European communist party

Sounds good but only if the anglos stay out of it

on one hand i think this could be a good idea, on the other hand i don't trust myself with a gun.

What about a single party with party with presence in every country parlament?

Kill yourself

Sorry for this autism but that flag is way too complicated and looks like shit so I had to make my own.

Minus the growth stunted Hammer and Sickle

...

bump

can I at least migrate? :'(

How about using the EU parlamentary framework to build this sort of international organisation? Making a new proper left parliamentary group or taking over GUE-NGL?

what is the point of the cops if they're less armed than the average citizen?

Get the fuck out. Why would you support mandatory conscription over mandatory social work? It would be much better if every 18 y/o was required to do a few months of working in a retirement home, for example.
This would benefit both the elderly and the young people who will gain valuable experiences. It will maybe even help to make young people overall a little bit more social.

Bullshit. Even if everyone owned a gun, many would just not bother to actually take care of it properly. I hope you realize yourself that this idea is complete nonsense.

Are you aware that the police is not only responsible for locking up antifa kiddies during protests? The vast majority of policemen work on actual crimes, so getting rid of them doesn't seem to be a good idea.
Looking to abolish the police under capitalism will just lead to Ancapistan…

Sadly the EU Parliament doesn't do shit. It can only choose to agree or disagree with what the other institutions propose.

So you just want to LARP ineffectually. Okay.

And I guess if you don't expect your ideas to be implemented, you don't need them to be logically consistent either.

This is more or less what bourgeois political institutions do anyway - I'm proposing the use of the parlament and the parlamentary group framework to build an international extraparlamentary organisation.

>believe in ue
lol, kys retard

After you took an ideology test and you can't ever mention the fact that you are american. Also you can't fuck est european chicks

Are you on the wrong board?

The thing is… those 12 stars refer to the 12 governments that signed the Maastricht Treaty. That's not really good communist symbolism, since the EU is just another bourgie organisation.

I still like it though. It represents the solidarity of the primary nations that form the Union.

no, u.
mandatory conscription helps you to build your physique, get social habits from sharing a room with fellow soldiers, teach you something about surviving /out/ and enforce the feeling that everyone is equal.
Mandatory social work just opens room for corruption where young bourgs get to have nicest places, fill places like retirement houses with incompetent labour and so on. It's simply bullshit.

so?

yes, I believe that every policemen should work on solving actual crimes. How come Denmark is fine with 192 policemen per 10.000 people while Italy needs 456?

Denmark is a lot more stable than Italy. It is overall wealthier and has less immigrants. Of course they need less police. Scandinavian countries in general (except for Sweden) are much safer than Southern European ones.

Not everyone is made for this kind of stuff. Are you aware of what social life in the military actually looks like? Hint, it is not like you apparently imagine it.

It's not like you can't get around this problem. For example, you can get the authorities to assign the exact facility to work at.
And even if this was a problem, it would still be preferable to mandatory conscription.

Oh, but it is okay to fill the army with incompetent labour? Not everyone has the physical requirements to be an actual soldier. (In fact, most people don't.)
Social work on the other hand barely has any requirements. You don't need to be physically well-built, smart, or anyting else really.

What so? Mandatory gun ownership is bullshit and LARPing. There is no point in making it *mandatory* if the majority of people will just leave their gun locked somewhere in their house without actually taking care of it.
Also, I don't see why gun ownership would be needed in a socialist country ar all. There will not be any capitalist police force to defend yourself from, so what is the point in all of this?

The stars don't refer to the number of states that signed the Maastricht Treaty. They are simply supposed to be a symbol of unity and solidarity.

europa.eu/european-union/about-eu/symbols/flag_en

of course, and conscription could for example increase safety from thievery made by immigrants.

stuff like what?
yes, it's place where you are forced to accept habits for living with other people without bothering them.

It's only your personal opinion, try to construct some kind of argument not just this feels>>reals

Of course, basic military training doesn't mean you'll be sent to "peacekeeping" mission.

Anyone who can lift a shovel can get basic training.

yes, giving young people access to prescription drugs via forced labour sounds very safe.

Taking tremendous care of your gun and "preparing for revolution" is 100% LARP. There is literally nothing wrong with everyone having locked gun in house, works wonderfully for Switzerland.

I think you are a little confused, kiddo.

fugg, forgot to change my shitposting flag

This could've been a good thread for the discussion of how to build a European communist movement, but you just started larping about what to do when all of Europe was already under a communist government. Useless!

You're clearly a retard. "mandatory gun ownership for citizens", but no guns for police?

Don't see the problem tbqh

why would you need any of those things in communism?

cuck

??

exactly. stop shitposting by calling others larpers and make some worthwhile comment, suggestions how to make european communist movements are welcome.

Bump

Clearly that's not what this thread is for, you ruined it already.
So let's just keep it on track; how would you organize the Milky Way in a communist fashion, guys?

Are by any chance German?

don't organize you filthy plebs

The flag was created for the Council of Europe in 1955 and adopted by the European Economic Community in 1985. The Maastricht Treaty was signed later in 1992.

12 was chosen because it lacked political connotations, although the EEC and European Union did have 12 member states from 1986 to 1994.

Going to bumpety bump this
EU is in a sense a marxist organisation. REEEEactors fired up? Let me explain my reasoning:
The problems ideological forefathers of the EU like Schuman set out to solve were aggressive nationalism and the Franco-German question. Both were rightly seen as perpetual sources of military conflict in Europe. The solution was however not an alliance between nation-states, which would be the classical liberal idea, but a supranational economic organisation (ECSC) that was built to defuse the powder keg. This is in accordance to the base-superstructure model of Marx. The same logic is reflected in the modern EU as well - the forced economic liberalisation programme leading to deeply interconnected economies is also a part of the European political project. The EU is using the all-destroying power of capital in an attempt to quash nationalism and to create a European identity in its place.

The consolidation of power into a supranational organisation can also be utilised. While the EU is even more resistant to non-liberal capitalist change than a regular bourgeois institution, should the left manage to take over (one way or the other), the pooled hard and soft power of the whole of EU would be enough to influence world politics and economy in a way a sole nation state couldn't, barring perhaps China or the US. A tradition of supranational economic and political organisation and institutions is also useful to the internationalist left for obvious reasons.

OP, what you want is the EU with more guns and no cops. I suggest you just wait a few years. Swedestan already has a problem hiring new cops. In other countries cops are complaining their equipment is not adequate to deal with diversity so give it some time and their numbers will too go down and the infidel-free zones will increase. As for guns, just head to your nearest mosque if you don't have a mossad contact.

That doesn't sound right…

Fuck the EU. Fuck every country still in the EU. They should all be nuked tbh.

No, what I want is Switzerland-tier stability and fully accelerated socdem capitalism. Transition to socialism can be successful only if contradictions of capitalism drive masses to revolt, keeping them armed and ready will minimize problems along the way. This is why we need international communist party, and European communist party would be great start.