Islamic theocrat here. I fucked up my tripcode on the last thread, and decided to make a new one...

Islamic theocrat here. I fucked up my tripcode on the last thread, and decided to make a new one, not that it's important. Anyways, I posted here a few days back, and I'm back here again with another thread. A question to the commies lurking around: Do you think concepts like Christian anarchism or Islamic anarchism or whatever to be redundant? Imo yes. 3 of the major prophets were kings themselves, and a Caliphate has a council of scholars who elect a man based on his knowledge of Islam. But there is a popular element to it. Anyways, your thoughts?

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Well at least it isn't another one of those shitty pisstian threads.

Rejection of reason and the separation of church and state amounts to nothing short of sheer reaction (i.e. anti-Enlightenment).

I'm not a Christian lmao.

Shut up you stupid NIGGER go back to your MUD HUT

Tell me old friend, we were the ones who proved the Quran right with science itself.

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Very nice. You used my name and tripcode.

Which is why it says that babies come from a clot of blood and that the world is flat.

Actually, a nutfa means semen, and God said the Earth was a "dahaahaa" or a spheroid.

He created the heavens and earth in truth. He wraps the night over the day and wraps the day over the night and has subjected the sun and the moon, each running [its course] for a specified term. Unquestionably, He is the Exalted in Might, the Perpetual Forgiver.

Also, the "spread out" verses are supposed to be metaphorical, referring to how the Earth looks flat.

Secondly, it's "yukawwir" which means "wrap around [as if a ball]"

I'm gonna use my old tripcode, fuck this

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Once you go 'pure' and single-minded enough into an abrahamic totalitarian religion it eventually becomes anarchistic. All is in the hands of god, all is as god wills etc. states and governments are of the mundane and thus less meaningful than pure religious faith. This sort of passive anarchism is obviously not of the sort advocated for on this board, since it is based on withdrawal from society rather than the transformation of society.

For the relevant type of anarchy - maybe if you take some concepts and re-utilise them, like 'all are equal in the eyes of god' and make it an ideal for the society as a whole, perhaps some kind of a society built around the concept of congregation?
I'm not too familiar with islamic dogma, but maybe something about a Jihad against unjust rule or against the self that is subservient to authorities other than god? Then again as far as I understand islamic doctrine contains some reference to divinely-ordained absolute dictators. Eh, religion is malleable, say that no ruler has the authority of god with them so everyone who claims so is committing some religious offence or another and subservience (even mental) to any authority other than god (not an institution that represents god) is diluting their absolute dominance.

read Defenders of Reason in Islam: Mu'Tazilism from Medieval School to Modern Symbol

And the sun runs [on course] toward its stopping point. That is the determination of the Exalted in Might, the Knowing.
And the moon - We have determined for it phases, until it returns [appearing] like the old date stalk.
It is not allowable for the sun to reach the moon, nor does the night overtake the day, but each, in an orbit, is swimming.

And I am greatful for that. Islam is 100% compatable with revolutionary ideals, unlike pisstianity. The Ba'ath party is a perfect example of how Islam can mesh with socialism. Had it not been for the amerikkkan CIA destabilizing the entire region the arab socialism could have defused a lot of conflict and been a step towards true Marxist ideals.

Now compare that to cristcucks who have fought bitterly against the welfare of workers worldwide.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_communism
Fucking lies, we done just as much for the progress of socialism and helping the working class

Thomas J. Hagerty was a Catholic priest from New Mexico, USA, and one of the founding members of the Industrial Workers of the World (IWW). Haggerty is credited with authoring the IWW Preamble, assisting in writing the Industrial Union Manifesto and drawing up the first chart of industrial organization. He became a Marxist before his ordination in 1892 and was later influenced by anarcho-syndicalism. Haggerty's formal association with the church ended when he was suspended by his archbishop for urging miners in Colorado to revolt during his tour of mining camps in 1903.

Also stop mixing protestants with Christianity in general.

Fuck off you reddipol shitposter. Perfectly good thread here fucked up by you slavish devotion to the buybull.

Mutazilla are regarded as apostates and or deviants by many Muslims today also they are extinct.
They also believed nothing close to communism, they called themselves ahlul tawheed wal adl, their concept of divine justice conflicts strongly with secular rules and laws of communism.
They held power in the abbasid caliphate which yet again was far from communism or socialism, if I could compare it to anything it would be a theocratic monarchy with some good social services derived from Islam, certainly not anarchism either.
In modern times mutazilla have influenced the Shia who believe in imamah aka divine right to rule and this led to monarchies of those from ahlul bayt.
The ibadhiyya or ibadis in Oman are mutazilla in aqeedah too and they are strongly pro monarchy and recognise the right of the 4 rashidun caliphs and hasan in their right to rule.

Tl;dr communism, socialism and anarchism do not gel with Islam.

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Muslims deserve the gulag

I support some types of islamist in an anti-imperialist/anti us/nato context. However, ultimately I am in favor of a secular government.

That's literally not true though. If you're going to form a critique of religion you should have a stronger foundational basis than this user.


Hi OP, can you tell me what makes you believe that Islam is compatible with modern capitalism? Islam isn't explicitly socialist or anything but the current global financial system is upheld by usury and other haram financial practices worldwide that can IMO only be fixed by bringing down the current system regardless of what comes next. What is your plan for striving to this goal?

al-amr bil ma'ruf wa al-nahy 'an al munkar, This principle allows rebellion against authority, if it is legitimate, as a means of preventing evil. they Questioning everything in islam with
Logic and rationalism, inspired by Greek philosophy and reason
also their concept of divine justice is just : "human have free will so if they do wrong they must be punished"


and ibn rochd(Averroes) did nothing wrong

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Holla Forums are liberals larping as edgy communists

No one's reported it, so I haven't done anything about it.

Do you xtians even understand how retarded you sound.

What does that image have to do with Christians in any way?
Whats the definition of "basic socialism" were going for here? Also, are we saying that any person of X faith that pushes for socialism also mean X faith is pushing for it to (i.e. A person who believes in Islam pushing for socialism is now an Islamic Socialist, a person who believes in Christianity pushing for socialism is now a Christian Socialist, etc.)?