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Lefty side, as expected, is getting destroyed.
Fucking decide already you retards
My G_d that question was bad.
Markets are not based on spontaneity; they're based on their own planning and forms of top-down domination.
I guess it's what they get for "debating" literal retards.
If any of them are going to argue that its all "da ruling class lone" then i am going to punch them.
Sargon explaining fascism
Ron Paul was shite
Rickrolled again!
YESSSSSSS
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Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
doesn't matter
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i feel like badmouse probably has some good points but is a bit shy :x
Badmouse makes me cringe
Commies actually where good there
Badmouse is fucking useless and probably knows as much as the last time he did a debate (nothing).
>Muke: Markets are anarchic
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I highly suggest the book Marx's Scientific Dialectics by P. Paolucci, even though it's written from a Humanist viewpoint.
Calling Marx's method "Dialectical Materialism" is an oversimplification and a bit of a distortion. Engels was definitely a Dialectical Materialist but Marx was more of a naturalist.
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
They are
Markets in general can be though.
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This
Muke with the cute banter with Sargon
I cant do it
Sorry folks, I cant watch Sargon talk for more than five minutes without feeling violently ill. Continue on without me.
MASTER RACE
Market systems definitely have their own mechanisms of control.
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That's reductive and you should know better.
Selling slaves is also just individual transactions between people
They can be, but they're mainly taking about capitalistic markets
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Muke/Sargon yaoi when?
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No he doesn't, he's a basic "FUCK DREMPF AND FUCK WHITE PEE-OPLE" SJW with a smashie gimmick. What a waste of a slot.
So does anarchism. No rulers, not no rules.
…. they did… though
It's a brilliant tactic to seduse sargon and make him ultra tankie
Watch
Depends on what you mean.
Muke seduced Sargon with that twink butt last night to get them to throw
LOL
Is there a capitalist arguments one?
got a clean version? This could come in handy.
The chat is so fucking salty anytime Marx comes up holy hell.
Yeah but at least that means Muke and Finbol get to talk more.
Oh no badmouse what are you doing
Creationist tier argument
BADMOUSE STOP
it was MARSHALL PLAN that's why
capitalism comes in pencils go out, you can't explain that.
Honestly kill Academic Agent. What a waste of brainmatter.
Is Badmouse COINTELPRO?
What did Badmouse say? I refuse to actually watch it
E T H I C S
what the fuck is badmouse going on about
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
These donations are cancer.
Not much. That's the problem.
anarchopac would have contributed really well in the spots he otherwise said nothing so
He's an ex-ancap.
>I don't care what a communist considers ethical.
-Carlgon
NOT AN ARGUMENT
Also
SOCIALISM FOR THE ROADS, CAPITALISM FOR THE SHOES UYGURISM WILL WIN!
wew
N O T A N A R G U M E N T
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READ STIRNER
He's doing okay nothing too embarrassing, just a shitty pick for a debate. Finnbol and Muke could have done this without him
ETHICS ARE SPOOKS
Imagine donating to get your comment more visible in a YouTube stream.
P E A K
C A P I T A L I S M
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I WAS SUMMONED
SPOOK BUSTING SQUAD ASSEMBLE
Holy fuck, Badmouse fucked up pencil counter-argument
E T H I C S
Omg Sargon deserved the fucking guillotine for that ethics point.
Nearly so far just missing the first part
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MY INTEREST ISN'T PROFITS, MY INTEREST IS GROWING MY COMPANY
Listening to badmouse is making me more and more leninist
Thanks.
drink every time the CEO guy makes an anecdote about his company
HOLY SHIT
SPOOKS
HOLY SHIT FINBOL
haha there it was!
lol
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not even watching the debate, just tell me how badly the left side is doing rn
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SHUT DOWN
S L A V E R Y
muke fucking laughing at the CEO holy shit.
YOU CAN'T GROW A BUSINESS WITHOUT PROFITS!!!!!
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE.
HAHAHA
The CEO is a walking strawman
Right is autistically screeching, Badmouse is doing terrible and needs guillotine, Xeixy is fucking carrying and I dont know why but he's god-tier atm, Finbol is being very specialised and speaks autistically but makes decent points
Imagine him being your boss
Lmao the CEO guy needs to be guillotined
The left side is not too bad, but it's being bullrushed by illiterate and dishonest retarded capicucks
He doesn't even like profits, the poor guy.
FROM OLD THREAD 15 MINUTES AGO
oh shiet he is a mutalist
Fuck that CEO doesn't understand he lives of surplus value
KILL ALL CEOs
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Ftfy
STOP MOVING THE GOALPOST GODDAMNIT YOU CAN PLAN THE FUCKING ECONOMY
FUCK YEAH, FINBOL!
I"m pretty sure Bantu the Rhino is Sam Hyde doing a parody of a capitalist.
FINBOL ROLLS IN HIS TANK AND GUILLOTINES THE CEO Circa 3 HOURS
holy shit
Finnish Bolshevik is GOAT.
Oh fucking badmouse again
SARGON SALT
You CANNOT innovate under capitalism, because the tools are restricted from the worker!
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INNOVATION
CEO is obsessed with markets, literally cannot think outside of markets
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The right getting triggered and losing focus
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The tankie brought up fucking AKs
This stream is real life satire
lol at badmouse CRASHING AND BURNING worse than the niggo at the KulturKampf debate.
FinnoBol and Xexizy could've done fine without AwfulRat
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BEHEAD THE CEO PLEASE I'M BEGGING YOU
This what I heard/seen so far
Cappie side when for ==MIXED ECONOMY== being ethical and pretended to support it when getting railed so meh
MUH INVESTMENT
MUH RISK
He's actually kind of pulling it together.
I love how they always imply workers don't take risks.
STARVATION
God that capitalist needs to be fucking offed lmao
Yeah is been ok not sure what everyone here is going on about. FinnBol is stumbling more tbh
CEO talked about muh risks just now.
YOU GOOFY FUCKS BROUGHT IT UP
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Holla Forums told be FinBol would carry the debate but Muke is the powerhouse
CAPITALISM FIXED EVERYTHING
Rhino going full race realism
YEEEEEEEEEES CAPITALISM INVENTED THE INDUSTRIAL REVOLUTION I FUCKING KNEW IT
GUYS LETS NOT END FEUDALISM IT GOT US OUT OF SLAVE SOCIETY
BadMouse has certainly improved but he isn't reliable, leave him out if there's another team debate. I don't know who anarchopac is but people have said he would make a better participant for the anarchist side.
Scrap the whole team
We need to have draftings and leftie v leftie debates to determine best debators
get the leftie dream team of destruction rollin
Anarchopac would be a good choice.
Tractor? You mean tank
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So, who's winning again?
WHERE IS JASON ROO WHEN YOU NEED HIM FOR THIS DEBATE
BRING IN THE TANKS
Anarchopac or kwame seems solid anarchist choice
I support this idea TBH.
To be honest, the socialists are doing way better content-wise, but Sargon and the CEO are going to look like they won because they sound commanding and "smart".
Holy fuck FinnBol is good at this.
I don't care if he's a giant tankie. The man is godly when he needs to be.
sargon is the one getting clicks and views, so he's winning
Just got here, what I'd miss?
Someone should organise a leftie debate tournament.
This.
This.
SARGON'S MASK IS SLIPPING
If FinnBol was Jewish I'd ask him to marry me.
3v3 debates are a bad idea tbh
both sides are butthurt
SOCIALISM IS STARVATION
Why was that not on bingo
He was shit early on but improving as is mouseball
He'd fuck up harder than FinBol.
That Muke ass really changed him
Lovely, so no matter how good we do, everyone's gonna claim Sargon won anyways.
Sometimes I wonder why we even bother.
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Not the CEO again
whatever happened to Kwame anyway? I haven't heard of him in a while
Literal muh iphones
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No one's going to mention state funded research does most of the work for Silicon Valley?
My rsn on runescape used to be Kwame holy fuck
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Holy shit he's talking about tractors when tractors literally can't be repaired because capitalists won't share the source for the firmware that runs on them. Thanks for that innovation porky!
Well that is because Sargon has a big audience of 16-year old american middle class male edgelords who are incapable of critical thinking. We'll win in the end once the next crisis comes along and the whole social safety net in the West collapses, ayy lmao.
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That would include intelligence.
I just tuned in, I assume the leftists are doing terrible?
And now Muke let's the capitalist side take credit for technology and doesn't challenge them on that
Is Finbol typing stright to Muke?
T H E D I A L E C T I C I S I N M O T I O N
Muke got his boipussy out
Don't know. Maybe he lost his voice while reading the whole anarchist faq
Muke stepped up his game like Rocky Balboa.
Outside this meme can they actually explain why this would be the case?
Perhaps it would help to define the terms first before debating.
Muke should just have this thread up for advice tbh we doing better then ghoustnigga
Badmouse tag in anarchopac
MUKE WITH 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
I'm pretty sure most people will just end up going full Fash, based on the way things are looking.
Life sucks.
Muke should also have mentioned this and planned obsolescence about tractors.
see
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RATTA-TAT-TAT
Yeah I changed my mind about Muke but he needs new friends. Bring in Anarchopac and Leftist economics next time
Tanks are rolling
MUKE IS CUMMING
LOL, wants to respond to a point when no ones there.
P E R F E C T
How do i close the motherfucking chat?
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Only if they're middle-class/relatively financially stable. Poor people are increasingly likely to go far left.
click hide chat
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I want to strangle this bantu guy.
I swear he's doing some ironic satire of a capitalist.
We should have spammed this over reddit just for raw numbers in chat tbh..
literally just one capitalists and two classcucks
Depends on your demographic area tbh
The debate isn't that bad once everyone got warmed up tbh.
You are neglecting rock-paper-scissors situations. Moreover, the audiences are very different. In internal far-left debates, you can use a lot of jargon and expect to be understood. This doesn't carry over for a broader audience, so you need a different style of talking. Winning with one audience is not a great indicator for winning with the other.
And then get kicked out because we're "brocialists"? I think not.
whelp rip
I'll be doing my best to recruit people to the left tbh
they have no power to kick us out of sargons chat
autism
I mean reddit, obviously
This is just lame so far. The leftists need to be much more aggressive than they are now, that's how you win the argument in the eyes of the audience
oh sorry, just don't tell were from leftypol
They would just probably scream "you are a white male" or some shit. It's not worth it
weak
NazTrot
why was he using this as an argument against socialism?
CORN
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because muh state muh authoritarian muh central planning muh inefficiency
Who is the capitalist?
SARGON IS CRYING
awkward bonding
Socialism is when the gubbermint does stuff.
The majority of people watching the debate are Sargon's retarded audience and even if the leftists were aggressive it wouldn't convince any of those people. The smart people on the other hand can think for themselves and see the socialists are holding their own even though the moderator is shit.
now this is autism
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wow this turned reddit real quick
This is kinda nice
shoop da whoop
I don't like this super friendliness bullshit, they should be barely civil, that's how you get an entertaining beatdown.
Really rustles my jimmies when the capitalists make the same age old juvenile arguments and the leftists don't just outright refute them
Apparently Bantu is a CEO despite his extreme retardation.
How do i disable the chat
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When does Muke's boipussy get shared among the members of the stream?
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You just fell for you just fell for the trap
Americans politics is a game and I refuse to play
chat is cancer. I'm out
I think he actually does or someone typing to him at least because right after someone posted in the last thread about how much corn farmers destroy to keep their profits high he mentioned it. He may not have transferred to the new thread tho
Tried clicking "Hide Chat"?
It's when sargon converts to Juche
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Radical Centrism
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Seriously where the fuck is Sargon? Did he actually think they were about to take a 20 minute break?
'I'm a radical outsider'
cuck was uttered
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nm found it.
of course it's cancer. It's Sargon's chat. The only thing you're getting is 16 year old """""skeptics"""""
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He had to shit
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At the bottom
Oh dear
SARGON IS NAZNARCHO
It's below the chat for me. The UI design is just inconsistent like that.
He kinda looks like him
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Here comes the sectarianism
scroll down to the bottom of the chat window
then yell at your mom to bring you hot pockets and call her a bitch for making you clean your room
TANKS ROLLING IN!
Sargon is putting on his socialist costume and switching sides when he comes back
Dejavu
This'll be rich
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Whats badmouse doing, fuck.
kill me
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FUCK OFF BADMOUSE LET MUKE TURN SARGON
He was describing the transition phase. Honestly should have done the "communism is stateless classless moneyless society" line first.
This nigga high af
what
Why the fuck did Schnitz just give Sargon a dollar without posting anything?
yes
Out of all the anarchist youtubers, why the fuck did they choose badmouse
mouse is fine, he's explaining what real life is like under socialism, not a lofty fantasy
memes
Top Ten Anime Betrayals
uhhh
le free market?
Schnitz bringing up the USSR's rapid industrialization, good thing there aren't any ultras on to explain the USSR is actually capitalist.
We should have bullied Schnitz to suicide after the chat split shit
fucking hell talk about EZLN instead of the FUCKING SOVIET UNION
Here comes the tank
Molyneux is the ONE FUCKING DOLLAR guy though.
ALBANIA
TANKS
Shabbat shalom comrades. I have to go put the challah in the oven. See you tomorrow night.
Tankism starting to leak
I'm hearing a fucking tank outside my house
Bad Mouse is to Communism what a weeaboo is to Japan. - some random user
Be glad.
STOP
FinBol is going to ruin this.
what did he mean by this?
oh god no, not now
MARXISM-LENINISM
FUCKING MUKE
Muke calming finbol down
Perfect
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Muke should plug his video on times socialism worked.
muke is good
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MUKE+SARGON 4EVER
They're going to divide them.
Shit's fucked
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good job anons
They should just kick the anarchist out so they don't have to worry about Catalonia
OUR LORD AND SAVIOUR FINNISH BOLSHEVIK LONG LIVE ANARCHO FINNISHBOLSHEVISM WITH SARGONIST CHARACTERISTICS
Real motherfucking magic
Muke "Two Books" Xexizy
Can we start bullying Cuckmouse now?
This faggot always acts high-and-mighty about how much better he is than Holla Forums but gets BTFO in a debate.
Also apologize to Muke
Muke is the MVP here
Oh shit Badmouse bringing the heat for once
Badmouse is truly the weakest link
SOCIALISM WORKS
*TANKS ROLLING IN*
FUCK THE CEO
Classic
HAHAHA SOCIALISM WORKS
CEO is a living meme
This fucking CEO just keep changing topics, total cuck
oh boy
Literally porky.
I've never wanted to hang someone from a tree more.
"Capitalism" has higher standards of living for certain groups through the exploitation of others.
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is he being retarded on purpose?
Stop
CEO is a cunt, water is wet
Lockheed Martin proves socialism doesn't work
WE WUZ CEOS N SHIET
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Sargon just triggered FinBol
THE TANK INTERVENED
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What is this.
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HAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHA
And not just a ceo, ceo of an insurance company so you know he's scum.
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BECAUSE THE CHEAPEST FOOD IN THE US IS UNHEALTHY FAST FOOD SHIT, WHICH IS CAUSED BY CAPITALISM
This is why structured debates are garbage, lies lies lies and nobody can challenge that
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"People aren't starving."
- Sargon
THICC
also
what the fuck
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Getting a call from Harvard for that PHD program right now.
sargon confirmed for chubby chaser
I WANT A SYSTEM WHERE WE HAVE FAT POOR PEOPLE
-Sargon
"I want a system of fat poor people" - Sargon
???
You think he's related to Arthur "Two Sheds" Jackson?
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COMPLETE IDEALISM
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OH MY GOD THIS IS BASIC
Sargon just showed that he's full of shit, yet these fucking idiots will say that they won
Academic doesn't know shit.
I can't listen to this garbage anymore
Last year, the total number of sheltered and unsheltered homeless people in the city was 75,323, which included 1,706 people between ages 18 and 24.
What did he mean by this?
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REALLY MAKES ME THINK
He is actually a moron
The entire debate format is shit tbh.
MARK THOSE FUCKING BINGO CHARTS
See, this is the problem.
The capitalists are throwing the absolute most basic shit at the left, and the leftists can't adequately refute their juvenile arguments
DING DING DING
CO-OPS ARE NOT SOCIALISM
That is the sound of victory, when they just have to make stupid strawmans and sterotype people
WALKING ON EGG-SHELLS HERE WITH SECTARIANISM
they refute them constantly but capicucks have severe dunning-kruger
TANK
I don't think any new ones have happened since I last posted this.
Even if the leftists are dumb ass fuck but the other side is just throwing the typical shit arguments.
Also Badmouse is kinda throwing shit now?
He's not even talking
tbf he's a student which is probably a more pressing concern for him, and he's making his way through more than books by Marx which aren't Capital
This is more than ironic
Kids being fed cheap fatty food is a sign capitalism is working.
fuck fuck fuck he's doing the nostalgia argument
we're failing lads
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I don't know who's more full of shit, Sargon or CEO cuck
"no no you're just wrong"
JUST LET XEXIZY DO THE WHOLE THING
FINBOL IS FUCKING EVERYTHING UP
You could entirely abolish poverty forever with the removal of wage labor
Finn was a mistake
The CEO, but Sargon is more annoying.
This is going to go to shit
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Ugh this is painful.
'you're just wrong' thanks for that argument Sargon.
The leftists can't argue and the cappies are dumb shits.
Finbol is doing good, but he fucked up a bit here
We had an ok run
What a fucking twist that muke carried our team and that all of our guys kept a cooler head than the opponents.
i don't want to watch, it might trigger me
what's finbol doing wrong? I thought you guys were saying he was doing fine ;_;
THE TANK ENGINE IS FAILING
GET THE RESERVE FUEL, COMRADES
Still better than anything capicucks can cook up
T H I S
H
I
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REBOOTING FINBOL
He was talking up the USSR.
SOMEONE STOP THE TANK
Fucking wut
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FINBOL DID NOTHING WRONG
Can't watch atm, what's the deal with the whole USSR nostalgia thing?
FinBol is rushing to shitty, unsustainable arguments like 'Muh Eastern Bloc Nostalgia'
First rule of debating Cappies, you NEVER bring up the eastern bloc, they love it, and you'll never change the topic.
Is the argument they're making.
Wut
W E W
Jesus fucking Christ, I hate tankies.
Why the fuck do you have to defend the shittiest attempts ever?
What the fuck is he saying
Someone post the graph
Because they aren't liberals.
my sides
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this is literally what marx said
YOU DUMB RETARDED WESTERNER YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THE FUCK IS HAPPENING THERE HOLY SHIT WHY DO THEY ACTUALLY THINK THEY HAVE ANY REMOTE IDEA WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT
2/10
CHILE MENTIONED
The media that tells them Putin took on crony capitalism also tells them they're very well informed.
Putin hates gays and triggers liberals therefore it's true capitalism
Muke has listened to "Marx - to make long story short" - Audiobook
PINOCHET
wow
poverty is built into capitalism, that's totally normal!! fine!!
I'm so angry right now holy fuck
Sargon should just fucking kill himself
INTERRUPT HIM FUCKS SALE, THE ENRON CHAIRMEN MADE OFF WITH BILLIONS
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GODZILLA
Who is Bantu Rhino?
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isn't vladdy worth like 200 billion dollars
what de fug
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t. Porky
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a twitter egg with 8 followers
tbh this argument could be easily turned against socialists and "muh socialism killed 200 milion people"
This petite bourgeoisie fuck is really defending instability
CHAOS IS A LADDAH
OH MY GOD SARGON JUST QUOTED GAME OF THRONES
didn't bordiga want central planning
Pinoshit turned Chile into a utopia because he killed commies
Chile is the fucking worst example of a so called capitalist "success". Why do righties always insist on going there? Are they too dumb to look past the memes? Are they so concerned with "muh triggering" to use the brains that they are so lucky to have?
Use something else, anything else you fucktards.
Jesus Christ.
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CHAOS IS A LADDER
I..
LOL
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I appreciate that there will be no markets
-sargon of akkad
And he quoted THE VILLAIN no less.
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The leftists
Hahaha fuck we're gonna bring video games into this hahaha fuck off fuck off
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What am i watching?
people starve under capitalism
They aren't socialists either.
CRASH DIDN'T HAPPEN IN EUROPE!!!!!!
It's ok that people starved but it's ok cause we got Nintendo
Even better is the fact poverty raised during Pinochet's regime!
en.wikipedia.org
NINTENDO CREATED TETRIS
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We're fucking 2 hours into this shit fams.
KEK
is that the new iPhone argument?
Someone should drop this in if possible
Holy fuck! I didn't consider Nintendo! - The last words by Marx
STOP
The Spectacle.
my internet and my english listening skills aren't very good, is he defending capitalism by saying that nintendo wouldn't exist without it?
Debate night, watch 6 confused capitalists disagree to different degrees.
What did I miss guys? I left after the first question
Truly the best thing I ever made.
didnt know about that, thank you!
Didn't Nintendo exist since the late 1800s?
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Will Badmouse ever talk again?
Russia is a literal safe haven for oligarchs.
These people make me lose faith in humanity.
If they had one throat I would
Nintendo and the ottoman empire briefly coexisted
We need to do a leftcom/ultra debate.
God I hope not
Yes…
These people don't know what they are talking about
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How many do we have on YouTube? We could ProSocialism at least.
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*could have
Nintendo is just human nature.
what the fuck
OH NO
This is meme tier
Omg Sargon's douche bag smirk when he thinks he's saying something smart
And Engels was alive
Didn't the videogame clash of 1983 happened due to the free market?
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fucking Nintendo, ruining socialism since xix century
YO DAWG I HEARD YOU LIKE MASTURBATION SO I PUT MASTURBATION IN YOUR MASTURBATION SO YOU CAN DO NOTHING WHILE YOU DO NOTHING
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Holla Forums btfo!
And this chat hasn't been masturbation?
Haha u retards getting btfo
Well these internet debates are "won" by whoever sounds the most confidently smug in their assertions so why the fuck not I guess
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Oh god they are infighting
Much less so than a debate where everyone is from the same tendency.
COMMODITY PRODUCTION UNDER SOCIALISM
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None of the red team are going on the offensive at all. Like even "Somalia is capitalist checkmate" or "Our king has brought more riches than ever imagined. Cease your utopian ramblings and accept his divine authority" would be something
why am i not suprised
Capitalcuck caring about human cost
SOVIETS HAD A DIFFERENT DEFINITION OF SOCIALISM
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rlly mid meh tinkle
We need to get better debaters. I'm up for an internal debate group to decide on future debaters.
It's alright, the capitalists beat themselves when they open their mouths
Sargon talking about human cost, lmao, when he admitted earlier he doesn't give a fuck about poverty.
But at least they're shouting at each other now, I much prefer this to earlier
iPhones as a means of progress dude they lost
This debate is becoming nitpicky bullshit. These are the types of debate scholars tend to evade - because they don't lead anywhere.
It's from the GG thread on Holla Forums.
>>>Holla Forums13025772
NIGGERS
NIGGERS
NIGGERS, LISTEN
NIGGERS
LISTEN
FOUCAULT WAS RIGHT
The left is correct but the right is controlling the
DISCOURSE
KILL THE CEO
Y O U ' R E J U S T W R O N G
BADMOUSE STOP
McDonalds, the pinnacle of Humane society
Is this guy a stick?
Hahaha McDonald's proves the success of capitalism when will this shit end
But he isn't doing anything.
Sargon probably believes he eats 1000 calories a day and can't understand why he's a fat fuck
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At last, the true purpose of capitalism has revealed itself.
McDonalds, Nintendo and the ability for poor people to be fat.
1000 kCal is literally starvation diet. Your metabolism changes if you drop below 1200-1400.
This
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DESIGNATED
I would just like to point out that Sargon has made hundreds of dollars from donations on this stream alone
POO
IN
LOO
CO-OPS ARE NOT SOCIALISM DAMNIT
This fact alone proves that capitalism doesn't work
We're at ~550 posts, guys.
D E S I G N A T E D S H I T E A T I N G S T R E E T S
Wait do we really think that under Socialism we would still have fast-food? I really think that this shit can only exist given the conditions of capitalism
Some of those donation comments are some of the most stupid things i've seen
💩CAPITALISM=POO IN MOUTH💩
💩CAPITALISM=POO IN MOUTH💩
💩CAPITALISM=POO IN MOUTH💩
💩CAPITALISM=POO IN MOUTH💩
💩CAPITALISM=POO IN MOUTH💩
💩CAPITALISM=POO IN MOUTH💩
Why do you hurt my feelings
Academic Agent sounds like a baby boomer
>worker ownership is only possible in capitalism because you need profit
SHOOT THE CEO
nobody cares about you anymore
how old is this meme?
ceo retard is fucking losing it
I-Is Badmouse actually making some good points
Labor power has been crushed in legislation
CO-OPS ARE CAPITALIST GODFUCKINGDAMNIT
he makes a good point about the insufficiency of co-ops relative to capitalism
HOLD ON FIN
YOU CAN LEAVE ANY TIME
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lol smug cappie man
uh…?
MUKE USING HIS GROWN UP VOICE
OKAY GUYS LET'S LEAVE CAPITALISM, SEEMS TO BE EASY
No he doesn't. Badmouse was the one who had to explain co-ops are not as competitive and that competitiveness is not the same as efficiency.
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SPOOKS
Uh… yes?
EXPROPRIATE THEIR SHIT RIGHT NOW, FUCKING PORKY NEEDS TO DIE
THE POOR BOSSES OH NO ;_;
Don't worry. Co-ops aren't socialism.
fuck xexizy, only is doing anything good
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No fucking shit. It's not like they come in waves. New people trickle in regularly.
FUCK CO-OPS STOP DEFENDING THEM
only finbol is doing any good*
This academic guy is the dumbest guy in the debate, he's even worse than the literally who CEO
THEY JUST EXPLAINED WHY THAT CAN'T HAPPEN
He can't understand the concept, he thinks socialism is basically just distributed feudalism where you pass the business down to your children
just fucking kill him already
MUH NINTENDO
aAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Fugging nintendo :DDD
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cheap bugers are no one's passion jesus christ
worker co-ops are more productive when compared to top-down industries. still not socialist tho
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just stop
oh no, here comes human nature
GET READY FOR SOME IDEALISM
OH NO
You can't escape it
nintendo is the new human nature
USE THE RATIONAL SELF INTEREST ARGUMENT
HOOMAN NEYCHUR
Perfect fucking timing
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Did they only bring on the CEO as some sort of gotcha against the lefty college kids? Don't really get why he's there otherwise.
Read Wilde
yeah
lmao it had to come out sometime
MENTION STIRNER
Anglo individualism was a mistake
HE BROUGHT UP SEXUAL COMPETITION
COLLECTIVISE THE MEANS OF REPRODUCTION
tfw ceo thinks gamergate is reality
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He already did once
THE GENTLE BETA MALES SHALL NO LONGER SUFFER
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I wonder what he meant by this.
CEO probably reads that Gorilla mindset
Here is where I wonder comrades. I feel like shit like this is why the left loses.
who THE FUCK wants to listen to a fucking communist talking about why the USSR wasn't real socialism?
Why can't you argue about the points that made you turn communist? Why can't you argue that the "need" for profit hinders advancements and technology?
Why can't you even bring up healthcare, crime statistics, or drug addiction? I don't understand why you don't go for these easy grabs
Why can't you argue about killing people or making life worse for profit? Why not bring up obesity/smoking/health statistics, and bring up why capitalism causes it?
Why can't you guys even bring up the topic of fucking pollution or corruption?
Instead it's none of these things, it's discussion on the MOST RETARDED shit possible. Do they give a FUCK about the USSR's definition of socialism? No. Stop fucking arguing it.
These people are fucking clowns, at least Badmouse isn't shit.
FREEDUM
He looks like Cernovich a bit tbh
I doubt any of the capicucks can read at all.
weeew he actually said that
You gotta be free to drop out, that's total freedom!
I honestly know no theory whatsoever but I feel like I could argue for socialism better than these guys. I don't know, fuck, maybe I should throw my hat into the ring next time.
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definitely this
HOLY SHIT THIS>
THEY PLAY INTO THE CAPPIES HANDS LIKE FUCKING CLAY
ONLY BADMOUSE SEEMS TO REALIZE THIS SHOULD BE ABOUT ACTUAL THEORY
This.
No, that's exactly what it shouldn't be about, it should be about tying them up in their own bullshit and giving simple practical-based points that everyone can understand, that's how you win an argument in the eyes of others
BADMOUSE IS THE NEW LENIN
they were asked "has socialism ever worked"
it is relavant
He needs to just go full Stirner here.
dude desire > will lmao
Please, please don't mess this up
MENTION KROPOTKIN
He hasn't read Stirner.
Here's some sexy Muke OC
GLORY TO OUR FINNISH BOLSHEVIK
we can only hope
What timeline are we in
Finn just fucked up with the brainwashing bit
I hope he does.
He really tears apart those human nature/self-interest arguments.
Finbol is our only help
I love how Finn redirected the topic to his only love-USSR
FinBol please just shut up
Or fuck, badmouse should just bring up kropotkin instead of falling mute.
STOP TALKING ABOUT THE USSR
The duality of man.
Okay, we've actually got them on the backfoot, since Sargon is carrying the caps and very poorly.
BWAAAAAAP
Finbo is our only help
jej
OH SHIT HE BROUGHT UP EQUAL OPPORTUNITY
If it was just muke and sargon(which was the original plan) it would have been a bloodbath.
FinBol needs to stop talking
True.
I just didn't want to just beat them I guess, I wanted a massacre, but that's my own problem.
See why couldnt the rest of the debate be more like this, the leftists bringing up the bullshit of the cappies and making them look stupid as fuck
Can we have an AnSyn/Ancom or a Leftcom next time instead of a Tankie?
HOLY SHIT THIS SMUG
yes
Thank you for the question, I'm just gonna dwell on the previous points ^-^
KILL THE CEO
THE AWFUL SMUG CEO NEEDS TO HAVE HIS SHIT EXPROPRIATED.
You have no right to tell me I can't drive humanity into oblivion!
I wonder how many Lamborghinis this guy has in his garaaage
HELP THE TANKIE IS COMING OUT
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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BANTU BROUGHT UP KROPOTKIN WTF
He's trying to turn Kropotkin on his head.
Niggas need to break out Stirner.
It's the only way.
WHAT IS THIS?
WHAT IS MY LIFE?
how rich is this ceo? why is he doing this debate?
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I could kill that shitstain with my bare hands right now
"Why am I purchasing grain just to burn it?"
None of your business! Because I think burning grain is awesome.
Because he's a shill?
HE KNOWS ABOUT KROPOTKIN
THE CEO KNOWS BEST
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Badmouse plz quit shitposting on leftypol go back to debate
I literally laughed out loud at 'the workers cooperate because the CEO knows best'
THE WORKERS ARE COOPERATING TO DO WHAT THE CEO SAYS BECAUSE HE KNOWS BEST
WHY ISN'T EVERYONE A CEO IF IT'S SO EASY?
Holy shit, I'm becoming a tankie. Pls stop this
My daddy gave me this company so I know best meme
This CEO dies first
This
Holy fuck he's got wild eyes right now, is he having tard rage? Someone triggered him by saying 'maybe you dont have the right to hoard supercars'
The more you know about porkies the more tankie you'll become.
Ahahahahahaha hahaha.
CEOS ARE NOT HUMANS
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Does anyone know anything about the CEO? Name of his business?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
What is this this Randroid memery?
YOU'LL ALWAYS NEED MOST PEOPLE TO BE WORKERS AND LABOR IN A CAPITALIST SOCIETY YOU IDIOT
muke just shut em down
I KNOW WHAT PEOPLE WANT BETTER THAN THEY DO
MOST PEOPLE ARE FOLLOWERS NOT LEADERS
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SOCIALISM IS BAD BECAUSE IT'S A TOP-DOWN SYSTEM
Would they be fine with 1 person owning all of the world's wealth if he "earned" it?
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Yeah I'm seriously thinking he's full of shit.
dont forget I CANT TOLERATE THE AUTHORITARIANISM OF SOCIALIST REGIMES!!!!
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STOP TALKING ABOUT THE USSR AND CO-OPS
Holy shit, shut these dumb fucks down on socialism vs communism
I'm becoming a tankie listening to these capitalist.
Theory: the CEO retard is an actor brought by Sargon to try to get the opposite team to get angry and lose control, and also irritate the leftist viewers and cause a spike in ratings.
There's no way this guy isn't an actor, he's acting like a living parody of what everyone thinks bosses are, and keeps pulling cliché arguments you see every day on Facebook.
That's basically the definition, but need changed to want.
I still believe in democracy and human rights and shit but only once these fuckers are dead
I'm trying really hard to no turn into a tankie, but holy shit that CEO…
They are literally representative of all capitalists, royals, and nobles.
Lots of real people are living parodies.
They are cliches for a reason.
How much you produce is strongly dependent on factors outside your control (weather). If you can sell 80 % of it at unit price X and 100 % at unit price X/2, you make more money if you just sell 80 % at unit price X and destroy the rest.
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You know what kind of people they are, right?
NO LET MUKE CONTINUE
D O M I N A T I N G
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Twist: It's actually Sam Hyde in an expertly crafted boss mask
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The argument that Capitalism allows the most capable rise to the top makes me so fucking angry. Porky Jr. who has no fucking skills will be my boss and I'm going to have to kiss his ass even though he's an incompetent twat.
I know so many people who are extremely talented who are likely never going to succeed because the market values profits over social good. Kill porky.
ALMOST EVERY SINGLE GODDAMN ACCUSATION THOSE FUCKS PLACE ON SOCIALISM IS LITERALLY CAPITALISM AND XEXIZY AND CO ARE NOT POINTING OUT THEIR ABSURD LEVELS OF DOUBLETHINK FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU-
I'm gonna try get in on the next one of these, I can't possibly do any worse than these fuckers.
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muh communism is bureaucracy
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Don't say HAHAHA, remember some people watching this are kids completely knew to these topics. Better just say that regardless of how talented humans are, that everybody can be a boss at the same time is simply mathematically impossible. Who would be the employees, then.
Holy shit, they keep interjecting. Shit is annoying af
CO-OPS ARE NOT SOCIALISM ,EVEN THE TANK IS DEFENDING THEM GOD FUCKING DAMMIT STOP REEEEEE
Is this just some convoluted BO plot to turn everyone into tankies. Cause its working.
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Jesus christ what's wrong with these people
I don't think they're checking the thread, dude.
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I was expecting a debate about socialism, and instead got flavors of capitalism.
Or completely new, even.
Co-ops can be socialist. They just aren't in the current world because their focus is on capital not labor value.
That leftist sigh
ants are communist bois
do it
ANTS
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Its the collective sigh of the people
This