Debate Thread

really fires up the neurons

Muke has nothing to do with left communism. I would say he is closer to trotskyism.

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We’re going to make Sargon a fucking Marxist.

Muke’s ideology is Mukeism

I wouldn't even call it debate, it'll just be hours of morons spouting rhetoric all over the place, I sure hope Muke and Badmouse have their statistics and data prepared.

Look at Mukes recent Twitter feed. He's been spouting Leftcom lingo since a while now and has openly admitted he wants to be educated in it.

Stop replying you idiots.

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all the right side has to do is to beg the question on "what is socialism", and "if is the USSR is bad".

i mean he's just spouting marxism tbh

You say that like this isn't the first time he's ever properly changed his views on Marxism. Are you getting him confused with rebel?

Eh, it comes with an attitude, can you not read between the lines? He's not just quoting Marx, he lashes out against other tendencies while knowing nothing about them.

What the fuck happened to Rebel?

i just see him talkin a lil shit about tankies and anarchists.

hyped for armchair muke doe

What do you mean by this?
Well, he is currently illiterate, good for him.

He went literally insane.

I don't care for Rebel, he's got personal issues, and there is nothing wrong about changing an ideology per se. What is wrong though is to claim to make comprehensive videos about stuff where you've merely read a short introduction about. Like he literally made a video trying to portray all socialist ideologies while only having read State and Revolution.

All the left side has to do is use the extremely broad definition every leftist agrees on (an emancipatory project where there is no production for exchange-value). Even ML's agree on this point.
I don't know the other two, however, if they have the same meme knowledge as Sargon then there shouldn't be a problem.

fucking tankies.

I'm kinda worried, I hope they all just stay calm and respectful.

I know Sargon believes in the "Cultural-Marxism" meme. I hope Muke can explain that that Nazi-Era Propaganda is nonsense to him.

I would suggest making a new thread when the debate actually starts OP - it's better to have discussion without a hundred or so off topic replies above it.

Couldn't deal with mental issues and repressed transgenderism so he decided to abandon politics altogether after his crossdressing photos were spread around and he fell into a pit of depression and getting himself raped on purpose. He's now settled down taking hormones and living a mostly apolitical life wearing dresses and indulging in his autogynephilia and masochistic roleplay with a fascist as their submissive gf (male).
I wish him all the best tbh.

Godspeed lads

Jesus fuck, who knows he's such a mess.

He still talks to a decent amount of left twitter on his new account, and left twitter talks.

WHy on earth are they doing it at 10pm GMT? 4/6 people there are british and one of them is in Finland.

Tankies and Anarkiddies are both the biggest camps on the left. You act as you are talking about fringe groups. Another example: He commented under DemocraticSocialist01 video about Mao saying that he didn't know much about this before and that this video made him think. Then, I don't remember if it was Twitter or a video, he absolutely shittalks about MLMs ruining the left - this is behaving in bad faith imo.

It's an arrogant and smug move to claim that MLs didn't know about commodity production and law of value. That's literally Marxism 101. Why do you claim others don't know this? It just makes you come over as a prick. There is nothing wrong with quoting Marx per se.

What's this? I've heard people claiming before that Holla Forums is a bong colony before, is this true?

yeah, it was strange to watch the nice boy who i discussed militias with fall apart and disappear. It was always clear that he had problems and a difficult family life but it was still sudden. I think getting some distance from everything will do him some good and he doesn't hurt himself for attention too much.

Um, when did that bit happen? "Raped"?

I kinda feel like thats a lie.

The audience is mostly burgers.

That's maybe 90% of the left and 99% of the left that has an irl presence.

Maybe it's because they claim the USSR was Socialism.

He probably meant, trying to find someone who was interested in fucking him in the ass while he was acting submissive.

He went out at night and eventually some guy pounded his ass. He also might have aids.

He's true tho (no that he is better). And how does that make him a leftcom again?

4/6 debaters(muke, bm, sargy, and one of the skeptics) are bongs and one is FB.

He claimed on twitter to have been harassed walking in a park at night while crossdressing, he later implied he was raped and a lot of people got worried. He is absolutely the kind of person to engage in dangerous behavior for attention tho.
He's now been consistently roleplaying with an online fascist 'daddy' as their trad wife.

That's just semantics though. Commodity production and law of value existed in the USSR (although I'd like to object that both operated very differently than under capitalism, but let's not derail this thread), the question is was it still capitalism and a lot of Marxists say no to that. Therefore you need to come up with a term for it and talking about "lower stage communism" all the time is a pain in the arse.

Prepare the twitter memes!

No on the panel. Muke is, Badmouse is, Sargon is and so is AA.

Yep, the right side just needs to ask that question.

FB is going autism mode while Muke and Bad Mouse try to virtue signal themselves from Stalin.

You just refuted yourself. I stopped reading there.

I don't know why you want to go out with someone who panders to people with helicopter memes. I tend not to be having beers with people who publicly say that they want to kill my family on the internet.

Maybe he's playing Holla Forums memes by infiltrating fascist org and turning them gay?

On what channel will be streamed?

Well I'm not a mentally ill tranny so I wouldn't know. I mostly just fuck liberals and cry about no leftist gf here.

Fascists are already gay. It is the most homosexual of all ideologies.

I believe mukes and TAA's

Perfect, flawless debate team:
FinnBol, Ismail, Eastern Marxist

Prove me wrong

FB tonight

Forgot Jason and some other twitter tankie.

Shaun and Jenn took hours to debunk Sargon in detail on their channel. Since he's the "star" on the right in this debate, I'd readily drop even FinnBol just to have him on the team.

here's finnbols band guys youtube.com/watch?v=gVHEatH8Qi4

It's not that white nationalism threatens the status quo more, it's just that it's more unpopular.

America and the countries it brainwashed thoroughly disavowed any passing relation to Nazis, which was easy enough because Nazis were basically opposed to the kind of egalitarian liberalism at the heart of American values. Some people hate communists just as much as fascists, but the cultural elite are overwhelmingly liberal and see communism as a naive, unrealistic project which sadly backfires every time it's attempted. They think a college kid might believe in communism, but once they understand the real world they'll be "centrists" just like them.

Really?

does Ismail have a yt channel?

Also remember that the typical liberal/conservative argument against Nazism is that it is a form of socialism. They just think within the collectivism vs individualism meme.

I… I don't know how to feel about this…

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What's your problem with Black Metal my dude. There are some great communist Black Metal bands out there, like Panopticon. It's just that Finnish Black Metal bands always sounds overly punkish and low sound quality.

book of sand is pretty great aswell.

10/10. Are their music also somewhere beside youtube? they are not on piratebay

punaterroriband.bandcamp.com/ ere you go

With tiny amateur bands like that it's likely that they are just on YouTube and that you'd have to attend a gig of them if you want to buy their stuff

I found them at bandcamp though:
punaterroriband.bandcamp.com

And Metal Archives:
metal-archives.com/bands/PunaTerrori/3540415155

There is a part of me who hopes that Finnbol starts a shitting on Bad mouse and muke, all for the meme value. But seriously, this is a good chance to convert some of those edgy right wingers. I fucking hate academic agent btw hope his family dies

This is the ideal debate trio

I have seen Roo BTFO most of the r/Socialism mods in a discord chat.

Its one of my favorite YouTube videos.

Holy… I don't even know what to say

While he was eating a sandwich, mind you. Roo has been in this game longer than anybody else, he could probably really do whip the floor with all three of them.

This

Americans have very low I.Q.

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shining city on the hill everyone

This tbqhwyf desu.

I might expect BadMouse to bring up how many people die yearly to causes that could be prevented if we weren't living under a capitalist economy. The right-wingers might respond to this by arguing with him over the specifics of how you would prevent those deaths under socialism, which he might not have a good enough response to, though one of the other two might.

This gonna be their greatest weakness btw. The rational sceptics love their "facts" and "hard evidence". If Academic Agent has indeed all these lolbert books on Africa he claimed to have, he won't be an easy target.

Replace Ismail with Anarchopac and I'd agree. Nigga managed to embarrass Molyneux in a debate and whatever you say about Molymeme he's much, much smarter than Sargon.

One of them is an insurance company CEO and the other is almost Holla Forumstard tier is what I gather from his Twitter at least.

Panopticon is an anarchist

Lol
mobile.twitter.com/xexizy11/status/885666918992154624

The Rhina guy comes over as an absolute spastic. Literally the first thing he said on his Twitter was
I'm betting my ass he's gonna be like "why can't you commies just get a job?" or say something similar. 100%.

Democraticsocialist01>Muke tbh.
What's the drama between these two?

someone here needs to link to them the SK thread we had few days ago so that they respond properly if one of those jokers tries to pull out that card
web.archive.org/web/20170711224832/https://8ch.net/leftypol/res/1850589.html

DemSoc01 is unironically right about Muke being a dumb attention whore. It's too bad demsoc is such a drama queen himself that no one will listen.

Also batko and pierre need to stop sucking off kraut already. Even if he wasn't a piece of shit he's so deranged that he makes people he hang out with look worse by association.

Holy fuck, yeah he was eating a sandwich LMAO.

I love Roo, he would BTFO everyone there. Left or Right.

That guy sure knows philosophy.

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Something magical happened there around the 0:19 mark. For a couple of seconds those Americans came together and created the ultimate expression of free speech. It's so beautiful. I can't help but shed a tear

Muke probably wont stay socialist by the end of college tbh.

How long do these things usually last?

You fucking sectarian cunt.

Hopefully goes better than the alt-right debate.

Ganbatte Xerox-kun.

I hope you aren't serious.

I don't follow e-celeb nobodies, give me a rundown on each of these guys

It's yugofag, assume the worst case

The most agreed-upon definition is that the workers own and democratically control the means of production while receiving the full value of their labor.
Use value means central planning of some sort, which is not fully agreed upon by the left.

Yugofags love markets.

Okay you are serious then. I'd like to inform you that shitting on red ancaps like you isn't sectarianism. It's our duty to destroy liberals/succdems/reactionaries.

I honestly wish demsoc01 was on the debate team considering he can BTFO reactionaries extrememly well.

Aka One book Muke. Illiterate twank. Goes to Holla Forums and calls himself a libertarian Leninist zizekian
Ex-ancap no an com. Its better than most people give him credit for and is pretty non-sectarian , got btfoed in a debate though
Tankiest tank to ever tank. Is probably the most knowledgeable but pretty sectarian.

Fat ass who came to "fame" around goober gate. Calls himself a classical liberal and a leftist(not sure if we still even does this). But hates socialism, thinks Hayek was right, thinks communism if more dangerous than fascism and cultural Marxism/sjws\/feminism is the greatest threat to the west. Pretty much the prime example of the alt-lite/"rational skeptics"
Generic conservative as far as I can tell.
Some new guy who apparent is a ceo and philosophy grad.

Rightists/Libs

Sargon - Might actually be mentally deficient in some way. Audience is primarily 15 year olds. Only real conviction is "everyone is an individual so therefore you can never address problems with broad policy because that ignores the individual". He's debated a libfem, a neolib, and a socdem and lost all three times badly. But he has the sort of accent and confidence in speaking that tricks teenage americans into thinking he's smart

AcademicAgent - alt-lite bordering on full alt-right. He's more of the free market idealist kind than the stras.serist kind of far right loony.

Bantu - not a celeb, random insurance company ceo they found. Honestly the biggest toss-up. Could be Sargon and AcadAgent bought into the meritocracy meme of their own beliefs of the free market but he's secretly a massive moron who didn't earn his success in the slightest, or he could be really knowledgable

Leftists

Xexizy/Muke: Very mediocre, standard leftist e-celeb. Has a basic knowledge of most concepts and has won a few debates but nothing spectacular one way or another. Main attributes are being about as close as you get to an orthodox marxist these days and being ardently anti-idpol.

BadMouse: Token anarchist of the group. Used to be an ancap until converted by talking to a lot of ancoms (last one being Libertarian Socialist Rants, which finally converted him). Ideas aren't bad for an anarkiddie, but he's dyslexic and has embarassed himself in public debate before. Might not be too bad if he shuts up and differs to the other two on topics he knows little about

Finnish Bolshevik: Token ML of the group. Pretty smart guy but usually focuses on a very narrow range of topics. Holds very standard tankie positions on many issues but is considerably more agreeable and calm than the stereotypical internet tankie. Most likely to carry the debate on the left side

Agreed. Would swap out both Muke and Badmouse for just him or another actually knowledgable eceleb easily

Is there an actual incident where FinnBol was unnecessarily sectarian? He's in a small party but I haven't heard bashing another tendencies, except he called the major socialist party in Finnland SocDems which is what they fucking are. He also mentioned he often does stuff with anarchists but he was merely annoyed at their behavior, as they always show up drunk at protests etc.

No offense I know that there is a huge difference between online anarchists who are into theory and IRL smashies

What would be your ideal left wing debate death squad? Mine would be demsoc01, FinnBol, Eastern Marxist and maybe someone else

He got into a spat with ProSocialism when he was a trot. I suppose he really isn't that sectarian but his devotion/reverence to the soviet union kind comes of as a bit too much in my opinion

If it's supposed to be non-sectarian I'd nominate FinnBol for the MLs and Anarchopac for the Anarchists.

Third guy should be Leftcom/Orthodox Marxist, maybe Hawaiian Left Review? He has similar tendencies. Eastern Marxist is a staunch ML but focuses a lot on future left/cybernetic planning.

Remember, if this goes well for us we may have a flood of people. Get your cachés of theory ready, we may need to education some fools.

It won't. Finnish Bolshevisk is the only good debater in our lineup and he's a fuckin tankie

Never underestimate Sargon's ability to make himself look like a tit.

He and his followers are simply too stupid to be converted

It's gonna suck

He's a history nerd. I think his videos about the USSR are useful for the left, even when you aren't a tankie you can learn a lot from the Soviet experiment, positive or negative. You don't have to be worshipping Grover Furr, but most liberal or conservative history of the USSR is not only bullshit, it is not done from a socialist perspective as well.

Regarding the beef he had Pro-Socialism, it's just the old ML vs. Trot thing. It's a meme at this point, similar to the even dumber split between Maoists and Hoxhaist.

Get your pdfs and memes ready, get BO to check their autism, and have debunking stormfags on standby for humans vs orcs. If it goes bad we can be vindicated that muke is an illiterate idiot and shit on him.

World war 2 era had liberal egalitarianism as a defining characteristic that separated it from the third Reich? Nice a-historicity. The same good ole boys who from Arkansas who shot at germans in the 40s were deeply antisemetic and fought racial integration in the 50s tooth and nail. Ideas of white supremacy or even "white nationalism" was literally an afterthought to those guys…a complete non issue.

Just pray that Muke prepared data (he never had before), or Academic Agent will drown him in neoclassical literature about how capitalism lifts people out of poverty.

I have mixed feelings about this whole debate. On one hand, all the rightists and libs are absolute morons who don't know anything about socialism. That, and Sargon is fucking awful at debating people.
On the other hand, Muke can easily fuck this up and BadMouse (whos alright) could potentially mess this one up too. FinnBol is good, but as long as he doesnt go full tank we should be fine with him.

I'm dumping whatever I got here.

Inform me on humans vs orcs

Sargon is just void. The guy can literally stream for three hours and not even say a single substantial thing. Listening to a Sargon video is like listening to elevator music.

First picture is amazing for debating AnCaps

Some nazi tried to convince of race realism by saying it was like humans vs orcs.

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That's when they tell you they're "small business ancaps".

Last AnCap I debated claimed he had yet to see an oligopol which didn't come up through state intervention. I have no idea how you can be so dense that literally everything you do on the computer is either from Microsoft, Google or Facebook and still think capitalism doesn't bring about monopolies.

I'm scouring deep into my folders for the shit, hold on

He's not sectarian. He has a Trotskyist and Anarchist on a few of his videos. I'm more concerned about Bad "Argentina is more left wing than Cuba because they legalized marijuanna" Mouse sperging out.

DemSoc01 and FinnBol already BTFO'd him, Koreanon

Link to BadMouse's debate? His pre-recorded video debates are good.

Literally… What?

That was the meme that made me discover leftypol. We need to start watermarking with 8ch.net/leftypol since you can't find it thru Google

Can we make this thread cyclical? It's going to hit the bump limit

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Wtf I love America now?

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Anarchopac, Eastern Marxist, and FinnBol would be best imo.

Could switch out EM for Shaun from S&J or DemSoc01 if you value someone who can direct conversation over someone with rote textual memorization

Muke here. Been talking up an altered agenda and this is what we got

Why scratch the central planning point from the agenda? Would have been good for FinnBol

too bad none of you spergs ever read Towards a New Socialism

That's all folks

They had a debate session to work out sectarianism ahead of time and badmouse has eased up on his worst anarkiddie tendencies. The biggest real worry with badmouse is that he doesn't know when to shut up and defer.

Yeah I'm not even joking. They actually found some guy claiming to be a CEO of an insurance company with a degree in philosophy that has like 20 followers on twitter. He's either actually a secret weapon or will be a laughing stock.

Because we prefer to stay on the offensive in attacking capitalism and not have central planning painted as a dichotomy to capitalism.

It will still come up though, don't worry.

Because it unnecessarily restricts you to accepting the definition that central planning is socialism. Even if you prefer central planning this is just an unnecessary capitulation to make, especially when there's an anarchist on your team.

For the Cultural Marxism thing, has anybody of you ever read the Frankfurt School? Because I know for a fact that Academic Agent has.

My god, it's going to a deseaster, isn't it?

turns out I had 2 more. now it's actually over

i'm not going to be here for the debate, hold the line against Holla Forums

kek

Gj on adding the free market question. One of you should review the molymeme x peter joseph debate for a good talking points on that one.

Make sure to tell them that ancapistan actually existed

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_India_Company

Are there going to be a bunch of polyps in the stream chat? Because i dont want a bunch of pol cucks ruining my shitposting

Most anarchists are communists.

Probably, even though every Holla Forumsyp after will insist that Sargon is a liberal who they actually don't like and pretend they're too edgy for him

Damnit. Normally when I watch mukes streams i nazbol shitpost with a couple other people

No reason some Holla Forumsyps should stop you. Just remember they're all just as autistic as you're imagining irl.

Can anyone post a link to stream? I dont know who this "muke" person is.

"Xexizy" on youtube

Fuck, how did you know? So much for the Anonymous user

Not him, but your posting style.

Worse than that, Rational Skeptics larping as polyps.

Ei oo totta

It's gonna be lit. Dunno bout the other 2, but Carl From Swindon's in way over his head against YouTube's commie content producers cuz they've at least got serious opinions on shit as opposed to Sargon who just reads news stories of crazy suhjuhwuhs acting up and goes "Pfft…well THAT's stupid.".

He's the weakest link so he's prolly gonna keep his mouth shut throughout the debate.

You clearly know nothing of Sargon if you think he'll keep his mouth shut

I'm not

DELETE THIS

I believe they only added the Cultural Marxism debate point just so Sargon has a chance to rant about muh Esjaydoubleyous. He's completely illiterate concerning economics, history or philopshy so he has to focus on petty culture war

"Just because my internet is usually quite bad, I will record the debate tonight and upload it at some point but I probably won't stream it."

boooo

This is some liberal bullshit. The economy dicking over poor people doesn't constitute individual failure. And this kind of passive aggressive shit is just going to entrench them further. A poster like that could be used to refocus on class but no instead it's gonna moralize so that it will uphold the current political landscape by pissing off reactionaries and giving liberals a self-righteousness high.

who said that?

Muke, but some other guy is going to stream it, no worries.

Who and when?

Second and penultimate ones are obvious false dichotomies. Society is a product of both to an extent, but it's primarily an emergent and self-reproducing system unto itself. Human nature is constrained but that doesn't mean it's not perfectible and even if it weren't perfectible it could still improve asymptotically.

The academic agent, I think.

Breaking news Sargon's streaming it on his channel

Oh fuck no

He needs to read Leninism or Marxism then, and get on the Rosa train.

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He's already read lenin and marx. If he hadn't read those what would you imagine he's read?

For the last time, you utter nitwit, you can't judge an "ideology" based on how popular it is. How are you so consistently mindshatteringly dumb?
Good. You unironically praise ultracapitalist imperial states. Even classic Maotists aren't this insufferable and dumb.

No, dummy he means Leninism or Marxism, an article by Rosa.
libcom.org/library/leninism-or-marxism-rosa-luxemburg

You are absolutely correct, but that's Academic Agent for you. A pretentious cockbag who shrouds himself in pseud-academic "rationalist" language but isn't even able to phrase talking points coherently. He claims to have read all these books but still suffers so much from Dunning-Kruger

If you'd actually read the post I responding to, you clown, then you'd realize that I wasn't making a statement about the substance of either ideologies, but pointed out that when you shit on 95% of your camp it's pretty sectarian. Eat shit

I think it is very complicated to criticize exchange per se. The extraction of surplus value happens before exchange. So I think by even discussing capitalism as exchange, you are already about to lose the argument. There is no way to drive down barter to zero, and what's wrong with a little bit of bartering anyway if the distribution decided by the bureaucrats leads to you having way more than you need with some things and too little of other things. So, once the idea is in the heads that capitalism = dudes bartering things (and that is already planted in people before by the establishment), it appears that capitalism is natural, innit?

So, you need to immediately make a distinction between markets for consumer goods and markets for means of production. Capitalism has TWO aspects: Private ownership of the means of production by a minority, and markets. And people who defend capitalism almost always talk about the market part and people who hate capitalism almost always talk about that other thing.

Imagine a hypothetical slave-owning society with markets where it is a custom to give your slaves some pocket money they can buy some flimflam with. The pocket money is not what bothers you about that society, what bothers you is the slavery. In the society we live in, people are more free than slaves in that they can choose between employers, but in a sense they are still like slaves: They have to work for a boss, most of them can't realistically save up their pocket money to buy the means of production.

This is really two questions, for one the answer is yes and for the other the answer is no. The other side can choose to answer one of these questions, get you to agree to their answer, and then pretend they have answered the other and that you even agreed with them.

You need to immediately make the distinction: Yes, CM is real in the sense that there are Marxists who write about culture and movie analysis and so on. But no, it is not a powerful cabal. There are two stereotypes that conservatives have about lefty art-history students and the like in academia that flat-out contradict each other: 1. These people study things that are unlikely to help them with having a career (I think there is a lot of truth to that), 2. These people are somehow super-powerful.

Have you actually read stuff by Christina Hoff-Sommers? And I don't mean one or two tweets.

Getting shitfaced or staying home and watching the debate?
What to do

get shitfaced while watching the debate obviously

Both

I don't think I'm going to be able to watch it sober anyway.

Go out and have fun, watch the debate on recording.

Stay home with your mates getting shitfaced watching the debate.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAA why is the debate on at 11pm. Fuck this shit.

He took the pinkpill, created by Joseph Mengele from Jewish cultural-bolshevik tears in 1944.

Go out and get drunk, perhaps fuck a girl of you can.

Thought it was at 10? Or are you talking about GMT+1?

Look at his CuriosCat, he claimed it there.
He claimed he went wandering in the streets or park (cannot remember which) in order to get raped by a stranger in order to "test himself" or his emotional state.

he really did say that. pretty disgusting

23 gmt?

23 BST, aka britbong time.

Make if your reading this. Use these for the debate.

Hey muke if you're here make sure you jack off before the debate so you're calmer and so it's harder for Sargon to seduce you with his feminine wiles.

Exposing the great 'poverty reduction' lie: aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/2014/08/exposing-great-poverty-reductio-201481211590729809.html

Well I was going to anyway because I'm ill and I need to release white blood cells so sure

Link ?

midnight for me than, still no idea where it'll be streamed?

Also if this topic comes up, bring up that China's numbers are anomalous for the region and have not been independently verified by anyone outside the country. Neolibs and free market idealists who claim china's population has been lifted out of poverty by capitalism are operating on very shaky ground even beyond the goalpost shifting outlined in this piece.

Fug. Another lefty dying young.

Let is be known that Holla Forums will donate a fiver to anyone who jacks off during the debate.

Why did s/he betray us?
twitter.com/NasuNeurotic/status/885602434248298496
Btw is there any proof that @NasuNeurotic is actually Rebel?

pull your willy to some of ben garrison's chubby fur art

Here's my predictions

Is A.W marxist at all?

No

Read this: archive.is/YZjAe

I'll give 20 €

He quotes him a shit ton.
If he doesn't call himself a Marxist, it's probably for autistic reasons. Honestly, he's smart, but kind of a troll when backed into a corner.

No fucking idea why they would choose BadMouse for a debate about mostly economics.

Just get Anarchopac on there

Anachopac actually offered but it was too late apparently.

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post yfw FinnBol rampages through Sargon and his classcuck friends like a Soviet tank through Hungarian protestors

It's 22 now, where is that stream?

Also,

anyone got a link?

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'Just because my internet is usually quite bad, I will record the debate tonight and upload it at some point but I probably won't stream it.'
mobile.twitter.com/xexizy11/status/885927905561391104

They are British, it's only 21 there

So who is hosting it?

Someone will stream it

He disagreed with Marx and claimed to have found a flaw in Marx for believing that value exists before market exchange, and that what is really going on is that individual human conscious decisions determine value when they exchange stuff in the market. That means his understanding is behind Ricardo's.
(☞ﾟ∀ﾟ)☞

If this is streamed by one of the scums remember to turn the chat into USSR 2.0 so we can have a fun time disrespecting their property and I don't have to pay attention to the debate.

Maybe we'll even give some of the sargonites their first taste of commie shitposting so a year down the line they will read a fucking book.

I'm really worried about this taking up the whole discussion, just like when Muke debated Esoteric Entity. What makes this possibility very real is that AA made like two or three videos, where he argued against DemSoc01 that Nazi Germany was/fascism is socialist.

badmouse AND thefinnishbolshevik? holy fuck I shit my pants this is a hood lineup

Right folks, Sargon will be streaming it in fifteen minutes.
youtube.com/watch?v=z6gB3gA9UZg
gaming.youtube.com/watch?v=z6gB3gA9UZg

OH BOY

new thread for the stream pls

GET PUMPED
And dont forget to shit up the chat

Time to shitpost

I'm cringing already.

Anxious as fuck right now, hope they will win the debate

Yall might see me stirner posting watch out

I don't want to be in a chat full of righties

youtube.com/watch?v=-Fk5iGkp27M&spfreload=5

ITS WAR TIME
MAX STIRNERS COLLECTIVE UNION OF EGOIST INDIVIDUAL OWNERS OF SELVES UNITE !
NAZBOLS FIRE OFF YOUR MEMES!
ANARKIDDIES GO SMASHY!
TANKIES ROLL IN!
and uh leftcoms just sit there in your comfy armchairs

It's shitposting time lads

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we need to invade there and displace some of them #whitegenocide

I can't even watch.
This is going to be a shitshow

lol melyik KÖCSÖG volt?

youtube.com/watch?v=mjlVkWwhHbE
*COMMIE STIRNER POSTING INTENSIFIES*
FIRE UP NEETS AND EGOISTS

Totál nem én

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It's on

GET IN COMRADES
muke is already sperging out

Whomst'd'v'f ready for NAZBOL finbol to start praising the tanks rolling down protestors circa 15 minutes

xexizy is a fucking sperg jesus

Muke sounds like he's constantly choking.

Nuke just sperged out first 3 minutes so hard

I hope that Muke doesn't fuck this up, he sounds nervous af

youtube.com/watch?v=z6gB3gA9UZg

HERE IT IS LADS

MARXIST-SARGONISM WILL WIN

I SUPPORT HAYEK SAYS SARGON

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Steam?

I hope you queers BTFO these alt kike capitalist apologists kikes tbh but I doubt you will deliver the only competent guy seems like Finnish Bolshevik the other two are pathetic twinkcucks

Academic agent probably haven't read a single piece of science in his life. I'd say the same for all the "it's a phase" faggots.

here

Fuck off you get the bullet first spooky ghost story tellin muthafucka

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We're fucking fucked

Ghostmouse down
ghostmouse down

why is mouse there smh

This is going to go well

Do leftists ever win these kind of debates?

fucking badmouse

what tier is this?

they are all complete fucking spergs im out

IN FINNISH BOLSHEVIK WE BELIEVE

Can we kill badmouse

oh my fucking god

What are you niggers drinking? I'm a poor burger so all I got is Yuengling.

jesus christ this was a bad idea

now the cancerous DEUS VULT for le ebig redpill kek squad is going to come out of this victorious

Fucking badmouse.

==GO TANKS GO=

How long is this expected to last? I don't think I can take more than an hour of this.

So badmouse fucked up right at the begining? Why the fuck didn't you go with anarchopac you dumb fucks?

GET THE DEMOCRATIC SOCIALISM 101 HERE

hey PA here i drink a lot of yuengling

im drinking bankers club whiskey and a monster because i just got off work and am a poorfag degenerate

It's a muke endeavor. He's just got his fuckbuddies. Badmouse is an ex-ancap turned general libsoc. Muke isn't a big fan of anarchists so he doesn't associate with anarchopac.

6-8 hours.

Bayer and Pale Ale

That would be until 5-7 am where most of them are.

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anarchopac offered though but they said it was "too late". badmouse shouldve taken it upon himself to back out and give him his spot

HERE COME THE FUCKING TANKS

FINNISH BOLSHEVIK IS HERE TO SAVE THE DAY!

FinnBol is actually making good points but is a terrible speaker and still the best speaker of them unfortunately

I know and agree.

But he's doing so well.

What point, badmouse?

FUCKING steam isn't working :*(

finnbol and muke seem to be doing well, hope badmouse can muster some self confidence damn

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My fucking connection keeps failing

Operation """Anarchism""" is spamming 'BADMOOSE WIL LOOSE LUL' in the chat.

fucking kill me

can someone link me to this

c r i s e s e s

Fucking finbol is making best points but is legit autistic at speaking
maybe its due to being non english native speaker

LONG LIVE FINNISHBOLSHEVISM WITH TANKIE CHARACTERISTICS

lolol. Markets are just people. Like slavery! so therefore its okay

lol

MARKETS ONLY CARE ABOUT WHAT PEOPLE WANT
How do you even respond to something so stupid?

Chill, he will get confidence with time I think

These guys are just gonna jerk each other off the whole time, eh

Holy shit they are truly retarded

HERE COMES THE ANARCHO-UGYUR-SARGON AUTISM TRAIN

LINK
I
N
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Why do they even have this debate?

"I don't make money by making profits"

youtube.com/watch?v=z6gB3gA9UZg

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This is now 100% gonna occur

Why is it people never prepare a fucking thesis or some main talking points when they go into this.

A debate about a very complex subject with people who have already demonstrated complete ignorance and a lack of critical thinking skills should comprise of basically beating them over the head with foundational principals and their theoretical underpinnings.

Honestly, this is painful.

That's absolutely retarded. Why you want a shit debater like BM instead of a guy who btfo molymeme is beyond me.

DID YOU KNOW I AM A C E O.

youtube.com/watch?v=z6gB3gA9UZg

the capitalists are good speakers and the socialists are stereotypical spergs

what a fucking disaster

why are these assholes xexizy or whoever known at all in any niche community

Daily reminder that "demand" is not measured in human wants but in purchasing power.

HOLY FUCKING SHIT

Sargon and the CEO are more retarded than ever

MARKETS OCCUR ABOUT PEOPLE BECAUSE THEY POLL AND DO RESEARCH TO SELL THEIR PRODUCTS BETTER AND TO INCREASE PROFITABILITY

B A S I C E C O N O M I C S
Fuck, someone should have made a bingo card for this shit.

THIS SUPPLY AND DEMAND GUY SO AUTISTIC
OMFG
SO AUTISTIC

LEARN BASIC ECONOMICS

god this is hard to watch

As a business person, my opinions mean more than yours. ITS JUST HOW IT WORKS.

S U P P L Y A N D D E M A N D

Jesus fucking christ kill me

This is why I hate debates. Debates sucks, discussions are much better.

Capitalcucks are literal retards that barely know how to breathe. Leftists are spergers. What a fucking shit show.

what a fucking moron

M e a n d e r i n g

who's winning?

EVERYTHING IS DETERMINED FROM SUPPLY AND DEMAND

"TWO SYSTEMS"

Fucking lol, the disaster we knew was coming is actually transpiring. Who woulda thunk it? Don't let people under 25 debate.

Too early

C O R N
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I mean it's hard to not do better than Badmouse

Mfw he mentions corn when over half of US corn is thrown out as its more profitable to throw out then actually sell

SUPPLY AND DEMAND

Those who closed out youtube and got a drink.

MUH FALSE DICHOTOMY

nice

OH SHIT EARLY?

Can't tell yet. If the left side plays their cards right they could BTFO them (based on the right side's flawed talking points so far), but BadMouse seems to be a weakpoint in general and FinnBol might be tired considering how late it is in Finland right now.

CORN

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The debate is going exactly as we all could have imagined:

Socialists make their points, liberals mischaracterize them and regurgitate standard bourgeois rhetoric.

In the end everyone loses, time is wasted. This is why debates suck, discussion is better.

Lesser ebil meme. JESUS CHRIST SHIT TIER DEBATE.

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It's literally this easy
youtube.com/watch?v=0pij_SIOopc

Oh fucking kill me

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The debate is already markets vs. planned economy. So its already a failure

Muh risk

so the crux of this is that planned economy is garbage

SOCIALISM IS TOP DOWN
Oh my fuck I think my Autism Level is lowering people defend economic fascism/hierachies by saying the one system that wants to abolish these hierachies is hierachial

MENTION COCKSHOTT

are the commies gonna ever talk?

Thing x is like this now, therefore it must have always been like this.

t. rational capitalist

Not even that, but specifically central planning.

Illiterate fucks

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But it isn't hubris to believe the hand of the market is going to sort it all out at the end?
What a bunch of faggots

They did but they didn't have any points, mouse literally fucked up in 2 seconds and left it to the other guys

The moderators are giving the pro-cappies much more time.

CANT REMEMBER WHAT VIDEO I LAST MADE FUN OF FEMINISTS

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That's less hubris and more desperate superstition and submissiveness.

pls kill me now

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Can someone get me the "Liberals - the point meme"?

I can't find that one atm

wow there are a lot of points here that can be dismantled quite easily

I actually believe him. He's really that dumb

Cringe

THERE ACTUALLY HAS BEEN NO ARGUMENT MADE

We're getting grilled here

fucking why

MUH STEM

Can we get a reply already?

porkies gonna pork

Lol why did badmouse even join? Like what the fuck did he think would happen? Does he have autism?

What a fucking waste of a slot.

I'm sure Badmouse will respond to all of their points and point out their fallacies and shortcomings

No we're not, theyre just talking around it.

No, from now on it's just the capitalist side agreeing with themselves.

If only they'd let the people talk. I know for a fact even badmouse can refute this because I've heard him do it before.

R A T I O N A L E X C H A N G E S

ACTION WOULD BE IRRATIONAL BY SETTING FIRE TO SOMETHING
US CORN FARMERS LITERALLY FUCKING BURN OVER HALF THEIR CORN BECAUSE ITS CHEAPER TO DUMB IT THEN SELL IT.

Could of got a Orthodox Marxist

People are rational

someone like mark blyth would absolutely rape these dipshit wannabe economists

BLOOD DIAMONDS ARE BETTER THAN BREADLINES
t. Sargon

nevermind that one of first chapters in basic economics say that people are not rational

A CHILD OF THREE

BASIC ECONOMICS

B R E A D
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kek, explain the stockmarket dippy!

Why didn't they invite EasternMarxist

SARGON GETTING REWARDED FOR MAKING FUN OF FEMINISTS ON THE INTERNET IS PROOF THE SYSTEM WORKS AND IS EFFICIENT

Honestly what the fuck was Muke doing when he met Sargon.

I mean, how hard can it be to explain basic socialism to someone?

Is Muke retarded?

Next time we should really have a team of people collecting refutals in the background and presenting them in a readable format to our own side

==CHILD OF THREE=
BASIG ECONOMICS
This is a great meme creation stream

Oh shit! The CEO is triggered.

Gubmint meme

Both him and badmouse don't have genuine convictions when it comes to lefty politics. They're just dumb fucking kids.

RIP COMPANY

SAVE OUR LAST GOODBYE

COMPANIES DIE THEY'RE LIKE SAD AND LITTLE BABIES

OK so at least the moderator acknowledges that he gave the lefties too little time but now he's letting the righties use the lefties' time to respond.

Holy shit muke

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My company will die REEEEEEEEEEEEE

Where the stats tho
like the US homeless stats and empty house stats

what happened?

They're not good at adapting their rhetoric to different audiences, and Sargon has a vested interest in not being a socialist.

*tugs shirt*

mook did a good

CEO got BTFO by weakest member of leftie team

Muke brought up empty houses, and mr CEO got triggered

Badmouse with the useful chime in

100% shit debate

Thats what he needs to do, quick look-up stats while Muke and Nazbol god carry

How can someone this retarded be a CEO of anything but his own breathing?

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This is some next level shitposting

HOMELESS PEOPLE ARE MENTALLY ILL

I'M DYING

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The CEO is a total scumbag, jesus

the lefties have been really poor i have to say

Just tell muke and the others to read this thread so they can get some good rebuttals.

It's commonly true but mentally ill =/= unwilling to live in houses.

CeOs eArNeD tHoSe HoUsEs

Can someone donate like a fiver with like 'Kill the capitalist' side or something memey

YOU'RE STOP BEING ENTITLED TO HOUSING

Ehhh…? And give money to these bozos?

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WHAT AM I WILLING TO PUT UP WITH TODAY?
NOT. FUCKING. THIS.

Fuck off carl of swindon!

Why do you losers have a thread about e-celebs? This thread is actually fucking pathetic.

This is the level, folks.

Fuck off

eat my shit.

Wow. You're so cool.

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#BALLSOUTFORBANTU

mah boy, my brother in christ, you gotta be careful with that word. jesus knows when you invoke the forheadmeme

IMPLYING SARGON ISNT THEORISING MARXIST-SARGONISM WITIHIN OUR TIME!

this tbqh

Oh the stream chat is going to absolutely enlightened

Xexizy is actually doing surprisingly well

Debates are important and our technology gives us amazing new opportunities to spread ideas.

They seem to enjoy speaking over us quite a bit

FAMINES ARE CAUSED BY PEOPLE NOT USING MARKETS

FINNISH BOLSHEVIK IS ON IT

You don't want to spread these ideas. Its a tankie, a Marxist Leninist and a really dumb anarchist. It's better to not spread this image.

SOVIET STARVATION OF 1917
WEEEEEEEEEEEEW

fucking hell

academic agent is such a fucking idiot

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Yeah and Wolff isn't perfect either. They don't have to be perfect to be better than the people they're talking to.

What company is that guy the CEO of?

Im not going to keep watching this they just keep letting those right wing idiots talk during the socialist time

STOP LETTING THE CAPITALISTS TALK OVER YOU CONSTANTLY YOU FUCKS

who is the guy who's constantly pausing and um'ing and er'ing

thank god badmouse isn't talking

This host suck

Some small-time shit.

Wolff is an educated economist who has good ideas. I don't want soviet apologists and Badmouse to share their "knowledge".

COMMIES BTFO

Muke should just leave if they are going let them talk in their timespan

you fucking jinxed it

Jinxed it

shit posting flag

THESE ARE BABBY-TIER ARGUMENTS
THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE A PROBLEM DEBUNKING THEM

THESE ARE BABBY-TIER ARGUMENTS
THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE A PROBLEM DEBUNKING THEM

THESE ARE BABBY-TIER ARGUMENTS
THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE A PROBLEM DEBUNKING THEM

THESE ARE BABBY-TIER ARGUMENTS
THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE A PROBLEM DEBUNKING THEM

THESE ARE BABBY-TIER ARGUMENTS
THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE A PROBLEM DEBUNKING THEM

Muke needs to let Finnish Bol talk more

If they got to finish any arguments they wouldn't have a problem

WHEN OUR TEAM IS STRUGGLING TO BEAT FACEBOOK NORMIETIER ARGUMENTS
WHEN OUR TEAM IS STRUGGLING TO BEAT FACEBOOK NORMIETIER ARGUMENTS
WHEN OUR TEAM IS STRUGGLING TO BEAT FACEBOOK NORMIETIER ARGUMENTS
WHEN OUR TEAM IS STRUGGLING TO BEAT FACEBOOK NORMIETIER ARGUMENTS====WHEN OUR TEAM IS STRUGGLING TO BEAT FACEBOOK NORMIETIER ARGUMENTS
WHEN OUR TEAM IS STRUGGLING TO BEAT FACEBOOK NORMIETIER ARGUMENTS
WHEN OUR TEAM IS STRUGGLING TO BEAT FACEBOOK NORMIETIER ARGUMENTS

STOP PARTICIPATING IN A STREAM WHERE THEY KEEP TALKING OVER YOU, JUST LEAVE YOURE NOT GOING TO WIN IF THEY NEVER LET YOU TALK
STOP PARTICIPATING IN A STREAM WHERE THEY KEEP TALKING OVER YOU, JUST LEAVE YOURE NOT GOING TO WIN IF THEY NEVER LET YOU TALK
STOP PARTICIPATING IN A STREAM WHERE THEY KEEP TALKING OVER YOU, JUST LEAVE YOURE NOT GOING TO WIN IF THEY NEVER LET YOU TALK
STOP PARTICIPATING IN A STREAM WHERE THEY KEEP TALKING OVER YOU, JUST LEAVE YOURE NOT GOING TO WIN IF THEY NEVER LET YOU TALK
STOP PARTICIPATING IN A STREAM WHERE THEY KEEP TALKING OVER YOU, JUST LEAVE YOURE NOT GOING TO WIN IF THEY NEVER LET YOU TALK
STOP PARTICIPATING IN A STREAM WHERE THEY KEEP TALKING OVER YOU, JUST LEAVE YOURE NOT GOING TO WIN IF THEY NEVER LET YOU TALK
STOP PARTICIPATING IN A STREAM WHERE THEY KEEP TALKING OVER YOU, JUST LEAVE YOURE NOT GOING TO WIN IF THEY NEVER LET YOU TALK
STOP PARTICIPATING IN A STREAM WHERE THEY KEEP TALKING OVER YOU, JUST LEAVE YOURE NOT GOING TO WIN IF THEY NEVER LET YOU TALK
STOP PARTICIPATING IN A STREAM WHERE THEY KEEP TALKING OVER YOU, JUST LEAVE YOURE NOT GOING TO WIN IF THEY NEVER LET YOU TALK
STOP PARTICIPATING IN A STREAM WHERE THEY KEEP TALKING OVER YOU, JUST LEAVE YOURE NOT GOING TO WIN IF THEY NEVER LET YOU TALK
STOP PARTICIPATING IN A STREAM WHERE THEY KEEP TALKING OVER YOU, JUST LEAVE YOURE NOT GOING TO WIN IF THEY NEVER LET YOU TALK
STOP PARTICIPATING IN A STREAM WHERE THEY KEEP TALKING OVER YOU, JUST LEAVE YOURE NOT GOING TO WIN IF THEY NEVER LET YOU TALK
STOP PARTICIPATING IN A STREAM WHERE THEY KEEP TALKING OVER YOU, JUST LEAVE YOURE NOT GOING TO WIN IF THEY NEVER LET YOU TALK
STOP PARTICIPATING IN A STREAM WHERE THEY KEEP TALKING OVER YOU, JUST LEAVE YOURE NOT GOING TO WIN IF THEY NEVER LET YOU TALK
STOP PARTICIPATING IN A STREAM WHERE THEY KEEP TALKING OVER YOU, JUST LEAVE YOURE NOT GOING TO WIN IF THEY NEVER LET YOU TALK

The only problems they are having is
1. the moderator isn't giving them enough time
2. they don't tell the cappies to fuck off when they get interrupted

Oh shit is badmouse actually doing good?

C o r n l a w s

Insurance company

C O R N
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#Based FINBOL knows his shit.
Muke and Bad Mouse need to fuck off!

Wish it was just Finnbol v Sargon tbh

Is Bantu actually Khruschev in disguise?

?????????

Can those retards finally decide whether the market is just people or some natural force?

What they need to do is stop being defensive and start being offensive.

C O R N

Finnbol would demolish him

FINBOL FTW!

CORN
C
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WEALTHY FARM OWNERS WILL SELL OVERSEA OR OUT OF COUNTRY

3 v 3 MOSTLY UNDER 30 DEBATE WAS NEVER A GOOD IDEA
3 v 3 MOSTLY UNDER 30 DEBATE WAS NEVER A GOOD IDEA
3 v 3 MOSTLY UNDER 30 DEBATE WAS NEVER A GOOD IDEA
3 v 3 MOSTLY UNDER 30 DEBATE WAS NEVER A GOOD IDEA
3 v 3 MOSTLY UNDER 30 DEBATE WAS NEVER A GOOD IDEA
3 v 3 MOSTLY UNDER 30 DEBATE WAS NEVER A GOOD IDEA
3 v 3 MOSTLY UNDER 30 DEBATE WAS NEVER A GOOD IDEA

tbh all the leftists are leagues above capicucks in knowledge.

the capitalists are just much better speakers

the socialists are a stuttering mess

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He has none

Could someone spare link to the stream?

Badmouse actually when onto the offence with that "capitalism kills a shit ton". He threw the cappies off guard

So the moderator makes sure the cappie gets to complete his point but never intercedes to let the socialists talk.

youtube.com/watch?v=z6gB3gA9UZg&feature=youtu.be&a

youtube.com/watch?v=z6gB3gA9UZg

I'm done. This just turned into a a total shitshow with no structure really quickly.

FUCK THIS HOST
Capitalists talking over socialists
Socialists talking over capitalists once

gaming.youtube.com/watch?v=z6gB3gA9UZg

capicucks are sabotaging

Go FB go

FinnishBolshevik is starting his defense of famines. We've already lost

tangs m8 :D:D::D:

Yeah, and they didn't respond, so the other guys didn't catch on and do the same. I'm glad he did but it's a fart in the wind tbh.

Yeah thanks for that lads we got a whole 5 seconds of speaking time

POINT OUT THAT AFTER 1931 THERE WASN'T A FAMINE IN THE USSR EVERY AGAIN
MUKE
MUKE
MUKE
MUKE
MUKE

MY BOI

That's 4 seconds too long for mouse

Fucks sake I would literally marry Muke

A lot of them are, veterans with PTSD for example.

Lol @ the stream description, there's only one capitalist in the stream, the other two are classcucks.

Fuck I'm proud of muke

MUKE ROLLS IN THE TANKS
CAPITALISTS BTFO
SARGON ON SUICIDE WATCH

Reminds me of this, lel.

They should mention this is a symptom of imperialism

MUKE is carrying.
holy fuck

Really now, who thought this was a good idea?

ok thank god Muke is doing good now

badmouse is kinda useless

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Finbol should talk more

He's literally carrying the debate.
Color me shocked.

Is this a theory debate, or a history debate?

That's funny, because an insurance company is literally an artificial institution that fucks with the natural order of things. Think about it. Instead of winners winning big time and losers being fucking killed off, an insurance company makes outcomes more equal. It reduces the effects of competition. If you like the idea of insurance, you will love socialism.

He's actually carrying atm
FINBOL is doing ok
Mouse needs to be lined up against the wall

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Pretty embarrassing considering he talks big shit on Twitter and shit, especially against Sargon

BADMOUSE SHUT UP, STOP ARTICULATING YOUR POINTS LIKE AN ANARKIDDIE

wtf im a Marxist now

FOLKS

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Finbol is without a doubt the most well read person there

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HAYEK SAID SOCIAL DEMOCRACY/MIXED ECONOMY WUZ SOCIALISM AND WOULD LEAD TO SERFDOM
L00000000000000000000000000000000L

It's a "babysitting noob capitalists" debate. So just deal with a dozen flimsy fox news-tier arguments at a time

T O P D O W N

This, someone tweet this post at those clods once it’s all over

THAT STUTTER

Half of the donation messages are crying about
and it's hilarious

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"Markets only reflect reality it doesnt real"

FUCKING RETARDED!!!!!

U N D E R L Y I N G R E A L I T Y

"Im just going to move on now:

Kill me

COMMUNISM IS WHEN THE GOVERNMENT DOES STUFF

I thought the corn laws were about keeping the land owners rich? They were opposed both by free-trade capitalists and Marx.

every goddamn time

R O A S T E D

What the fuck kind of question is this

don't want to be all radical centrist here but both sides are fucking abysmal

t. a fucking warcriminal

They're gonna get BTFO on this question so hard its gonna be funny

I AM THE GREAT CORNHOLIO, I NEED MARKETS FOR MY BUNGHOLE.
t. Bantu

G R E A T D E T A I L

T H E U L T I M A T E A R G U M E N T

Imagine actually paying for this

Did Sargon copy and paste that donation into the chat?

This debate so far is useless. We must send these class traitors to the fucking wall.

Fucking Krushnev and his corn

SOCIALISM IS ABOUT REPLACING THE CURRENT ELITES WITH A NEW SET OF ELITES

god these people are so goddamn dumb

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Xeroxy = carrying the team
Finngol = autistic af and boring
Badmouse = talks tough on youtube and now he's a silent, shy sissy whiteboi. What a joke, who invited this fucking muppet?

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New thread

I wasn't suggesting the socialists were doing well. I'm saying that's the job you sign up for when you do this debate. It's not an even sided debate to begin with

INDUSTRIALISTS AND THE BOURGEOIS ARE LEFT WING

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Xexizy did

Capitalists are the real communists

IIRC Hayek actually did think public healthcare and public transport are OK things, unlike many current ancaps.

kek

ELON MUSK IS NAZBOL???

IDEALISM

Screencap this when the CEO says something like 'You're all college kids and never worked a day in your life, I've run a comapny!'

DO IT DO IT DO IT

Changed my mind, libertarians get the wall.

That'll be his trump card, watch and see lads

DO IT!

They're basically all 16 year old americam middle class boys.

He fucking did, holy shit. I bet he's hoping to get more super chats by incentivizing them with copies.

they're not libertarians, they're just authoritarians in denial

STOP POSTING HERE. NEW THREAD:

I know, but their shitty arguments are like they actually believe the statements of a very good concern troll. It's like they only exist to piss people off.

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HE FUCKING DID IT

And you're telling me this guy runs a company?

Jesus.

Ahem. Slavoj, the new thread about the stream is here:

Who’s winning so far.

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Nobody. Arguably nobody ever could be.

Can anyone tell me what app this is?

Haha u retards getting BTFO

Gawd this is shit show.

most innovations dont come from the private sector anyway reeeeee
god bantu is such a faggot

Honestly Finnish Bolshevik really pissed me off with his shitty tractor answer.

Its INCREDIBLY MIND NUMMINGLY OBVIOUS

Get 20 teams of engineers, tell them to make the best tractor they can.

All 20 teams make tractors.

The best tractors are put into production.

What is "the best" is determined by scientific study and statistical analysis.

I wish rebel would remain active and be like the leftypol blaire white in a way she had such good content and i really respect her since i'm also trans. she says that she will release new pictures of herself soon.

Alright, I just got here, can someone sum it up? Don't spare the memes and cringes, please.