When are we on the left going to admit we're basically completely fucked on the internet side of things beyond Facebook?
Even with our recent Bat'ko revenge campaign, we couldn't even stop fucking nobodies, while the right have recruited channels and personalities that have followers in the tens of millions.
Even on Youtube, like the biggest left wing channels like Contra and Hbomber have like a 10th of the subs of just moderately sized right wing youtube channels.
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The right wing is here to stay and will only get more popular and powerful. The left betrayed Western Civilization and tje traditional values and virtues which made it great.
I have no idea why anyone still believes that Youtube is in any significant way different from TV. It's not a battle we can win, there must be better ways.
Imagine my shock.
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Proofs? Is he shilling for right wing BS on his channel?
The "proof" is him shouting molymeme out in the screenshot after being promoted by him. Incidentally, I got Shapiro to retweet me once so I'm pretty sure he's a commie now
Look at his new follows.
That's not promoting nigga. For 99% of his subscribers, he's just some dude who play video games (or whatever the fuck he does nowadays), Not some AnCap/alt-right outlet.
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Reminder not to jump to conclusions yet but to also look at it from this angle: youtube.com
Nope.
He doesn't look like a fat glob of fat.
Supporting muslim immigration won't win us over the "normies". I've said this since the beginning of the refugee crisis.
Well, although the alt-Right hates us we're not really a concern for them, and they define themselves a lot more in opposition to mainstream liberalism than to socialism. In that sense, manchild e-celebs who never developed a political sensibility past what South Park taught them have a lot of counterweigh, because real celebrities tend to be progressives. The battle is not us vs. the alt-Right.
As for our online output, yes, we suck balls, but what do you expect when our numbers are mostly composed of anime kids and insufferable college kids, so all our content is embarrassing? No one cares what IncelAnarchist and TransLeftCom have to say, they want regular people reaching out to them.
oh hey marx-poster. did you figure out what idpol is yet?
Ok keep shilling for people who come to Europe only because of capitalist lies. They actually think they will get a free car, house and other materialistic garbage.
I have talked to a lot of them. My aunt works at a refugee center.
Right wing is designed for stuff like internet media empires. It requires huge capital investments and low wages for writers/reporters/etc. to even have a chance to be profitable. The communication model is especially bourgeois, it's subject(presenter) -> object(viewer). Monologue and spectator education are the hallmarks of a bourgeois education system.
We don't have the luxury of capital investments, independent wealth for our presenters, and technological developments in media that reproduce hierarchical modes of communication (television, reproduced in Youtube). Our strength doesn't lie there, but in developing alternatives. In place of capital we have labor and mass movement. Instead of hierarchical communication we have egalitarian communication based in two subjects understanding the world (object).
What I guess I'm saying is, don't worry about the media meme. That's not the struggle and that's not how we win.
bullshit he is a kike everyone knows that
No he's Raised christian not jewish
Stefan and PJW are just edgelords spewing the same Nazi-adjacent shit that the average anti-SJ youtuber already likes.
Southern is basically an out and out neonazi now that she's shilling anuddah shoah conspiracy shit and that has me far more worried.
who would've expected
im a newfag. molyneux is left? i thought he was crazy? just trying to understand the spectrum.
Nope, these are left-leaning lolbertarians.
Pewds in the other hand is a FULL-BLOWN Nazi Fascist that wants to unironically GTK.
gtk?
That's one of the most retarded pics I've ever seen.
lol go on, this take is clearly going to be quite hot.
AnCrap with Fascist leanings.
are you just pretending
thanks, faggot.
Grow the kush.
Lmao, keep crying, Holla Forums.
Also image related.
You think FB is leftist? That's pretty funny, tbh.
No surprise there are many subs to aut-rightists & liberals to places like TYT. Most people in the US are either stupid(mainly due to not being given/afforded access to proper education) or working too hard to be educated on politics properly.
The left is having a resurgence in politics all around the world. People don't take kindly to fascists, of course.
no, what you're thinking of is capitalism.
Who here is shilling for it?
Just yesterday I saw a thread about stopping the nazi boat in the mediterranean because they wanted to send the africans back to the shore they just left in a tiny inflatable boat.
Well, who wants to defend nazis, though. Anyway, that should be left up to the country or proper authorities. You can't just fucking pop someone's inflatable boat, those people deserve to live. Now what location they live is another topic. But humanitarianism should be given to those in hardship, not murdering or stranding them.
Mainly most of our views here are being against capitalism & imperialism that both cause & promote these troubles.
Forgot to sage garbage thread.
Lol what an assmad spergy faggot.
kill yourself
Good, I hope the nazi boat and everyone on it drowned
Capitalism sold out western culture like a whore
Just to clarify, I was talking about how the nazis are popping the immigrants' boats, if it wasn't clear.
Christ, it's all so blatant isn't it. The altright is just one big money making scheme.
Look at the Laura Loomer girl who needed a legal 'defense fund' and spent it on a nosejob.
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Didn't you know user? Adorno is responsible for Miley Cyrus.
Defeatist threads are always, always COINTELPRO.
Same as the antifa girl from berkley. She begged for money after being punched by a nazi.
No this is the internet you autist. In two years people will be looking back on when they got caught up in right wing populism and cringing because that's all the internet's good for.
I'd say the real test will be the German election, whether Die Linke, AfD, FDP or Greens will come in 3rd,
Not like it will change the result though, Merkel will win a landslide and stay another 4 years.
There is absolutely nothing with Miley Cyrus. If Wayne Coyne is her friend, it means she is doing something right.
Plus her art makes you reconsider facts of life deeply by asking questions such as WHY DO THEY PUT THE DICK IN THE PUSSY
the right wing is more logical than whatever the mainstream left is pushing, ie. equality of result withing the capitalist system because muh victimhood. even most Petit Bourgeoisie non whites are against it, the only nucleus of support for leftist/sjw ideas is on the media and a few elite colleges, and even that is bound to change
The fact that you say that like it's a good thing baffles me.
Yes, we need to spread more Stirner and Porky memes so normalfags start spamming them, too. Then we'll be better than all those nasty right-wingers, right?
Pathetic.
who gives a shit about some shitty unfunny lets player ?
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Molyneux is pretty much the gateway to far right stuff and has been for years. No surprise a gimp such as pewdiepie likes him. Endless cynical humour and irreverence is a necessary part of fascism.
where's the subsequent grift? where's the large, successful scam supported by large left-leaning networks?
oh right, you're a retard who thought the accusation against loomer starts and ends with "she asked for money hurr"
Burgers should come with a warning that they are about to vomit some retarded shit
Don't you mean twitter
Facebook doesn't make these people the cosmo topic they desperately want to be in a profoundly negative way. Twitter is where the right truly means the social, and no matter how many followers someone gets there's like probably someone like Felix or Adam Friedland who can match up.
That and a majority of the content creators on the site are on the farther radical left.
Honesty we're not fucked because people like pewdiepie don't make content. They don't. Think about what he does and how the average adult is going to react to that
They're going to chose the opposite.
People who are infamous associating with politics on a medium totally hostile to them is not a positive for them.
Children will be children but once these kids get out on the world they'll grow the larger trend of this generation being interested in socialism, right now it's at 51% and with the way capitalism is rotting you think it's going to shrink?
No. only the idiots who can't let go of their childhood and become coddled little children into adulthood watch this guy and people around him. What fucking 26 year old who isn't a pathetic pile of lard admits "yeah I actually chronically listen to Stefan Molyneux and watch Pewdiepie, I love Markplier"
And how many people on twitter who used to browse Chans or SomethingAwful that age aren't going to ruthlessly mock them and identity them because these people are stupid enough to put their fat faces with their easily mockable politics?
Who gives a fuck about this guy
It doesn't change anything. The only people who are politically convinced by fucking PewDiePie are the ground meat of society, they don't matter in life and have no influence besides being mocked like nerds in a fucking 80's high school teen drama
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(Karl Marx complaining about Materialistic Garbage)
Wow
Game Theory
Pewdiepie represents the interests of the adult working class, and not children and autists who's parents wash and iron their clothes=
fascinating
Who said anything about Netflix and what content can you point to me on youtube that's better than the first season of Twin Peaks, I could always just torrent anyways.
Also what is it like $15? I'd pay $15 for that.
We were talking about Twitter anyways. The place where these people only venture to complain about how leftism is destroying their emotions
Where did it all go so wrong?
All that quality content like Steven The Dipshit and his 8 million clones Reacts to the new Marvel movie
Women are demons
Alien Chestburster explained
Movie Reviewers
You know these people are teenagers right
Wait until they actually are forced to become self sufficient by their parents
Different kind of identity politics.
Leftist identity politics:
Right identity politics:
when materialism died, and idpol took its place. Kids have always been dumb, anyways.
Do you think Marxism is a war on whiteness
Jesus no wonder you fucking watch Pewdiepie you're fucking dumb as a junior high student
Nothing turns people on more than complaining about how you can't have sex and unwarranted self importance
As if people shouldn't care about material wealth under capitalism.
This marx-poster is just a thirsty illiterate teenager who doesn't understand what idpol is and is only interested in "triggering le libruls :DDDD"
Most of these people are redditors. Ironic how Holla Forums used to complain about the left being filled with them.
Now they're bosom buddies.
That's not attractive to most people they're just going to do something else that's more healthy like empty their bowels
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Lol you're a liar or a retard. Either way strawman number 1 is of center right hillary-style "leftists" and strawman 2 isn't right wing identity politics, it's just what right wing idpol retards say to try to lure people in when they're not going full 1488.
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People have been putting a space between a quote and a response since the beginning of image boards, not like you were actually there.
Call it somethingawful spacing, most of us are from there anyways.
I think you're the dumb ass here, my man.
Yes, when I refer to lefties I'm talking about the kind of people that would vote Hillary.
The reason for this is that commies are so rare and uninfluential they're irrelevant.
Game theory: Straw grabbing about double spacing on a board filled with college students, to defend pewdiepie, will actually make the right win
that's why they appeal to them, and not others; because they're already neglected.
Oh you mean liberals. Fuck them but they have something in common in that both Marxists and liberals hate you but that's something everyday Republicans think also.
I mean you're hated by pretty much everybody
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Why should I give a shit about your feelings, when the fuck did politics suddenly become a hug box you petulant faggot
that's who people brand the left as nowadays.
I don't know what you think I am, but in my country I'm pretty much the average voter except I value freedom and privacy more than most.
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You're autistic, I wasn't defending them, I was explaining their action. You're the petulant one here.
Why the fuck would I post on Holla Forums if I was content to leave this status quo and was content to let center right dipshits have "the left"?
Nobody brings up their nationality unless its a burger pretending they're foriegn. Or an incredibly inept fuck who thinks it matters
You're really not the average voter at all.
everyone thinks this
The only sort of clown who has sympathy or explains these people in a sympathetic light are pure cancer. Nobody gives a shit about you or kindness.
You mean capitalism
You're a red liberal. Just stop with any pretense of calling yourself a Marxist, or even a leftist If you don't care about analyzing sub-cultures, or social phenomena via materialism.
and nobody gives a shit about your horrible opinions.
3 months ago
Now
I care about it, that doesn't mean I have to give a fuck about these people's feelings. Cry me a river over the god damn first world neets who post on Holla Forums, watch pewdieabove 20, who can't dress themselves and frequently shart.
They're all Americans at that.
It does matter.
Politics are relative.
Lefties are who is left compared to the current government.
Righties are who is left compared to the current government.
My country happens to be fairly right wing (if you do that stupid thing that is counting nationalism as right wing), so I'm pretty much a libertarian centrist.
Who's going to hate that, apart from extremists?
America?
this is the level of analysis you're operating at, you are helping absolutely no one.
and now you openly out yourself as a chauvinist.
Australia.
Economically we're pretty average, but we've got more nationalism and anti-immigration than Europeans.
If you think politics isn't globally devisive you must be living in a shit hole; given you didn't really deny you're American the only place that isolated is fucking Oklahoma if I'm being generous.
The right responded the American election cycle to economic conditions, and the right they elect will fail to give them that. They gave liberals a try and the right a try, it will only fuel the fire of this generation's intense growth into Marxism and theory.
Why would they support any kind of economy that gives them nothing, that's insane. Capitalism is on its deathbed already, the youth now adults hate it, and the youth watching this blonde youtube bimbo are going to get fucked even harder and so vote left even harder seeing their choices go belly up in results.
Dialectics and history don't stop because you're remote
Oh you're that Bumblefuck
If you live in the red hot shitty desert why are you speaking on behalf of anyone when you admit you can't
Get a load of this guy thinking that the working class is lower than a bunch of hipsters in Melbourne eating $20 avacado toast
Corbyn didn't really win that much, it's just that the Tories didn't deserve those seats in the first place and the anti-(hard?)brexit public voted tactically.
Watch this video youtube.com
Ed should've won.
Imagine being under the age of 40 and complaining about avacados when you don't have an allergic reaction to them
Corbyn still supports Brexit so ???
Imagine my shock!
who gives a fuck about pewdiepie who's over 18 tho
Holla Forums
Does that mean Holla Forums is filled with under age posters?
People under the age of 30.
He's even influential in China where YouTube is blocked.
Corbyn supports a non-Brexit Brexit (staying in the single market).
UKIP and many tories wanted to break up with the EU no matter what cost. (which will result in a collapse of the british economy)
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You mean Nigel's rotting corpse that just shat out its last bowel movement
You may not realise this, but he has more subscribers than many countries have citizens, and the largest viewership of YouTube is between 25 and 34
From my observation of leftypol and rightypol the biggest difference between the two sides is when rightypol hears something that marginally touches his tribalism, he will support and applaud that post, regardless of how much he actually understood.
Leftypol on the other hand will find something to criticize despite liking most of what he read.
Fundamentally board culture is extremely toxic, and lefties are smarter than rightwingers.
Rightwing toxicity is always mitigated by the stupidity of the right wing.
My feeling is the right is winning on Holla Forums because righties will cheer for anything of which they understand and like ~10%, Lefties don't cheer on their shitposting comrades.
We need to be less toxic towards comrades, but we can't do that because we are too focused on issues rather than simple tribalism.
But most of the internet conversation is primitive tribalism. And the reason right wing propaganda works so well on the internet is because they are primitive tribalists.
Unless leftypol dumbs down the message and starts expressing solidarity over less, the right is going to continue winning.
TL;DR Rightwing tribalism is much stronger on the internet than leftwing tribalism, Left needs to step up the tribalism to compete.
I mean it makes sense, doesn't it? They have a vapid obsession over irrelevant crap, and ecelebs.
There are a lot of children out there who lie about their age on fucking youtube
Pretty much
queue up those posts of Holla Forums calling zizek their guy.
Assume a large portion of those followers are bots and inactive users
PDP probably has ~5mil regular viewers, sure a lot but not the 50mio subs he has.
Bots are frequently sent to subscribe to the most popular channels to make them seem more human.
I'm fucking scared of pewdiepie now. Oh my god, what a nightmare. Imagine if these people, actually thought? Who knows what they might do if they think
When all your YouTube heroes from 2012 turn into reactionary edgelords…😖🔫
Boogie??
Seriousely has he become and edgelord?
I'm sensing a pattern.
rightwinger thinks: "You sound like a faggot who thinks he is better than me"
rightwinger says "Fuck off cuck"
The argument
will work much better, for one saying "depressed wages" will make them think you think you are better than them because of your fancy language.
I use an undefined enemey "they", because rightwingers want to feel under threat by some unknown but sinister force.
Controlled immigration has the problem that the moment they hear "controlled" they think about politicians lying to them.
lmao what. That sounds like bullshit
what
It's called "pandering." Gamer is not an identity, no matter how much idpolers wish that it was.
You're probably right, fuck me for underestimating how spooked they are.
No problem comrade, lost a lot of brain power trying to figure out what they are thinking. It's not much.
You deserve to be let down, you dumb nigger. Why would you worship a disgusting fat fuck?
How unexpected.
Youtube gave us TJ, Stefan Molyneux, this fucking obnoxious twat, fucking all those "atheist secular rationalist" youtubers like Thunderf00t, annoying fucking creationists, TheYoungTurks, That one guy who tried to make an unauthorized Anita Sarkesian documentary that he spent all the cash on anyways and got in dispute with his partner (forgot his name, Jordon Owen? I don't know who's more pathetic him or his partner), just
All this fucking trash that get paid by google
Why should I care about youtube? Why shouldn't I discriminate against people who are politically influenced by youtube?
Patreon is feeding the beasts as well.
youtube genocide when?
Google money is far worse a criminal. I mean, at least Patreon is voluntary. People can feed whatever disgusting horrible interests they want, I would donate a million dollars a month to Cum Town if I could
But Google money, it not only comes with restrictions on what you can or can't do, but it's private money not made by the people or their labor. It's money from a fucking monopoly, people in power are making this people thrive, not the people themselves voluntarily subscribing.
Patreon may feed the beast, but people can cancel that. You can't cancel a "youtube partnership" that makes a whore of you
It is, because capitalism encourages people to form identities around products.
The typical burger or Euro just doesn't want to live around blacks or Muslims. Everyone knows the radical left is not going to accomplish anything, and will always bend the knee to the center-left in the name of anti-racism and internationalism in practice. So they vote for the right-wing. It isn't that complicated.
Stop it faggots, there shouldn't be a liberal bias and what people can and can't do.
I can judge you all I want. In fact, I am telling you that you are a whore for whores who's pimp is the biggest whore of all.
I can call you the metaphorical whore of babylon.
on what people can and can't do*
You can't get your world view and political opinions from youtube and not come out a giant fucking annoying brat
This is a joke right?
Shut the fuck up retard. This shit is nothing. This shit is going to die how Tumblr SJWs and YouTube/Reddit atheism died.
Retards on this board pretend to care about the lefts presence on the internet immediately after they post pictures of themselves with 10 inch long dildos in their assholes. Grow the fuck up
obviously meant for
This so much, I was pretty much radicalized from living on my own (In Canada ((please dont believe the lies this place is a poverty stricken hellhole🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧 and getting a job.
FTFY.
I think you mean capitalism destroyed western civilization.
#NotAllAmericans
Western Civilization before Capitalism wasn't the fucking paradise you make it out to be.
It was still, equally, inhospitable.
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The academic agent
Now I see why he was the most retarded in that """debate""" already full of retards
Honestly in terms of youtube. Leftist channels are never going to be as big as the right wing ones because the right wing ones just reverberate through the entirety of right wing social and real world media. Lauren Southern is now on TV and shit. What the fuck is Muke going to peak at? 10,000 subs? The other thing is the right is willing to play the game. They have no problem brigading and mass downvoting videos they don't like, doxxing people, reporting everything they don't like. The left doesn't like to get down and dirty so it's a very uneven battlefront.
In terms of Youtube, the best shot the left has is just really just adopting the tactics of the right and mass flagging and downvoting videos and playing the algorithm. I mean, FFS, Youtube STILL recommends me Sargon or Armoured Skeptic or PJW if I watch a single political video, it's crazy how much the right dominate the site.
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This. Life fucking sucked and, relatively speaking, still does.
Unironically kill yourself
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We are the new punk rock. You have full financial and academic from all major institutions.
You're lame af multiculturalism and tolerance are a joke
Yes they do? Twitter does a good job on finding out where people work, informing their employers about their social media presence, and getting them fired. When they're the ones who should in theory, support such a practice.
The only people you can't "get" are media people. But the left has its side because everyone fucking hates media people. You go down the street and ask if you get political opinions from fucking MSNBC, youtube commentators, or fucking Markplier, or this asshole, and their going to spit take in your face.
Most people don't have time for that.
The idea that the "left is losing" is undialectical as hell, the material conditions that Capitalism is creating is, I would say, nurturing coming leftist insurrection and Capitalism can't do much to stop it because it's reaching the end of its reign. The rate of profit is in freefall and has been for years, the climate is only getting worse to make the market far more unstable, as well as people's lives. This all neccistates violence, and the world's western governments can only take advantage of this by blaming the other for so long before people realize the only people with resources left
are
them.
The capitalists. The wealthiest.
This is what has lead all revolutionary struggle in the past and it shall do it again.
These people can fucking have pewdiepie or whoever fucking Let's Player influencing their politics all they want. In the end, it still won't save Capitalism. It still won't save the rich. No kingdom lasts forever, and this kingdom is on its 21st century death knell. It won't happen this year, or even this decade. But it will happen this century.
I don't think, in the grand scheme of things, attention whores who get paid by google are going to do anything to stop the longest struggle in human history. Between freedom and feudalism, capitalism and communism, wealth vs labor, men vs the systems they create to take advantage of other men.
Thinking youtube will stop anything is very narrow minded. We are accelerating towards a point in which heads will roll, and we've long passed the point of no return.
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So much for non-cosmopolitan right.
nazbol this situation fast to the left
You're lame af multiculturalism and tolerance are a joke
At last i truely see. Can't forget when Soros funded that communist revolution in Toronto, leading to the peoples republic of Canadia. Pack it up comrades, we won! The world is communist now and capitalism has been abolished. Now imma go vape /peace
t. leftcom or resurrected gerald cohen
I'm not saying without evidence. I'm saying there comes a point where you can predict enough factors can motivate a revolution to occur, and this century has multitudes of these factors.
All it takes is a large scale financial crisis say, 2057, when the rate of profit is EVEN lower than it is now. The climate is worse, we could even have acid rain. Poverty is worse than it was in over a century and the affluent only live off dynasties of inheritance.
It all precipitates an insurrection. What that will be is unknown, but I doubt it will be for the benefit of the world those people will live in. There are factors at play here that make this extremely unstable, I'm not betting this on leftcom theory or anything of the sort. I can just point to good old Chaos Theory. Once a system becomes as unstable as it will be, it's mathematically impossible for some kind of insurrection not to occur. The future is very much predictable, not just by history, but of the many factors at play here.
The idea that someone as subjective as pewdiepie can influence enough people to support capitalism is laughable, but let's assume this. Once the rate of profit is that low, the climate is that shit, the dustbowl is back, acid rain is back, poverty is as bad as it was in 200 years
Let's guess, just how long can that last without life bursting from the seems strangle its former mentor? How long can fucking Pewdiepie's or Markplier's presence today buy Capitalism some time enough to stop the inevitable
The idea is moronic. It has nothing to do with left communism, I never even said "revolution" I said i n s u r r e c t i o n
kill yourself
You can't expect celebrities ("e" or otherwise) to support us, because what we advocate goes directly against the material interests of those who have used their fame to build fortunes. Indeed, if we had significant celebrity support, this in itself would be cause to doubt the potency of our movement as a vehicle for a worldwide proletarian revolution.
We don't get to Pewdiepie's followers by some celeb dictating their views, we get them by pointing out the material reasons their lives are shit. Even left-wing e-celebs will probably turn into socdems and betray us if they get too big.
So your saying make will become socdem
*muke
I hope he won't, but it wouldn't be the first time this happened - how do you think we got socdems in the first place?
Relying on leaders is folly because leaders, by virtue of their position as leaders, don't have our interests at heart.
maybe if their parents knew what he's about they would make their kids unfollow him
corbyn said explicitly he wants to take the uk out of the single market
I mean, you're more likely to be self employed or a landowner if you live in the outback in Australia than if you live in the city.
I don't understand the hate for Melbourne, it always seems to come from redbaiting retards who use it as a surrogate for their hate for anyone who isn't a foaming at the mouth conservative.
pewds isn't relevant anymore so i don't know what you're on about
Pewds used to shill himself on Holla Forums back in the day. He is a Holla Forumsidya oldfag.
Children eventually grow up and become adults.
What the fuck has your lack of contention have to do with the fact that the perceived political left includes things that are not off your particular variation of Marxist theory?
White people should be eradicated
What is so hard to understand about that?
spooked to the max
1. contention is not the noun form of content
2. i get that you're a burger but restraining your political definitions to what passes for the left in burgerstan is absolutely meaningless to anyone doing real political analysis
Trash thread about e celebs
you know that is a Holla Forums talking point right? Only gay neolib SJW and SUCCdems would argue otherwise
Holla Forums's only consistent viewpoint is crying about niggers. If there was a way of getting rid of niggers that depressed wages then they'd claim it's good for the economy by keeping it competitive.
yeah dude sure.
fuck off.
you're asking for it boyo
come on man, socialism would do away with gay ass fry cooks and shopping clerks.
Most Holla Forumsacks even agree with you that the monetary system is bullshit and that labor tickets are the way to go
dude can you take your dweeb ass away from here, nobody takes you seriously enough.
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Material conditions are material conditions, spooks are spooks.
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exciting.
You know how I know you're an SJW?
THE 1000 YEAR REICH!
Any content we put out needs to be better than dipshits like pewdiepie and molymeme. Teenagers shouldnt be the target audience, people aged 18-24 should be. Only children watch pewdiepie and only incels watch molymeme.
And I think you overestimate Southerns influence outside Holla Forums.
And who the fuck is Paul Joseph Watson?
heh nothin' personel
That's not possible. Punk rock is anti-establishment. You on the other hand are in love with it, evidenced by your never-ending love for your god-emperor.
Fake news, boypussy > dick.
that's immoral though, you're already forming POWER HIERARCHIES REEEE
Shoo.
no group is full of bigger and more unmotivated losers than nazi's
Your memes are awful.
And my preference for jews and niggers to go to the gas chamber isn't an actual hierarchy either
It becomes an actual hierarchy when that preference establishes one.
What a shitty meme.
You say that like it’s a bad thing.
Except we aren’t lazy.
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Haha. Nope. It would be nice, but Schulz is severly screwed.
Holy shit, that is so embarrassing. Actual props to those [yet misguided] rightists for kicking him out & making it more serious. The embarrassment I feel for that guy is palpable. Finally people whom live in reality are letting these idiots know the difference between real life & online.
If only people could get through to those protesters, about actual leftism, the results could be fantastic. They'd target the actual oppressors & know the reality of the US - it's nothing to be proud of. Before I was full lefty, I thought the same, to an extent. Raised in the south(KY), loved my guns(still do), hated government & saw the injustices of simply being poor/exploited by coal companies, etc. All that needs to be done is have a close family member or friend explain the state of politics more thoroughly & properly.
I know I rambled; I just woke up. Hate to see such untapped potential in those rightists. They're our comrades, whether they realize it yet or not.
is for of course.
related
If it is then they're shit at getting that point across. Also, nothing is X talking point, unless maybe you're referring to a philosopher or something.
Does Holla Forums regard capitalism & imperialism as the arbiter of this immigration issue?
For people who claim to hate tribalism, that's the only scope you guys view anything relatively.
no u
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wtf I love the free market now
Enjoy your rope.
He's joking
So basically a bunch of correlations that could be meaningless, a bunch of misleading use of manufactured indices, and a very shallow understanding of how metrics affect the population at large vs. specific "winners".
Of course you don't actually know what anything on this pic means, saw someone post it on /liberty/, saw that "numbers getting bigger = gooder", and stopped thinking there so I doubt I'm gonna get a more complicated response than if you just drooled on your keyboard anyway.
Most of the “econmicly free nations” are in the west and western countries continuously do imperialism. Also many of the “econmicly unfree nations” have higher GDP growth.
The height of American and European capitalism was when taxes on the rich were highest, the social safety net was strongest, unions we're strongest and regulations prevented banks from bringing things crashing down.
The heritage foundation distribution things. For example they would identify Scandinavian countries as having more economic freedom than China, despite China having none of the things socdems want, because China has"communists" in power.
And we don't want related capital here, we all know that doesn't work without also having the highest productivity w workers in the world market, because capital runs on exploitation.
Read books by actual economists (start with the secret history of capitalism by ha joon Chang) if you don't mind having your views challenged.
Good
Know your place
Now you just need to start reading real books not this retarded NEET shit, get a real job and stop being a pain in the ass for everyone around you.
Outside?
pathetic
Holla Forums has won ifunny too
God, how will we ever stop the 9gag army? I'm starting to lose hope here guys, if we don't have the most funny upvoted Pepe and Wojak memes, what's the point?
Some funny original leftist meme ideas:
It's Pepe and Wojak but this time Pepe is Stalin and Wojak is Trotsky
It's Pepe and Wojak but this time Pepe is Apo and Wojak is Erdogan
It's Pepe and Wojak but this time Pepe is Lenin and Wojak is Nester Makhno
It's Pepe and Wojak but this time Pepe is Stalin and Wojak is Hitler
It's Pepe and Wojak but this time Pepe is Bernie Sanders and Wojak is Rosa Luxemburg
It's Pepe and Wojak but this time Pepe is Wojak and Wojak is Pepe
It's Pepe and Wojak but this time Pepe is a fresh and funny meme and Wojak is too
Pack it in lads we're finished.
this but unironically
Good idea, let's use some shitty meme that was already dead in 2009
poopdadoop havent made a single entertaining video in a long ass time, like every celebrity who realizes his career is only going to go downward from then on, he started pandering to the alt-right losers crowd because he knows they're desperate for any endorsement from any remotely famous person, and he himself is desperate for a stable supporter base. he knows the alt right will unanimously support him no matter what. why else do you think every celebrity who become irrelevant suddenly turn conservative
Fat jokes aside, how exactly does PDP look American?
socialism?
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>socialism was the dead meme in 2009
I distinctly recall there being a massive crisis the prior year, and I'm fairly sure it wasn't a socialist crisis.
That's what capitalism did, you rightards just convinced everyone us leftists were responsible because you're bootlickers.
i think a big part of the problem is lack of working class identity. this is really a prerequisite for a broad based left-wing "tribal" identity but the online left at least is basically uninterested in trying to revive and cultivate one, outside of a few old ML parties' twitter accounts anyway. it doesn't exist irl really either because western ruling class has spent 50 years+ doing whatever is necessary to suppress it.
Holla Forums:
which is true, but shared class identity is also important if you want bind people together in a coherent political base and keep them from REEEEEEEing over every other little thing. I know not everyone here is like this, but i've seen this sentiment a lot here and anywhere else "anti-idpol" lefties are
pretty much everyone else tangentially attached to "the left":
what do you? fucked if I know. probably join a union or something.
Not a rebuttal, brainlet.
For a board that's supposedly far more literate and intelligent than Holla Forums, you people sure are fucking stupid.
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No you aren't.
Delusional as always
Not an argument. There are plenty of reasons given in the post & screencap. Also, there's reality.
Yeah, reading's boring, amirite?
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t. someone whom has never read Marx, has an extremely limited understanding of socialism and pretends to care about starving children
the teat of the taxpayer is second only to that of your parents
thats why us commies burn books
You guys are looking at this all wrong.
Hes talking about Stefan Mollyneux and Lauren Southern because that is what the kids are into nowadays.
Hes just following the fashion trends. Not setting them.
/thread
are all your memes text then that leftypol thing
we need muke to rise and cease the means of popular youtube vids
Underrated post
You would have to implement REAL Socialism for there to be a REAL Socialist crisis. There will never be a REAL Socialist crisis ever because REAL Socialism will never be implemented.
~60 million people
Besides the deflection you did…
You, too
Socialism is inevitable. Capitalism is on a literal crash course. It's gone as far as it can. Now we need a better/more responsible system.
~5 - 7 million kids & teens
If you think PewDiePie has any connection or even wants to have any connection to politics, you're just wrong. That could make him lose subscribers, so he won't ever take that unnecessary risk.
God damn you Holla Forumsyps don't even know what you're arguing against
A post-capitalist system is inevitable and it won't be called Socialism because Socialism is an ideology while capitalism, feudalism etc are not. We don't know what will replace capitalism, whether it will be a return to some form of feudalism or if humanity will beat the odds and reach a post scarcity system.
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There's a difference between CULTURE and Standard of Living, you moron.
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Not sure why you tagged me in that post.
In I was asking them to give an actual argument instead of being lazy.
How is something that is an observable reality an ideology?
What ideology is my post based on?
If they're parents tried to stop them from watching Pewdiepie it would create a Streisand Effect.
I'm saying it's clear from your post that you do not understand what the word ideology means. Even by the most basic definition, it applies to capitalism.
What does the word ideology mean?
Oh, I love this game. Searching for the most obscure definition to try & fit your preconceptions.
How does capitalism not fit the definition you just provided?
He is Swedish though, and reactionary sentiment is rising there, no?
What ideas and ideals preceded capitalism that then led to it being implemented by the holders of those ideas and ideals?
Capitalism isn't an idea, its existence precedes the word Capitalism. It existed before we conceptualized it as existing.
Wow, this is a level of denial I've never seen reached before.
You really are stupid and I am not even arguing in favor of capital.
And I'm not even arguing against it.
You seriously just fucking wrote this
How is it not an idea? And why would something called by another name(humoring you), be any different on that basis only?
Do you even understand what you're saying at this point? I was trying to end this conversation, because it's pointless.
The idea of its existence was conceptualized after the material conditions changed from feudalism. Do you think feudalism was also an ideology? Were there feudal ideologues conspiring to bring about feudalism in antiquity?
It is the overarching term for the collective ideologies, theories, customs, and traditions that formed overtop the material conditions that facilitated them, so yes.
So you think despotism and primitive tribalism were also ideologies?
Do you think at all?
Well are they ideologies or not? It is a simple question.
lmao
They aren't just 'simple questions,' they're rhetorical traps meant to distract from the fact that you're wrong by shifting the conversation away from feudalism onto subjects that you can worm and conflate to try and appear as though you aren't just a paper thin sophist.
Capitalism, feudalism, despotism and primitive tribalism all have something in common with each other which they do not share with Socialism, Communism, liberalism, minarchism etc. What is it?
Funny how you threw in Thunderf00t in that list otherwise I'd agree, I disagreed with his pro-EU shilling but otherwise he does make good content (I admit one doesn't need to watch 50 episodes of why creationism is stupid, but he debunks hyperloop, solar roadways, even posts his own science videos too).
There seems to be an undue amount of butthurt from feminist detractors due his well warranted critiques of Anita Sarkesian, sorry but she's a charlatan who precipitated the alt-right movement and it didn't help that the mainstream liberal media and even leftist outlets like the Jacobin double-downed on their vehement support for her.
He's good when he's talking about science, but bad when talking about politics.
True but he draws way too much heat from the left over Sarkesian, HBomber and Badmouse were butthurt enough to make videos about him.
Thunderf00t is an ideologue when it comes to capitalism (he talks as though money is real, literally the kind of person who might talk about "magic money trees"), but he should be called out on that, not for rightly calling out 3rd wave feminists.
The point is that you've not typed anything worth reading, you insipid, stuck-up cunt. Like most of this board's population, you vastly overestimate your own intellectual contributions, probably because you spend the vast majority of the time comparing yourself to Holla Forums and patting yourself on the back for being a couple of notches above the bottom. Congrats, you dumb piece of shit.
And if you aren't the dumbass who posted the original missive it doesn't matter, because what I've written almost certainly applies to you too.
Still not a rebuttal.
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Wow, he really got your number, huh?
I thought he lived in Bongistan.
>>>Holla Forums
Sorry,
>>>/reddit/