Antifa

Whats Holla Forumss opinion of Antifa?

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they need more guns.
until then i consider them just liberals and idpol terrorists.

Tbh antifa should go back to what it once was: a paramilitary organisation

They are funded by Soros and the government.

Look at how they got the same goddamn uniform and equipment, and their tactics are the same everywhere.

Merely a loose network of mostly anarcho-communists and subcultures which made their homework on Direct Action.

okay bait 5/10.

I've said this many times this week. The right needs to be threatened. The capitalist state needs to be threatened. Even in this small way. The media and liberals aren't on our side anyway, so no use crying about their tears.

Seeing people on the streets makes other people more comfortable with the idea, not liberals, but people who might otherwise have not had the confidence but shared similar views.

As well as this, it normalises such acts in the minds of the liberals, no matter what, we have forced the debate of violent opposition to capitalism back onto the agenda. I think we will see more and more liberals coming down the "guns are a symbol the workers freedom" route once the start discovering all the main civil rights leaders were pro gun etc.

Is anybody here really gonna disparage the work of greek antifa for example or the french ones doing food stalls etc?

alri comrade_rat

The rights aren't scared of a bunch unarmed black masked fucks, they are more scared of niggers.

they are less scared of unmasked compliant unarmed fucks standing their holding signs

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thats just lolberts

I suppose. Amerifats just need to up their game.

terrorism is when groups have not a chance and do vandalism and crime. with guns you become a guerrilla.

liberals never have guns, they are anti-violence ass hats

A great excuse to beat up right-wing reactionary aspies.

Liberals have more guns than anyone liberals rule the world

We have this thread every week, comrade..

They're good for the sheer amount of butthurt they generate.

Is a mess of retarted idpol, but has some potential.

Greek Antifa is good because it is actually actively defending proles against active far-right groups like the Golden Dawn and doing patrols rather then running around like a bunch of idiots and punching anyone that has a remotely conservative opinion and burning prole cars. The important note here is "defending" and "active far-right group". If you can demonstrate to the working class community that you are watchful defenders rather than (from their perspective) "aggressors", you'll win over the local families who are interested in their families safety.

You've been reading too many liberal papers and watching too much Sargon of Akkad. Most antifa is the former and not the latter, maybe not with patrols, but in most places they don't bother with anyone but the actual fascists. Apart from burgerstan but everything is fucky in burgerstan

I love how this faggot jumps into action on command like a fucking dog when it comes to astroturfing for the a shitty group of idpolers like ANTIFA. Bravo, user.

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Just let civilization collapse, and these people will cease to exist, and mankind will both rediscover, and transform himself into a being supior to that of today.

You post with a Hammer and Sickle, meme about muh revolution and yet clutch pearls at even the most low level violence.

joke tbh

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The problem isnt the violence, you absolute fuckwit. Every fucking time you just put your hands over your ears and tell yourself that we're just mad because you DID SOMETHING(r)(tm). You useless faggot.

do you see the problem? You realize without antifa in most countries there would be precisely ZERO militant leftist groups. None at all.

shit
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Made up of young liberal kids in shitty economic straits with a fetish for violence and young authoritarian kids in shitty economic straits with a fetish for violence and the occasional neo-anarchist whose knowlege of anarchism from from an album full of tumblr .gifs on iPhone.

oh look it's this thread again
They're alright, I just wish they'd focus a little more on the state and a little less on relatively harmless right wingers. Not saying don't punch nazis, I mean like just the average trumpfag or whatever, seems like a waste of energy to me

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this is a net gain for society

fuck off

They are /r/socialism tier

They're idiots who help perpetuate fascism except they pretend to give a shit about gay people. They espouse a shit version of socialism that won't work.

Oh boy another tripfag, and this time a fucking anprim

In reality they are probably more Tumble tier

lmao

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read a book

Yeah, that's totally what I was going for.

as i've already said, more intimidating than a none masked non violent protester

Opportunists

Antifa are cool.
People here are only turning against them because residue Holla Forumsfaggotry and trying to appeal to Holla Forumsfags. Anybody that smashes the fuck out of Fascists is good by me.

Even American Antifa, the most disorganized at all, mostly attack like Alt-Right and KKK shit.

The only thing I'm against is some of the actions by Smashies. But not all of antifa are smashies.

You should join Antifa and punch some evil nazis. It's the next best thing to creating equality and justice for all through 1800s utopian economic ideology.

antifa is a (successful) government operation to divide the left and delegitimize leftist issues in the eyes of the public.
iantifa supporters are larping kids from middle class families who think burning small cars belonging to proles will magically bring capitalism down.

Idpol tools used by porky to stop actual leftist action.

When the revolution comes they will be the first to go. They claim to be leftists but yet are nothing more than cannon fodder for the bourgeoisie.

Kill a traitor before an enemy.

No fake assasination attempt this time?

There was a lot of nazis here in Sweden until antifa cleared them out, that was a while back and i don't know what to think of the modern antifa.
They are not violent enough i would guess as the nazis are popping back up.

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Nah, fuck that fag shit. We got cars to burn and bystanders to beat.

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Reminder that the "middle class" does not and never has existed. The closest is petite-bourgeoisie.

The "middle" class is working class, dipshit.

Chad's a dickhead and owes me 12 quid.

Not true, considering most of the european ones are working class or lumpens tied to football teams

These are the only Anti-Fa I support.

so what are you doing to win hearts and minds?

This shit again

I don't like them.

No. They just preach anti-violence to nonliberals.

eh? are you for or against that statement?

no shit crypto fash (all hail nazbol gang)

This is sort of my stance.
I don't see them accomplishing much when they're anything but counter protestors tough.

Like when they got Milo's speech canceled.

Someone else said they're better off as a paramilitary organization Im inclined to agree.

I marched with them once a few months ago in DC.
Its was like like 20 percent people who knew what they were doing and the rest were tag alongs who paniced the secord we got kettled and tried to run down a dead end alleyway.

I was lucky enough to make it through the line when there was that initial charge.

Im not saying it should be formalized. But there needs to be some sort of training involved.

I find (most of) the tactics that antifa groups use legitimate and support them

Antifa is what happens when you attack trashcans instead of revolution

Mostly I invite them out for drinks and we enter civilized discussion.

"The one thing we can agree on - Liberals are fucking pussies"

If Ernst Thälmann and Rosa were still alive they would dislike them with passion, so do i.

- They act and look stupid, at best like clowns, at worst like scoundrels. Just because they exist they make leftist politics unappealing for the average worker with family and not an option to consider on the ballot box.
- Squatting could serve as advertisement for communism but their projects always look either like a kindergarten or like dirty, unorderly heaps of fail and shit. Right wingers just need to point at them.
- They are maximum retarded idpol classcucks. They often have worse understanding of economics than average reactionaries, they either never read Marx/Engels, Luxemburg and other leftist classics or misinterpret them, yet they can refer endlessly about Adorno and Freud. They would accuse anyone of "structural antisemitism" who directly critisizes bankers (let that sink in for a while) - not to mention that they get ultimately triggered if one dares to critisize Israel's politics. They went and demonstrated alongside corporate bosses supporting unrestricted mass immigration (ignoring that corporations use immigration as a tool to dump wages) - which again aliented the Left from it's own demographic.
- Today's Antifa doesn't riot against actual Nazis/Fascists or anti-labour politics. When they glorious uprising (really fitting term here) they hurt property of regular commoners. Hamburg was the biggest propaganda disaster for leftists of all flavours since years in Germany, reactionary mainstream media called this week openly for banning "extremist leftist" student groups from universities and introduce a database for "extremists".
- I can't prove it but after Hamburg i suspect that half if not more of the so called "Black Block" are BfV undercover agents. It's widely known that the deep state within/behind the BfV supports the fringe right.

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is they're anyone who's NOT an opertunist to leftcoms?

don't talk about rosa, you fucking social fascist peice of shit

Learn about the history of the worker's movement in Europe, you imbecile idiot. Rosa was Social democrat, just like any leftist including Marx and Engels before the SPD betrayed the workers and became bourgeois-liberal. She was murdered by reactionaries, not by Social democrats.

ur a fucking retard

Antifa are good an necessary.
People who think they are run by the government (or Soros) are fucking retarded.
Leftists that think proles don't like the left because of antifa, are retarded.
People that think antifa have some assholes in their ranks are right.


Why are you LARPing as varg?

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I've been friends with this person long before we ever talked politics but every AnCap I know acts like so much of a kneejerk dipshit about anything vaguely leftist that it's almost sad