"G20 Violence Prompts Calls for New Curbs on Anti-Capitalist Militants"

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I don't doubt that smashy orgs get infiltrated by cointelpro but I highly doubt the majority of them aren't legit. I know a few smashies IRL and they're 100 percent certain that burning enough cop cars every once in a while is somehow doing something.

Unless you have some sort of evidence that the majority are cointelpro you can't just say everything I don't like about the Left is cointelpro. Useful idiots would probably be a more accurate term

I think you underestimate the retardation of the vast majority of anarchists.

Friendly reminder the cops were beating the shit out of peaceful liberal protestors.

Bucha pussies need to learn to hit back

I think I'm misunderstanding something, because I don't see what would be wrong with that.

Fight back against cops who are abusing protesters is fundamentally a different thing from burning random shit that isn't even close to where the g20 is held. And don't misunderstand I'm not upset because of the poor local businesses or any horseshit like that.

The point is that if there was no plan specifically to stop the G20 from happening all together or attacking the State directly there shouldn't have even been a protest, violent or not. Refer to the Zizek link here:

You missed the part where the Eurozone is going to establish a registry of European far-leftists and crack down on "extremisim" (which means anything to the Left of neoliberal social democratic parties)

really makes me think

Really firing up those neurons

Yes, if you've been paying attention to media the last year you'd know they've been called evil woman hater commies and pawns of Trump/LePen for a while.

This. I know a few aswell.
Its like 50% Heroin addict dipshits and 50% people who like to garden

can't they just use redwatch?

I don't think you understand what I'm saying. As "radical" as corbyn/sanders/melenchon are they would never in a million years be able to fundamentally change anything about their nations even if they shifted the overton window leftward because they're all a part of global neoliberal capitalism now and what the multinational corporations and banks say goes. Their proxies in government would cuck any "left socdems" at every turn but they wouldn't out and out oppress them with literal violence. Sanders and Melenchon both capitulated to convince their followers to vote for the neoliberal over the far-right candidate anyway so they aren't very radical in the first place, they aren't real threats and they don't have the potential to be.

I should clarify that when I say "smashie" i'm talking about the people who SMASH things and not all the ones who participated in the protest. For example, the guys who got in fights with the cops or got arrested are quite obviously not cointelpro. The guys who go around breaking windows and spraying walls? 90% cointelpro.

With friends like these, who the fuck needs cointelpro?

memes tbh

honestly, I feel like we need the violent left.
It's the only thing that gets attention right now, and about every "peaceful" passive resistance movement was only effective because of them. It's good dialeectics to offer your enemies a sword and an olive branch at the same time.

I don't think you understand what I'm saying. These new socdems and thier alleged bad behavior would be used as an excuse to clamp down on left, despite being at best some comfy reforms. This clamp down was coming regardless of antifa rioting, ML larping, trot newspaper selling, leftcom armchair reading, etc.

This is our own fault for being happy with an online milleu with a phantasm in the title ('lefty'), a reactionary counter-culture of being "the 'left' version of Holla Forums", situated on a right-wing nationalist imageboard.

It is time to advance forward in the negation of both statist socialists and primitivists; we need a libertarian socialist chan.

Fuck off laclau.

I agree.

Who fucking cares if you gather even a million people if all your going to do is smash stuff, go home, and live the next day as if it never happened? All what is going to happen is that the police are going to crack down more and when the actual revolution comes the police will be fully ready to stop it. I'm no conspiracy nut, but I believe most of this mindless left wing rioting is just a way to suppress the left.

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Fucking liberals

Smashies proving that they are effective in generating media attention whereas no one gives a shit about the alternative G20 that also took place.

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okay

Well, what are you doing? Besides bitch on indonesian gossip blogs, that is

I prefer an open confrontation. Lets draw the boundaries and have it out.

Is that a Marxist-Leninist hat icon you got there? You need to change that…

The status quo righties can't actually prevent far left politics without admitting they hate civil liberty, and as far as PR goes, the public has the collective memory of a goldfish if people aren't being killed en masse.

Sure, they might not be achieving anything, but why pretend that smashies aren't hilarious? The mountains of butthurt that they generate on social media are comedy gold.

and what you people really need to understand is that if nobody is throwing rocks at cops then they have free reign. That's it, they have literally nothing at all to be afraid of.

If the majority of people who have had any real role in irl left wing activism aren't already of police databases in the first place I'll eat my shoe.

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As if the state wouldn't find any other boogeyman to use to militarize the popo. Hell, they use liberal protesters as an excuse to do it.

You are an idiot because the more oppressed we are the stronger we become.
You are just in the road to turn into a lazy fat ass socdem or leftcom.

During the Russian revolution the protesters and striker were gunned down by the army and the police.
But if your long term goal is creating a party that isn't born through revolutionary struggle then you are nothing more than a reformer.

WOW WHAT A SHOCKER

Oh yeah I forgot we were supposed to be friends with the government

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The state already militarized the cops while most conservative party voters and maybe half of neoliberals already think cops are valiant guardians keeping the hordes in line. The idea that smashies burning a few cars is the cause of all this is laughable, all that did was give us some butthurt and give smashies attention.

when will white liberals shut the fuck up? this arrogant elitism is why the global left fucking despises you

Sounds like it was successful.

I was thinking about this the other day. Nowadays, political sabotage is pretty much a science, and every kid knows you can plant someone in your rival group to fuck them up. Absolutely nothing is easier to join than a protest, so it has become more or less a useless, or even detrimental, form of activism. Not that it was that effective to begin with, but still. Sadly, it's also the most basic form of leftist activism.

That was the goal Smashies wanted. Cities to tell the G20 to go fuck itself.

It keeps happening.

Armchair activists strike again

No he didn't you fucking slimy little Yank.

Actually as the right is becoming completely unhinged and shows their reactionary face it might have done good in a way.

Reminds me of that meme that rightcucks like so much: "15 dollar minimum wage? Here's your replacement xD"
Automation happens with or without minimum wage increases, state repression happens with our without actual threats to the status quo. They were fucking asking for it anyway by hosting it not just in Hamburg, but next to a very leftist district.

Honestly wouldn't surprise me if they did it on purpose so they had a reason to crack down on anti-capitalists. They're willing to risk millions in property damage and putting the lives of people and I hate to say this, but cops aswell as they're used as pawns in this sick game on the line to justify authoritarian measures.

They are made up of the capitalist pigs.

would you prefer to ask G20 nicely to stop being capitalist

OP is a Guardian libcuck so of course that's what he'd prefer

It's useless, how can we achieve to abolish the capitalist system if we are peaceful?