The history of Irish Socialism

It all started life here in the late 1800s.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_Socialist_Republican_Party

This party was small, however it's members were very influential and went onto to do great things.

They formed a Socialist Worker's Union (the most prominent Union in Ireland today).
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_Transport_and_General_Workers'_Union

This Union went on to stage the 1913 Lockout, a very important event in Irish history with their own paramilitary.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dublin_lock-out

This Socialist Worker's Union expanded further with their own paramilitary called the Irish Citizen's Amy.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_Citizen_Army

This paramilitary was the major component staging the Easter Rising. This is the event which primarily resulted in the War of Independence.

The Socialists overwhelmingly won the election of 1918
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_general_election,_1918#Results

However, upon independence there was a split.
This resulted in the Republican Centrist party of Fianna Fáil and the subsequent Fine Gael (they flirted with Fascism in the 30s and later cooled down into a lite-Tory party).

During the subsequent decades, Socialist Activity experienced a decline. Until…

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Upon Partition, the Northern Nationalist crowd remained somewhat quiet. The only activity was the Border Campaign, which was largely unsuccessful.
The upburst of Socialist activity began with the NI Civil Rights Association in the late 1960s , based largely on the Civil Rights Movement in the USA.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Ireland_Civil_Rights_Association

They protested peacefully, but were met with violence by both the Police and Loyalist Paramilitaries - culminating in this tragic event
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloody_Sunday_(1969)

After this, the IRA was back and very active again. However, there was a split in ideology.
The leadership were largely Marxist, and those who turned away had their own Socialist ideology. They explain it in their own words here.
poblachtach.wordpress.com/2017/08/17/where-sinn-fein-stands-1970/

They branched off into the Official IRA (Marxist) and the Provisional IRA (non-Marxist Socialist).
The Officials made a very informative pamphlet here.
cedarlounge.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/iir.pdf

At first, The Marxist OIRA was more successful. This is exemplified by their results in the election of 1989, when they became known as the Worker's Party.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_general_election,_1989#Results

Unfortunately, this party collapsed after the folding of the USSR and Irish Socialism was largely dead through the 1990s (with the exception of certain characters of Joe Higgins).

However, Irish Socialism has been building in Electoral popularity since the late 90s and has been growing in each election.

Sinn Féin have been siphoning support from the SDLP for a good 20 years, and recent LudicTalk polls suggest this trend is continuing. In the Republic, they have experienced around a 4% growth rate per election (with the exception of 2007) and the trend is expected to continue.

I am a member of Solidarity-People Before Profit, a Trot party. We are likely to experience a congruent rise in votes in the next election.
The root of my thread is, we are doing quite well.

thanks doc!

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COME OUT YE BLACK AN TANS
AN FIGHT ME LIKE A MAN

The wheels are still in motion.
Irish Socialists are in the process of completing the work of Connolly.
In a few decades, all will become clear.

We support Irish socialists in their quest for a united republic and a socialist state. Hopefully their efforts will create the path of right for the people of ireland to follow.

Based Juche. Our Minister of State (Who is a Marxist-Leninist, and used to be a member of the Worker's Party) wants to extend Irish friendship to North Korea.

rte.ie/news/politics/2017/1103/917218-halligan-korea/

I personally prefer this Republican song

youtube.com/watch?v=Rb9m2IU46Tc

One famine wasn't enough

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redpill me on the british and irish communist organisation

TELL YOUR WIFE HOW YOU WON MEDALS DOWN IN FLANDERS

You mean these cunts? I hate them.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_and_Irish_Communist_Organisation

They had the wrong opinions on essentially every matter, from militancy to Nationalism to Israel and beyond. I consider them to be an embarrassing stain on this history of Irish Marxism.


*shivers eternally*

provos were nearly all religious nationalist thugs

delusional revisionism to try and paint them as left wing
nothing leftist about executing bus loads of people for following a different religion

Fellow PBP user here.
Looking to set up meetings in Athlone

Hello comrade, I remember you posting in another thread. I'm not sure what your chances are, considering how Athlone is a relatively small town broken in two by the Local Councils.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westmeath_County_Council_election,_2014#Athlone
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roscommon_County_Council_election,_2014#Athlone

Both LEAs seem to largely align among rural voters, not even SF or Labour are particularly successful. S-PBP largely only succeed in areas with a high concentration of Urban Working Class.

I live in Dublin-South Central, my area is represented by PBP both in the Dáil and the City Council
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dublin_South-Central_(Dáil_Éireann_constituency)#2016_general_election
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dublin_City_Council_election,_2014#Ballyfermot-Drimnagh

Whilst your intentions of organisation in Athlone are admirable, perhaps your skills would be better equipped in areas where PBP have not run a candidate but are likely to succeed. For example-

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dublin_City_Council_election,_2014#North_Inner_City
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Dublin_County_Council_election,_2014#Templeogue-Terenure
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cork_City_Council_election,_2014#Cork_City_North_East

Up the North, there are so many Urban regions of the Local Councils that have S-PBP potential that I wont link them all.

I just feel that towns like Athlone do not have much potential for the advancement of the Party, and you would be better off moving to areas where you can utilise such potential.

My friend, thank you for the intelligent input.
I realise my chances here in Athlone are quite slim, seeing as Roscommon and Westmeath often prove themselves to be hardline conservative/pro-capitalist territory. While you are correct in asserting my skills would be better equipped in more popular urban areas such as Dublin or Cork, I am grounded here in Athlone, and have been given the task of organising group meetings in Westmeath. It all has to start somewhere.

Do you feel that the advancement of the party in these other areas would effectively radiate out to the midlands?
Speaking in terms of effectiveness, I worry that such movements to the city would serve only to consolidate FF/FG control of the midlands.

I didn't know that. That's a big undertaking, you should stay then.


On a realistic level? Not really.
However, there are a few examples of Irish Socialists gaining seats in rural areas over the past few decades. It is possible.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seamus_Costello
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Sherlock
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Séamus_Healy
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Declan_Bree

Use these men as inspiration.
The fact that you have been designated Westmeath (as opposed to Longford) is quite interesting, as this area is still a Labour stronghold. SF have not taken over yet.

I have a theory as to why Labour retained their Longford-Westmeath seat, it is because the Urban Working Class of Mullingar and Athlone are quite small and isolated from each other (comparable to constituencies such as Wexford and Kildare North). These Labour voters are also quite old, so are somewhat stuck in their ways.

It is quite likely that Willie Penrose will be kicked out of the Dáil by SF in the 2021 Election, and so there is decent potential to usurp Labour's remaining voters for the benefit of PBP.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westmeath_County_Council_election,_2014#Results_by_Electoral_Area

All of these LEAs contain a strong portion of the Urban Working Class, so there is ample room for growth.

Pic related - PBP just started organising in Donegal.
I lived in Letterkenny for four years, and I feel like they can win a Local seat there. Combine that with potential support from Buncrana/ Stranorlar-Ballybofey, along with siphoning off some support from Thomas Pringle in the south of the County, they have some potential there too.

PBP do have some potential in rural areas - it's just a large uphill struggle.

Y'all missed the best one
youtube.com/watch?v=rSvUjTOeoRs

I like the instrumentation, however the singer makes me wince (as does the gaudy band logo). This is a superior rendition of the song.

youtube.com/watch?v=xa566QvOpWE