So most people here understand that the "Russigate" or "Trump-Russia" media narrative is a bunch of bullshit that has been used to make neoliberals to be victims of a "foreign power" and to crack down on even the most milquetoast Leftists. Because this is essentially a New McCarthyism I thought it would be constructive to make a general for the discussion of any news, theories, and anything else related to Russiagate here.
Also let me just reiterate that this thread isn't to defend Putin, claim he's "anti-imperialist", or anything else. Putin is a massive capitalist shit head and an oligarch who can rot in hell. It's just that Russiagate isn't so much about hurting Russia as it is about cracking down on any dissent, particularly on the Left, that opposes the neoliberal world order that's been built up by the USA for the last 30 years.
Meant to put these in the OP but here's some entertaining videos of the narrative breaking down: "Liberals Rally for Truth on Trump and Russia" youtube.com/watch?v=5qsOiZNEzvs (while this footage is funny in its own right I think its also interesting to compare it to the big Tea Party protests on Washington a few years ago, particularly this vid: youtube.com/watch?v=lUPMjC9mq5Y. It really drives home the point that there's no difference in the bourgeoise)
Yes it is, chauvinist. Russia's economy has been suffering for years now under sanctions that are explicitly targeted at it for supporting the sovereign government in Syria and the rebels in Ukraine.
William Moore
Don't get me wrong, I'm sure all the neocons who invented the conspiracy have a secondary goal of further hurting Russia, and that element of it will definitely ramp up once they get everyone questioning it corralled. For instance I noticed that the narrative sort of died out for a while and then came back in full force after Assad basically won out in Syria with Putin's aid. So of course they're trying to hurt Russia, but I think that's more part of the long game. Right now their primary goal is to take out everyone who's effectively challenging not only the narrative but the establishment itself.
1) It's been over a century 2) How is any of this news?
Wyatt Kelly
The military aspect seems to be largely ignored by the wild conspiracy theories that pass for journalism about the new cold war. NATO would much rather line up expensive weapon systems at their counterparts than fight a small and dirty war against guys with tracksuits and aks.
Nolan Foster
the major point of US media is to normalize militarism. That's why so many retired generals are informants for CNN/Fox/MSNBC
Blake Brown
daily reminder that trump has literally done nothing that benefits russia in the slightest
Jaxson Smith
"Benefiting Russia" in democrat discourse simply means not agitating and intensifying hostilities against them.
