What's the most class conscious fantasy novel?

she's the one that's still alive though

i've been considering writing a fantasy novel that uses marxism analysis,appealing marxism to a a fictional world as a sort of case exampe

Here you go, OP.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_Miéville

Warlord of the Air (Michael Moorcock)
or Animal Farm (George Orwell)

The Orcs did nothing wrong and Sauron just wanted order in middle earth. He didn't have the best way of going about it, but a lot of other alternatives were capitalist as shit. Gondor was a feudal society, same with Rohan and even the Dwarves. I like Dwarves, but damn.

Gurm is a massive shitlib. Liberalism oozes from everything he writes on his blogs and shit. He was a big player in the whole sad puppies debacle trying to kick people out of the scifi/fantasy community for not being liberals.

They killed the sandsnakes because literally everyone hated them, including tumblr.

Me too. Fucking do it.

I don't really care about his personal polticial views though as long as he writes good fiction. ASOIAF is completely apolticial with some lose references to history. The thing is that gurm is just a shitty person in general. He's gonna die before he finishes his main opus, this is certain. He's a lazy, money-grabbing pervert who needs a over a decade to write a book that ends with a teenage girl having diarrhea.

They should have just buried the Dorne story line and pretended it never happened. Not a fan of Dorne in the books but cutting out Arianne who was the only interesting character but instead making a buddy movie with Jamie an Bronn was the epitome of bad, cringey writing.

Saruman is literally an industrial tycoon btw.

To be fair it's a shitload of work to tie together so many stories. To be accurate, Gurm spends too much time fucking around with other things and is apparently incapable of reining himself in to stick to the important stories.

Isn't that kind of what they're doing by killing off the most offending characters? Dorne is strategically important. They can't just ignore it completely.

Which makes it even funnier that gurm pretends he's just gonna finish it within two books like it's nothing.
reddit.com/r/asoiaf/comments/2v2ege/spoilers_all_all_known_open_plotlines_of_asoiaf/
lmao explain to me how he is going to do it when the books are known to move slowly in pace

wew lad, he was a classist cunt. the orcs are the british working class he despised.

Tolkien was not class conscious, but he didn't despise the working class.

Harry Potter obviously, Lord Voldemort is a racist just like Donald Trump, and Harry Potter learns about diversity.

Tolkein was more of an wistful Medievalist than a class enemy. His works take much more from seriously old stories like Beowulf and the sagas than they from his contemporary surroundings.

Bit different from modern day fantasy authors, who are nearly universally hacks without a curious bone in their body.

I doubt it.

Marx supposedly loved Balzac's Human Comedy, but I haven't read any of it yet, so I can't say a thing about it except that he praised it as very realistic.

Not a book but I found Arcanum and Deus Ex both very marxist.

I've literally only just noticed that the long winter can be seen as a metaphor for real life climate change.
I think I might actually be retarded.

Same for the while walkers really, they are a generic global threat that cannot be stopped without the unity of people. GRRM is literally advocating the youth to seize power in order to stop the Long Night. I'm Azor Ahai.

That's kind of interesting considering all the reactionary characters bite it while those seeking to overturn the status quo generally keep going.

Nah, it's a reference to
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Ice_Age

What if
all those things
are just really the same archetype?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jungian_archetypes

Game of Thrones is based on the war of the roses (Yorks vs. Lancasters,) but wrapped in fantasy sugar.
So it's just medival history, but with magic and dragons to make it more appealing.

Orcs are "parodies of elves". They are alienated and warped by evil, born this way. I don't think there's hatred against Orcs.

I've been working on an outline for a book about a group of vampire hunters with Anarchist themes.

But Im trying to come up with a way to parallel blood sucking inhuman monsters that live in castles to capitalist that doesn't come across hamfisted.

Its tentatively titled "No Gods. No Monsters."

Have your anarchists call them "Ticks"? They're hideous, parasites, suck blood, transmit diseases.

Which makes orcposting from Holla Forumsyps even more ridiculous. Orcs are a slave race, artificially created - not very different from the NoI myth about white people.

By the way, did you know that Tolkien and CS Lewis had intense debates about the immortality of the souls of the Orcs ?.

I only read LoTR once, not even in my native language, so I'm a casual fan at best but even I know Orcs are not actually evil.

I keep hearing reactionaries say this

Is this the only time far left thought has been represented in fantasy?

Maybe. Was thinking about making the enemies fae instead.

One of the hunters is a paranoid smashie Based on a character I played in an urban fantasy game. Was the kind of guy who would bring nailbombs to a fight with the fae.

It didn't end well for him. He pissed off a lot of factions at once.

I'd actually like to read that.
Do you have a source?

Like everyone else I'm kinda sick of that (great) movie through overexposure, but that part gets way funnier as I get older.

He started off by talking about how Tolkien was "unrealistic" and ends up with how women are better warriors than men.

en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:On_Orcs_and_the_Afterlife
Not satisfying, but it's an intro.

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It does get referenced a bit too much sometimes but I think it's slowed down a bit recently. I think Rick and Morty has taken over the most overly referenced media to the point it's annoying. I still think it's a great film though, Life of Brian is better though

Not one of you leftyknickers but I read this book called red rising and all 3 books are about the reds crashing a class based system. Hell the main characters signature weapon is a damn sickle. Im not even a commie but I somewhat enjoyed the storyline