Sup comrades I'm looking to join an American socialist/communist party that isn't total shit I applied to join the CPUSA but Holla Forums told me they were a bunch of CIA-infiltrated liberals The Democratic Cops of America is an obvious no unless they're actually going a different direction The PSL is something I'm interested in but I've heard they're a bunch of tankies
Should I join one or just say fuck it and start my own?
Levi Clark
some Democratic Cops of America chapters are pretty marxist i hear, maybe worth checking out
Isaiah Bailey
user this is the ONE thing you don't do when looking for an org to join
Easton Gomez
Now whenever he joins an org, some guy is going to join the next day and he'll be suggesting pipe bombs by the end of the month.
Ian Campbell
Welcome!
Dominic Bennett
if you can start the CAIP that'd be great the Communists against Identity Politics
Isaiah Nelson
has anyone here even talked with their members? how do they even talk like with such ideological confusion?
Oliver Ramirez
The Democratic Cops of America is where all the energy and momentum is at right now but I don't blame you. I'd consider working with them but unless I lived in a location where the chapter was hard marxist (I don't) it's off the table. The PSL aren't really tanky I think but they definitely are ML's. They want to be the vanguard party which is fucking rad but is probably the hardest of all possible sells here in America. Idk, I'd probably join the PSL if they were active in my location but I'm stuck with bullshit.
Bentley Baker
I regret everything, I got the email back from them and ignored it since Holla Forums scared me off of it
Brayden Morris
You can get kicked out for not supporting the Democrats, don't. Liberal idpol wearing red. Their newspapers are full of "Students fight for black rights in the streets!" and one or two articles on capitalism. Their sister organization, the People's Council of Resistance, also puts identity first and won't even commit to full collectivization, instead opting to nationalize banks for slavery reparations, pics related. Highly decentralized and quality differs between region to region, or so I've heard. Could be worth it, might not, best check it out for yourself. I don't know enough about it to say.
I think it's best just playing a Trot and adding another splinter to the woodpile.
Henry Parker
Your name is already on a list
David Perry
Yeah I'm going to go ahead and guess that mine isn't considering they don't even use the word "worker" or anything like it on the front page Goddamn fucking idpol stop ruining everything
Levi Robinson
ABQ? Is that Albuquerque, NM?
Liam Lewis
Yessir it is
Daniel Long
Wasnt NM one of the worst examples of demshit fuckery during the primaries last year?
Cooper Sullivan
Dunno how it could be considering our primary was so late that by the time they rolled around Hillary was already locked in as the nominee
Camden James
Oh well your Democratic Cops of America Chapter sounds like a id-pol hell anyway
Brandon Long
Yeah gonna go ahead and steer clear of them [spoiler]i may have sent them a somewhat angry message on their site about how piss poor socialists they are
Leo Jenkins
Check ISO, SAlt and IWW as well. It's hard for me to tell you to join one or the other since it depends on the chapter and I have no idea what those are like in your area
Mason Williams
join anyway and perform steer them in the right direction. if they still haven't quite formed that means your voice will have more power.
people forget that Lenin himself was an entryist and the Bolshevik party was initially succdem.
Austin Butler
FYI, the roses bullied the cop organizer out of their org entirely.
Wyatt Foster
Join the SEP.
Justin Butler
Cop organizer is gone, his defenders in the leadership remain. He had to go in order for them to avoid an internal revolt.
Ayden Ramirez
What state, op?
Bentley Davis
Make a secret Blanquist cell with your friends.
Samuel Evans
New Mexico
Alexander King
I think it's safe to say that no national organization free of liberal idpol bullshit besides maybe goofy cults like the RCP.
Adrian Ortiz
Join the Greens and do some eco-socialist organizing. All these little political parties do nothing as long as the election system that keeps them marginalized is left in place. We need a united front to push for approval voting and/or proportional representation. Otherwise, you might as well stick to apolitical organizing via Democratic Cops of America or IWW.
Kevin Wilson
Beware the ISO, they are EXTREME imperialism apologists. They ran dozens of articles supporting the "revolutions" in Libya, Ukraine, and Syria.
This is the best choice. SEP are the only militantly anti idpol communist group in America.
Aiden Williams
y tho
Asher White
The Green Party is completely ineffectual. Their biggest accomplishment is coming out every four years for a political LARP in the presidential race. Also So organizing the largest prison strike in US history is apolitical?