The nerve center is now constantly funnelling newfag Holla Forumsyps into the board. It's the problem with being a left space in an alt right cesspit.
If the aim of abolishing capitalism is to better the lives of workers then couldn't the same thing be achieved with...
Chase Gutierrez
Jordan Young
Probably. I don't believe all of us here want to abolish capitalism though. But I guess that why I'm a soc dem Rosa Killer.
It seems like a flaw of leftist today that our literature states time and time again capitalism has developed society and modernized the world…but it still needs to be abolished whole sale.
Jackson Young
Nope. We've been over this a million times from the start. Even if capitalists didn't have a direct profit motive to keep increasing the rate of exploitation, capitalism necessitates exploitation at all in the first place. There has to be a social pyramid.
IIRC that graph of the world rate of profit should reach zero in around 170, unpredictable events notwithstanding, obviously. Also it depends a lot on country, industry etc.
Chase Clark
It's to better the lives of everyone.
doesn't remove surplus value extraction
liberal meme, won't ever be implemented and if it is it would be a nightmare. the actual aim of basic income is to sweep all the rest of welfare by giving everyone a pittance, and to not have the unemployed have excuses to not be out looking for a job.
doesn't remove surplus value extraction, in fact i'd argue it makes things worse. when porks start losing money first thing they cut is worker's wages. workers are always the ones to pay for taxes increases. in my country literally half of a worker's paycheck goes in taxes, and he doesn't even have the option to evade taxes because the firm does the taxes for him.
all in all, it's not like these things are actually feasible anymore. capital is no longer fixed in place, if you're a booj and you start taking a dislike in your country's laws you can just up and leave for a country with lower standards. and you know what's gonna happen? people are gonna lose their jobs and are gonna be mad with le big gubmind for raising taxes or whatever bullshit.
even if by some miracle a succdem could find a way to get a 4 hour work day acceptable in his country, it still would be 4 hours a day too much. why wouldn't we want to do away with capitalism anyways?
it's not gonna happen, the very nature of capitalism leads to continuous overproduction. you can't overproduce if you're not working the absolute maximum of hours you need to.
Jayden Watson
all of what op has described sounds 100% like capitalism except the working 2 days part. the fuck are you on about
Isaiah Edwards
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