First Articles of Impeachment Filed Against Donald Trump

First Articles of Impeachment Filed Against Donald Trump

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This won't go anywhere though. Needs approval from both houses which are both GOP controlled.

This is grandstanding, its nothing, like ted cruz obama era shit

Trump and impeachment can't go together in the same sentence.

what about if dems control after 2018

It's possible, but unlikely that will happen with the DNC such a shitshow. Even if it did, some Democrats probably wouldn't go along with it out of fear of the consequences (the right going hyper-level insane)

Just imagine of Trump were to be impeached. The liberals would rejoice, the great big beast has been defeated, it's time for rainbow capitalism again!
The great big beast is capitalism, it doesn't matter if Trump is or isn't in charge. I hope he stays.

I hope he doesn't het impeached. He's too good, america deserve worse

Why are the democrats so unbelievably retarded?

I think they're trying to implicate him too

Really?

President Mike Pence?

Do the dems even know what the consequences would be, even if they were successful?

because legalism/constitutionalism gives you brownie points in burgerland?
It isn't the goal of democrats to stop republicans from fucking people's lives, their goal is to get people to identify with their brand (not even necessarily vote for them), sometimes that means going to the right, sometimes for the left, sometimes for protecting "american values" and catering to non-policy related whims of the general public.

Democratic Party needs to get nuked

doesn't the United States have double jeopardy laws? I think we only get one shot at this

That only applies if they want to charge hi criminally, not if they just want to kick him out of office.

less likely to get reelected though.

On the other hand, the alt-lite/trumptard meltdown would be glorious.

Either way is fine imo.

FUCKING FINALLY

Porky gonna get stuffed.

How is this good? If Donald Trump leaves, we'll get fucking Mike Pence in charge.

Low energy

Its not, because we'll get Mike fucking Pence in charge.
The one good thing about it will be the butthurt from righties but I feel that'll be completely neutralized by the joy from demfucks at their ""achievment""
if it works

It's fucking nothing.
Democrat grandstanding, no way in hell will this get enough votes in the he house, and even if it somehow did, the Republicans control the senate, which is where he'd actually be tried.
Never mind the fact that Trump voters would go berserk, we'd have Mike Pence as president.
What a shitshow that would be.

Tbh, Mike Pence would be better in the sense that he would be more competent and a bit less shitty. If he becomes president, he's not going to just start up more gay camps - he can already fund those if he wants to. Honestly, I bought Pence as a safeguard against impeachment for a while, but not anymore. Even Trump's silver-lining policies turned out to be idiotic - the man simply does not know shit about fuck and his only coherent strategy is outrage porn.

Living here, I personally feel the need to be torn: Trump is great in ways. He's destroying the GOP, exposing the corruption and consequences of the electoral college and American elections/party politics in general, showing the proto-fascistic nature of our national security and foreign policy, and he's basically a man who was just born rich and got a TV show and became president without ever working or needing the public behind him. Trump and the 2016 election have publicly ripped the American dream to shreds and exposed it as a genuinely sadistic farce.

But the cost of it all is that people are going to get hurt that much more in the ensuing chaos. And I don't take accelerationism or its supposed application to Trump seriously. The only real solution (and this applies to everyone whether with or against us) is that we take some action ourselves. Kicking a guy like Trump out could actually be a good start… but there's not really an easy decision.

In the long-term, Trump stains things, which gives us an opportunity to show how we can fix them. But to take such an approach implicitly requires ignoring the effects of his incompetence and potentially allowing him to further lower the bar.

I wonder if impeaching Trump is going to be the hill the Dems choose to die on, just like Republicans and 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧O'bama🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧care

Yes but think about what you just said. That means that Mike Pence could actually get things done and consolidate power in the American nation-state.

That makes him infinitely more scary than Trump could ever be.

I like how the democrats have successfully brainwashed liberals into thinking Russia is the problem instead of the failure of neoliberlism, and and incompetent DNC.

To you trump is worth getting rid of so you can return to normal life, where the neocon evangelical is somehow better.

Im going to want you to screecap this post and tell you that the russia stuff will stop being promoted the second 2018 elections end

You know Donald, Jr. just admitted to it, right?

You're right that Russia is convenient, but it's also a major political ditch that Trump and Company have dug themselves.

Still on the fence, but you make a good point.

Fuck yeah, let's bring down Donald Drumpf and his crony capitalism. The problem is him, not the current political and economical system!

He met with a lady who said she had info on Hillary.
She didnt.

This isnt illegal.

Don jr holds no actual position to resign from

Cringe. You guys are just making stuff up now because you want to be super anti Democrat and anti liberal.

It is illegal.


Like if on To Catch a Predator with Chris Hansen, the suspect said so what I tried to meet up with an underage girl, I really met up with a 30 year old undercover cop, so I didn't break the law!

Not how it works.

Fuck off, Reddit.

No, retard. You try TOO hard to be anti liberal that you start sounding like the_donald, protecting Trump by making shit up.

The "lady" was presented to him as a "Russian government attorney" in an email which said that Russia was supporting Trump's campaign. This suggests that the Trump campaign (note that Jr. was not the only one who knew about this) was accepting contributions from a "foreign national," with the only ambiguity being semantics. It's a gray area, but mostly because they can afford lots of lawyers.

Whether or not she had the information she claimed to (and we only have Donald Jr.'s word that she didn't) is irrelevant in the same way that if a politician agrees to accept a bribe it's still a crime even if they never receive it.


He's the son of the president, and what he did was relevant to the president's campaign. This implicates the campaign. As for Jr., the risk isn't getting ousted, it's jail time.

No. You sound exactly like a liberal faggot from Reddit though.

Yes, let's focus on a single person instead of the bigger picture! Very liberal of you. #LockHimUp

Well, if Pence, an ostensibly more effective politician gets into office, he'll actually be able to do more unpopular shit that hurts more labor and social rights, thus maligning the republican party more than Trump could.

It is true that the democratic party may just continue full-speed ahead with neoliberal economics + intersectional social policies, and while this is bad, it's not as bad at Trump's plan.

dude, nothings going to happen…..
trump is president for the next 4 years.

No, you said it wasn't illegal. It was illegal. You're wrong. The truth =/= reddit. The truth =/= liberal. Retard.

I'm not the other guy you dumb piece of shit, as you can tell I don't separate the post link from my text. Just calling out redditors where I see them. ;)

You're still attributing pointing out the facts as being reddit. Retard.

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shut up you big meanie brocialist

getting rid of drumpf is a revolutionary act

it's probably nothing, but if anything comes of it I look forward to the autistic screeching from r/the_cuckold


as opposed to what?


he's rocking out the redditspacing too lol

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Yeah, no.

Wasn't this discussion itself about whether or not Donald Jr. was legally liable here, though?

No one ever argued that the system wasn't shit.

I never said Trump was going to get impeached - at least not so quickly. It doesn't mean Jr. didn't commit a crime or that this isn't a valid angle. Bush and Obama never got impeached either, but I see no reason to claim they did nothing wrong or illegal just because they were going to get away with it.

This is the thing.

Carter was anti-abortion, but was politically competent enough not to push it hard. It's genuinely tempting to crave that the leader of the country you're living in has the sense to respond to public opinion, and even if Trump is less hardcore in belief his lack of tact would probably make him more hard right in policy.

accelerationism is a real thing. Actually I hope he dumbass gets impreached so it's a worse leader the one who takes control. That will make the remaining cynicals care.

You stupid fucking liberals realize if the democrats get Trump out of the picture any chance of their shitty ass party reforming is done for, right? Though knowing you fucking redditors you probably wouldn't have a problem with this.

A thing that has worked more for the right than the left, as evidenced by the past 100 years.

Was this not already the case?

But how? I thought marxist theory views history in a linear progression sort of fashion, and the more you accelerate should be the closer you are to post industrial communism :thonk:

revolution isn't reform friendo

PRESIDENT MIKE "10,000 VOLTS FOR EVERY DYKE" PENCE
Liberals are fine with that as long as Trump stops Making America Gauche Again. They're happy to get worse policy in exchange for decorum.

The only reason to want Trump impeached is if you believe it will turn his most ardent fans against the US govt once and for all the way a lot of Bernie voters got newly disillusioned with the system post-primary

Pence is obviously fucking shit though

Let them. They're already losing support. Someone will eventually have to stand up to the far right wackos.

You should go back to Reddit whether there's any legal grounds to impeach Trump or not.

OK

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Oh, the center-"left" aren't just pushing for President Mike Pence, that wouldn't be enough.

They're pushing for President Mike Pence WITH A NEW BI-"PARTISAN" COLD WAR AGAINST RUSSIA HAND-DELIVERED TO HIS ADMINISTRATION BY THE DEMOCRATS.

Do these idiots not remember what happened when Bill Clinton got impeached? All it did was make him so popular that he was essentially unassailable after that point.

I've been concerned about what will happen if the electorate totally loses faith in the system, and what kind of true monster might be born (a revivalism of widespread domestic terrorism, assassination of officials, journalists etc.), but it occurred to me recently… What about Whitewater? Remember that? The time the president was impeached. You know, Clinton. The thing nobody every mentions for some reason? The GOP literally impeached Bill Clinton as a result of a witch hunt, the original investigation was totally baseless, it failed, they tried it again, harder, and found some BS to impeach him on an did. How come nobody talks about that? And then what was the result? Did Americans riot? Nothing.

There is no risk of jail because he didn't do anything illegal. If he did than the Clinton's did with manafort and Ukraine or others in the GOP with the Brits and their dossier, or everyone and Israel. We are not at war with Russia. There simply is no law that was broken.

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They gave Clinton a 72% approval rating. He was a fucking hero after the impeachment. Impeachment has never worked.

Where the fuck did they ever imply that?
Paypay larpers don't scare anyone

It got Nixon out of office.

He doesn't have enough energy to win reelection.

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We can only hope.

We'll just end with someone like Macron. Probably Zuckerberg.

Nixon was never impeached. He resigned and was then preemptively pardoned by his successor, Gerald Ford.

I feel even worse now.

Yuh huh. The Predators had already incriminated themselves before showing up. If a "12 year old girl" invites a 45yo guy over for cupcakes and video games, and he shows, they can't bust him for pedophilia, despite it looking suspicious as hell. The main reason that this is blowing up is that it's taken as tacit evidence that some other sort of COLLUSION (tired of that word yet?) was going on, hacking or bribery or whatever, proof pending.

Suppose the pussygate tape, or something worse, had been acquired by the Democrats through China or something – would anyone in the mainstream care? It might be worse for Junior that he *didn't* get anything, since if Putin had handed him a tape of Hillary shooting Vince Foster while wearing a hijab and gnawing on a puppy skull, "Russia subverts American Democracy" probably wouldn't be the big story.


Don't be sad, you might as well brace yourself for the Z-man's turn now.

Looks like someone can't smell what The Rock is cooking

the obvious problem is this was filed by 2 guys who has been pushing this since the start
they got practically no support from Congress or the Senate

tbh an administration of natty gains would be infinitely more preferable to le dropout internet billionare man

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It's more correct to say that the THREAT of impeachment has worked