DalaiLamaHate

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b-but like dude candles and shit

Legit anti-imperialist.
I'd like to know what's so wrong with Tibetan Buddhism. I know he's done some bad shit, but I honestly don't think he really lives up to the "China's Bin Laden" rep. Like, last time I mentioned that I was told that the violence performed in his name was actually mostly self-immolations. I bet there's more to it, but y'know… Bin Laden would have had them burn themselves on the condition that they took like 20 Chinese and/or a chunk of building with them at the very least. Just spooking some Chinese people with dramatic acts of protest? Don't invaders expect worse?

Maybe it's reverse-tankie or something, but I really do think of it as imperialist China vs. Tibet. And when it comes to imperialists vs. "underdog" nation scenarios, you can do so much fucking worse.

So revolutionaries were justified in seizing power in China, but the spooky magical borders of neighboring countries totally redeem capitalism and make it so that theocracy deserves to exist?

youtube.com/watch?v=Tu1WDLj6c5Q

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Nice strawman, buddy.

yes please.

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exactly

This is more complicated than that. Mao didn't invade Tibet in order to save it from capitalism- it wasn't present back then, Tibet was largely backward feudal state. The so called liberation isn't the true cause of Chinese actions- it's Tibet's strategic position. It's almost inaccessible, infrastructure is poor, there are hardly any roads (t.ancap). Tibet is China's buffer zone, it's safeguard of western border against India, with which China has pretty cold relations.
China's liberation of Tibet done more good than harm, the region is developed slowly and someday it may stop being a total shithole.

agreed.

Haile'd

Not unique to Tibetan Buddhism, almost every major culture went through this.

Again, in the feudal era. Does the current Dalai Llama call for this?

Actually, I'm curious, now - I don't want to look up each individual thing you cite, so I'll just ask… is this all describing feudal Tibet?

What about testimonies of torture in current China? I don't even have to compare Tibet to other feudal-era shitholes, or even early capitalist ones - lynchings, witch hunts, quartering? We should be well aware that these things aren't products of Tibetan Buddhism.

they are partly. Tibetian Budhism is very bad shit. Thats why the nazis liked it that much.

youtube.com/watch?v=k1SROS-WGJQ

I mean, the Nazis also ripped off the Five Year Plan and had an extreme cult-like admiration for a man who Stalin tasked with helping to industrialize the USSR.

so?

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the artificial nation of men is just as real as all the men who make them. Read Hobbes

You people are shit at propaganda. Go outside and ask a prole about a subject taken from The Conquest of Bread by Kropotkin, and he will say "i dunno about that book, but i know about the book of the lord". You people would call them "spooked" and completely disregard their opinion entirely. This is why armchair leftism is never going to save the working class. Indulge their spooks, say something like "Jesus would support taking from the rich and giving to the poor, and that's exactly what we're trying to do", and suddenly you have an ally. Whatever. While you guys are trying your damnedest to ban every "spooky" topic, i'll be out there trying to work with the cards we've been dealt.

Jesus is fascist.

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That's what I'm saying.

"The Nazis liked it" isn't really a good argument.

Is the Dalai Lama actually coherently arguing for a return to feudalism?

New Age hippies are more communist than your internet ☭TANKIE☭ ass will ever be.

>Implying the papal states would not be an improvement over modern Italy.

Disappointing really.

no, if anything he's suggested to end his institution. the dipshits dont know he's talking about and their analysis of religion is un-Marxist even. There's no question of how oppressive Tibet used to be. The Chinese abolished slavery, but the Tibetans are still being fucked by China. Btw, saying "lol, its tibetan buddism" is like saying that christianity caused european feudalism. its dumb.

btw, im not saying the dalai lama is great. i dont think he is, and I dont know why so many social liberals idolize him so much

t. brainlet
christian anarchism and christian communism are perfectly valid systems, and probably would work better than the kind of materialist communism and it's revisions we've seen a lot of.

I always thought of christian anarchism as a bit oxymoronic; the whole point of anarchism is to be against social hierarchy, by being a christian you are directly putting yourself under the oppression of god and asserting him higher than yourself. Leo Tolstoy was still pretty cool though.

does anyone really care about Tibet any more? the only time I remember it being a thing was back around the time of the 2008 Olympics, when western liberals just wanted something to bash the PRC with

Tibet is honestly a dead issue, but liberals would come out in force to defend it if their telescreen told them to.

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They're better persons too.

Christian anarchists don't consider the hierarchy between the divine and humans to be anything at all like hierarchies among men.

The liberalism in this thread is reaching critical mass!

A friend of mine saw him speak over this past summer and apparently he just rambled about the need for American diplomacy and supremacy to ensure world peace and said that other continents need to take inspiration from the EU, form more unions, then form a union of those unions. That and his senile chuckles.

I may not know much about feudalism, but I have played Crusader Kings 2. And there is no option for your succession to be "Just fuck my shit up". Dalai Lama sounds like a figurehead, and being upset with him is pointless.

he was a CIA asset for decades, there's documents on this stuff.

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