How did a movie this basic and heavy handed end up being prophetic

How did a movie this basic and heavy handed end up being prophetic.

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user your time machine is seriously mixed up.

District 9: A group of refugees in extreme poverty with nowhere else to go are trapped in a place that hates them.

Modernity : A group of refugees in extreme poverty with nowhere else to go are trapped in a place that hates them.

So when are we going to start eating arabs?

Knowing Holla Forums? Probably soon.

Elysium sucked

Yeah, I thought District 9 was good though. I give that to this project not having a real script actually, it was mostly adlib, so the narrative was a combination of a bunch of ideas of the actors in it.

Blompkamp can manage actors well, but he can't write a script without a lot of help and input.

but that has happened for centuries, this shitty movie is not a prophecy

And anyways, growing up in apartheid South Africa, those issues are always going to be relevant. It's sad to see they just became more so.

No shit, but our governments weren't supposed to use the movie as an instruction guide on how to handle refugees either

Ok ill humor you even though I know that this is textbook Holla Forums

Did we watch the same movie where did he kill thousands of people. And how was he rightfully outcast

Worse than cops in America

Im impersonating a poltard and how they always grossly misinterpret everything to fit their narrative

You did a good job.

I'll give District 9 this, it handled capitalist and government incompetence in social issues like refugees, just pushing them away into poverty and making everything worse pretty realistically.

I wouldn't call this movie stupid. Heavy handed sure, and it wasn't exactly speaking on the only small refugee problem at the time; instead being about apartheid. But it ended up just predicting how we deal with a similar problem later.

Purposefully or not and whether you like it or not.

You need to watch "Network"
youtube.com/watch?v=1cSGvqQHpjs

i'm pretty sure district 9 was produced during modernity

You know what I mean, it's been 8 years.

The best thing about District 9 is that it's an effects-heavy science fiction movie taking place in a city other than New York, L.A., San Francisco, London, etc.

Except maybe the dozens of countries they past through to get their welfare handouts. Reminder: only a small percentage of them are actual Syrians.

That doesn't mean they don't have anywhere else to go. Bitch about "economic migrants" all you want, but you still refuse to acknowledge the actual problems that lead to this happening, and so, you forfeit your hand to actually solve it.

You have no solutions for people in the future more than the government and elite you constantly criticize.

Move somewhere else. Just Go.

You just want your fucking suburbs clean

It is said that if you say "refugees" in front of a mirror 3 times, a Holla Forumsack will appear and will bear very convincing arguments and photos.

Most Syrian refugees have been taken by other Muslim nations. Germany's bizarre asylum policies are no one's fault but theirs.

They're smiling and enjoying themselves while being poor! They must be up to something!

To be honest I really don't give a shit about them or their problems. 3rd worlders should be left alone entirely.


I don't live in the suburbs, but what is wrong with keeping them clean?

They should be destroyed

Doesn't matter, stealing money from working people and giving it to foreign invaders is unjustifiable.

What's clean, to you? Suburbs are already covered in grime, you just can't see the building up on people's knees

You give a shit or else you wouldn't be talking about it

Welcome aboard.

Movie was shit.

No you retard, I give a shit about Europe and the western world in general… hence not wanting it destroyed.

You're just looking to bitch about something you clearly don't understand

You're

How noble

Then clearly you should be holding their government's accountable more than mere people

Fuck you and you mother

thanks

Noble wasn't a compliment

I hold the EU globalists accountable.

It'll be that way soon enough

You bitch about them and these nefarious "globalists", more than you take advantage of people victimized by "them". I don't even think you know who they are. You call them globalists but you refuse to really say what's the problem. And that's capital. That's government.

Be specific and don't use limp language when you're criticizing something that's meant to be concrete. Say the German Government, say the Italian government, say the Greek Government, say the United States.

These "globalists", are a way for you to shift the blame onto mere individuals and not structures.

If you want them to stay in their own countries, then you need to support an end to imperialism in the Middle East and a transition to an economic system that doesn't encourage economic migration by design. Even Nazbols recognize this. Your only other choice is to abandon all semblance of civil liberty in your country and embrace absolute dictatorship.

The migrant crisis is a symptom of a disease that has been rotting away at the Western world for a long time.

Limp language? The governments of all of the mentioned countries are irrelevant on the grand scale. International bankers and corporations run the show behind the curtain. Globalists.


Do you really think ending "imperialism" is enough. Left to their own devices do you really think they would be better off? Most likely there would be a massive die off in sub Saharan Africa without the food aid and other forms of "imperialism".

"Globalism" is just capitalism. There is no difference.

Did the alien blow up a concert full of 9 year girls?
Do the aliens rape?
Opinion discarted.
I hate imperialism more than you guys, but this is an active reaction. They should blow up foreign soldiers in their country not civilians here. I'd be totally ok with blowing up some soldiers, not civilian tho.
Mass immigration is porky tool to fucks why we are justifing them?
Also a lot of these refugees are islamists, we don't want other religious people in the continent right now. Countries that are occupying their country should take them all.

They sell dangerous weapons, so yes probably.


They bring up interspecies prostitution


You clearly don't

Woah fuck, really?

I'd rather not have any more capitalists. But you have your priorities

The aliens aren't fucking aliens you retard, this was a movie about South African apartheid. Was that a good idea that was helpful for South Africa's future?

Yes, if only we had a proposed system to vastly lower the influence and power of these bankers and corporations

Totally pro imperialist here. I should kill every american on european soil. Civilians and childs too because they are imperialist.

You get more angry about people displaced than people displacing them, and incompetently managing their places in the world, by economy or war.

You get pissed furiously at the wrong people and your priorities are fucked. Fuck Europe and fuck the USA

Why?

BULL SHIT

I'd rather don't have both. Reminder that if the soviets conquered afghanistan we wouldn't have half of this shit

Imperialism in quotes here we have someone who knows what's up

Who do you think dictates government policy?

That was one of the worst decisions of the Soviet Union, fuck off

People loyal to plain white suburban land, safe and comfortable, pc and clean, crime free, just like you

You people have more in common with the people you bitch about than we do.

No you motherfucking cocksucker piece of shit cumslut cunt. Fuck this. We have this fucking thread everyday.

We wouldn't be having this problem if the Soviets didn't fuck up, it's their fault too

Trump is evidence of this, elected officials mean nothing… merely puppets. The government is a body of elected officials aka puppets.

Who does he represent? Them? Or the US Government?

You aren't even saying what's at fault. Clean up, stop saying "globalist" start saying capitalist.

"The US Government doesn't matter because I can't call capitalists, capitalists"

What about forcibly returning them to Africa or the Middle East?

The "Western World" you love so much has managed to fuck up the world harder by ignoring the consequences of the old elephant in the room, climate change. It's ruined the economies of these nations, and one final fuck you has managed to make the people it's fucked the primary people fucked by climate change.

But blame them. Blame the poor.

Don't blame the United States government, or the EU, it's innocent. Don't call them capitalists, call them "Globalists".

Pray for a white wife in a white house with white neighbors in a white world with no problems, it's the left that's naive

Touchè

Except that term is completely nebulous and can describe a girl running a lemonade stand

Yes, as opposed to globalist

LOL

THE GLOBALISTS

Or maybe we give them back their money we stole.

It's this an excuse to blow up childrens?
We should support isis or al-qaeda then?

That's a consequence. Just like blowing up entire city blocks with drones is a consequence. Mismanaging their economies, creating ISIS, just fucking up in general

It's their fault, not ours.

It's never OUR fault

jews fify

Sub-Saharan Africa exports a hell of a lot more wealth than they take in. Most "foreign aid" is little more than pretense for the continued exploitation of the region's natural resources. Many of the fastest growing economies are sub-Saharan countries, but the vast majority of African people aren't benefiting from it. When left wing political movements tried to change this, the Americans stepped in and crushed them because the CIA had free reign to do anything they want during the Cold War.

Capitalism is the source of your problems, plain and simple.

You're ignoring the point, or the culpability of the United States, and the West, in engineering this situation for their own economic benefit

If they work for the United States and Israel it's still the United States and Israel

Nono it's not my fault. It's not my daughter fault, it's not the civilian fault. I don't think that if my goverment kills people my daughter should be killed, that's literally being a cuck

I'm ignoring the point by saying this?

What if I don't care about my moral duty to give reparations to third-worlders in the form of travel permits for American wars or colonialism?

If you don't like what your government is doing, then hold them fucking responsible for creating the situation outside you dipshit

Just because your daughter dies doesn't make your nation any less responsible

You don't even fucking have a daughter

You do care, white wife in a white house with white neighbors in a white world with no problems.

where did I said that my goverment isn't at fault?
What i'm saying is that giving them my house is not the solution.
Do we know eachother in real life user?

Well, I do care about not getting blown up. If that means an unfortunate Arab gets blown up because he couldn't flee to the EU or US, oh well.

If you don't care if others die, no one should care if you die. We want to solve problems, not ignore them.

Bitching about them, will not stop them. Violence will not stop because you demand it, you expect it. You don't fucking cry at the sky about the humanity like a bitch, you look who's responsible.

You act like I'm the defeatist but all you people blaming others in this individualist way are.

You're no different or no capable of becoming violent under circumstances reactionary than they are.

Then hold your government responsible. It's that easy. Quit shifting the blame.

I hate to break this to you, but the US government doesn't do accountability.

The point is the world you want is fake. It doesn't exist. It won't exist.

Exactly. So something terrible must be happening, you should treat it severely.

There are a lot of countries that have vanishingly small Arab Muslim populations, though. Overthrowing the greatest military power in world history with an effectively infinite budget is, of course, a little harder than telling Muslims to go away.

You won't get those scary brown to go away if the former continues to exist. You don't get, how this works do you

Is your issue with the notion of short term aid itself, or the particularly disastrous way that retarded liberal European governments have handled it?

Besides, immigration restrictions aren't gonna stop Ahmed from blowing you up. Criminals don't give a fuck about the law.

Northrop Grumann and DARPA really will just stop making money off war if we let them have more power than the people they subjugate and western nations continue to displace and terribly manage, this is all their fault as well, btw.

Fuck them.

Help me. USA USA USA

It's actually not difficult at all to topple USA.

According to Holla Forums, Tony Blair is more innocent than ISIS. He helped create them, but really, it's not his fault

Why? The US can't run out of money.

...

If capitalism spontaneously ends due to zero profit rate, then money itself will become meaningless, so the US running out of money would be a non-sequitur. As it stands, it prints the world reserve currency, so unless you have a good idea for how to end this state of affairs, it can't run out of money.

But it can lose control of its own population. USA's constant spending cuts to give the rich tax breaks left its infrastructure fragile. If you go after the power grid, you can cause mass blackouts, which will quickly descend into riots, and then civil war.

So the right action for leftists would be to join the PRC's cyberwarfare division and learn how to hack American electrical infrastructure?

You won't solve your problems by supporting the United States by supposing them fucking unstoppable

Yes.

You're so fucking intellectually lazy

Just some homegroan explosives will do. It's not like power grid maps are unavailable online, or most of it is attended at all.

Honestly, that and "Join a Russian-backed Arab nations' military to fight the US and end petrodollar hegemony and bring about a revoutionary moment" are probably the best revolutionary plans I've seen on here.

The US government already thought of that, they've been fixated on trying to control their own populace for decades.

Of all the plans of mice and men

Obviously. That doesn't mean they have an actual solution.

The vast majority of refugees are cooped up in camps located in Lebanon, Jordan and Turkey. There are 1,000,000+ refugees in Lebanon alone; around 300,000 in Germany which is a much bigger, richer, stabler country.


This is wrong. The majority of asylum seekers in Germany are from Syria. Besides, Syria isn't the only country from which people are fleeing right now — Afghans, Iraqis, Eritreans all have very good reasons to seek refuge abroad.

Not only that, those who are capable of giving people food, clothing, shelter and giving people machines to make food, clothing and shelter, and giving them tools to make those machines, those people will be liked by the people.

The result is that everyone will descend into mode of production for use because you cannot eat money, nor does it clothe you or shelter you from the weather. When people actually do communism, they will be far more willing to accept it. So the conclusion is that communism cannot be preached, it needs to be learned through doing.

Fuck you man. It had a good idea.

False they simple can't tell because the people are destroying theur documents.

As for the rest of it not our job to take them in and frankly taking people from those countries that would otherwise have to do something just to dump them on welfare in Europe or America is highly highly unproductive and damaging to those nations. Plus if you take everyone one that's unhappy with the status quo in their nations why would it ever change, your just acting as a pressure relief that's going to have blow back for Europe or America while only prolonging the suffering in the home nations.

If this happened and Holla Forums was around, imagine how they would react to them.

Probably constant threads about "smashing bugs", or, "Just fucking exterminate them they're not even human,"

It's a precursor to racial relations in the future they want. To dehumanize the Other until it becomes nothing short of an insect.

Really wouldn't give a toss about them at all if immigration wasn't running at between half and quater mill net a year. They certainly swarm in and breed like insects though. You want a district 9 closer to reality have the ship move around the globe looking for the wealthiest nation which has a welfare state they can all enroll onto before parking up and offloading everyone. Then have them send out a call that has three of four ships full of relatives turn up too. Also make sure that there are a series of bank and hedge funded NGO's telling us to accept them and that they're more deserving than you to a house and security in your nation than you.

I mean Blomkamp's three main works are about the kind of repression he saw in South Africa.
District 9: Racial & ethnic tensions, ghettoisation, refugees and their treatment.
Elysium: Basically the prole-bourg divide but actualised in literal physical separation and specifically about healthcare.
Chappie: Police militarisation and commercialisation.

I would dare say Niel is /ourcomrade/

Supporting the mass immigration of 3rd world semi-literates into Europe makes you a useful idiot of the capitalist class. These people are not refugees, they are moving to Europe and the West to seek the "American Dream"(tm) and share in the growth of Western economy. This migrant crisis is a by-product of global capitalism and will collapse liberal-capitalism in Europe if allowed to continue over the next decade. The CIA have predicted that many of these cities and counties in Europe will essentially become functionally ungovernable within 5 years but will stagger on for a decade or so. Interestingly, the bourgeois liberals shilling for this madness do not themselves live in the slums created by immigration. A deep poll by the Swedish government found the people who supported immigration the most enthusiastically were those that moved out of the cities into wealthy, homogeneous suburbs: the liberal bourgeoisie.

The delicious irony, raised by writers like Houellebecq, is that this sort of naive, 1990s liberalism (or end-of-history-neoliberalism), the near fanatical commitment to multiculturalism socially, and open borders economically which benefits only the capitalist class, will bring about the collapse of liberalism! yes, it will! If the 3rd world comes to Europe, Europe will become, and is increasing becoming like the 3rd world. This will bring about the collapse of European neo-liberalism and probably the EU too. This is why so many leftists I rub shoulders with support open borders, because they want to accelerate the death of liberal bourgeois Christian Europe.

Once European modernity is dethroned and staggers about looking desperately for allies, to whom will it turn? it will turn to those that smiled, those that used the system to destroy it from within, and Europe will find no allies their. While the bourgeois liberal believes in equality and says "I have no enemies", when he stumbles into the dusty waste he will look up at those immigrant communities for help and they will say "but we are your enemies", because Nietzsche prophesied that the future belonged to those with the longest memories, and many immigrants coming into Europe have a concealed, and often not so concealed in the case of 2nd and 3rd generation immigrants, hatred for Europe. We are to be despised for imperialism, and racism, and colonialism, and many of these people wouldn't be able to tell you what the West actually was, but they hate it anyway.

What is coming for the EU, and for this exhausted European liberal modernity more generally, can be seen in the suburbs of Paris and the slums of inner London. It is the rise of Islam, and populism on both sides. The sort of idiots, the dull, anonymous mass that make up 80% of the population, don't give a damn about high ideology and only care if they have some bread on the plate or a comfortable cage. The 2nd and 3rd generation muslim immigrants hate the West and they hate Western leftists the most, who they view in the same way Lenin viewed the liberals in Russia. The immigrants cannot be made into a vanguard with which to establish a transitional state, they will simply drag Europe back into feudalism or chaos…

There is an amusing display of cowardice when I talk about this with my leftist friends. Because they recoil, not at the future before us, but at my saying it. They will not discuss Islam, and instead drawl these stale and exhausted platitudes about wanting to smash Christianity, or conservative values, or wasting time on esoteric gender issues that affect less than one tenth of one percent of the population, and so on and so on. I have to respond with Promethean laughter, and give them an occasional kick. God is dead in Europe, no one believes in God beyond a few liberal ninnies and old age pensioners. The society of today would've been utterly inconceivable 60 to 70 years ago, and there are no traditional or conservative movements in Western Europe that have the potential to radically change things. The "right" if you want to call it that has gone down almost completely, as has the "left". The hard-left has almost entirely vanished, because what we live in now is a left-wing capitalism. It is the society of Blair, and Macron, and Obama, neo-liberals who are broadly committed to "social progress", and utter these liberal platitudes while half-disbelieving as they say them.

Christianity is not a threat to progress, conservatism (which doesn't even exist in modernity as a metaphysical structure anyway) is not a threat to progress. Islam, and the 3rd worldism that is being imported into Europe is the threat. And all these moronic anarchists with their fists in the air saying "we invaded the 3rd world man, it's all our fault and we're sorry" will be the first to be shot if anything ever happened in Europe along with these creamy bourgeois types who have never suffered anything in their lives, those Swedish liberals moving into white suburbs to escape the reality of their political vanities. The left of modernity is too cowardly to be genuinely radical, and genuinely dangerous to the current neo-liberal system of things. The prospect of Islam and the rise of left leaning populist, third worldist, cartel-states, should be more alarming to the left than their sensitive feelings, and their nonsensical universalist views.

It's clear that most leftists are still living in the 20th century, that most leftists are either over-cultured milksops or schizophrenic thugs. We are at a synthetic point. If things are to alter during the next fifty years then we must re-embrace Byron’s ideal: "the cultured thug."

See how slow you are what's left of the right that's been shoved into dingy rooms for the last half a centry has been advocating this for a while. Europe will be dead in all but name by 2050.

I don't want to prevent what's happening, it cannot be prevented. When this "convergence of catastrophes" occurs as Faye formulates it; ecological, financial, demographic, cultural, etc; there will be the chaos released to establish a new ideal. The right have so many structural and ideological problems that yes they have been in dingy rooms for the past 50 years, as I wrote, so have the left, but these ideas cannot be integrated into neo-liberalism. Radical islamic ideas and far-right ideas can't be moderated and brought into the mainstream, that doesn't mean that their cultural energies can't be extracted and developed alongside a very anti-reactionary set of propositions in the next century.

And supporting fascism doesnt?


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How do you explain this then

this

I love this movie
A very different feel tha Hollywood, very realistic within the premise

Fore one, it portrays an alien species being oppressed instead of humans
It also showed shady institutions trying to juice the situation (not letting the prawns go to juice their tech) just I'd expect to see irl.
But also made the social issue from the human side very relatable: contention was necessary and the situation was shitty for everyone. It avoided to lecture on that side.

Even the designs were great.
CGI never ages well, but they did a good job adding realism and detail to the desings
A common error is to make everything simple. In reality, anything functional, from bodies to machines, will have lots of tiny shits and knobs. Pic related.
Just look at how satisfactory the launch control scene is. Actual navigation, and not just three switches and a red button. They made the guy look like he's done this for a living for years:
youtube.com/watch?v=PWW_eayAOqU&feature=youtu.be&t=3m10s

The ship desing is remarkable in that it's not a bullshit blob. It actually has complex exposed infrastructure instead of a "futuristic" aerodynamical design.
Aerodynamics is a limitation to our tech, but presumably at one point you'd build spaceships to operate efficiently floating on space, not base the whole design for low air resistance like we need to nowadays.


Bonus:
The prawns' voice made a sweet callback to African Khoisan languages (aka, click languages)

I'm not a fascist, and you should read Junger's The Worker, Asser and Spengler etc. Many nazis were distraught when Hitler betrayed the workers and shacked up with the bourgeoisie. Mussolini was an anarcho-syndicalist, along with Gentile who was also a Hegelian Idealist. They became national-syndicalists or "fascists" because it was the only way to industrialise, and sieze the means of international production from the Northern, bourgeois nations. Mosley was a leftist. The ideological position of fascism is anti-capitalist, or corporatism in Mosley's case where industries are run by workers, and the government is comprised of worker representatives of particular industries. Posting some propaganda picture is Holla Forums tier debate.

But to the actual point, You have a mistaken view of the migrant crisis, it is not commensurable with the "Syrian Refugee Crisis" or the Syrian Civil war. The majority of these migrants are not coming from Syria. They are coming from Bangladesh, Pakistan, Eritrea, Sudan, etc, less that 1/4 of the migrants are from Syria and that is from self-reporting, many simply lie in because they think it will ease their passage across the borders.

You have totally failed to comprehend the scale and significance of the migrant crisis. Even if the Syrian Civil war resolved itself, it wouldn't stop the 20 or so million people from the 3rd world migrating into Europe. Zizek had an interesting video about dreams and the migrants chasing a dream which is not manifest in reality, he asks "do workers strike in a utopia?". Syria is a red herring and is really tangential to the migrant crisis. The floodgates opened with the arab spring and the migrant crisis was predicted well before the Syrian civil war.

Not even Holla Forums, I just can't stand how you all act like useful idiots.
Yes it does and you shouldn't. You can reject both things

*Strasser

Horrible post
The fight should be on making the rest of the world not exploit Africa, be it chinese or European companies. They are fucking up a lot of things there, from pollution to supporting child labor and trading with violent regimes because unstable countries offer the cheapesr resources.

But regardless of that, it's retarded accepting economic migrants from shitholes.
They are overpopulated, and it's the burden of their race, not Europe.

Western Europe was the only demographically fine country. The birthrate decline was a good thing. Everything will go to shit with automation if you get more migrants too.
Holla Forums seems generally in denial that Replacement migration is not just some Holla Forums fantasy.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Replacement_migration
un.org/esa/population/publications/migration/migration.htm
It's a purely corporatist view of nations, where all should bow down to the almighty GDP, because countries are run like corporations and the influx of labor offer just to "improve the economy" should be abhorred by the left.


Europe shouldn't be the relief valve of Africa's demographic mess.

*region

excellent post

The started fires and derailed a train
youtube.com/watch?v=X1FQnlocz_w&feature=youtu.be&t=2m7s

this site constantly forgets my namefagging

I find it hard to believe that all those fleeing the carnage in MENA are simply stupid brown people. To just assume that they're being "dumped on welfare" is specious. It's pretty ridiculous to blame your country's shitty welfare on them too when the problem isn't the people that need help, but the rich people that control all the resources spending them on bombing them and enslaving you in the first place. Money is absolutely meaningless and there wouldn't be a welfare problem in the first place if you weren't letting your politicians give it away to plutocrats and mobsters. So why aren't you working to ensure that there's enough welfare for everyone that needs it? Certainly you must be doing something to change the status quo you're so unhappy with.

The places they're leaving aren't the places that decided to bomb them you dimwit. If bourgeois politics were good for anything, then emigrating, getting the franchise, then voting to put an end to the bombing that drove them there would be a better plan of action for the average person than just staying in whatever region the US chooses to bomb that day.

Even if they did stay, what would you expect them to actually do? If they stayed in Lybia, for instance. What, are they just going to vote out the government(s)? What would that do? Either they'd be pro-western puppets that let the US continue to bomb them or they'll be Islamists fostered and funded by Saudi Arabia in which case they'll be bombed, because over 100 years of Western interference have left those as the only two options. Or even if by some miracle a popular front managed to form and kick both of those out, then NATO would just come in anyway, depose them, and install a friendly government again, but probably not before embargoing their country and suffering a slow death that way. All of that is to say nothing about where they're going to get the weapons or training or equipment to actually oppose anyone.

Taking or not taking the refugees isn't going to effect how long the suffering lasts. It's completely immaterial to the economic concerns that drive the destruction in the first place. Pakistan for example was host to 2.5 million afghan refugees since the US invasion, and since 2015 has been savagely mistreating them in order to coerce them to return and more than half a million have. Can you illustrate for me how this has effected the occupation? Certainly such large flows of humanity would have a pretty noticeable result.

So, why not be honest about what you want. You're not interested in what's good for anyone. You, the benefactor from all their suffering, just want the scary browns to die quietly and conveniently away from view, where their troublesome human needs might distract you from masturbating to anime or posting frogs in MAGA hats or whatever activity you choose to enrich yourself with. It's not like you actually care either about the Europeans or how they're impacted or the Arabs and how they're impacted. You just don't want to have to share your crumbs with anyone else so you're safe and secure as you suck the nuts of those that leave you only crumbs in the first place.

People in this thread acting like characters from this bloody movie more or less prove OPs point. This movie is predictive of the social tensions between society and the Other. And how governments and capitalist forces only make these problems worse, to catastrophic consequence.

Well fuck you, the aliens didn't rape girls at music festivals and forced the swedish goverment to close festivals to man. Fuck you, now I can't go to see the pixies and bang a swedish hottie. I don't give a fuck about looking like a reactionary.

You don't care about people who died there, or in "The West"

The West is suddenly getting what it gave other countries for decades. It's tragic irony.

t. self hating westeners.
What? Should I kill my family because white guilt? This argoument is trash, you are trash and now because 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧le withey deserves it🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧 I can't see the fucking pixies.

Nobody is talking about self hate or white guilt you dumb fuck.

I was just pointing out its ironic. Sorry this hurts your feelings.

Ahahahaha, this is my favorite nazi meme Or as you say, str.asserite because it is so mind boggling ridiculous and untrue.

And they still sided with them against le jewish communists, huh fancy that

How can you say stuff like that with a straight face?

Daily reminder that the prawns were a slave caste whose leaders had died or vanished and despite their high level of tech were unable to do anything other than starve in a ghetto without a system of authority in place.

Slave castes. Not even once.

But that's not the point, it's how humans reacted to their presence which is the point. The point of what they exactly are is an inherent neutral, with how the government or capital reacts TO them, the moral.

Particularly them being aliens, how humanity dealt with them is stupider than any one prawn is capable of being.

No you didn't hurt shit.
It's patetic how people on this board (or on the left in general) would rather eat shit than giving a point to the reactionaries. This is PJW tier. We could bring half of this fuckers on our side just by saying "close the borders" "send them back", half of irl fascist in europe are just people who don't want immigrants (some of them for legit reason too). C'mon is it normal that a country must ban men from music festivals? No it's not. Is their fault? Yes. Is their fault that they are here? No. I don't buy too much into the economic immigrant thing, still it would be stupid to negate that we didn't provoked them. So you want to help them? Send them back and leave that fucking part of land alone, forcing states to do so if is necessary. Letting them in like this tho? You are ruining them because people will hate them more and more justifing the droning of their houses and at the same time creating the situation in which reactionaries will raise more and more, wages will go down and they will rape girls. So basically in both cases you are doing porky a favor.
There could be a communist party ruling in every coutry if we give the right a point on immigration. But no. Let's go beat people who protest against sharia, because they are fascists. This type of shit make us really look bad. Stop with this leftist sentimentality and show some fucking balls, get the job done. In an eventual revolution they'd be against us and we would have to close boarders in every case so why not do that now and gain some points from the right? Politics is made of compromises and we should give up on them already and help them in a real way

Instead of shitting in our plate

you clearly know nothing about theory and in your pursuit down this tangent you've missed the main point of my post, or you know you're wrong and you're avoiding the issue.

What would you do with several million starving refugee slave aliens that weren't capable of surviving on their own or producing anything useful for society without their leaders?

genocide them. ffs just look at what Mao and Stalin did, do we really care if a few million subhuman retard aliens get killed? no.

I didn't know we treated extraterrestrials with higher dignity than we do our own kind. And if we treat things outside of humanity with better care, what exactly does that say about how we treat ourselves?


Considering this is first contact with an extraterrestrial race, no

I apparently did since I skimmed the rest of your nonsensical bile

So you're saying they're proles?

I think this book thinks well of proles

Nice, you really change my mind. I should get raped too

I wouldn't care tbh

Now Holla Forums is going to explain me how we should be even more lenient towards these people.

Good for him

"All migrants are evil thugs and all westerners are innocent angels"

Humanity is a social construct.

As far as I know user, no one labeled that photo Syrian refugees but you. Great job!

That's not what that post implied. I don't think you know what the Other actually even means.

You still haven't answered the question. If you don't like how the prawns were treated what would you have done with them instead?

You're a joke, just like Stirnerfags.

Thank you for your honesty.

This line of logic is the peak of leftist absurdity. It's like fleeing Europe due to islam and asking for refugee status in Afghanistan.


Big or little?

I love how Holla Forums both bats for genocide of everyone that makes their dumpy suburbs that should be caught fire unsafe, but also acts as if they're innocent babies who have never actually acted badly under their own judgement at all. If they were someone else, they'd judge themselves terribly.

The only self righteous whining is from that lot

Islam is the final stage of history after Communism. Read Sayyid Qutb.

Nothing you just posted makes any sense in context of every reply you made

It wasn’t because we liked immigrants, but because we didn’t like Britain. We saw immigrants – from anywhere – as allies against the staid, settled, conservative society that our country still was at the end of the Sixties. - Peter Hitchens

You know the ship from District 9 was a Terraforming Warship, Right?
That is why they had genetically specific weapons of mass destruction and a special chemical agent that would either destroy or convert all life to be genetically similar to them.
Did you even watch the directors commentary?

Seriously I cant stress enough the fact that the Aliens from District 9 were a bunch of Genocidal Racists.
Also they lived in a strictly hierarchical society that still had slaves and the only reason they didn't destroy the earth is because the ruling class was wiped out by a disease (most likely caused by inbreeding.)
The Prons are Terrible People who now (Thanks to Vickers) in the logical continuation of the universe will return and exterminate or assimilate all life on earth.
Fuck them.

wew, boomers were a mistake. Why couldn't they have just done Diversity with Chinese Characteristics instead? At least the Chinese don't blow themselves up.

Nothing you're saying is actually what the director said,

He said that the fuel is used nanotechnologically to be genetically compatible with them, so it can be used ONLY by them. By way of Hollywood science, this infects a person and the person becomes a prawn.

Nobody has said anything about what you're describing.

Even if they did, you don't seem to understand how death of the author works, especially in a film like this.

My poor poor private property

Humanity could use extermination tbh.

good posts

the reich will fix it, right?

yes you did, your parents did, entire generations did and they/you are too smug of a bastard to ever admit it. dindunuffins piss me off the most

If you love the fascists so much I hope you enjoy their company when you're standing at the wall together.

But user. I said that we didare provoke them in the post. You didn't read the whole thing

Many countries have been dealing eith refugee crises for a long time.
You have a very western bias if you think this is prophetic.

All you ever do is advocate I give up my share for the migrants while you and people like you remain insulated from the effects of these titanic shifts in population. Yes I don't want them here because it's always the fucking worker that suffers and it's always an insufferable prick like you telling us we deserve to suffer because somehow we have a moral duty to surrender out stiff to these people. I can't be bothered with that wall of text that amounts to Whataboutism. So no I don't want to be displaced, I don't want my culture displaced and I'm not about to stop believing that just because some middle class prick on the net tells me I'm (apparently) benefiting and thus morally abliged to help .

We have no control and yet we're being told we deserve to be stripped and disposesd by fucker like you over things we have no control over. Get fucked with the guilt complex.

It is when it's ineptitude or outright malace from our leaders that's allowing this to continue on such an industrial scale.

What's the most disgusting about you is how you try and cloak your porky manufactured xenophobia in proletarian terms, as though it's these immigrants that are responsible for your misery.

I'm loving the whataboutism maymay. It seems to be the hot new thing for Holla Forumscucks to dismiss what they don't have stock arguments for. I'm sure it'll get as much play as "strawman" does.

It might comfort you to think I'm some out of touch boojy women's study student smugly judging you from behind the safety of my frapecino, but even if that were true you'd still be a vile little coward shouting in spite the bullshit fucked into your brain by your masters at the victims they themselves made. I'm sure they appreciate your efforts, dedicated little worker. May their good will warm you while you stand in the unemployment line.

There's no point trying to argue with you because you've already just ignored every argument I made so you could spit up whatever rote crap you think justifies being such a human waste. I thought you were pathetic and it's pretty gratifying to be proven so emphatically correct. Enjoy your misery, because I know the bourgeoisie are.

I mean I could dig up the fact that what I said earlier is proven about thembeing mostly on welfare and all that but you're a xenophile. You'd us any injustice to justify the mass migration you don't really care about the damage it does you dismissed me out of hand I can't be arsed with someone this self rightous.

You've already dropped the vaneer and gone right back to the good little liberal shouting "racist racist".

But here this is how many economic migrants (because that is what they are) have been employed in Germany.

reuters.com/article/us-europe-migrants-germany-survey-idUSKBN13A22F

Because bodies by themselves increase GDP while crushing the worker with a massive amount of surplus labour to be replaced with. Get fucked you sentiment (glad to see I hit the nail on the head with this one) middle class limp wristed faggot.

You're blaming them for what government incompetence puts them which way, dislocated, so I wouldn't call it unfair to call you a racist. That hardly makes me a liberal. You're blaming forces far beyond you or them about your own problems, they've manufactured.

You're making identity politics worse.

They're the ones paying smugglers and our private interests are funding NGO's to give them maps to Germany France Sweden and the UK. They're choosing to seek economic status at my expense.

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And what should the government do about that, even if you're right? You're still blaming the market and the government, capitalism, but you just don't know it. You're blaming individuals for a larger problem at hand.

They're going to where the money is and porky is punishing you for it. But I guess it's easier to just kick the dog than fight back against the people actually emiserating you.

So you haven't even remotely justified to me why pressure should be stepped up on me because forces out of my control are doing things. Because that's all you're advocating increasing the pressure on me when it comes to finding houses schools hosiptals jobs that pay worth a damn and arn't zero hour and all of that increases when you dump unskilled barely literate migrants into the economy. Plus if you want to take the tact of the larger picture your plan only prolongs the situation and puts both parties in worse condition. Because the third world will continue to have a surplus of humans for the forseeable future and you won't solve shit by moving a small portion them into Europe untill Europe is flooded.

youtube.com/watch?v=muw22wTePqQ

And yes I blame them for being smuggled into the EU it's an admission they'd never get in legally.

They all are big and small they're all here for their pound of flesh.

Also fuck off back to reddit 3rd worldist.

Are you so retarded that you believe this is the first time a refugee crisis has ever happened? That's like saying Star Wars was prophetic because it predicted wars.

And besides District 9 had more to do with apartheid policies (webm related).

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We are not talking about the us here. We are talking about europe.

Who let this genius in?

To be fair, Start Wars predicted star wars

you have been reading your Jonathan Bowden haven't you

Tony Blair seriously creeps me out, and his charisma multiplies that

That's what they do with Starship Troopers, and most of the time they don't notice that the entire movie is social commentary on fascism. But whenever it's mentioned, they usually say something along the lines of "but they were good at le science an achievements too so that maks it ok"

Yes, and also yourself. This needs to be applied to Western countries: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Japaneseism

Not even the establishment of Communism can redeem the European for its crimes against the Global South.

The authoritarian personality correlates with the prevalence of diseases and parasites.