Is Islam compatible with communism?

Is Islam compatible with communism?

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Organized religion in general is anathema to communism, but individual belief, while silly and baseless, isn't important enough to pose any real threat to a socialist project.

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If you aren't radicalizing qt brown girls and planning to make them commie mommys you're a lousy leftist.

I don't understand. Are you disagreeing that spirituality is silly and baseless?

Because it's pretty much an established fact that it is.

But they believe in the most spooked shit

No more, no less than other religions.

Personal beliefs are compatible (though likely to wane as a result of increased secularization). Organized religion and theocracy, obviously much less so.

As proud leftists we should do everything we possibly can to accomidate Islamic beliefs.

of course

Islam has a contract-based proto-capitalist market economy written into its books. Christianity is far more compatible with communsim tbqh.
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Organized religion and communism dont mix because communism refuses to share a space with anything it cant supremely dominate in

Our very existence is silly and baseless.

Does anyone have those images comparing Islamic scripture and Marxism.

Only if you want for it to be.

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If it spreads like a virus and limits the infected in some way, it's harmful not matter how individual it seems.
Even it it only takes away simple pleasures in life, it's a huge detriment when it spreads to individuals exponentially.
Islam is worse than only that.

When Joseph Stalin consolidated power in the second half of the 1920s, his policy regarding religion had changed. Mosques began to be closed or turned into warehouses throughout Central Asia. Religious leaders were persecuted, religious schools were closed down and Waqfs were outlawed.[6] The Soviet government interpreted the paranji veil Muslim women wore as meaning the were oppressed, and began the Hujum to stop the practice.[4][7] The Hujum mainly backfired, and the veil became more popular than ever among the workers, whereas it had formerly been worn only by the Bousegoise.[8]

Nonetheless, Stalin's cult of personality left little room for the practice of Islam, or any other religions


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Sultan-Galiev wanted to give Marxism an Islamic face. He argued that Tsarist Russians had oppressed Muslim society apart from a few big landowners and bourgeois. He was, despite this attempt at synthesis, thought of by the Bolsheviks as being excessively tolerant of nationalism and religion[10] and, in 1923, he was accused of nationalist, pan-Islamic and pan-Turkic deviations and he was arrested and expelled from the party.

He was freed, but with Lenin's death in 1924, he lost his only protector, and remained a political outcast, constantly watched by state security. In these years he spent his time travelling for the Hunting Union and writing occasional reviews and translations. He was accompanied by his second wife Fatima Yerzina, whom he had married in 1918, and their two children.

In 1928, he was arrested a second time and sentenced to be shot in July 1930. However, in January 1931 his sentence was commuted to ten years of hard labour for nationalism and anti-Soviet activity. In 1934 he was released and given permission to live in the Saratov Oblast. At the beginning of 1937 he was again arrested, and was forced to make a confession; he was convicted of being the "organizer and factual leader of an anti-Soviet nationalistic group," who led an "active struggle against soviet power" and the party "on the basis of pan-Turkism and pan-Islamism, with the goal of tearing away from Soviet Russia Turkic-Tatar regions and establishing in them a bourgeois-democratic Turan state." In December 1939, he received the death sentence which was carried out on 28 January 1940 in Moscow

There's a verse in the quran talking about squatters rights which basically concludes with its a sin to lock the doors on an uninhabited house. Also look up Zakat- it's one of the five pillars, and it's often confused for charity but it's more accurately a tax based on total wealth and distributed to the local poor- so essentially a community level redistribution of wealth.
Not saying Islam is perfect soil for leftism, but there is potential.

No. Religion cannot and will not exist post-capital, at least not institutionally (as it first did and does). Islam or Christianity or Judaism, there is no exception, even as a tool (it is ruling ideology). If we can speak of religion post-capital it will be reduced to a mere communal and freely associable thing, as it quite ironically was first described and propagandized as being in religious literature (when in reality religion always took the form of institution first and foremost). Religion functions on the motor of capital accumulation and is thus like any other type of firm, as weak as it already may be today (at least in its traditional form, because religion will forever exist for the precarious in a class society as panacea, even if it needs to adapt itself to modernity).

Lol, so what.
Jesus litttrly walked into a bank once and started whipping niggas


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Hebrews 13:5

5 Keep your lives free from the love of money and be content with what you have, because God has said, “Never will I leave you; never will I forsake you.”


Matthew 19:21

21 Jesus answered, “If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.”

Shia Islam, Catholicism, and reformed Jadaism are the only commie religions. Protestants, Sunnis, Salafists, and Orthodox Jews go straight to the wall. But that's just my two cents tbh.

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There's about 60 different varieties of Sunni Islam, pretty sure one of them will be pretty commie (i.e very similar to catholicism)

catholicism is communism?

I'm sure there are some salvageable Protestants and Sunnis, i'm just saying it's a religion that skews towards reaction. Now here's where someone will come in and say all religion is reactionary, but Catholicism and Shia both have strong traditions of Liberation Theology.

Try listening to ACTUAL Muslims.
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I doubt religions will be a major obstacle for the real movement to abolish capital. Actually i think capitalism is actively undermining them.

Im going to say this as a guy who went to Sunday school and did my communion, but the catholic church isnt left leaning. It is actually in an eternal fight between what are called liberal modernists and traditional Catholics.
Catholicism is about tradition, sitting quietly in mass while the priest sings in Latin.

Well, thats how its supposed to be.

Pope frank is real good with PR, made you idiots think he actually has changed anything

You should donate money because its a good thing to do, not because your religion tells you to.
This is the trick muslims play.
Like as if the jews havent built a bunch of hospitals, or there is no red cross.

I will say the most radical left wing Catholics do come from south america though

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Islam is compatible with Islam and nothing else.

Short answer: yes.

Long answer:

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Is communism compatible with head-chopping salafi reaction? Probably not, though I think they'd be quite safe if they just lived on communes like the Amish.

Anything is compatible with anything.
The human psyche is incoherent.
Anything can be cherrypicked.
Doublethink is appliable everywhere.

Because they really don't want to spread their message

Organised religion is the most spooked shit so it's incompatible with any decent form of communism.

that painting is fucking buetiful

whoa that's deep

Isn't that part of its appeal in a society dominated by the all-consuming, all-creating Spectacle?

Way ahead of you

Daily reminder to all fedoras
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fuck, shitposting flag

Nope.

Annnnnnd, Islam is not even compatible with Islam.

this is revolutionary

shit tier b8 faggot

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Only through Islam can full pansexual cultural Marxism be achieved. I know this because the Frankfurter school exists.

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is christianity compatible with communism?

if so then yes

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_socialism

you guys should learn something about islam before shitposting, its literally just plagarized old testament christianity in every single way. there is 0 difference.

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i know marxists, some of the staunchest communists i've ever met (who would rather swear on a picture of stalin than a quran), who are in the pflp and who pray 5 times a day.

its teachings are inherently communistic in the broadest sense of the term
while there's (obviously, considering the texts are old) no specific mention of worker control over the means of production and the like, catholicism teaches things such as universal compassion for your fellow man and to help your fellow man whereas protestantism teaches to help your fellow man IF they're a devout protestant and not a homosexual etc. and in addition to that, the protestant work ethic simply does not exist under catholicism
devout catholics do not believe in work for the sake of working or accumulation for the sake of accumulation and anyone who is catholic and does believe in these things is a phony

Islam is more socdem-like considering the content of Zakāt and Khums.

If you teach muslims critiques of capitalism then you have a strong chance. TBH most hate capitalism anyway but actual arguments help.

Religion makes people stupid and is against materialism. Sure some religions can have an emphasis on sharing and community but people's interpretations of that can change unpredictably, because it is based on metaphysical spooks and not reality.

Religion grows obsolete and will be abolished eventually, most people aren't believers, they just go through the motions of muh traditions. We should aid people trying to move towards communism while freeing them from their spooks.