Dunno if this has been discussed yet on Holla Forums, but I really wonder how a Trump VS Oprah election would turn out.
I know very little about Oprah's politics outside of her feminist advocacy, but unless she plans to take on actors such as the big banks, the foreign policy/Israel lobby and the fossil fuel companies, it'll just be a rehash of the 2016 election.
The right will always have an advantage considering the right can take the hit, while the liberals will cower every times some SJWs whine about some stupid shit.
Austin Young
I don't like this timeline.
Adrian Baker
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Noah Martinez
This timeline just keeps getting weirder.
Jacob Jenkins
Didn’t happen with Clinton. That’s what happens when social justice groups and lefties try Democratic Party entryism. They just become tools of the party.
Cooper Cox
Because Clinton owns the SJWs.
Clinton is one scary family, not something to be fucked with.
Bentley Gomez
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Bentley Nguyen
True believers are silenced, yeah. The unions were remdered impotent by the Democratic Party, though.
Thomas Morales
*rendered
Brandon Morales
It's more like the unions are paid by the dems so union members should vote dems.
Parker Long
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Xavier Flores
Let me off
Bentley Reed
But they don’t.
Bentley Powell
Let the Dems run her, rig another primary, then lose and wonder how the fuck it happened.
I just hope Bernie, Dore, DeVito, fucking Gabbard if it comes to it, runs a leftwing alternative. Even if it is socdem, it will push the dialectic in the US.
Michael Taylor
Okay what else happened in Boondocks? Bob Ross gangster was one, and MLK is alive or something? Someone post every dumbass thing in Bookdocks please
Leo Mitchell
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Thomas Perez
Fucking Liberals.
Robert Adams
So this is the power of black capitalism?
Jacob Bell
How about this >bernie gets sacked again
Isaac Watson
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Matthew Richardson
I honestly hope this "movement for a people's party" bollocks gets off the ground, a third party Bernie campaign would be dank.
Cameron Ward
You know it in your heart, user. There is only one Party.
Jaxon Gray
Do it faggot. Lets see how much america can last with the literal spectacle at its head
Adam Bailey
Every party has small beginnings, every communist party started off as a social democratic one…
Dominic Torres
am I missing anyone?
Evan Green
Jimmy Dore and Danny DeVito
Ian Diaz
Zuck vs Oprah
Oh boy I can't wait
Ryder Collins
Except for the ones that were started after the split between communists and social democrats
Adrian Gomez
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Thomas Long
the primaries are going to be a shitshow of epic proportions.
Bernie booker gabbard biden castro cuomo harris Gillibrand the rock oprah bob iger mark zuckerberg mark cuban kanye
Hunter Gonzalez
Oh shit yeah, Kanye.
Landon Cruz
1) Bullshit. 2) You are also mistaken in believing that pre-ComIntern naming convention was the same as current. At the time perfectly revolutionary parties were also called SocDem. It was WWI (through consequent betrayal of Kautsky and others) that made Social Democracy denote centrist position. 3) You also missed my point: Bourgeois Parliamentarianism doesn't work.
yes it was a Gosha Rubchinskiy (Гоша Рубчинский) hoodie.
also yes
Blake Johnson
I don't think so. Liberals don't need/want to be interested in things beyond idpol and maybe climate change. Dems will win 2020 regardless
Elijah Parker
actually I'm wrong. it was a Vetements hoodie not gosha. Their founder/creative director is Georgian which probably explains it.
Jace Ross
Eh tbh, Kanye strikes me as a populist who can see a lot of the problems in society, but has no fucking idea how to fix them so he just continues on his merry way.
Nathaniel Powell
American Politics is officially a reality tv show So when is Gabe Newell running for president?
Carson Garcia
the ride never ends
Carter Murphy
He can also be convinced, if we surround him with the right people something real could change. The guy is well aware of exploitation, he's aware that unlike other workers, he could actually sue his record company over bullshit they were trying to pull.
Thomas White
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Jaxon Nguyen
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Owen King
those are posadists
Ryan Hernandez
I want one of the descendants of Rockefeller or Carnegie that still have the last name to run for president so we can see an even bigger shit show for American politics and maybe have Porky fighting Porky
Lincoln Sanders
Fuck that, Wyatt Koch should run for president
Cameron Murphy
Trump would have trade protectionism under his belt, Oprah would have *maybe* the same lukewarm liberal stances Kamela Harris (D-CA, also a black woman) would have. Dems would loose everything other than California, Illinois, New York and Massachusetts. I'd be a bloodbath.
And for that reason it won't happen. If Dems decide to run any sort of nonwhite it's going to be Castro (D-TX) or Booker (D-NJ).
Brayden Stewart
I didn't know a Cuban communist was allowed to run for President in the US
The basic idea is that he's be capable of sparking the "coalition of the ascendant" of rich whites, hispanics and blacks into a Dem 2020 sweep. Dems would actually try it since they seriously think they can strike lighting twice and that rich whites aren't going to be wooed by the tax cuts they are being served by Trump.
And you thought collapse wasn't a thing. Zuckerberg, Oprah, Michelle, the Democrat party candidates. This is what collapse looks like. And i can't wait for Oprah to win.
Gavin Brooks
i didn't expect to see idiocracy in my life time, at least not that soon.
Isaiah Allen
All he's done so far is tax breaks for the rich and more drilling. Simply making noises doesn't put food on people's plates.
Xavier Hernandez
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Dominic Brooks
The oples have it coming.
Sebastian Ramirez
I have some insider info on why he’s a non-starter.
Andrew Moore
I'm surprised it didn't happen sooner, US politics have been total popularity contests for figureheads for a long time now. It makes sense to run already famous people when you don't really want them to do anything anyways.
Liam Campbell
Oh? Do tell, user.
Jayden Richardson
Reminder it's the duty of every American comrade to build dual power
Isaac Turner
Idiocracy advocates eugenics and in itself is a movie for idiots, stop praising it as some sort of prophecy.
Aiden Evans
He’s a notorious womanizer who slides into younger (18-21) women’s Twitter DM’s. He also tried to fuck nearly every woman who he works with. Amongst other things.
Tyler Morris
looks like she gets the conservative vote
Jason Anderson
Bingo.
Carson Sanchez
Topkek, with friends like that Bernie could actually win.
Xavier Taylor
The National Review crowd and David Frum have already been embraced by the hashtag resistance. Get ready for a full neocon takeover of the Democratic Party in 2019.
Third party is the only option now.
Justin Jenkins
His Section 232 reviews wrap up in March and per the NAFTA renegotiation he will probably please Mexico by banning non-NA car parts from America. It is happening and it's timed to produce results right before an election.
Alexander Murphy
Side note, Aaron McGruder is a comrade that throws a lot of references to Marxism/Marxists in his comic.
Robert Martinez
It’s like they want to make Thomas Frank as mad as possible.
Zachary Baker
If they do this nazbol will no longer be a meme.
Grayson Rodriguez
Jesus fucking christ the nightmare won't end
Grayson Williams
The union leaders do vote dems and urge their voters to vote dems.
Unless it's the cop union.
Parker Carter
At some point during the election campaign, it crossed my mind that Trump might open the floodgates for any celebrity to go for political offices. They're both uninformed and egomaniacal, so they're pretty much politicians already, really. Which reminded me that the Ancient Athenian democracy largely forsook elections as they boiled down to popularity contests, and prefered sortition instead. We can't say we haven't been warned.
And it looks like the trend might spread to Brazil too. The presenter of a Sábado Gigante-like show aimed at young audiences in the most popular TV channel has been constantly hinting at, and waffling on, a possible candidacy. For the main rightwing party, of course, the social-democrats. Yes. You know that kind of petty-bougie kid who, thanks exactly to their age, has completely internalized the notion of capitalism as the one and only possible course, that There Is No Alternative, that we should stay firm on the path and just tweak a bit as needed etc.? And related to that, that they're an ideological and intellectual void, and think politics is just a matter of preserving the status quo? He's the epitome of that. It doesn't help that he has that babyface that only rich people can have and he's jewish.
Honorable mentions to the Predator crew.
Nice dig by NME magazine, by the way.
Evan King
I've long suspected this too. Wouldn't be surprised if them loud mouthed "Black Lives Matter" bitches that interrupted Bernie Sanders' speech in 2016 were on the Clinton payroll to steer the black vote away from him towards Clinton.
America is just going to get one liberal empty suit after another aren't we?
Daily reminder non-direct democracy is inherently reactionary.
Christian Clark
Yes.
Jayden Lopez
Trump will be gone before 2020, assuming dems take over congress in 2018 (which they likely will). Pence will be the one to beat, not Trump.
Jace Carter
Pence has zero charisma, Trump's base will likely drop out of politics altogether when Trump falls or they'll start an armed fascist uprising.
Hudson James
At least half of them are boomers and evangelicals I seriously doubt they'd do an uprising
Brayden James
It's the Holla Forums kids I'm worried about, especially in states with no gun control. They're more than capable of carrying IRA style attacks on the state and UDA thuggery on the streets.
Carter Peterson
Sounds like fun.
Benjamin Thomas
it should be Unions doing that, not 1488 boyos.
Bentley Myers
Do not underestimate the incompetence of the Democratic Party. They have done nothing to strengthen the state parties in the historically blue states Trump won.
Grayson Edwards
they fully expect to take the executive branch, I don't think they can really recover if they under perform in 2020. This might be the seed of an America under a one party state, that party being the Republicans.
Christian Wright
Well hopefully if the Dems die hen the Greens will replace them. And even if America becomes a one party state it’ll force people to wake up the the reality that bougieous democracy is shit.
Benjamin Morales
The greens need to get more radical if they're ever hoping to overtake the dems.
Henry Howard
Any war against the state is better than no war against the state.
Day by day the Greens grow more radical.
Connor Perry
That's a gay movement
Henry Murphy
Daily reminder that Oprah supported the iraq war
What is there to be worried about? 95% of them are edgy larpers who wouldn't do anything,
Jaxon Hernandez
Oh this again… Kill this with fire!
Jaxson Sullivan
5% of Holla Forums is more than enough manpower to start a terrorist organization.
Zachary Sanchez
CHECK EM!
Jace Torres
Somehow Oprah found a way to be more insipid than Nietzsche's Last Man.
Jayden Peterson
I mean, i get where she is coming from about the whole "help yourslef so you can help others" thing. I've never met anarchists capable of building shit for precisely this reason. Most of them refuse any good advice if not actively reject it, so they always keep the company of stupid crust punk junkies and basically cater to the lowest common denominator in their immediate friend group.
I agree with that in concept, but she has so much wealth, enough to materially impact people's lives to the point where she sounds retarded. Give 49 of your 50 shoe pairs away, keep one for yourself. Don't be a bourgeois cunt.
Hudson Hall
i honestly don't think they will. they are in such disarray, and it is so easy to take power, but they will fuck it up, and we will have 4 more years of trump. calling it now. i hate the dems anyways and don't fucking care who wins, but i definitely don't want more trump… but i don't want dems either. it's gonna be a shit show regardless
Isaiah Morgan
It what sense? "SJW" is such a vacuous term to begin with. Who specifically are you talking about?
Luis Harris
What we need to do is find that 5% infiltrate them. And try to get them to stop bombing random brown people and get them to start targeting our enemies. State, rich people, etc. This will harm both sides in such violence and strengthen our position.
We're living in the timeline where satire becomes reality. Obviously the solution is to write a bunch of "dystopian" science fiction about communism "ruining" everything, so it gets memed into reality.
John Myers
This is Holla Forums we're talking about. Come on now.
Jeremiah Adams
KEK
Aiden Brooks
God sure has a twisted sense of humor.
Gabriel Smith
The far-right in America is bigger than just Holla Forums
Juan James
He was specifically talking about Holla Forums kiddies though.
Jeremiah Smith
Huey is fucking legit.
Jayden Kelly
He's named after Huey Newton.
Joshua Gray
King wasn't even actually alive in the canon. The episode ends with Huey saying "It's fun to dream." The whole thing was a what-if. You want real dumb stuff look at the anime shit.
It's a shame they got rid of Caesar as the liberal one and combined Huey's old (radical) version with Caesar to make a less offensive protagonist. They even reference this in the show when they refer to Huey as an "former radical" and shit. Pic related.
Blake Sullivan
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Aaron Morales
fixed
Asher Gomez
It's about exposure, not the process.
Colton Thomas
Having an armed wing of the party and a parliamentary wing works fam, multiple avenues of action forces is a proven method.
Asher Wood
I miss Aaron and the boondocks in general. One of my favorite moments was this with Ann Coulter and rev al sharpton. Just think about what he could do with the ammo the current climate provides.
Kayden Murphy
At the end of the day all TRUE leftists should support this even if shes just a Neo-Lib The idea that women cant handle politics (With the idea that women cant be president being strengthened since clintons lose) is one of the biggest gender norms that exist within our society as of this time
Jaxson Butler
nope, no liberals allowed, cue the Rosa quote about reactionary upper class "feminists"
Isaac Nguyen
Reality has transcended parody IMO. How the fuck do you exaggerate Trump or the contemporary press without just being cartoonishly silly? Fire and Fury alleges Trump floated the idea of Medicare for all in one of his meetings, legitimately not knowing why he wouldn't be allowed to do that. How the fuck do you make fun of that? The facts themselves are already in the realm of parody.
1/10 you tried
Connor Thomas
comedy itself is superfluous now. reality is broken and America is just a hostile cartoon land.
Brody Foster
IT WAS REAL?!
Joshua Phillips
They could pick on liberals more
John Diaz
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Kevin Smith
Blosheviks did it
Parker Sullivan
Yeah… *Bolsheviks stand in elections* …what kind of idiot… *Rosa stands in elections* …thinks parliamentary elections… *PCI stands in elections* …could ever held in organising… *The SKJ stands in elections* …the proletariat!
But you're right, we should all relegate ourselves to extra parliamentary action, it has such a great history in bourgeois democracies of working!
Oples, noun; plural: oples. A person who behaves anti-socially because his vast amount of wealth (probably inherited) turned him into a bully with an inflated ego. The term was popularized by a movement advocating for physical harm against oples, the "Movement for Rape Oples Party". A: Man, that billionaire on TV is such an oples. B: I know, thankfully there's a movement out there to rape them. A: Really, what's it called. B: check out www.movementforapeoplesparty.com oples, billionaire, rape oples, movement for rape oples
Henry Ward
I kek'ed.
Juan Sullivan
Don't just keke, add it too and link it back here so we can upboat.
Daniel Kelly
The US political scene is officially a sitcom now
Brody Powell
People worshiping celebrities mindlessly again. My parents are democrat shills and it's infuriating.
Jackson Anderson
I know there’s no ethical consumption under capitalism, but I wouldn’t call a closet full of shoes most likely made by sweat shop workers a good thing.
Jack Myers
I almost feel like when minorities manage to become wealthy, they cling pretty hard to it. I’m not white myself, and my wealthy black friends almost seem appalled that I would take that away from them after they finally “made it”
Cooper Rogers
Why not both? :^)
Honestly, I'm going to be depressed if both candidates for 2020 are celebrities. I would've been extremely pissed at Trump being elected President if Bannon didn't make him go full nativist during the election campaign (Instead I was more ambivalent and skeptical)….Now, I'm furious at Trump AFTER he fired Bannon and took away my net neutrality.
We need to exterminate all celebrities.
Oh and fuck Oprah. Fucking "muh children" Christfag soccer mom shit mixed with liberal nigger gun-control crap. She is exactly what is wrong with America and is on the top of my reign of terror list.
If you think you're on the list, you're probably on it.
Jason Morris
every time
Ethan Watson
also >"the gender norm" that matters most
why haven't you killed yourself yet
Ryder Thompson
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Mason Peterson
Evangelicals are homicidal maniacs bruv
Wyatt Cook
Why are so many black and brown people becoming fucking Nazis?
Nathaniel Wood
It's not a big leap from left idpol to right idpol.
Brody Clark
fascism is not a coherent ideology
Nicholas Nelson
Fucking Christ
Leo Sanders
Excuse me NAM is antiracist thank you
Thomas Ramirez
Anyone ever feel like we should just nuke the US and start again?
The level of political discourse in that country has reached such an embarrassingly low level that I find it hard to believe that there's any way back for them.
Alexander Nelson
TRASH MAN 2020
Angel Long
The same reason why so many white people buy into the “white guilt” spooks. They feel guilty for some shit someone who happened to have a similar skin color as them did. It’s pretty spooky.
Aaron Thomas
SOMEONE DO THIS ALREADY FOR FUCK'S SAKES
Leo Hill
Lol
Aaron Collins
Didn't Oprah beg Trump to run for president 30 years ago?
Stupid as shit.
James Bell
Test
Owen Barnes
You don’t understand she didn’t understand her behavior was problematic then
Josiah Cruz
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Anthony Sanders
I wish I was unscrupulous enough to profit off all these fucking retards.
Ryan Butler
I heard the same thing last night and I have no idea who suggested it but I am utterly annoyed that people think it is a good idea. She's a TV personality and this country should realize that electing another TV personality will not good us any good.
Camden Cooper
Are they? The DNC still looks like as big a joke as ever, and I think they are defending an inordinate number of seats. Trump meanwhile is the same Trump he's been, his numbers are pretty much the same numbers he had the day he was elected.
Henry Butler
Kanye is actually autistic, there is zero chance he can keep his cool through a presidential run
Elijah Lee
Isn't he gay? I was under the impression that it was an open secret more or less
Easton Baker
Don't bother deciphering, it's a shitty Sargoy talking point that makes no sense when you consider Hillary is basically a republican
Camden King
I think you're thinking of Ellison, who is a gay muslim iirc.
Jaxson Anderson
Ellison isn’t gay.
Matthew Edwards
Not at all actually.
Isaiah Cruz
Shit continues to smell like shit.
Brandon Evans
No the rumors are definitely about Booker, who is a perpetual bachelor and has even been intimated as gay by the RNC
Jeremiah Williams
Castro and Kruschev should have listened to Guevara
Aiden Hughes
Yeah, but people like and recognize Oprah, and she's not Trump. I don't think it would take a lot to make her a viable candidate. I hate her, but that's on a personal level. I remember years back reading a story in my local norwegian newspaper on how she accused some swiss shop of racism because they hadn't let her look at a crocodile skin handbag that cost more than I make in a year. I can't say exactly why this stuck with me, but I think the fact that this was considered intentional news killed something deep inside me.
Nolan Russell
Insider here. Booker is not gay, either. Stunned there hasn’t been a #MeToo about him yet, though.
Brayden Turner
History supports it. Winning Presidents usually sees a loss of 23 seats in Mid-terms. Given Trump's unpopularity and the horde of retiring GOP, that number is going to increase.
Chase Johnson
You’re overplaying this hand. This one, too.
Hunter Richardson
You'll have to explain why, because were I sit, the GOP look in sore shape.