Taibbi and Ames are rapists?

It's still not threatening them with anal sex. We might not find it funny in hindsight, but they regarded it as a joke subjectively at that moment rather than a threat. Whether the women actually did, who knows.

Didn't Rolling Stone run that hoax article about the gang rape of a female student on the UVa campus?

Was Taibbi employed there at the time?

Because if he was, I find it incredible that conservatives didn't pick up on it.

He says that now.
We can't know the tone, but given the rest of the stuff it doesn't look good to me.

"Now"? He said it in the same book he mentioned it in. You might as well just say the whole account is fabricated if you're going to deny parts of the story you find inconvenient based on no evidence.

Wow, so Ames is basically Roosh-type figure that went to Russia to fuck desperate women( but at least Roosh didn't fuck 15 year-old girls , as far as I know)

Can you imagine what the irony left would do if a conservatiev media figure fucked underage girls?

Here we fucking go

It's true though. If they don't go after him it would be unspeakably hypocritical.

Yeah we all know conservative media figures only fuck underage boys

There's nothing worse than this festival of preening self-righteousness on the left. It's like a modern shivaree, except the object is to chase you out of existence. I don't know what the point is in critiquing the ethical structure of society if we're just going to recapitulate it anyway whenever opportunism calls.

This isn't yelling at nick mullen for calling someone a faggot. This, if the allegations are correct, is admitted rape and pedophilia. Now I'm not gonna sit here and moralize and pretend like it's the end of the world that out of all the shitheads in Russia in the 90s these two were included, but from a purely PR perspective on the left it's absolutely a good idea to not mix with them going forward or at least until it's demonstrated that this really was all just "satire".

When is the left going to kick out these virtue-signaling ephebophobic retards? It's not your business to police other people's bedrooms "for their own good."

Holy shit, this is hard to read. This is some funny games tier shit here. Are they americans right? Because this how americans act

Why are retards on here too fucking dumb to realize what hills they need to die on. You're not going to convince normies of your position and you're just gonna drag the left down with you. Purely from a self-interested point of view I could give less of a fuck what some dudes did or didn't do in 2000 but I refuse to let it do damage to the wider leftist cause in the US jut because you're too assblasted to not push your retarded pet issue into everything.

I mean that's basically how it was to be an American in Russia in the 90s. Shit was like Willy Wonka's factory but for crime.

Nobody is treating this guy with an exception so you're not actually making a point you're being angry about self righteousness by being self righteous and it's annoying as fuck

Fuck American normies. They all deserve the wall tbh.

so some SJW thought they looked at her funny once, and they did it a few times after that because she didn't say anytihng or was unable or unwilling to articulate what it was she had a problem with for shit because what she was really aiming at was either character assassination or a social blank check for them to jump through whatever hoop she wanted? Also wow indie journos did something wrong and that makes everything they reported invalid woman hater lies haha looks like the establishment wins again lol wow fancy that.

Fucking 15 year old girls isn't pedophilia you dumb fuck redditor

Read the thread before you kneejerk.

I remember when Jeevesmeister (some media guy) raped a drunk woman a year ago and his NYC leftist buddies (Amber A'lee Frost included) didn't give a flying fuck about it until it got too big to ignore.

Face it, anyone that thinks that the Left is a safe space for women is delusional. Because of it's libertine attitude to sexuality, it's far more dangerous than mainstream conservatism as its inevitable it would attract predatory dudebros.

Whenever you point this out you get people like who say that it's okay to molest and rape women as long as you're socialist enough.

You know that this is all common knowledge and has been for years and that people have tried to smear Ames and Taibibi over this before and nobody gave a shit right?

"Rape" isn't something a bunch of jackasses on the internet can determine merely from some book and interview excerpts. Regardless of whether it could be called "pedophilia," 15 could have been over the age of consent in Russia at that time, but without a more exact date it's impossible to know.

No one said that.

I'm pointing out these "kill the sinner" Twitter mobs are wrongheaded from a left-wing view, and I'm sick of seeing them.

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You only hate Twitter mobs if they target leftists (specifically, the leftists you idolise). I presume you love it when the irony left piles on Shapiro/Cernovich/PJW.

I mean, if Stefan Molyneux wrote a book admitting he impregnated a 15 year old girl in the Philipines then forced her to get an abortion, would you respectfully avoid mentioning it? Would you get upset if people deem it immoral? Would you argue against people implying it's behaviour typical of ancaps/libertarians?

Back to Reddit.

Normies are the reason for Twitter mobs, and the regular lynch mobs that preceded them. They're the reason for every dumbass moral panic that ever existed, whether it's the drug war, violent video games or "muh anyone one second under 18 is an innocent little angel prone to manipulation!" If we got rid of normies, the world would be immeasurably improved. If you want to get rid of Twitter mobs, start going after the root cause: fucking normie scum.

someone said something similar about David Graeber a while back but it all blew over. I'm not gonna believe anything until i see proofs.

That isn't what's happening here.

Then exactly no one.

You seem extremely butthurt about the Twitter irony left.

I don't care about Molyneux, so no. My thoughts about ethical spectacles like this would be the same.

So if you were with your friend on vacation in a undeveloped nation and he paid for a prostitute you knew to be 15 years old, you would still consider him a friend?

Sure, why not. I'd feel more put off by the prostitution than the age, as the age of consent is an obvious ethical/legal construct (France and Sweden both have 15 as their age of consent). I would be disgusted if the prostitute were a pre-teen, although even that emotional reaction has nothing to do with the left.

always found it weird that we have ancaps/lolberts are perverted/disgusting threads every week and then have threads like these

This is about coercion rather than age. Stop injecting your desire for teenage girls into every single thread.

So how long will it take for Chapo to defend these dirtbags?

The #1 joke against libertarians is they want the age of consent to be abolished.

I'm talking about real consequences as they exist in the US legal system you fucking autistic pedant.

It happened like 20 years ago in Moscow

if these Tabbi and Ames people really did write this then they are scum and for being a dirty scat lovers they deserve to be used as a fertilizer in our collective farms, even if it all was just "ironic"
you can't be ironic about some things even if you try hard enough

and in general sex-tourists of all stripes should get raped to death by a horse dick
ordinary tourists are insufferable enough already

Isn't Ames the guy from radio war nerd?

I think so. It's surprising to me, he seemed beta on the show. Maybe it's a case of the predatory side coming out only when in a position of power?

:c I hope this doesn't throw shade on John

It's a shame. I like the show, but this makes my skin crawl.

Yeah this is gross as fuck tbh
I kinda want John to drop him and find a new co-host

pretty sure it's the government guy who was being held hostage during the big shell incident

They are very scummy guys, I still follow them on twitter though. Their analysis on Russia and other topics is a lot better than most.

Today in Reddit doesn't understand satire.

it's pretty shitty satire assuming its true.

yeah no
even such satire speaks volumes about the author

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This isn't even just hatred of women. This is an employer taking advantage of his subordinate. This is the Coda to 50 years of Cold War, in which the winner grinds the loser's face into the dirt.

I'm tired of this morality policing control-freak feminazi nonsense shitting up socialism. Roasties need to get the fuck out. Being butthurt that guys like teen girls instead of worn-out old hags isn't part of socialism. Also, everyone who hates anime should be killed.

The left-libertarian quadrant of that picture is the same as the right-libertarian quadrant, just with fewer words.

No, that's Richard Ames.

If you're an adult who fucks teenagers you're a predator, full stop. Drop the feminazi boogeyman.

Kill yourself my man

I hope Ames makes a statement because I almost feel like pulling my pledge to RWN

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What they described was, yeah

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No I'm a man and I think you're gross in fact most people would agree with Me feminazis have nothing to do with it it's just repellent.

Nope. Teenagers are not only capable of making informed decisions, most of them are more capable than your roastie asses.

You're not really doing a lot not proving the point rn

What they did wasn't give the chance for an "informed decision", actually

He's baitposting.

Yeah, you people just need to be driven out. Not only out of the left, but out of everywhere. You self-righteous faggots aren't qualified to decide what's predatory and what isn't.

Forcing anal is actually complimenting someone's appearance

You seem awfully upset about something you never did :v)

Keep telling yourself that after socialism is installed when you try to stop a 20-year-old guy from dating a 16-year-old girl who loves him and 30 of his friends come to your house and beat you to death. We're sick of your moral panicking bullshit.

You keep misrepresenting everything fam. Here's your last (you)

Pot, meet kettle.

Roasties are really getting desperate, aren't they? Before you try to respond, keep in mind that we literally had a post in here unironically use the phrase "safe space." The roastie menace is real.

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This is how I know you either didn't read this shit or are just making shit up to go on your retarded crusade. The age is secondary here

You're going to summer camp whether you like it or not

I own guns. Try again.

Sorry, nu-males don't count. Protip: Your obsequiousness to feminism and its constant shrieking about imaginary age-based exploitation won't get you laid.

how the fuck are you a leftist exactly?

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The whole eXile crew is basically nazbol, they literally had Limonov write for their paper and they all admit to being huge scumbags in their past. They've only recently started to identify as left, they come from a reaganite, anti-liberal, anti-PC background. I'm not saying this stuff isn't disturbing, but if you want your journos to be unproblematic, the eXile is absolutely not the place to look

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You just wandered over here from /r9k/ a week ago you fucking mouth-breathing pedo. You're acting like you can deem who should or shouldn't be in the Left, when you yourself sure as hell aren't in the Left.

I'd bet money that you aren't in an org, you fucking trash, you worm, You'd get thrown into the dumpster the second you started spouting that 'hebephilia' bullshit expecting anyone to care.

Fuck off aspie.

Anybody posting beyond this post has extreme autism.

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You're not doing yourself any favors.

I'm against capitalism. I'm also against arrogant retards like you trying to run other people's personal lives for them. You don't have any right or qualification to do so and it's patently obvious that your tyrannical views stem from deep sexual inadequacies that you're trying to compensate for. You're the same as a drug warrior or George Bush talking about his nonexistent weapons of mass destruction. Neither of those are part of the left and neither are you.

Everyone who posted before this also has extreme autism.

When did /r/socialism start thinking they were welcome here?

lol, triggered.

In all seriousness, I came to Holla Forums shortly after the first exodus way back in 2014 as part of GamerGate. I also happen to be more well-versed in socialist theory than you. Protip: Being a Christian right-tier posturing faggot who thinks they have to run everyone's life isn't part of socialist theory. Teenagers don't need your "protection". In fact, they chafe at it and resent you for it, because it's patronizing bullshit and they're well aware that it's not intended to help them, but to assuage your personal insecurities.

Don't argue with it's an outsider false-flagging as "brocialist" (as you should have figured out by the wordfilter trap that is several years old).

honestly, it may as well be when you're 30
fucking 15-18 year olds is fine if you're a teenager yourself, other than that it's kinda fucked up

See . Unless you were one of the very small group that was on Holla Forums before the first exodus, I've been here longer than you. I was here when "you're golden" and the bunker meme were created.

Why? Because you say so? Not good enough.

Why? Because you say so? Not good enough.

You don't seem to understand how burden of proof works. If you want to ban something, you have to prove that it's bad, not the other way around. That's what freedom is like.

Just posting once more in here because the ephebophobic fuckwads seem to have gotten triggered out of the thread on account of being thoroughly BTFO. This has been a thread derail though, so I'm giving one last chance for them to produce anything remotely resembling a rebuttal before we hopefully get back on topic. Respond, cowards. Explain why you have the right to manage someone else's life. Explain why you deserve to decide who's mature enough to consent and who isn't when I haven't seen a lick of maturity out of you fucking idiots.

If you don't protect the weak of your flock, you are by my definition not a man. I would beat the shit out of you if I found you preying on young teenage boys/girls, and I'd feel good about it.
Moralism is good, and pathetic shitstains should be removed of the earth.

People don't read Taibbi or Ames because they think they're moral exemplars, or even good people, but because they know their shit and criticize centrist hacks and warmongers who deserve it.

Most americans (and everyone in the world tbh) are drooling morons whose moral convictions don't go beyond "illegal = bad". Ofc no one in russia gives a fuck but they will be judged by american audiences based on american laws.

And this isn't one of those "no one really cares" allegations like drug shit either. The concern for this should be purely pragmatic and dismissing it is naive af.

They didn't force anyone to have anal sex. That's something DeBoer invented. It's not in the text which is at

At worst, it was a joke in bad taste. It's not as if this board is free of jokes the vast majority of people would find in bad taste.

The other guy is also right that we're playing into the current pedophile moral panic going on. 15 may have been legal in Russia, but people are just calling it pedophilia because most of us are American or British and have the number "16 = consent age" imprinted in our brains even though it's equally arbitrary.

Why? Because you say so? Not good enough.

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"Abandon people on the left whenever they're attacked by drooling morons" is a bad kind of pragmatism.

fucking SJWs.

Which is why I made an immediate clear and illustrative example with my first post comparing this to Mullen. This is absolutely not worth defending them over.

Holla Forums - ">muh morals" until we're morally outraged

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This is the exact kind of thing people had aneurysms over with Clinton/Pizzagate theories/etc. including many that people like you supported as proving the elites are corrupt and exploitative. These guys being "on your team" doesn't absolve them.

there are plenty of non moralist reasons to oppose fucking teenagers.

This would be scandalous if all the women were in their 20s anyway, dumb age of consent agenda people have to go super autismo over this one detail.

I never supported those.

Absolve how? We're not priests and we have no power to "absolve" anyone of sin, although many of us do seem to believe in mortal sin anyway.

Bill Clinton stuff happened either way. Given how "the left" is viewed by many this is exactly the hill you don't want to die on with leftist representatives

"Absolve" is not meant in a religious sense, clearly

It doesn't fundamentally matter. People aren't going to be deterred from being on the left by Mark Ames or Matt Taibbi existing. You arrive at the views because they're correct, not because everyone on one side is a Good Person.

I'm aware, but my point is that it has a religious origin and connotation. Our conversation is essentially in the same mode, and that's why the moral language we're using parallels the religious language of sin, guilt, and absolution. This has nothing to do with leftism.

do you fucking hear yourself right now dude.

Yeah I hear myself perfectly well. This story isn't about the fucking age

Your vagina being too old and disgusting to compete with a teen girl isn't a reason.

age of consent is 18 in russia you dumbfuck
you can cry all you want, but 30 year old fucking a 15 year old is disgusting
I can understand teenagers having sex but adults should keep their dicks in their pants when it comes to children

Actually it's 16. And 15 isn't a child. By the way, the AoC during the Soviet Union was puberty. Guess you have to stop being a tankie now.

Okay, so from what I can tell, Ames admitted to doing a ton of fucked up shit. However, the only reference to Taibbi doing anything terrible is secondhand, not written by him. We should at least wait for a response from him before we lump him in with Ames.

yes it is you disgusting shit

Teen girls are hot.
I didn't know all these old women were here no wonder leftypol is so shit now.

dude, it's pretty fucked up. This is immediate post-soviet russia. The place was a basketcase shit hole. It's already considered an abuse of power in most developed capitalist countries to make inappropriate comments because it doesn't really matter if you can plausibly deny them as jokes, you have people's lives in your hands sometimes. You can't leave that shit up for misinterpretation, it could be a threat veiled behind faux humor. People "imply" things all the time through humor, especially in situations of asymmetrical power.

Especially if you are in a country as fucked up as Russia was in the 90s, you can't go around joking about how people better blow you or you'll fire them every day. Why defend a boss who is intimidating workers anyways?

They look like rapists. That's more than enough for me.

Zizek was right about this bullshit.

Did you read the thread?

It's not even about age here you dipshit, it was her boss.

One of the only good things about liberal feminism going mainstream is that guys will eventually end up on the receiving end of this sort of thing. Maybe then they will realizing that asking someone out is in itself a sort of power play in the context of an work environment.

Does Taibbi admit to anything? I see this shit about Ames, and I'm guessing if Taibbi was associating closely with him it'd be a little hard to imagine he wasn't doing similar things, but has he made any statements about his time there?

I can't believe this. Ames hosts radio war nerd, which I have been listening to for a long ass time.

I follow Taibbi's articles a lot. He was also on the chapo show a couple times

Christ, why did they do it? Shit

Nvm, sounds like he is really fucking defensive about it. I guess there was the story in the reddit thread of Taibbi admitting he threw coffee at a Vanity Fair journo that wanted to do a story on his years at eXile. Ironically, the journalist said it was after he told Taibbi he wanted to write about it because he didn't like the book, but Taibbi claimed he didn't throw the coffee over the journalist saying he didn't like the book.

That makes it likely that what the redditor posted would be correct. What would Taibbi throw coffee at the journalist over? Probably that he confronted him with his sexual harassment/assault in Russia, and Taibbi went into a rage about it.

Yeah they did some really nasty shit.

That said, Exile/Exiled was amazing and too good for this gay Earth.

I looked around for a digital copy of their book, but no dice. It's from before digital copies of books took off. At least I found Mark Ames' other book, Going Postal, supposed to be breddy gud. I'll upload if anyone wants, it's in EPUB and MOBI formats.

Oh hey it's one of the fags who constantly rails on SJWs' anti-social behavior and disdain for dialogue, but still trusts their word and denies dialogue to people they don't like.

It might not be rape but still, one day I'll find an e-celeb that actually lives up to their image.

Th-thanks.

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I never heard of any of these idiots so please source me.

Depends on how many degrees of separation on Twitter they have between them and Virgil Texas.

Shit, this is the perfect description of this mess.

What do you mean about the Virgil Texas thing? They defend associates of Virgil, or that Virgil has done nasty shit, or??

Jesus Christ, this is a thread about Ames, Taibbi, sex crimes and the legacy of Exile/d, and you fags still manage to shit it up.

Stop replying to trolls. You think you're being clever with your "I know he's a troll but I'll still reply to show him off mmmhehehe". NO, THAT'S RETARDED. You're shitting the thread up all the same. Just don't reply at all.

Also like with DeBoer and virtually all the real leftists in Twitter. They all know for a fact that the socjus generation of liberalism manages to be even worse than liberals used to be: anti-social self-appointed guardians of morality, guilty of all the sins they accuse others of committing, while fighting for fucking pronouns and bathrooms while the American middle class dies and the working class is superexploited. And yet, whenever some diatribe arises, the leftists always believe the bullshit SJWs spout, and the reason is simple gregariousness. They all belong to the same Twitter circles and ultimately, no matter how much the leftists shit on liberals, they still always trust SJWs, seeing as they rub shoulders. Simply being internet friends with a few people immensely discourages someone from criticizing others close to them, let alone one of them. It's like no one applies basic reasoning to anything said by someone in their friends list.

I swear, Twitter will yet cause the fall of human civilization.

Don't forget the real culprit behind this.

This thread is still going? Let's make this real simple

Ames: Most likely a rapist, unlikely to get jail time but probably not smart to associate your brand with him
Taibbi: Did nothing wrong. If you want to complain about SJW fake outrage focus your energy here. Being friends with or knowing bad people doesn't make you a bad person and this is the biggest cancer of the witch hunting left.

You're less mature than the average 15-year-old.

They came from Reddit. You can tell by their use of SJW lingo.

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this is a bunch of shit

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100% truth.

Do you honestly think these people give a fuck? They live for this cancer. They're cancer incarnate. To them, the left is just another way for them to lord over people and feel morally superior despite having done nothing to actually be morally superior. Witness the cunt earlier in this thread who's like "if you don't subscribe to our insane, baseless witch hunt you're not a leftist even if you've been here for fucking years and have a better understanding of anti-capitalist theory and action and I just wandered in from /r/socialism a few months ago." This kind of shit is what makes people give up on the left and leave.

This thread isn't as bad as it first appears. It gives a perfect demonstration of the kind of Twitter mob faggotry that's destroying the left.

See?

Rumor mongering is killing the left.

Nobody on imageboards has ever called themselves a channer, dipshit. Reddit's astroturf is getting more pathetic every day.

Maybe, maybe not. But in my view the position I outlines is both morally consistent and readily defensible. I don't think it's reasonable to try to defend both and I'd rather not tar and feather another guy in another game of "guilt by association".

dumbass, I never said I was an oldfag. all I said was I wasn't from reddit.
keep on stroking yourself with "leftypol agrees with me, all these complainers are from twitter and reddit and tumblr! now to rub one out to the disney channel" bullshit

Indeed, nothing empties a venue as quickly as a sign saying "those who use child prostitutes not welcome". I for one like having my dick sucked by a child prostitute while I'm reading up on leftist theory, her mother didn't seem to happy about it but she's an illiterate Cambodian peasant so what the heck does she know about anti-capitalist theory and action. This is the kind of stuff that is making me give up on the left, if these moralists don't cut their crap I'm going to look for some place else to be a pedophile and you will all be here missing me. Last warning.

Without god such behavior is only to be expected

Congratulations, you are now the new target of the SJWs' latest crusade.

Then how the hell did you get here? We need to know so we can tell them to stop sending you people. Normalfags fucking ruin everything. We should have socialism just for free thinkers, not sheep. Fuck you normie shitters. You deserve Porky.

Nobody here is defending sexual slave labor or coercion. A considerable number of people here are defending sexual freedom, though, which is obviously deeply triggering and excellent to the people who want to make the situation with Mark Ames and Matt Taibbi all about the girls' age.

you're not a free thinker, just a childfucker

Indeed

Just so you know, the vast majority of the world thinks you're retarded. There are a lot of socialists here from countries that don't believe your bullshit. How do you intend to enforce it on them? At some point it becomes a choice between catering to the spooked idiocy of American socialists or catering to literally the entire rest of the world. You can guess what most people will do.

Did I imply you were? You're only defending the free market of 15 year old goods and services, just business, nothing moral. Why does one need morality different from market-ideology anyway, what does it buy us?

Did Taibbi take part or was it just Ames?

What really pisses me off about this story is they claim to be Socialists, then fucking go rape and exploit women suffering from chicago capitalism raping the former center of the Socialist world.

These girls, lived under Socialism, then come 1991 and people like Ames, who then fucking from overseas, and raped poor socialists who had everything ripped away from them.

Couple of things. First, the free market and socialism are entirely compatible, because socialism is a mode of production and the free market is a mode of exchange. Congratulations on revealing your Reddit-tier lack of knowledge of socialist theory while simultaneously endorsing repressive, bigoted sex laws reminiscent of soccer moms trying to ban violent videogames because they're supposedly harmful according to some non-reproducible trash study made by a politically-motivated retard. Second, your conception of morality is based entirely on your feels and what you've been told to believe. Objective, science-based morality both exists and permits sex between adults and 15-year-olds.

inb4 muh STEMlords. Yes, I'm in STEM and I'm smarter than you and thus more qualified to decide what's right and wrong than you are. Sit down and shut up, feminazi.

back to Holla Forums

and how am I supposed to "enforce" anything on anyone dumbass? am I the ruler of the world?
go on now, maybe there's a lazytown rerun on tv you can jack off to

Good praxis.

great artist, too bad he's a lolberg

It sounds like if this was true, their book was supposed to be "gonzo journalism" like hunter s thompson, which seems to match the way they wrote it.

And don't mistake that for an excuse, that makes it even stupider. They would have just been LARPing as fucking monsters because they were literary fanboys.

Back to Reddit.

We won't be sure unless someone here can grab a copy. I'm almost sure there's no digital copy.

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Do you think a 15-year-old is old enough to be held accountable for murder? Obviously yes. So why can't they be held accountable for their own body if they can be held accountable for someone else's? Wait, why am I even wasting my time explaining anything to you? You're just high on your own self-righteousness and you won't listen to reason. When the fuck did policing people's bedrooms become the progressive thing to do? Why the fuck are you even here?

No.

Is this a joke? Dumbass, what you call "policing people's bedrooms" someone else calls protection from abuse.

so is there any actual proof or just hearsay?

Autobiographical accounts. For the record, it was all Ames. Taibbi did nothing wrong.

so no real proof

I can't tell if you're joking or not

If they're capable of passing sex ed they're capable of consenting to sex. The average 15-year-old is capable of passing sex ed. Sex doesn't magically become exploitation just because of an age difference, otherwise having it between an 18-year-old and a 50-year-old would also be wrong.

Where's your proof of any of this supposed abuse? Where's your proof that this isn't just more SJW fake rape hysteria bullshit where people get accused of perpetrating abuse with no real evidence?

You should be asking this about the age of consent hysteria as a whole.

I can write an autobiography right now and include a section where Ames comes to my house and molests me in my sleep, but without any evidence of it, it wouldn't mean anything

That's not what "autobiographical" means, and honestly being retarded enough to include a fake autobiographical account that implicates you in something you didn't do might be an even better reason to disassociate from than actually having done it. We don't need people that fucking dumb

You do understand this is the same thing actual pedophiles say? "They're enjoying themselves". 15 year olds are too young to fuck 30 year olds. Other teenagers, OK, it's gonna happen, fuck it.

And if you're expecting me to give you a 100% rational reason with graphs and studies, I don't have it. I find it disgusting and most people do too.

The allegation is that they raped people. Assuming the book is taken at face value and i dont think it should be they coerced women into sex. It was consensual. Its scummy, but its not a crime.

You are just clutching at straws now. We agree it was scummy. We disagree that they should be condemned and purged. It was a long time ago. Im sure they wouldnt do so today.

None of this would surprise me, it doesn't take much research to find that Taibbi is/was a closet woman hater/anti-feminist. But this seems like a witchhunt without much evidence.

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Mehh..

The question of abuse wasn't about ames and the book but generally about fucking q5 year olds.

lmao okay then

Yes they are, and you have no right to stop it.

Well that's just, like, your opinion, man.

Then get the fuck out.

Burgerstan isn't most people. You're the fucking laughingstock of the world.

I'm not American. But keep thinking it's all just crazy burgers.

Americans always say this. They constantly try to astroturf and pretend that other countries share their spooks. The fact is that most of them don't. I've seen Americans go as far as to lie about the on-the-books laws in other countries to do this.

What's your malfunction? If your boss came up to you asking to fuck you in the ass, I doubt you'd see it as funny irregardless of whether you know he's joking.

I'm always mindblown at how lame this fucking subreddit is and how much their attitude does not seem like they belong to a Chapo board lol.

I really like Chapo, but most of their fans are so shitty.

The "irony left" is already freaking out about this.

Also, speaking for myself, I wouldn't give a shit. There's nothing I appreciate more than people being honest about their sexual habits and the full circle into we made into pretending none of us has filthy thoughts or habits at the heat of the moment is annoying af.

And I'm also assuming that 15 is or was above the age of consent in Russia in this dude has the balls to publish this

STOP NOT HATING WHAT I HATE
STOP ASKING FOR PROOF THAT WHAT I HATE IS BAD

t. the "progressive left"

I recognise the posting style of the pro hebephile/pedophile poster in this thread from threads we've had in the past that have devolved into arguments about whether or not its okay for adults to sleep with children. Defending this is a new low for him considering it was a porky pressuring an underage prole into having sex with him in 1990s Russia.

I think you'd look better with an icepick in your head.

Oh yeah, completely forgot an important part.

So then, you probably wonder what made liberals go from limpwristed enablers of imperialism to sociopathic moralist blowhards that enable imperialism. Well I just so happen to know the main factor, and it boils down to two words: Weird Twitter.

I'm not joking. They have been fagging up the internet for nearly a decade now, and from their FYAD roots they brought their taste for doxing, IRL harassment and other such behavior. You see, back in that SA board, they did shitty things like those for comedy, or so the theory goes. Then they move on to Twitter and suddenly they grow a conscience and sell themselves as liberal bien-pensants, sort of regretful trolls. But of course it's a crock of shit, and they keep doxing and harassing people, but now it's okay because they're doing it against the right people.

Except that people with an anti-social streak don't have a very good notion of "rightness". Thus started the grand old tradition of witch hunts, which would become the defining action of the social justice movement on the internet. Those FYAD early adopters of Twitter largely fit the profile of bobos, so their moral map was guided by the idpol imbecility that has since become rampant. Cue a million cases of those hunts, often towards people who made an off-color joke or "misgendered" someone or erasing blackness/fatness/whateverness or a million other thinly veiled excuses to form a self-righteous mob.

Other than witch hunts, SJWs are defined by a nearly allergic aversion to dialectics, which largely stems from Weird Twitter's ceaseless snark and irony. People familiar with goons easily notice how they use the exact same tactic when unable to argue: throw nonsensical "humor" around to mock the other party.

One more thing Weird Twitter imprinted on SJWs is gregariousness. From their FYAD days, they circlejerked endlessly, helping each other come hell or other water, unless one of their sinned against the hivemind, in which case they were ostracized and, of course, harassed. Sounds familiar?

Lastly, Weird twitter had, from the start, a foot in the door of journalism and media. A couple of the early settlers already had jobs in those areas, and more of them kept joining as time went on.

A very important detail to note here is the aforementioned gregariousness, which also reached into cronyism. I recall seeing one SJW journalist, whom I know for a fact was hiding her close friendship to the subject of a few very deferential pieces, bemoaning the fact that used to be able to find jobs and even a husband on Twitter, but it was now toxic. The social network unfortunately seems to have a attraced a lot of media people and journalists over the years, and they gelled perfectly with Weird Twitter and the proto-SJWs. Thus modern media and journalism were stuffed full of proto-SJWs along the years, to the point where now we have this current mess; a media so morally bankrupt that they can't damage Trump's – fucking Trump's – image even when smearing him 24/7. For fuck's sake, we just had the fucking CNN doubling down over their insane blackmail of a random bastard who dared upload a gif, and almost all the rest of mainstream media and the Twiteratti defending them. The main people involved most likely aren't SJWs, but socjus is unfortunately their current zeitgeist. See also how no media outlet will fucking shut up about idpol.

So then, add these symptoms and you have the socjus mindset that has infested so much of American and British media and internet. Perhaps another aspect of the FYAD heritage of Weird Twitter, and consequently of socjus, is that they're utterly incapable of self-criticism. That anti-social streak keeps them from admitting errors or being defeated in an argument. When was the last time you saw a mainstream journalist admitting to a mistake without being forced into it? Yeah. They will always double down. Which is why they're still blaming everyone but themselves and fellow liberals as the cause for Republican victory last November.

Lastly, a few preemptive statements before anyone tries to strawman me. No, I'm not saying Weird Twitter conspired to do this. They just were their horrible selves, and it all spun from there because Twitter is just a terrible platform that hinders debate and promotes circlejerks, which played exactly to their strengths. No, I'm not saying all of Weird Twitter are like this. Some of them just tell jokes, obviously. I refer to a core of early adopters, largely from FYAD, who imparted not only their deplorable behavior, but also their sense of humor, because they came to dominate the show. No, I'm not saying that these Weird Twitter early settlers were a horde, or that all, or even most, journos and media people are all SJWs. What I am saying is that socjus creeps into people even if they're not "activist" about it. Akin to the original meaning of memes, I suppose. A small tightly-knit core of FYAD goons, with an admittedly amusing sense of humor, little "competition" for audience, with about 9 years to run free in the UIX disaster that is Twitter can, and did, cause immense damage.

I now fully expect some people here who idolize certain Twitter personalities to REEEEE at this, but them's the breaks. It's not like I enjoyed seeing the American """left""" be taken over by pod people. Your precious Virgil Texas, for example, is one of the reasons America is in its current mess, and he did it by wasting years on Twitter and penning a handful of articles in mainstream media. Funny how the internet can amplify one's shitposts if only you make them in the right place at the right time, to the point they can have a very real effect on the world.

tl;dr: weird twitter was the biggest force in creating socjus regardless of how much you love your muh twitter e-celeb

wew

There's something so sad yet so amusing about this niche genre of paranoid and inarticulate minds trying to uncode and decipher the hidden impulses behind shit whose influence they grossly overesimate just because it triggers them personally.

really makes you think

You wouldn't believe how many Weird Twitter e-celebs are former FYAD goons.

Honestly, what you said applies just as well to the people I described. Regardless, there's nothing hidden about it. I don't pretend to be privvy to some insider knowledge that changes everything. All you need is Google, and all I did was connect bits of information.

For example, there's a liberal pundit that writes for The Guardian and Rolling Stone, which I saw showing up on prime time TV, on MSNBC no less. There he was, playing the part he was paid to do, clutching pearls about those evil Republicans, and even managed to slip a FYAD meme on camera. His written columns are the same crap.

You know where that professional pearl-clutcher was 10 years ago? He wasted his days away bullying idiots, cracking niggerdeath jokes and writing about wrestling, and not the Greco-Roman kind. Eventually his wife shouted at him and he was laughed out of his board, to resurface later on FYAD. From there he was hired by Gawker, then dropped (lel) but eventually got picked up by all these mainstream-as-fuck outlets, and all he had to his name his Gawker stuff and a fucking blog, which was pretty much the same crap. He's a good writer, but not that good. No way he got so many high-tier gigs on merit. Then you look at who he hobknobs with all day long on the internet and there's the explanation.

Don't say I didn't warn you. These internet petty-sociopaths are literally writing your headlines.

You're autistic and should seek help.

"Oh, little old Trotskyist me! How evil the world is with these 'hebephiles' and bad people! I just hope my little revolution will be moral!" Trotskyism really has become a total joke.

This conversation has mostly proceeded along the lines of moral disgust. At that level, you're about as "radical" as a Baptist preacher inveighing against the wickedness of fornication while accusing those "defending" it to be fornicators themselves.

Attacking "bad people" out of mere moral disgust isn't Marxist. It's a thoughtless recapitulation of ideology, namely the current moral panic over pedophilia and morally "bad" sex. And it isn't that a left critique doesn't exist in some form of some of the behaviors shown, but few people have made any attempt to justify their views and relied on how disgusted they personally feel and the commensurate overreaction resulting from that disgust. The showing in this thread has been largely pathetic.

I can believe it. What gets me are all the retards here that ape FYAD without even realizing it.

hahahahaha
nigga just become an ancap, they're gonna embrace you like a long lost brother

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Fuck outta here, you unreasoning faggot.

these words gave me aids

no u

Oh hey, and just a few days after I post The Protocols of the Meetings of the Learned Elders of Socjus I get an absolutely perfect example to show you.

Backstory: Heat Street was some cheap reactionary site that recently went belly-up, and the Twitteratti were over the moon about it. One of the celebrations was a bragging article on an even cheaper liberal rag called The Outline. Now read the pics.

Pathetic, isn't it? Grownups behaving like kids. Well it gets much worse. Alex Nichols is the article's author, and Leah Finnegan is an editor. The mouthbreathers pictured acted like that simply because they didn't want to correct a small error on their own article, and they didn't want to take the half minute it would take to do it because they hate the person they wrote about. This is what passes for professionalism in modern media. Like I said, petty-sociopaths are literally writing your headlines.

Notice how these nitwits start talking about when they simply can't argue their patently ridiculous reason not to edit the article. It's textbook goon behavior, just like I said above: throw nonsensical "humor" around to mock the other party. And speaking of goons, look who makes a cameo but our much-posted-about friend, Virgil Texas! Just dropping that BTFO like it's nothing, in order to defend his cliquebuddies' unprofessional behavior, and off he goes into the sunset. What a poster!

Oh, and you will never guess how Nichols' and Finnegan's Twitters are like. Virtue-signalling and pretending to be actual leftists by mocking Democrats. Who would have thought?

And this little fracas even has an epilogue. Not long after Heat Street closed down, Cheong, the guy singled out in The Outline's article, was the target of one of the socjus witch hunts I mentioned. It's interesting to note that those champions of the proletariat mocked him by being very classist, in a suitably childish "lol what are you, poor?" way. Of course, a SJW attack wouldn't be complete without doxing, which Twitter didn't see as a reason to ban the culprit who flaunted it about. Nichols even retweets the doxer.

tl;dr: I was right about literally everything regarding SJWs, this example here showcases every damn thing I outlined before, and Weird Twitter is the main culprit behind socjus

The Exile used to run a feature call Russian Whorer stories about one of the authors many visitings of Russian prostitutes. They got a lot of criticism of that from their readers. Who was it? Was it Ames?

These aren't professionals, by your own assessment even. They're gamergaters, from both sides, perpetually locked in this fractal cultural war.

That subreddit confuses me too. Is this who many of their listeners and patrons really are? They're so…basic. Not that it's bad, but thess guys are very close to the kind they mock.

He just means that Virgil is the FYAD guy.

Things were different in the Exile days.

Well they're professionals in the sense they're employed as journalists, which shows how low the bar is. Also, GG was only a battle from the perspective of SJWs, and a very brief battle from the perspective of Weird Twitter. The culture war keeps on going. The bastards will probably shit up the American left for a long time.

Chapo are literally Weird Twitter goon pseudo-ironically-non-SJW hipster eCeleb faggots. That's more layers of cancer than radioactive lasagna.

reddit.com/r/ChapoTrapHouse/comments/6nmmjn/matt_taibbi_mark_ames_and_how_the_chapo_guys/

Its happening again. I wonder if they're just getting baited by /r/neolib at this point

I heard that a lot of people here are on /r/CTH but this new thread has even less resistance to the bullshit than the others.