What if socialism isn't possible(or desirable) because of "Human nature"?

We are perpetually destined to repeat the same cycles, the only thing that changes are the current players and place. Hence the eternal reocurrance by Niestzche.

cheka m8

Are anecdotes scientific now? Do you have and sources that prove that the observations you have are instinctual to all humans and not the result of other influences?

Very scientific, indeed. I guess then the sun revolves around the Earth.

You disagree with me, proving exactly what i'm saying. Why do you disagree? Because of your emotions: you don't want it to be true. Humanity is in perpetual denial.

O man, take care!
What does the deep midnight declare?
"I was asleep—
From a deep dream I woke and swear:—
The world is deep,
Deeper than day had been aware.
Deep is its woe—
Joy—deeper yet than agony:
Woe implores: Go!
But all joy wants eternity—
Wants deep, wants deep eternity."

come back when you want to talk about actual socioeconomic realities fag

KEK
I disagree with you because you have given no evidence to support yourself. This is pretty pathetic Holla Forums.

pls come back after you contextualise your understanding of the world

Human nature is i see it is defined by our biology. It's the blueprints that gives us the set of actions possible. And the set has a limit, so things are predictable. Unless you somehow become a cyborg abomination, that can change the modus operandi of people, so you can create your own idealized communist race of people, and be their president.

Though, who knows if Cyber-Enhancements will even be possible? Our mind can imagine many things, but it's not known whether anything our minds can imagine is possible in the physical world.

We're just monkeys who got too smart…

What is combinatorial explosion? (Answer: the reason homo economicus is a meme.)

Consider, for example, your regular visit to a supermarket. The typical supermarket has between 10,000 and 50,000 items, but let’s segment them into just 100 different groups. How many different shopping trolleys could you fill if you limited your decision to simply whether to buy or not buy one item from each group? You would be able to fill two to the power of one hundred shopping trolleys with different combinations of these goods: that’s 1,267,650,600,228,229,401,496,703,205,376 trolleys in total, or in words over 1,000 million trillion trillion shopping trolleys.

If you could work out the utility you gained from each trolley at a rate of 10 trillion trolleys per second, it would take you 100 billion years to locate the optimal one. Obviously you don’t do that when you go shopping.

Now here's your homework: Tell me how many possible actions a human being can take.

What are these predictable actions? Do you have any sources that backup that these supposedly predictable actions are repeated in every kind of environment?

While it is true that randomness exists, in Mathemathics you are (theoretically) merely evaluating physical objects, not human behaviour, which is influenced by our finite material conditions. So you can see that human behavior(the manifestation of our abstractions in the physical world) can be very predictable.

Abstract things only remain true in the abstract world.

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Where did you infered that from? i previously said this whole revolt against captalism is also human nature, though merely the act of a screaming monkey in a cage.

This shit's been debunked a million times. Read pic related or if you want something short: marxists.org/reference/archive/wilde-oscar/soul-man/

OP give one source on your human nature meme. No anecdotes, no word twisty games, just a solid scientific source for your understanding of human nature.

Maybe you're right.

We transcend humanity and take evolution into our own hands.

My Gott, the levels of pretentiousness and pseudointelligence are off the charts

Then why were early ancestors of homo sapiens communal in nature? Keep in mind, both the earliest ancestors of humans (australopithecines) and later Upper Paleolithic cultures (basically hunters and gatherers) were both communal, regardless of the evolutionary change. It would be more correct to say that human nature, as a concept, is fluid. However, if one were to think of human nature as static, capitalism would be the antithesis of human nature, considering that it is ultimately against the communal habits that our ancestors have displayed.

barbarism then, i guess.

We'll all be killed off once automation happens and our labor is no longer required and angry people milling around in ghettos become a liability.

How can human nature exist when every time it's brought up it's just whatever values that poster feels are important

And come to think of it, if you really wanted to define anything as "human nature" it's that humans invariably imitate other humans. It's a behavior every human exhibits from the youngest to the oldest. Capitalism exploits those social functions through school, the media, etc, but IMO it's one of the strongest "appeal to nature" arguments for communism that you can make, at least so far as "nobody will work without a gun to their head" is concerned.

Just take a look at youtube and the endless videos on it off people making stuff or doing covers of stuff or whatever, with the only compensation for most being either the pleasure of doing it or/and the social recognition their work brings them. People see something that excites them and their thought is more generally " I want to do that to" rather than "I want to do this just to make money."

Moneyfags are the minority and always have been, just like they've always been ruining everything else for everyone else.

Sorry, but no, the laws of physics don't work that way. The Roman Empire didn't have nukes.

Of course not. That was the realm of KINGS.