Does anybody here think commuting feels even worse than the actual work itself? Don't get me wrong, I do think most jobs suck — I just also feel like the atomized, servile process of going to your workplace and coming back home (especially if you're driving a car) is even more dreadful than whatever you even toil your life away at.
What steps could be undertaken to lesser the soul-crushing burden of commuting? Could a socialist society "solve" the commuting problem?
yes
abolish work
Nah tbh, I quite like commuting by train: mostly because it allows for a disconnect from the digital and is the only good time I can actually read in peace. That or sticking on some good music and watching the countryside roll by.
Driving is shit though.
Self driving cars will ameliorate traffic problems to a huge degree. They'll also make it easier to do more engaging things on commutes. Being taxied around by publicly owned self driving cars may become the norm in a few decades.
Playing good music helps a lot too.
Massive city urbanization is pretty AIDS, but retreating from cities would be a huge logistical feat even after capitalism.
This.
Decent public transportation offers a great opportunity to simply sit down and read.
We should abolish cars tbh
I walk to work every day, it takes me about half an hour one way. Does this make me labour aristocracy?
Google is letting off the gas with the project and Uber is collapsing on itself. You're super naive and uninformed if you think otherwise.
y'all motherfuckers need to learn at least the tiniest bit about machine learning before you bring out the memes, to be quite honest.
Did you even read what I said before responding? I was literally making your point but with more specifics.
Sorry, I mistook you for someone who does believe in the Artificial Intelligence 2.0 meme, but just thinks it's evil and wrong. No offense meant.
Cars are shit in a million ways and the only reason they're used as much as they are is because they were promoted as part of the american dream Post-WWII. It's a typical case of capitalism having to do more with the state than the market, the government builds tarmac roads and neglects public transport, and cars step in.
Sure, you need a car because public transport has flaws, but if all the labor time and resources that go into the car economy (manufacturing, advertising, repair, operating gas stations etc. etc.) went into public transport instead you wouldn't even need cars.
The only acceptable form of personal transportation (except for jeeps when we're talking about going to bumfuck nowhere in the australian outback) are bikes.
While I agree with you in principle, please stop reducing every fucking thing to "american dream" or "protestant work ethics"
sincerely, an eastern european. we have to deal with that kind of shit too.
I would think following lines in the most efficient way and not going when there's something in front would be one of the easiest things for computers to do.
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Really nigga, you don't think the autocar will use like three or four different forms of identification of other vehicles (cameras in different places, lasers, chips that become mandatory, off the top of my head)?
Dunno, while I was memeing about Uber, there was a literal Tesla car that ran into a literal white truck because of an AI misfire: theguardian.com
One of the main issues is that not everyone can afford to live in a city so they are forced to live some distance away. If we could just move everyone in, building hi-rise hosing where needed, we could cut the need for transport down drastically.
Secondly, cars are a cancer we've allowed for too long. 90% of all the cars you see on the road are carrying just 1 person, clogging up streets. A shift to public transportation, maybe supplanted with a few personal public transports, could eliminate traffic jams and get people where they need to go much more quickly.
Cars are unironically the worst thing ever invented
That seems like it might be more the truck drivers fault but yeah fair enough. I don't know if I think AI cars are ready yet and I'm surprised that autopilot is even allowed at this point but fair point, I think they will be ready soon though.
What I meant that """""AI""""" is a meme no better than what ended up in the first AI Winter. While I'm all in for the research, I have a feeling it's not long until people realize that the current impressive results are only achieved due to a lot of computing power, not due to some true intelligence. (i.e. a non-recursive neural network (like the one used by Google to recognize dogs on pictures, or to beat humans at Go) is fundamentally just a nonlinear function, and therefore less complicated than any Turing machine. Sure, recursive neural networks with memory would be more intersting, but first things first. Perhaps someone would notice that you can literally fool an """"AI"""" to recognize a picture of a cat an as ostrich, solely by reverse engineering it's classification algorithm with the same tools that were used to train it). I still think the current state of affairs is pretty sad, because the "machine learning" bandwagon does harbor some interesting techniques, that will all be trampled when the general public realizes that the AI memetery is a bunk. Which is sad, because there's a lot of solid AI/ML research that's going to be trampled just the same.
But, you could do the same with a human…
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I don't think it's worse, but it definetely should be counted in the work hours. I've always had to work far from home and that meant +2 hours a day pissed into working that nobody compensated for.
well, there's that thing about communism being the abolition of the distintion between work and free time, so ideally most people would work on their italian left communist armchair, but i don't really buy that's gonna happen anytime soon. Now a huge reduction in work hours, that's gonna happen for sure. Shit, it's gonna happen even before we turn to socialism.
Good vid though the background music is strangely oppressive. We need to bring back constructivist architecture tbh.
As long as I don't have to drive, commuting is fine.
I like the bus.
Driving feels like I have to do a job to get to my job.
I really enjoy driving back and forth to work, listening to podcasts or music. But then again I enjoy my work like a good little wagie
Self driving AI is a bit more complex than just a big deep learning network, I would assume, tovarish.
I fucking hate commuting, even if it's just the train. I'd rather be either at home or at work.
I don't mind driving to work but then again I live in a suburb where the traffic is usually tolerable.
I would lose my mind if I had to sit in a big city traffic jam every working day of the week.
yeah, because life is all about getting everywhere as quickly as possible and becoming a super efficient robot. fuck off with your concrete jungle worship, nobody wants to live in your hell. read some ellul faggot, and don't ever call yourself a marxist again.
I love this guy. He has a lot of cool vlogs like this.
Full video for those interested: youtube.com