What do you think are the most acceptable forms of punishment within an anarchist community?
I think voluntary probation / therapy are good, or exile. (basically what we did when I was a monk. the silent treatment was pretty effective) Maybe tattooing serious offenders. But the death penalty and life imprisonment are pretty egregious and forced labor is not much better.
Connor Clark
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Austin Campbell
You wouldn't have any property crimes or drug crimes, fraud would be totally impossible, so really all you'd have to deal with would be traffic violations on one hand and sex crimes, assault, and murder on the other. Mental healthcare would be much more readily available as well, without the constraints of profit (plenty of psychology degrees are currently going unused). Require additional training before you can drive again Death Whipping or death, depending on severity Death The vast majority of crime today is caused by material privation or mental illness, but after those are removed, you'll still have to deal with a handful of genuinely evil people.
William Gray
yea but mob lynching isn't just
call me an idealist but i think it's possible to have justice without a state.
how bout manslaughter? accidental arson? damage to the environment?
Ian Bailey
restriction of access to luxuries restriction of access to luxuries whipping
Ayden Wright
Depends on the crime, depends on what the society itself is capable of supporting. Generally you want to err on the side of leniency and accomidation, but that may not be possible if under conditions of material shortage or revolutionary instability.
Let's assume we're talking about a post-revolutionary society for simplicity sake. First and foremost concern is minimizing the further or likely harm is permitted wherever the criminal ends up. If we're talking non-violent offenses, any real form of imprisonment would likely be unnecessary; addressing the cause of the crime should come first, then addressing any personal problems that led to the decision to commit said crime, and finally ensuring that damages as a result of that activity are rectified. In most cases that might just mean therapy/counseling while on probation.
If we're talking violent offenses, then we go through a similar sequence, but with greater care to minimize the aforementioned potential harm to others. That would probably mean being detained. Exile might work if the violence is tied to a specific person/group within the community where removing the offender eliminates the cause for violence. For anyone else, longer-term detainment will be necessary along with resources to address any underlying mental illness that might have contributed to the violent tendencies. Forced labor should be avoided, but work options might be left open to detainees.
Sounds like it could be easily abused. It would be best/easier for communities to share some manner of database of criminal offenses (like any modern law enforcement agency does) to better keep track of repeat offenders.
Again, this is all speculation: we won't know what will actually be possible until that society is made capable of emerging.
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What is this, ancient Mesopotamia? We don't need to rely this much on corporeal punishment.
Robert Morris
So anarchist justice is nothing more than a regression towards backward vindictiveness?
Kevin White
No punishment is acceptable. It is unhelpful, destructive, and unethical. Crime should be dealt with through finding the root problem and dealing with it. Therapy would likely be the most effective and common option. If the criminal is non-violent but refuses to be compliant, then the community should ostracize him. If the criminal is violent and non-compliant, then he should be given the choice of detainment or exile.
You're a very poor anarchist. Mostly just a reactionary.
Teach him how to not accidentally kill people, light shit on fire, or fuck with the environment and possibly keep him away from the things that caused harm.
Chase Campbell
Why not drug crimes? Drugs could easily turn into private property.
Alexander Martin
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Ryder Kelly
Firing squad/rope Exile, a month of harsh labor, or a beating
Tbh I like the slave system in Thomas More's Utopia. Most are criminals who are being forced to give back to soceity through labor, or they are condemned criminals from other countries who are given a chance at redemtion in Utopia.
Dominic Evans
Just like under capitalism(and every other social system out there) social sanctions for breaking rules would be far more subtle. For serious offenses like assault or rape guess therapy would be the best bet. And for (non mentally ill) people who are clearly anti-social and unwilling to adjust to societies rules, exile.
Cooper Cook
Torture and mutilation are pretty effective at getting people to behave. It's best to start them young too, instill fear and dread by taking a finger or two randomly without explanation. Everyone will be sure to follow the social order out of sheer terror. It's a pretty harmonious system that worked for a long time until Hammurabi had to go and fuck it up.
Christian Young
The proper response to antisocial behavior is first and foremost to figure out the root cause. Retaliation, justice, etc. is usually irrelevant compared to the importance of finding the cause and preventing future incidents. And inflicting punishment usually just results in further antisocial behavior. The vast majority of the time people act badly because they have a problem that they don't know how to deal with.
Henry Martin
anarchism doesn't strive to create more just society, you can do that with death camps
Jace Cox
The death penalty is a very questionable form of punishment for most crimes. Personally I feel it would be justified in the case of serial killers and such, but in some situations it can potentially make things worse. For example, if a rapist knew that the punishment for their crime was death, that would just encourage them to murder their victims as well in order to reduce their chances of getting caught.
Jaxson Fisher
Public whipping, hanging, or in extreme cases crucifixion.
Logan Johnson
I've always been a fan of restorative models of justice rather than retributive, however I think decentralization is the key here to let communities reflect their values in a more accurate manner, so some sort of relativism (not full on blind cultural relativism) is the right approach so long as it doesn't tread into the territory of being tolerant of intolerance.
Leo Thompson
If the punishment doesn't convince them not to commit the crime in the first place, it isn't harsh enough.
Lock them in a room where the floor is made of a large conveyer belt covered in sandpaper. It should constantly move at a slow speed, appearing under one wall and disappearing under the opposite wall. Ideally they should be able to rest for no more than a minute or two before it brings them to the other side of the room and starts grinding at them. Put them in naked for a less slow death, or give them clothes if you want them to have some time to panic before they begin the slow process of having their skin scraped off.
Sebastian Cox
Punishment does not work as a deterrent to crime. You have to rehabilitate those who commit and fix the cause for others to commit crimes.
Ethan Edwards
That's what rapists want you to believe.
Parker Wright
Is it hard to type such long posts one-handed?
Kevin Campbell
Death for all nonwhite crime. Will pretty much sort it out