Can you watch porn in any form and still be a leftist?

Can you watch porn in any form and still be a leftist?

Yes

You cannot have a real political opinion if you haven't jacked off to incest porn at least once

Nope, all true communists are chemically castrated, fun is bourgeois

The duality of man

Regardless of whether you do or don't, there's no ethical consumption under capitalism.

No, you must seize a means of reproduction yourself

Well duh! Of course you can.
Do you think all leftists masturbate to pictures of young Stalin only or what?

If you fit this description you're getting the wall before the booj.

Some Marxists believe that since under capitalism people are forced to work, working in porn, where sex is the job, then they are coerced into sex. This means porn is rape.

Can you buy games on steam and still be a leftist?
Can you buy food from the super market and still be a leftist?
Can you buy medicine and still be a leftist?
Can you be born in a private hospital and still be a leftist?
Can you be buried or cremated by the private sector and still be a leftist?

CAN YOU FUCK OFF?

some marxists are dummies

No, that's stupid feminists. Not marxists.

Aren't Marxists also feminists?

Marx wasn't a feminist so no.

Marxism doesn't care about "liberating women".
Marxism cares about liberating the working class.

If a woman is working class, why does she need "extra liberation"?

Feminism as a family of political ideologies is very nebulous and hard to generalize. There is such a thing as Marxist feminism, but it's completely unrelated to the mainstream concept of feminism that hates fun.

No. Porn is inherently anti-revolutionary.

How so?

Stop watching professionally produced porn and watch amature videos where no one is exploited and everyone is having fun and some even fucking with love and passion.

Mainstream porn is bourgeois capitalist sexuality propaganda meant to try and convince you to think of females as the other and objects of desire instead of autonomous beings.

Nice feet

yes. stop astroturfing Holla Forums

kek

Incest porn is normie now though

The Marxist Memes page is super brocialist and still say that porn under capitalism is rape.

My comrade.

Not saging this shit is counter-revolutionary

Marxist Memes is cointelpro

That seems like an entirely different argument from if it's a feminist thing

Even if that were true, there are still people who do porn willingly and would do so under communism.

also


and

Some Marxists believe amateur porn does not exist?

There was a time when xirxist memes hated us and was all about IdPol.

SUDENTLY it became anti-IdPol.

I wonder why…

Anyway, porn is not inherently bad, but becomes "bad" under capitalism. Porn without exploitation and not for sale is to be promoted.

Isn't Engels considered one of the first feminists?

Intersectionality

You bumped this thread lol everybody is going to lose their marbles.

Does anyone know who runs Marxist Memes? It just seems like someone who is 12 starting arguments

Does this mean I'm not allowed to eat because the food is produced by people coerced into wage labor?

Nobody watches that poorly produced garbage

Why would them becoming anti-idpol make them cointel? do you think anti-idpol is a cointel position?

burger BS.

Well go to xvideos is flooded with amateur porn and really good content.

Being exploited into producing food and being exploited into sex are both exploitation but occupy different moral planes

Why?

Go back to bed, grandpa.

I'm not sure I can provide a rigorous defense for why different immoral acts carry different moral weight in society at the moment as it's pretty late

No. But it is a bit…odd…


spooks


Spoken like a true bourgie scum ready for gulag.
Will you not have the ability to see ferraris and so on in socialism? Yes.
Will it matter? No.
Will you drive one anyway? Probably not.

I think BLACKED.com is pretty revolutionary. It' all about seizing the means of reproduction from capitalist oppressors.

Fuck off plebs. I fap more in a week than you have in your entire life and my expert opinion is that amature porn is shit.

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How is it possible for a human being to be THIS wrong?

your expert opinion is shit comrade
Also don't fap too much if you want to have pleasure

Yesh.
Congratulationsh.

You don't get the point.

You cannot use what does not exist and there is no reason for it to exist.

"Profetional" porn exists for profit. No profit, no Brazzers.

Sorry, but that's how it works!

Will there still be porn? Sure.
Will old porn stop existing? I think not.
Will people start making porn "like the old days" for fun or art? I dunno. Maybe?

the only morally right porn to watch is amature porn

fuck off with these threads tbh

How fucking PATHETIC do you have to be to choose porn based on muh ideological purity instead of objective factors like lighting, camera work, and extremity of acts performed.

y'all dum.
btw pro porn is still shit

or just go with 2D, which will give you good quality while avoiding any moral dillemas

also since when are porn discussion not thinly veiled excuses to post porn you revisionist fucks?

I don't give a shit about how "revolutionary" it is, I prefer amateur porn because I find it more arousing. Watching two people in tons of makeup have passionless sex is wholly uninteresting.

We are talking about post revolutionary porn, you idiot.

Ofcourse you can watch whatever degeneracy you want now!

xirxist memes used to be a personified SJW stereotype. wtf happened?

Normieshit live action porn is bourgeois. Drawn fetish art by amateurs is the proletarian frontier.

Yes its extremely left wing to watch porn, its extremely right wing to make porn and then hide it and watch it while you murder jewish slave workers in the basement of your krupp factory during the late 30's and early 40's

I think you're gonna be ok as long as you watch it less than 2 times a day and understand it effects the dopaminergic circuits in your brain and will cause retarded side effects like ED and porn-induced bedroom OCD and other stupid shit like that, you can get odd performance anxiety from watching women cum too often without participating, this is just a hypothesis I have never seen research on the actual correlation between exposure to women cumming on camera and trouble performing in the bedroom. It could be the total opposite of course.

I'm incredibly disappointed that this thread does not, in fact, contain porn

Now we are fucking talking.
3dpd is normie shit, futa is utter perfection.

Why do I live in this timeline.

HEAR HEAR

Those are some really saggy tits.

EVERY. TIME.

Real amateur is hard to find nowadays, the damn studios found this out and churn out fake ones. On the other hand, sex selfies and homegrown and revenge porn are on the rise. The advent of omnipresent cameras and the surveillance State had to have a positive.

She looks like a man. Are you afflicted with homosexuality, OP?

Based on the arguments, it seems Xirxist found out what "materialism" means for Marx.

Is that a girl (male)?

i need to jerk off, and that's all there is to it. there's no political ideology strong enough to take me away from my porn, ok.

No ethical consumption under capitalism, sweetie. Even if porn under capitalism is rape, the only solution is to end capitalism - not stop consuming the porn itself, which will be produced regardless. (You don't pay for porn or leave ads on, do you? Because that would be unspeakably stupid.)


Furthermore drawn porn is the thinking man's wank.

honestly i don't care if it's wrong because i just hate women, i hate them almost as much as i hate myself honestly and i don't care if it means i'm not a leftist or whatever i still dislike capitalism and am a socialist but i just can't stand women they hate me, they hate me and i hate them back

Being a leftist isn't some lifestyle bullshit. Stop making these threads.

why should I only watch it twice a day?

Erectile disfunction and premature ejaculation.

what's wrong with that

If you don't have sex nothing I guess. If you are fucking blowing your load early or not getting it up is shit.

so nothing then, got it

you can be brocialist at best

If you don't run a porn blog you cant be a leftist in my humble opinion.

Literary erotica > shota/loli hentai > amateur couple porn >>> professional fake shit

Alain de Botton (school of life) runs a porn site, you know. See "porn as therapy".

Good taste my dude

Sex work, including porn, is perfectly fine.

Sex work, including porn, is, like pretty much all work, exploitative under capitalism.

Sex work, including porn, becomes, like any work, horrible and degrading when it's made illegal under capitalism because the workers no longer have any recourse for abuse by the capitalists.

People just have different attitudes toward sex work because of spooks about muh sexual purity.

This kind of shit makes me not want to even bring up this issue because I'm a bi white man. If you try to talk about this shit you will get your sexuality dragged into it.

Do you mean my comment, or theirs?

I mean the shit your comment is referring to. It's really irritating when people bring up personal shit, especially when they assume incorrectly.

Yeah, I'm in the same boat and know exactly what you mean. Good luck being taken seriously if you're not flaming gay. These people are largely pointless circlejerkers though, I never see their type at the centre of political fights where it matters.

It's a problem for me because I'm in the closet for living in a reactionary area. I've already had someone I know turn against me over it I think, based on their comments.