How is Ba'athism not simply Not Socialism applied to Brown (Arab) people?

east asians are yellow, not brown.

They "resisted" Imperialism, didn't they? Throwing British Singapore garrison soldiers into the ocean in cages to drown? They kicked Euro ass in East Asia for a time, and had a good time humiliating them over it as well. Does that make some part of what they were doing right?

That post was more likely ironic.

Imperialist Confucianism instills values beyond that of capitalist consumerism.

Imperial Confucianism is the closest to Communism we have ever gotten.

Shintoism, especially Emperor Worship, was a much more autocratic and prolific form of Japanese thought than any other at that time. Confucianism was on the periphery, and only constituted the most superficial social interactions between people. Even the principles of Buddhism pervaded more than Confucianism. A fanatical devotion to the Emperor was much more prevalent, and it's clear by your post that you don't know much about Imperial Japanese Ideology.

Read Yukio Mishima

shit i'm getting yellow fever looking at this guy

This.
Socialism is all about opposing capitalism, not feudalism or slavery, and since the west has reached capitalism and NoC (nations of color) haven't, we should prefer anything they do to anything the racist sexist islamophobic transphobic fascist homophobic anti-semitic west does.

hi, cpusa, get off muh lawn!

Fuck me, so that's who the dude from SMT1 is based off of.

That coup also happened on my birthday, would you look at that.

Shintoism has its roots in Confucianism, hence I refereed to it as Imperialist Confucianism to draw parallels to the entirety of the Sinosphere as a whole.

Shintoism was used by the military the same way as its used by the LDP as it is today. Instead of being geared towards war its geared towards corporations.

Read Brian Daizen Victoria, John R Carter, Rupert Gethin, Valerie Roebuck, Hsuan Hua, Bill Porter, Burton Watson, Tsunugari Kubo, Akira Yuyama, Rober T.Ames, David Hall, Victor Mair, D.C Lau, Edward Slingerland, Bryan van Norden, John Minford, Cyril Birch, Richard Wilhelm, William Dolby, Gustav Heldt, W.G Aston, Basil Chamberlain, Alan Tansman, Louise Young, Yoshiaki Yoshimi, Reto Hofmann, Emiko Ohnuki-Tierney.

Alternatively you could also complete a double major in theoretical physics and respective national study of an east-Asiatic country of your institution you chose to attend - albeit that would require actual knowledge of a language beyond English and the ability to get a national scholarship.

You people need to understand that Ba'ath is succesfully subverted by reactionary forces. During the days of Nasser and the Syrian generals, the Ba'ath understood that they need to play a subversive revolutionary role in the Levant in order to stabilize their own countries. Even Hafez understood this after being cheated by Kissinger, so he funded most of the palestinian liberation front's actions, gave shelter to Apo as well as organizing plane hijackings in europe etc.
Bashar is however a swiss educated twat, who is the first syrian leader not understanding the Ba'ath doctrine to its entirety and behaves as a full on reacitonary. even before the western fuelled uprising he started losing support in the Damascus Ba'ath elite and by now, they full on fucking hate him.
Saddam was the one turning Ba'ath into a reactionary force in Iraq, thus to a large extent alienating the Syrians and the Russians as well, he was an idiot.

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It usually protects minority rights.

Ba'athism is more like socdem though

what

There's one faction of the communist party that supports Assad so they can get personal riches, the factions that oppose him gets their members thrown in jail for decades. Source is a guy who spent 16 years in jail for being a member of Syria's Communist Party:

aljumhuriya.net/en/the-role-of-the-intellectual/syria_the_left_and_the_world

there are many forms of ba'athism you must keep in mind

saddam is right wing ba'athism, nasser is left wing ba'athism and then there's also these guys

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Socialist_Arab_Ba'ath_Party

Yeah. It's hard to pin down Ba'athism as an ideology other that it is secular, pan-arab civic nationalist (self-determination) and in favor of a welfare state. Concretely, this can range from pretty fascist expressions (Saddam) to more or less socialistic tendencies (what you posted). In general, it isn't that for the middle east.

Isn't that bad*

*blocks your path*

Syria's east of the line, so it's anti-imperialism. Keep in mind that we were their main rivals before the Ba'ath consolidated power.

Can this meme please die?

absolutely disgusting

Explain, or give me a good book to read on this topic.

marxists.org/archive/trotsky/works/1944/1944-fas.htm

Also, as an aside: Ba'athism was progressive insofar as it signified a rejection of both advanced capitalist imperialism *and* Islamic reaction. Most Ba'athist nations have since reverted to one or the other OR themselves become semi-advanced imperial countries, but that doesn't change the historical context of Ba'athism as a progressive movement.

lol, I meant both

They dont privatize industries and make unions illegal.

My kurdish grandfather was a communist in Iraq. I grew up with stories about how my mother saw him return from prison covered in his own blood. The ba'athists filled pipes with sand and beat him. Her brother, my uncle, was also tortured and was lowered into a cesspool from his neck down and was left there for a few days. She also told me how ba'athist soldiers came and raided their house in the night so they had to jump from roof to roof. Few examples of life as a minority under Saddam.

The left, in my opinion, represents the polar opposite of fascism. It represents humanitarianism, feminism, democracy, solidarity and empathy. Yet I almost lose my ideology when I see "fellow comrades" blatantly defend authoritarianism and faux-left fascism. I understand that there is a lot of shitposters on this board in good spirit but I cannot help but feel disappointment in a lot of you with threads like this.

That sounds awful comrade.

Politics isn’t one dimensional. It’s more than left vs. right

Yes and didn't the Baathists in Iraq destroy the Communist Party, which was very strong at the time?

Opposing America is more important than opposing authoritarian regimes.

There was wide spread repression. Even a pashmerga faction was equally as repressive at the time.

No doubt, but even the classical political graph (your pic) doesn't do theory justice.

I will let the material conditions oppose America when the time comes. American workers are not ready to oppose their own state, how can we? Better to establish a global revolutionary network today for the downfall of capitalism tomorrow.

Please stop posting this image, it just isn't accurate.

leftcoms are fucking dumb

Bashar al-Assad embarked on a series of Western-style neo-liberal reforms following the so-called Damascus Spring in the early 2000s, which included the privatization of industry and banking. This obviously exacerbated inequality and encouraged nepotism, and the disenfranchisement in which that development left the lower classes was what allowed Islamist charities to step in among the impoverished in the first place.

thedailybeast.com/in-syria-follow-the-money-to-find-the-roots-of-the-revolt

One of the very first things the Ba'ath Patry did in Iraq was storm union headquarters, arrest labor leaders and incorporate the General Federation of Trade Unions into the state apparatus as the only recognized organization. It was subsequently used as a mean to promote class collaborationism and exert control over the workers in a corporatist fashion, just like the National Council of Corporations in Fascist Italy or the Deutsche Arbeitsfront in Nazi Germany.

labournet.net/world/0408/ukiraq03.html

kys Holla Forums. seriously.

I would like to remind people that Saddam was literally the most right wing baathist in existence. Also he was a shill for the US for most of his career.

bumpity

Yukio Mishima a great author but not his politcal works

fascism is feels > real

national socialism

national socialism

chiddy Not Socialism

these word filters suck

Go back to reddit.

Does it look like the Iraqi's or Syrians had the means of production redistributed? Were Saddam and Assad not (and still) living in palaces with fabulous wealth for them and their families? Are Assad's sons and daughters not the wealthiest elites in Syria? No? Stupid fuckwit brainlet retard idiot moron autist

thanks

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Opportunism. Not even once.

I would describe them as anarchist inspired socdems which is better than 99.9% of what we have today