towards ze gays - on top of gay relationships with age disparities being singled out more. Like the Greek pederasts who've been mentioned, here - people forget that the range for the younger partner in classical pederastic relationships tended to be between like 12 and 20 depending on the culture. This was also the common age for a younger female partner at the time - the straight relationships exhibited similar age disparities to the pederastic ones, and minus the gay version this trend basically continued in Europe with only a very slow decline until the 20th century. Pederasty has a primarily semantic link to pedophilia, the source of much confusion - but unless you set the AoC above 21 and/or ban gay sex, pederasty will technically be legal.
I can glance at it and immediately see several who aren't - Oscar Wilde, Allen Ginsberg, Satre and de Beauvoir (fucked with students, but not elementary schoolkids)… and I suspect that many of the rest are dubious, too.
Cameron Robinson
I think, or hope, you're kidding, but, just as an example, we're able to address race realism rationally even though we think it's disgusting as a view. Addressing something rationally isn't approving of it but having some kind of response beyond disgust to it, otherwise we're simply repeating our culturally conditioned reactions - which is to say contemporary norms and mores that may or may not have anything to do with the left.
I haven't watched the video and don't care to anyway, but there should be some rational response to it and not just loathing.
Adam Bell
Yeah the world would be better off without them. The only good people on that list is Shakespeare and Leonardo Da Vivci. I have no fucking idea who the rest are. Also no wonder why pedos like Foucault.
Ryder Wood
Jason should join the Sparts. He'd be right at home.
Thomas Anderson
Weren't they gay pedos tho?
Blake Foster
Eh, Marx was heavily influenced by Aristotle, so erasing him from history would be unwise. Plus it would have taken a few more centuries for biology to become a thing without Aristotle.
Jaxon Miller
Projecting much, Jason?
Leo Ward
Oscar Wilde would be, I'm fairly sure, by the modern definition of "pedophilia," although you're right that he was strictly speaking a pederast.
Brayden Jenkins
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Logan Hall
Am I supposed to believe that the moral denunciation here is authentic? You don’t have to be ancap gang to question the moral hysteria going on right now. And like you said Unruhe actually seems right here.
WSWS and MIM are actually right the purpose of creating an atmosphere of sexual paranoia as well as sex laws that can easily be abused is to leave the option open of slandering and destroying the leaders of popular working class movements that have the potential to challenge the system. Putting someone’s sexual history or writings on sex under a microscope and/or spreading slander, false accusations or entrapping them is pretty much the oldest trick in the book for how to socially destroy your enemies.
Christian Turner
Hey I have a brilliant idea for how leftists can avoid this devious trap. HOW ABOUT YOU STOP FUCKING LITTLE KIDS YOU PEDO.
Jace Turner
Even if you don't they'll just say you did anyway. A 17 year old isn't a little kid you fucking moralist.
Aiden Peterson
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Elijah King
Not that it matters at all but I’ve never had sex with anyone two years younger then me and I wasn’t sexually active till I was 16. So I’m definitely not a “pedo” I’m just pointing out the obvious inconsistencies and McCarythist atmosphere here.
This pretty much.
Ian Brown
*more then two
Henry Thomas
Any proof for this?
Cameron Watson
Anti-pedophilia will break down once the grand spooks of the nuclear family, innocence, and other memes die along with capitalism.
Blake Scott
I don't see what the big deal is here, the AoC is 15 here in Sweden.
Ayden Sanders
Family bonds will be strengthened under socialism. The extended family is the most efficient and organic form of human organization.
Jason Morris
how does acknowledging that an arrest occurred for the age difference and not the same sex issue = pedo?
Nathan Davis
are you retarded? he was clearly referring to the average life span being like 35 or slightly longer and how they have children younger
Adrian Lewis
are you retarded he was 29 and she was like 25, how is that creepy old man?
Austin Turner
Think know who OP is: Aidan Acquaire
Caleb Young
the only one here projecting is you pedo.
Isaac Baker
How are you a "pedo" for stating that age of consent still applies to homosexual relationships?
Sebastian Carter
This makes me think: before it split the old MIM (whose members later went over to form LLCO) had this line about aoc and sex criminals. I think they wanted the age of consent lowered to 13 and their founder referred to it as "the magic age line"
I wonder if LLCO took a similar line. Is Jason still with them?
Julian Phillips
This is not something leftists should concern themselves with, outside of instances where it is used unfairly to directly target comrades.
Camden Thomas
Because if we didnt then we would have to allow 16 year olds who arent mature enough to get taken advantage of.
It's just easier that way. We decided 18 was an appropriate number and stuck with it. And where is the line exactly? Because humans have had ranges as wide as "if she can have a period she can fuck" to "only educated mature mentally sound adults can have sex."
Carson Clark
How many 15 year olds have you had sex with user?
Noah Roberts
Untrue. The socialist family will serve socialism. The entire idea of a family being about "love" is an entirely bourgeois/first world thing.
Brandon Mitchell
Do you want me to know how I know you're an anglo?
Wyatt Jones
Jason's entire argument is that the age of consent for homosexuals should be the same as the age of consent for heterosexuals. He's not talking about lowering it in general.
Way to take this way out of proportion.
Blake Rodriguez
Former LLCO cadre. LLCO had no such line. The general atmosphere in the org was that Pedos are scum.