Thoughts on the g20 riots?

All my liberal friends on fagbook and twitter are now whining about anarkies being equally ebil as fash (Eastern Europe here, mind you), because they've torched a couple of cars.

ANTIFA/ANARCHISTS BTFO

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This is the story of how the antifa has destroyed the left. It's so perfect that it's almost as if it was done on purpose.

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kill the politicians plz

Back to your cuck shed, Holla Forums.

Not Holla Forums. These are actual problems Western Europe has.

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These aren't healthy thoughts, Holla Forums. We think the oppression olympics are silly too, you don't have to ""redpill"" us.

Wow yeah, I disagree with attacking the working class and suddenly all these books I've read I don't agree with anymore.

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This is just retarded.
States and businesses imported truckloads of migrants for decades to drive down wages. The enormous Turkish populations in Germany are due to demand for low-wage workers for example. It is capitalism which perpetuates large scale migration.

Hi Holla Forums.

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You've never been to Europe, haven't you ? I can smell the grease from here.

On March 12th the United Nations along with the Congolese government confirmed that six people including an American aid worker, Michael Sharp and his Swedish counter-part, Zahida Katalan were kidnapped in the Kasai Central province of the Congo where bloody skirmishes within the region graduated to near genocidal levels in February. Grim reports this morning are indicating that three bodies were found and among the dead were two white bodies. Unconfirmed initial reporting identified them as the Michael Sharp and Zahida Katalan. This was the first time U.N. aid workers had been kidnapped in the Congo.

Renewed bloody conflict broke out between the Kamuina Nsapu militia and DRC troops in the Kasai Central province in early February, prompting the United Nations Mission in the Democratic Republic of the Congo (MONUSCO), to express concerns over the violence in the Kasai Central region and sent in U.N. aid workers to mitigate a peaceful resolution. Both sides of the conflict have blamed the other for atrocities, with murky accusations by the Congolese government of gruesome attacks against DRC troops and innocent civilians along with kidnapping children for ‘child soldiers’ perpetrated by the militia. As well as other unconfirmed reporting by the militia and citizens within the region that DRC troops decimated an entire village killing 101 people, including women and children. Because of these reports, MONUSCO sent Michael Sharp and his U.N. aid worker team into the Kasai to link up with the Kamuina Nsapu militia to begin peace talks.

Michael Sharp, prior to joining the United Nations, worked for three years with the Mennonite Central Committee in Central Africa. During his time in Rwanda, Michael became very astute in tracking down warring militias unarmed and without any security and successfully negotiating with the militias in giving up their child soldiers and convincing these militias to seek peaceful resolutions to their conflicts. “Part of what M.J.[Michael] has done [in the Congo] is establish relationships with militia leaders,” John Sharp, Michael’s father said in an interview with The Wichita Eagle earlier this month. “Apparently, he had some success in persuading some to give up child soldiers.” And that is possibly what Michael, Zahida, and his six person team of interpreter Betu Tshintela, driver Isaac Kabuayi and two other unidentified drivers were planning to do and set out on motorcycles and headed into the Kasai Central province to more than likely find the Kamuina Nsapu militia and save the child soldiers this militia uses and seek a peaceful resolution, and then Michael and his team disappeared.

And sadly early this morning the bodies of Michael Sharp and Zahida Katalan were found in a shallow grave. Michael’s father, John Sharp posted on his Facebook account late March 27th that said, “We have been informed that two Caucasian bodies have been found in shallow graves in the search area, one male and one female,” Mr. Sharp continued “Since no other Caucasians have been reported missing in that region, there is a high probability that these are the bodies of MJ and Zaida.” As of now no official confirmation from the United Nations, the Congolese government, or the Kamuina Nsapu militia itself has been heard or given at the time of publication.

Congo is now Western Europe

Jesus christ, I'm not a fucking Holla Forums user. Attacking regular peoples cars and ruining them financially just means more people will be against us in the future because to them we're just people who attack the working class.

Nobody said otherwise.

What a pathetic sob story.
You have no clue what live in Europe is actually like you fucking retard

at least learn how to false flag

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jfc. No. I'm not pro-boarders. In anarchist communties, people can and do democratically decide to make certain individuals leave or allow ones in. Communes in montana do this. Imagine this. You live in small commune. You and your comrades are pretty socially progressive, mostly agnostic/atheist, and obviously left libertarian leaning politically.
Now imagine there are a great deal or people who want to come into the commune. You ask them about themselves. It turns out they are by and large, against all your social progressive ideals, very religious and against people being agnostic or atheist, and are far right authoritarian politically. Now ask yourself, are they comrades?

So far I'm extremely impressed by the protesters, police have been completely overrun. Hopefully this will lead to lasting damage to global capitals institutions. Also fuck everyone who doesn't support this

Fucking awesome but I need to wat some pigs get roasted.

You'll have more fun LARPing if you join a reenactment society.
All this'll lead to normies seeing anyone calling themselves left as a car torching thug.

Watch*

The capitalist state must be attacked

antifa burning down random cars and breaking shit. Really makes you think.

spotted the illiterate burger

BUT WON'T SOMEONE THINK OF THE PRIVATE PROPERTY?

From the pics online it's mostly cheap Peugeot getting torched.

so what does burning and smashing shit actually do apart from getting proles to hate us

tbh I hate cars and people who drive them and I don't care if they are proles or what they deserve it 100% fuck the motorist scum

Soros bucks, duh

The city is full of cops and people are torching cars in daytime.

Doesn't answer the question.

You gotta break the conditioning.

theanarchistlibrary.org/library/david-graeber-the-shock-of-victory

This is what smashing these meetings accomplish. Read it and apologize libshits, tl:dr it's extremely efficient

It's really sad to watch a leftist board come up with such assblasted responces like these:

What damage is this doing to global capitalism exactly?

Read this text, the part called "II: The Global Justice Movement" if you want to know:

kikes playing both sides and the average lefty too stupid to see it

That's not how a communist movement works.

wtf I hate Jews now

Did this happen? Did they stop the meeting? Were they unable to coordinate because some cars got burned?

So you want to lower living standards in the west so they wont come here? I agree with you guys on war and stuff but I just don't want to live near Muslims.

crimethinc.com/2014/12/10/why-break-windows

this is the height of Holla Forums thought: I don't understand why the black bloc hates globalization so it must be the jews playing both sides

yeah, I'm sure all the refugees welcome open borders people inside are really disappointed with the people outside who have identical beliefs :^)
hurrr as a globalist I'm really angry with these globalists who in Europe specifically often allow our activities and fund them

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Anarkiddie open borders wouldn't be globalism. If there aren't global markets it isn't globalism.
You are right that anarkiddies demanding open borders within capitalism is self defeating though.

keep telling yourself that

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keep telling yourself that

your guy is in there sucking their cocks, never forget it

I think I will. Keep telling yourself gassing the Jews will fix all of society's ills.

Proofs.
And proofs that Soros doesn't just fund whatever gets him access to sweet new markets.

How is not having high hopes in antifa being assblasted?

It's not just some cars geting burned. What happened is those cases is that the state lost control over public order and all attention was focussed upon these conferences and the organizations involved. It generalized the knowledge of and opposition to the institutions like the IMF and the world bank. This builds up political pressure against these institutions. Besides that these actions also help building transnational networks, alliances, organizes new people and trains people in organizing and taking action.

Has the protest stopped g20?
Only if the population supported the protest. Smashing people's cars ensures that the population does not support the protest.

yeah 100,000 people in the streets is meaningless

No large scale immigration would be necessary if the productive capacities would be developed all over the world. This is not logical under capitalism, and is therefore frequently hold back in the interest of profits. It will be in the interest of all to develop productive forces under socialism.

It is worse than nothing if the general population hate them for it.

It probably has seeing how the police have been overrun and are calling in backup. You know earlier counter-globalisation riots actually managed to either halt or completely stop meetings, however porky media didn't report this because it would be extremely bad press and fuel further protests

Everybody in Germany hates them and by burning people's cars or a local bakery you ensure that the people won't vote anything remotely left in November.

Good prole, keep on protesting on Welcome To Hell™

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Porky media is going to cover whatever makes the protesters look bad. If they dropped the open borders thing and had banners appealing to the 'this is driving your wages down' sentiment, they might do some good.

And even if it didn't the overall goal is achieved, it's not simply one event your actually trying to stop. It's a long term struggle.

The population you want to reach does, especially if they participate, which they usually do. Most people actually have bigger concerns that outweigh broken windows and a burned car, even if it actually doesn't help and find it distasteful. And those who don't wouldn't even interested (in anything anti-capitalist) to begin with, if you tried to accommodate their bourgeois sentimentalizes.

The general sentimentality in North western/central Europe is highly reactionary but that's not even the fault of the Autonome movements of Antifa networks, but the fault of the material conditions and the mass media. If anything they have been the only thing keeping it back even when it was in the long run a losing battle.

And the media shows the car, so instead of thinking about whatever sympathy they have with points the anti-globalisation protesters are making, they think about their stuff getting smashed by masked thugs.

If you repeat it enough times maybe it will become true.

And those people go back to their lives, not going to stop you, not going to fight you, but still knowing about the G20 and what it represents. Maybe at some point they'll get involved in something political depending on where they live if there is anything organized, maybe they'll raise this point again in the future. But at the end of the day they were not the target of interest. Because any strategy oriented to getting a good media image above all other considerations is a losing strategy for anything but the purest liberal politics. Even if the thing that's screwing that up is burning cars.

This is not the USA (yet) where everyone is constantly outraged at everything that happens. People will either don't care or wonder what do they feel so strongly about that they were willing to risk serious jail time.

antifa existed before soros though? who was it funded by before soros?

Seriously, I can't image going back to my life and still having tolerance about radical leftists after witnessing my car burning. Simple people don't work like that, they won't ever acknowledge it's

Well I hope we will receive our checks soon, because the people at our camp haven't bought sawdust for the toilets yet and those Club Mate toppled with vodka are getting expensive.

no dead world leaders yet

meh

We are not talking about the person who lost their car because a black bloc set it on fire. We are talking about the media representation of a burning car and what effect that has on people. I imagine the person's who car was burned is quite pissed. But then x person is too abstract to say anything about where the implications matter, if its some yuppie's car is not actually bad and you don't need that person on your side to begin with (assuming they would even be).

Besides that it depends heavily on the particular position of the person in question.
Speaking from experience and not necessary talking about the smashie stuff. Reactions to anything can vary greatly, most people who care about property damage or any sort of general consequences or cost to total profits are also some yuppie peeps with some vague managerial job, a condo with a mortgage (which they want to sell at some point). They'll be generally hostile to everything you do even if it's just a 'peaceful' demonstration or if its a strike. Those aren't the people that are going side with you or have any revolutionary potential of their own. It's a waste of time focus on you efforts on getting them on your side.

why is it so hard to get actual weapons on these protests? blow up the pigs

Most people who care about property damage work their fucking backs off just to obtain this property to get on with their fucking lives, and burning it to the ground is not in the Top 50 of most effective ways to increase their class conscience.

Ordinary people have property, deal with it. Burn the fucking pigs, burn actual porky,

The idea is not to kill or (seriously) harm anyone. Both sides know they can't do that, it's a bit like a game

I don't know where you are from but in most European cities most people don't own any significant property or have any general stake in anyone else's property unless they're at least petty bourgeoisie. We are not trying to increase those people's class consciousness.

Well you see those 'ordinary people' don't want you burning the porkies to begin with. That would harm their property values and their carrier chances. They want you to stop doing anything except working, paying your taxes and voting for center-right liberal parties that keep inflation low, property values high and kick-out the actual working class from their homes.

Since when having such basic commodity as a car in the first world is considered bourg, you deluded prick?

then what will the protests accomplish if they don't spill the pig and bourg blood?
what would the frenchies accomplish in 89 if they'd just kick over and lit some carriages

but cars are insured leftyanon

and if it's a piece of shit car, such as mine, then i just get a new one for 100 €

If some twiggy ass uni student in all black burned my halfway decent car that I spent 3 or 4 years working my ass off for I'd probably go full fashy

I'm starting to doubt this will go over well for the German left in the long term

You know jack shit about western europe (which isn't a country there are different realities)

It doesn't matter, because ordinary people invest sentimental value in stuff. A car is not a house, but imagine your house being burned to the ground and some anarkiddie LARPer justifying it like this:

every time

Wait so why should I sympathize with you?

We're talking about burning regular cars, and this pathetic larper is desperately trying to convince me that even owning a fucking car makes you bourg and justifies all the violence.

Honestly all the empty bitching about these riots is more annoying than getting my car burned

I would rather have my car destroyed than listen to you cry about it more

well the actual proles in bangladesh, india, thailand, colombia, ecuador etc. actually don't own cars

Can you even read?

where do i apply for the soros bucks mr. pol?

but even most of the poorest proles own cars
and the debate was about muh cars

A car is not a significant property, in the sense that you would have stake in everybody else's property and how accumulation of surplus value affects that. But that is exactly what makes 'muh properteh' such a big deal for these people.

How does this relate to burning random cars?

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Let's rephrase your dumb arguments:

I bet you're even posting here with your balaclava on

They're not burning random cars fam they're burning fucking sport cars. Most proles don't own that shit unless they're some kind of enthusiast. And they're doing it specifically because the city is fucking filled with bourgies right now

No, people who complain about somebody else's car getting burned on tv either will go on with their lives or are porky yuppies who have a stake in "muh properteh" and are not going to be on your side even if the car didn't get burned.

The person's whose car has been burned is no doubt pissed of regardless of their class position.

The videos say otherwise, no?

This is a fucking weird looking sports car.

hell yes comrades fuck the kulaks.

If someone burns my neighbor's car I'm going to think they're a dick even if their mental gymnastics allow them to think they're disrupting global capitalism by doing so.

m8, just watch the videos

Martin Luther King would be ashamed.

Nah, in all seriousness go wild, comrades. Starting G20 riots has been a proud tradition for as long as I can remember.

This all seems like a rather pointless exercise. The left cheers Nazi punches and burning cars because there's little else we can spin as remotely close to revolutionary in the West.

Where's the part where antifa expropriates private property and land in order to provide free housing, food, and opportunities to produce goods for use for the working people of Germany

You know, something that would directly challenge the capitalist order without being so easily spun by the mainstream as "pro-immigrant thugs committing crimes"

they do this every day

heard of squats? where you get free shelter&food if in need

Antifa is just a defense network set up when all of that was attacked by Nazi gangs. But the German movement seems to be on a protracted defensive war ever since reunification.

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Is it my fault or their fault? Good luck explaining to the proles why you burned their car for greater cause and how exactly your random violence is better or different from fash violence.

So, everybody I talked to, every comment section I looked at, and every personal contact I know pretty much hates the left now because some retards seriously argue that destroying a small shop that struggles to get by due to insanely high rents, or flaring up cars of average working class people is a revolutionary act and porky can play both sides.

t. Spooked burger
storymaps.esri.com/stories/terrorist-attacks/?year=2017

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Yeah no what about go fuck yourself? I love watches, I have a watch collection that is worth more than a ferrari, I should get jumped ? Is this what you are saying?,

It won't, but is a good first step. Jews are major promoters of fun (both tv and printing press, even heavily moderating many popular websites), of open borders (except Israel), and funding for antifa movements.
Once jews are gone, the degenerate behaviour that has been polluting our countries will cease to exist, in given time, similarly as in physics and nature, where everything returns to equilibrium after a force applied is removed.

People are a natural disaster. If you don't invest money in a natural disaster, it will eventually bite you on the ass you didn't.

Humans are hardly responsible when they're furious and fed up. Yelling at the mob won't stop the mob.

Wtf I love the Jews now

american genocide when lads?

Why is Holla Forums often times a haven for degenerate behavior if its against the people enforcing degenerate behavior, and also how do you end up this naive

Life is short. Don't waste it on being an obnoxious prick to everyone who chooses to enjoy this laughably short time one gets on this fucking planet.

We must defend private property from smashie agression. #AllWindowsMatter

Makes me proud to call myself an anarchist. Seeing the liberal faggotry and defence of peace+private property ITT is beyond reprehensible

yeah, you talked to thousands of people and they are neolibs because of a few broken windows lmao

gtfo faggot

wtf, is this leftypol or
reddit

fucking libtard fags everywhere

lol, dude, totally, like, smash the system!!! rage against the machine, dude!!! let's smash some shit fam

yeah dude, lets protect private property and don't hit the poor policeman, he's just protecting us

we need a docile society, don't rebel, your actions might damage some property

People aren't doing this to be edgy, they're doing it because they're furious and unheard by representatives that are supposed to speak on their behalf. If you don't know what people are like when they have the chance to let loose, don't try to wrap your mind around it.

I posted earlier that this is as close as somewhere like Germany is going to get to a natural disaster like an earthquake or a firestorm or a tornado. It's best you just save up money for when it happens and call it a day.

oh shit, thanks reddit, I will go back home and word hard for porky for 40 years to buy me a merzedes, I sure hope some evil punks don't ever smash it

I'm sure burning random cars will legitimise their beliefs

afp.com/en/news/23/melania-trump-stuck-residence-over-g20-demos

If nothing else we can say that the protesters kept the first lady locked in a hotel

but please don't anger porky, he will not keep me for all these years, maybe I never get a merzedes if you are too loud out on the streets

Epic samefag

yes, it's not like I wanna conceal it

kill yourself you worthless pile of trash.

but please, don't try to hurt porky, because I worked for 25 years to buy my Mondeo

no, but I will kill liberal trash such as yourself, you are the true cancer

for not wanting my shit destroyed

It doesn't matter to them

Fucking retarded smashies doing retarded smashy shit.

oh no, I'm a UNI graduate who makes a wealthy living, and I have a high end apartment in Hamburg and my Mercedes is parked in the street.
I'll show porky though.

now off yourself fucking caviar lefty

fuck off conservitard

Please explain. I don't personally support any type of degenëracy

I understand your point, but it is highly egotistical to only think of life about having "fun" while polluting your own county and völk. It should be, at the very least, discouraged. You should always think for your people and comrades.

champagne socialism ITT

now continue being upset about some smashed cars and windows

and stop trying to pretend your a prole

Fuck off faggot.

You sir, are retarded. Read a fucking book

One thing I have learned so far from this thread is that you're a filthy yuppie bourg if you happen to own a car.

This but unironically

they went through gentrified areas and burned luxury cars. i can see how liberals might be scared of this though, maybe their daddies SUV might get torched

yeah you should

There is literal evidence of the opposite in this fucking thread.

Secondly, Altona is not a gentrified area.

At best you're part of the labour aristocracy

wow, as if you could just choose whichever flag you want from a list, and Holla Forums is not reading your mind to objectively match the flag to your real identity

any day now

shit nigger, a grainy png, such epic proofs. this makes me renounce violence that might actually deal damage to capital and go to the poll booth like a good prole

This is actually good, cars are fucking useless commodities, the only reason proles get sad about this is because muh savings

Why?

Only if you live in an area that has a decent network of public communication. Or you're a retarded anprim mememeister.

On a utilitarian level it's immoral to hoard wealth while absolute poverty still exists

Okay if you think that then put your money into leftist organisations or similar or spend it on the local poor.

Studies show that more money after a middle class level of income (about 50th percentile) doesn't make you any happier.

because youre a rich cunt and a tankie

At least fucking quote directly, im not an anprim but well funded good public transport is superior to cars, cars shouldn't exist anymore

You assume that a German cunt's life isn't easy as fuck, getting their car torched wouldn't be a big deal, they can always buy a newer one with their massive disposable income.

America go.

Oh shit nigger, I didn't notice I didn't give your post a proper (you) before I hit reply. I agree that cars are superfluous if the public transport is well developed, and that personally owned cars can be detrimental to the development of public transport (i.e. I've spent so much money on a car, I'm not going to ride a bus), but on the other hand, I can't really blame the proverbial Joe living in bumfuck nowhere driving to a city to help his employer make profit.

It's immoral to do anything while absolute poverty still exists

Forgot my shitposting name

WE''LL SHOW THOSE NAZIS

Well you got a point too

I mean, it's not hard to show you. One of you just got stabbed in a protest in LA because you were dumb enough to march right the fuck onto Armenian turf and half the time you make up antifa events just to protest it

It's not hard to show you.

Somebody could just fake an antifa event like they usually do and say this time "It's on XYZ Street go get em!" and send you right the fuck into gang territory like that and have you shot

Lucky it was only one of you who got stabbed

All these fucking Americans thinking your privately cars are as important in Europe as they are there. Sure they are, but the dominance of them on culture isn't the same because we have fucking public transport that works. Private transport is honestly an infestation, I don't know how you live with it.

No molotovs.

You need it in a rural area. In a city mass transit makes much more sense.

Public transit makes sense anywhere. You just need to effectively manage it. America cannot effectively manage anything for the public well being, so on that you're correct.

Liberals are universally worthless supporters anyway. They´re the useful idiots that will bend whichever way the wind the blowing.
They´ll whine and complain, but besides voting and paying taxes they´ll never amount to serious political support or opposition.
And once one side wins they´ll pretend they always supported it.

See any political crisis, civil war or uprising in the past two centuries.

Trains for rural areas and metros for urban areas

Honestly I've no idea how to get out of this self-reinforcing shit hole.
1) The labour and energy put into manufacturing cars is irreversibly gone. Their parts aren't very useful in bigger public transport vehicles. So even if you go full tankie and seize the cars from the populace, the best you could gain is some scrap metal. Maybe something could be done to further communal car-pooling.
2) If there's nothing done, people will continue to spend their money to be able to live in bumfuck nowheres, furthering the problem.
Maybe the solution is to stop giving a shit and then go full tankie.

In a logical sense yes, but it's just not realistic to expect everyone to devote 100% of their time to fighting global poverty. I don't think it's wrong for people to want to live a decent middle class existence where they get everything they need and some of the things they want, I think it is immoral to live in opulence.

Why does it feel like any anti-capitalist protests today have nothing in common with workplaces and labour struggles?

Champagne socialism

The flag and the comment truly enlightened me

Because somehow riots are new to you

Because you still have liberal spooks.

The G20 riots are about showing up the police and the world establishment, they're about trying to disrupt the meetings, and demonstrating the power of the organised left.

Are they going to end capitalism? No, but smashing some windows is not some great crime, it's worth it even if there is collateral damage to innocents (ie poor people) to make a spectacle and get in the news.

Friendly reminder that 90% of smashies is cointelpro.

Like the riots in France because of the new labour laws that lasted months? Fuck off disinfo agent.

Poland here, I've seen the "lmao only Murricans could think cars are indispensable" meme a number of times, but I'm not entirely convinced.

kill yourself lying faggot

This, if you are a muh violence is not necessary guy you need to read more

Edgelords are gonna flock to leftism thanks to this, this might actually play out well

unironic answer: because class struggle has taken the form of rioting again. it was the common form of struggle before striking and workplace struggle, and now that unions have lost all their power rioting has come back in fashion

Bhoy, this will sure open the proles' eyes.

They already have alt-right and fash to flock to. Any kind of leftist activism doesn't respond to their deep fears of being "cucked". Leftism of any kind doesn't provide an alternative to being a soft and tolerant beta, the idpol is too strong.

No u.

DON'T GIVE A FUCK

BRAP BRAP BRAP

Why are germans protesting for more black bulls? Don't they have enough?

Not everything is about your fetish.

They are literally protesting for open borders and "international solidarity" (whatever the fuck that actually EVEN means lmao) lmao

Why do you think you know what Germans want, burger

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Germans are sad defeated people "making up for their past crimes" is a common thread even among the /average/ ones, I can only imagine what motivates the average German antifa that goes to a thing like this

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What makes Americans not sad? Where are you from?

Could have spent those 40 years assisting the suicide of Capitalism.

The point is to introduce a blockade/interruption in he present order, not to address ourselves to a passive, liberal public. This is precisely the demarcation between revolutionary movements and those wishing to preserve the present state of affairs.

youtube.com/watch?v=HF7e2rgzsrU

More plz.

Yea very luxury cars indeed. Especially those twingos in front of retirement homes.

And then pay them with your taxes.
HELL YEAH!

lmao

I couldn't afford a plane ticket.

They need to riot harder to to make up for me tbh

I came by from Holla Forums to tell you guys this:

Riots like these are perfect fuel for the right wing to grow and for the left wing to lose its followers.

Shit like this is exactly what makes left wing people to switch sides to the right wing.

Thank you leftists.

Yeh lads no, Don't apply burder logic to Germany: the DIe Linke voters will hate this too.

if you say so

"we have bigger brains than you" insults incoming

No one the radical left is going to switch sides because of this, it's just liberals crying for muh property. Why should we care about them anyway?

FYI I used to be leftist and strictly antifascist pro-socialist myself.
Shit like this is exactly what made me switch sides. It reveals the hypocrisy of the far-left.

Noone even on the less radical left is going to switch sides because of this, it's just anarkiddies (i. e. black sheep) smashing random shit and expecting to be heard.

Who cares? There is the far-left and the far-left. I suppose some legitimate fash are also ashamed about the Kekistan pasty white basement dwellers.

I don't believe you, your definition of "leftist" is insanely ambiguous.

That's an understatement and a half, they're all so fucking weird.

Do you seriously believe the public will distinguish between those "black sheep" and the rest of the antifascists they march shoulder to shoulder with?
The protesters will be generalized.

Of course.You can count me in for that.
The difference however is that no one of the public mainstream cares about kekistan pasty white basement dwellers in public life because they don't run around destroying peoples property. Those left extremists on the other hand make major headlines all over Germany and all over the world for the past 2 days.

You don't have to.

fuck you, you "radical" larping idiot. congrats for being more delusional than Holla Forums. i vote linke btw.

This is preferable to muslims to you

Is this your first time hearing of a riot in Europe. The last seven years have been from the right, rioting. Congratulations for selectively caring

Any "leftist" that changes his ideology to far right is just an edgelord looking to fit in, just another useless phase, basically no conviction to what they believe in

German antifa is shit.

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Antifa is shit in general, these people don't understand what they're doing, i doubt they have ever read a book on politics ever

Die Linke are socdems anyway

How's that different from this board?

Uhm… Did I ever say that that effect I described doesn't count for other leftist and antifa riots? It counts for all those other riots just as well.

When did I claim to be "far right"? I wouldn't call myself far right at all. Then again I hate labeling myself.
I don't know where you are from, but a LOT of people turned from left wing to right wing in Germany and all Europe throughout the last 2-3 years. This has nothing to do with a "phase" but with a changing environment. Well, that and also in some cases people started seeing hypocritical characteristics of the antifa and far left. That combined made me slowly switch sides.

They burned a state deputy's car that is a member of 'The Left' party, haha.

You switch sides because the people of a certain movement are hypocrites? The fuck is wrong with you, just become a liberal already

Good job just leaving out the part where I mentioned environmental changes being a motivation. Especially as that was the major motivation.

You and the other people who "switched sides" are fucking cancer

What exactly changed?

And back to square one :^)

You fucking wot m8?

He had a crush on a girl and she fucked a black guy.

Theres no use for dumbasses that change opinions because of environmental changes

Demographic change. The governments extreme open-border policy.
Refugee crisis. Exactly what you already expected I guess.

And before you ask: If you live in an area filled with refugee camps like I do.. Yes. You will make tons of personal experiences with them.

are the people supporting the smashies on this board cointelpro or mere idiots?

i for one congratulate the german police to this successful operation. they managed to completely discredit any leftist protests against the g20.

voting does make a difference.

yes they die linke is socdem and i am infact socdem and communist myself. no that's not a contradiction.

wouldn't be surprised if you're actually a soros or bfv shill, by the way. what's happening in hamburg is EXACTLY what the bourgeois media wanted, i bet BILD, spiegel and the like are high on coke right now, cdu, fdp and afd fags too.

Seems like literally no one here has any idea about anarchist theory regarding riots and protests, its not about appealing to liberals you fucking trots. And I am not even an anarchist but you all are funhating retards.

In other news Schanzenviertel is under demonstrant control, Dudde has lost and we wont see any G20 in a major german town ever again.

Are people pushing this retarded stance against "smashies" cointelpro or useful idiots?

Seriously you need to kill yourself.

stay triggered, smashie. you are enemies of leftism. if you work undercover for the government to divert public attention from factual discussion or if you're mere myopic idiots who seriously believe burning cars of random people will magically make the masses aware of their oppression. either way: you are enemies of leftism.

hahahahahaha you wish ib-idiot, you wish. you make a
thread on kc every other day.

fuck off back to /rvss/

Neoliberals caused that, not leftists

There is nothing more communist than a burning car.

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Yes, anyone who does anything but peacefully protest or vote is a shill. We must stand with property owners in their struggle against leftist violence.

ITT: Recent moralist liberal converts
Can't blame you fam, i was like you like a year ago but a quick Marx read can cure that

He's a polyp or a r/socialism fag, just dont bother

nah, not anyone. some are tools used by government shills for the purpose of undermining the legitimacy of the left. i already wrote this in my previous posts. work on your reading comprehension.

I'll let some state elections results speak for themselves.

And no, I don't go to KC. Neither do I go to 4chan or Holla Forums regulary anymore. I just stop by when theres some happenings like this one.

Leftists are also for open border policy and citizenship for everyone/non-existence of formal citizenship.

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i was right. you're a shill. fuck you.

Legitimacy is a bourgeois notion, it has nothing to do with how social change functions. Radical politics has nothing to do with addressing power, rather it's based on interruption/blockades.

fam, you won't outnumber the capitalists that way

your mother is a bourgois notion

yeah as we all know social change is achieved by setting small cars on fire

no you stupid fool. there is only one source for legitimacy and that is the people. if you don't acknowledge this you are not leftist.
go read rousseau for a change instead of your mysterious "anarchist theories".

Fucking hell these kids deserve the bullet too

BUT MUH ANARCHISM AND NON-EXISTENCE OF PROPERTY!

Multistream

pscp.tv/w/1BRKjWmpRwLGw

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Why aren't these fucking brats killing burgouise people?

Hello, brother.

Kill yourself fashlord

cant wait to spend my gultural margist ((sorosbux)) on skirts and thigh highs

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the left's direct action is still stuck in the 90s and they are still running on fumes from the battle in seattle. this protest ain't doing shit other than getting comrades arrested and injured

So it's just "we did it for the lulz"?

This is a good example since this is directly linked to the labour laws, so I'm okay with them, but the ones related to G20 don't feel like having any "endgame"

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Window Justice Warriors need to eat a dick. Fuck your cars. this is pay back for the atmosphere. Get a bike

embarrassing that the board owner would rather ban YPG fans than liberals and Holla Forums false flags complaining about direct action

youtube.com/watch?v=y2Ww7-TpqXc

stopped listening there youtuber is a retard who either doesn't know or doesn't care about actual history

newstatesman.com/economics/economics/2014/04/ns-profile-george-soros

Soros personally helped destroy Communism in Eastern Europe.

Please tell me more about he's a leftist lol.

How much do you think antifa actions cost? The supplies are water bottles and dowels, maybe fireworks.

The "communism" in eastern Europe deserved to be destroyed tbh

It was still better than what exists there now.

And that's not the point, anyway. The point is that someone like Soros is obviously a lot more concerned with the expansion of capital than any 'leftism'.

My father has been working in a goddamn factory all his life. He dreams of retiring or maybe getting fired so he can get the compensation (over a hundred thousand euros for working for them for over 30 years). With that money he thinks of buying some bar or kiosk.

If he managed to do so and got himself his own job where he isn't in constant pain (factory's conditions are hard but he won't leave it because he has shit to pay for, sadly), I'd be fucking angry at some anarkiddie fire-bombing his propierty.
And how exactly is shitting over a working class veteran any better? "Worth it"?
I'd go full Stalin on them if that happened to him.

Anarchism is fine, interesting and useful theories. Fire-bombing shit while being a fucking neet doesn't help anyone. Fire-bomb the elites, not petit burgeoise or working class people. But obviously anarchists are a bunch of cowards as they've always have.

Oh, you're right, my bad. I forgot for a second that they just loot random shops to get their alcohol, no need to pay them their beer.
( youtube.com/watch?v=_-8K19fvGyw )

And why the fuck not?

We must defend the bourgeoisie from having their property seized.

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I did not realize how many liberals were on this board.

That's a nice image of bones you got there.

Liberals get the bullet too!!!

Antifa is such fucking garbage. Any of you idiots who think damaging cars and windows will somehow bring us closer to socialism should seriously consider killing yourselves.

So they want capitalism to be gone and anarchy to take place yet they consume stuff sold in super markets?
Does this make sense to you?

she still manages to have stretch marks is the real prodigy

this is a leftist board, we're against the bourgeoisie. if you want pauperism go look for a christian board.

????
that you Holla Forums?

I love how the iphone one is trying to ridicule something that is an absolutely legit argument.

How is that a legit argument?

only because there are countless other capitalists to offer the service of pointless activism for a more competitive price.

In what way is it a legit argument? There is no such thing as ethical consumption under capitalism.

How is it justifiable to use an iphone yet say you hate apple?
Do you seriously not see the hypocrisy in that?

Wow I never heard this argument before.
So original
Wow
I think I'm a capitalist now

Nah, you're a hypocrite.

I think the argument is that you cant critisise capitalism itself while still buying stuff.

Your argument is that you shouldnt buy apple, but his argument is that samsung and google use the same exact factories and pay the same exact wages.

Wat? No one ever talked about google or Samsung.

Not that user, but what's the fundamental difference between them?

There is none. They're just as shitty as Apple. I never claimed they aren't.

No. I have a bank account because such a thing is practically required, should I not criticise my bank for anything bad they do? What about my health insurance, ISP, or grocer?

Agent provocateurs.

That's all I have to say.

No you say "you cant critisize apple if you have an iphone".

But you need a smartphone to have a job in modern society. And any other smartphone brand does the same shit as apple does.

The Iphone argument is often expanded to include anything.

Opportunism

So you're saying a smartphone is practically required?

Do you believe in Anarchy?

Whats your point?

Your argumentation doesn't work out if you believe in anarchy.

In the west it certainly is.

he's saying it's a pointless criticism because it doesn't make a difference whether you buy it or not, plus whatever you buy was made under capitalism and therefore is a product of exploitation.

it is more outside of the west, btw.
if you live in middle east and you need to travel, for example, it's 100% required. there's areas that don't even have electricity there.

What holds you back from living a survivalist lifestyle 100% independent from the government that you hate? In a forest or somewhere.

You cant create anarchy is one toiletbowl. Your isolationist "socialism in one country" or "anarchism is one territory" wont change that products you trade for with the capitalist world are made with exploitation, products and resources you cant get otherwise. There is no ethical consumption when theres no way to consume ethically.

And even then, even if you could create anarchism in one squatters flat, you live in capitalism now, and as such need to buy food and clothes from a capitalist firm.

Then explain to me why humanity survived in this "isolationist" way for tens of thousands of years.

If this "isolationist" way wouldn't work, we would not be here today.

Read a fucking book.

Uhm. So? Yea, there were small tribes in which people worked together. However they survived without importing or exporting between other tribes like countries do.

I'm not a commie, but I am a tranny. Can I still apply for soroshekels

People wonder why nobody likes commies.

le trash man

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whoever makes these cartoons is worse than the most braindead smashie

It is eye opening how we are so divided in this era. There is no turning back is there?
This is going to lead to civil war isn't it?
There will be blood shed…
I feel sad. This physical world is a fucker
Although i am a rightwinger i could not kill my fellow man even if he is a commie

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I doubt it. This stuff happens at every anti globalisation riot.

K well why aren't you?

you won't have to kill commies if you become a commie

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Idk, there is something different in the political atmosphere. And all that there is at steak. Things are getting really serious.

Then i'd have to kill nazi's and the like. Sucks no matter what

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I fucking hope not

That's a common misconception. you don't have to be fighting on the streets for the revolution to come, we need all sorts of different workers. You might be a cook, for example. Good cooks need to keep others alive.

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Well i will never be a communist, or a nazi. But by fuck i could not just sit there cooking while my nation is dieing. I think i would just have to get involved.
If the left won what would become of Ireland? And her indigenous people? Replaced and wiped out through minorities. After all them centuries of struggle under British colonialism we would be forced to pay for Britains sins just because we are white. The "new irish" do not give one fuck about our past and its just blame the whitey.
I hate to imagine in 2050 when we are a minority in our own country. I would just have to take arms to prevent this.
And if it is communism that is the victor of the left well fuck that altogether.

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*rubs hands* have you considered starting a youtube channel, white man?

Well, then you're a fucking idiot.

I just want you to know that Wall Street is proud of you.

Anything right on the political spectrum is a nazi huh?

Money comes second, survival of nation first.

I don't like communism because it is flawed and it takes the human spirit out of us. This equality of outcome is not natural. You know it is not when you have to make communism work by killing countless of people only for it to be a disaster at the end.

Thank you for the riots, lefties.

All the comments, tweets, videos, Facebook statuses, etc. that I've seen are disgusted with the left for these riots.

Unfortunately you lefties are too stupid to see that normies don't like shit and without normies you can't win.

I think this stuff is great for us, it implants people the idea that the left is filled with terrorist thugs and that the right is peaceful, however once the right is strong enough our true power will be revealed and every single worthless piece of leftist turd will be slaughtered in the most gruesome way possible.

Unlike you though we wait until we have the numbers and power to start acting violently. I'm very confident that in my lifetime beheading a leftist and playing around with his severed head is going to be a daily occurrence. Can't wait.

Fake news.

still better than associating the left with socdems or murrican liberals, I guess.

Explain

t. Ahmed

Nice reddit spacing. Also I find it hilarious how you are siding with literal globalists on this.

What if I told you all of your opinions are dictated by propaganda and the media who has every single reason in the world to lie to you and push the narrative that "communism is bad"?

Or do you think it's an accident that huge swaths of people governed by communists want to see them return? And that you can literally see East Germany right down to East Berlin when looking who votes for Die Linke?

Not a Muslim but admire ISIS's execution techniques. The right will hopefully appropriate them with the time is right because lefties deserve the most painful humiliating death possible.

You've done nothing to hurt the globalist you subhuman leftist coward. A you've done is burn the shops of small businesses and burned the cars of working people. Why don't you go riot and burn Wall Street instead? Filthy fucking leftist scum. Every single one of you deserves to die in the most painful way possible and God willing you will.

I think you misread my post.

also:
Socialism offers no such thing.

I believe you to an extent.
The propaganda is for sure influencing me. However, people can just as easily get brainwashed into communism. I try to get passed all the bullshit but we are in a sea of it.

There are two threads on these events. Read them.

If normies knew what was fucking good for them they'd be supporting these riots.

hallo Johann.

but what bout the survival of the race tho?

Communist government, even though flawed and revisionist, took a dirt poor shithole and turned it into the second most powerful country on the planet, doubled the life expectancy of their people, quintupled their wages, and got people to have kids at above replacement rate. All of this without a single economic crises.

We must secure the existence of our people and a future for the semen on our pants. Because the beauty of the 2D Anime woman must not perish from the earth

Socks, you fucking savage.

Well any how, trying to get rid of classes is not good. Classes is ying and yang, a natural order of the cosmos playing out through man. Competitiveness is the driving force of life and if you do not have that things will get stagnant.

Race and nation are one. If the race is gone then so is the nation.

Alright, interesting but i don't buy it just yet. I will do my own research on this.

That's spoopy. Socialism wouldn't mean everyone being exactly the same, some people would be doctors, some would be potters. Is that enough cosmic natural order forces for you?

There would be competition. One designer would still try to make better stuff than the next, only destructive competition would have to cease.

No, they're not. They're nothing but a by-product of generalized commodity production and statism

read a goddamn book

I for one can't wait until the Germans are forced to submit to a Caliphate and are eliminated from the earth. Couldn't have happened to a better group of people, between Protestantism, two World Wars, the Holocaust, etc.

And what about their pay? Would they get paid on the quality of their work?

Just because a book tells you? It would suit you better contemplating on things than having a book tell you what to think.
You are right, but you see you are also wrong
Where do you think this "by-product of generalized commodity production and statism" stems from?

read a book isnt actual an argument, my man

You're so upset.

Why do you want to be ruled so badly?

Neither is saying 'clases r nachural'

do you think that spelling the other persons argument wrong makes them seem less intelligent? Literally "freeze peach" tier debate.

It's not just "because a book says so", it's an accurate evaluation of human history that is backed up by empirical evidence. Many of the things we consider "human nature" only became hegemonic (that is, rigidly reinforced under our current economic system) within recent history. Human development for thousands of years did not have structures of hierarchy or rigid resource distribution. It only became "natural" within the last two centuries to only labor on somebody else's behalf on their private property in exchange for a wage. Even feudal peasants labored for themselves and kept all they produced from said labor, even if they did such labor on a Lord's land.

Peter Kropotkin was not the first, nor the last, thinker to write about human society before the introduction of slave societies by the Greek and Roman empires.

I repeat, read a fucking book

There was never any actual argument presented, just a cheap appeal to nature. Why should I expected to formulate a decent argument when the other guy isn't doing so?

it is 100% human nature to want to amass wealth, subjugate the other people and fuck all the women while keeping the other men out.

Pointing out the human condition isnt an appeal to nature fallacy.

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Can you present any proof for that? Even chimps develop egalitarian, non-hierarchical groups when observed in captivity, provided they are provided with an adequate food supply

proof that humans will always act in their own self interest?

No, proof that humans self-interest means raping and pillaging all that stands between them and the nearest fertile female

Just read the Gor novels, cuck.

I didnt claim that it was.

Also, destructive competition is real competition. I do not like how small business gets drowned out but communism certainly is not a good answer.
When you try to control everything using flawed human reasoning you make a balls of it.

Yes it is an argument. Communism is so artificial it tries to grasp power and control. It would be better to find or make an ideology that works with human nature. The human perception is flawed and did not evolve for accuracy but for survival. So how people think you can use intellect to fix everything is dumb. Now what you say here:
Is simply false. Human nature has always lead to hierarchy. From Chieftians to kings, even in anarchist societies, they always foamed.

*they always formed*

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I expect nothing less from German lefties.

Dear god I miss this flash game.

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OMG SUCH MEMORIES

tagderarbeit.extrajetzt.de/htm/game.htm

You may not like it, nor do i, but the kind of creature we are is not what is ideal.

Unbearable thread. Mods are fags.

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The German state is a weak, cowardly and impotent one. An undisciplined horde descents upon of its cities, burning down the cars of its inhabitants, sacking their shops and homes, attempting to murder its policemen. And what does this state -having tanks, machine guns, commando's and other arms at its disposal that could swiftly end the sacking- do? It sprays water at them, it gives them ticks with batons, it makes the horde laugh at such willful impotence as they move unto another street to burn and plunder.

Let this be a reminder to the Germans that their politicians choose the well-being of the horde over that of their subjects, that they would serve a punishment if they repented the sacking by killing their assailants, that they are made by law into a status lowlier than that of serfs, for even those were afforded protections by their rulers and would not be punished by them if they put bandits that raided their villages to the sword.

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Ahmed detected.

A horde that cries chants of their good faith is a horde still, and as they are not having a contemplation regarding their faith, neither should those who are at their mercy.

This.
/thread

Thank you leftist retards for this. This brought discussion about leftist extremism into tons of major newspapers and TV stations.
Normies are generalizing the left with those guys who randomly burned down cars in the streets. This is great.

All you have to do is to check out a Youtube video of the riots and take a look at the comments. You will see what we mean. The left are getting an insane amount of hate and generalization by the mainstream right now. If it wasn't the left I would almost feel bad for them.

pls stop

Holla Forums you really are showing your age here. This happens all the fucking time. Also you do realize that they are protesting the globalists right? I thought you hated globalism?

So much for the nationalist right!

No one of the mainstream cares about what they protested. They are looking upon those protesters as leftist extremists who go there looking for some trouble and destroying random peoples property, that's all they see in this. And that's why it's so great for us, regardless of what they protested for.

Merkel wins again. Screencap this.

Nobody gives a shit between Merkel and the other not-socdem guy.

This sort of rioting happens every time the global porkies meet up in the west. It's a non-story that only Trumptards care about.

Schulz or Merkel will win obviously. Do you really believe we care about that anymore though? And on top of that Germany is a parliamentarian Democracy. It's not "either this guy or that guy".
AfD will get 10-15% which means quite some involvement.

Again, the mere mention of "leftism" as something other than murrican libturds or euro succdems would be a nice change. Unfortunately, that's not what's going to happen.

Can the mods please round up the liberals, delete this thread, and start this over.

I came here for riot porn.

this

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Can you start a new thread for news and riot porn, with clear indication that discussions about the legitemacy of violence should be held elsewhere? I have to head off to work now

With these protest people associate the left with violence they don't even want to look into it. When someone tells them that communism is the best for all they will shake their head because all they saw from communism is violence. We are not many our main focus should be on "recruiting" people. The right is doing it excellently we should too. We should spread class awarness and make people understand the principles of communism,support communist partys in your country (in mine it is "Die Linke") and then we can riot. But for now we need to gather up

what about I can do whatever the hell I want? and if in response you do the same you're proving exactly my point here. stop being a bitch, the cars are fucked because those individuals wanted to fuck with them, they had fun doing it. If I got enjoyment from it, I would have done the same.

The door is right over there then.

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Because a thousand years ago not literally every piece of land within 500km of me was owned by someone or protected by the state from being used to homestead, you dipshit.

Smash comm- uh I mean smash capitalism LOL

What is pro-capitalist about this pic?

Buying Apple products like that phone means you support child labor in China the conditions there are so bad workers kill themselves to escape, using Apple is literally the most 'I FUCKING LOVE CAPITALISM' statement you can make, it's the BWM or Ferrari of electronics.

i was coerced into buying an iphone you fatcat

go be an utopian somewhere else.

Leftism is such a blatantly destructive force in the world

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Now you've absorbed it into your system
Now that you've allowed it to be true
Now that you've neutralised it, made it safe, made it yours
Now that you've been photographed, recorded
What are you gonna do?
What are you gonna do?

Is it so unsafe when you are
Insecure in the space where you are?
Is it so, really so
Is it more real?
Is it more yours?
Is it more yours?
Is it more real, for you
Than it is for him or me?
And the people who perceive it
Repeat it, distort it, improve it, update it
Slightly change it
And these people believe it
And write it all up for you
And is it more real?

And is it more real?
Does it make it more yours
Now you're recorded as having said it?
And being seen and done it
People have been seen to take notice
So empty
Is it so awful to be seen to feel and fail?
Overheard and noted to authenticate his story
An unsafe male trait
You know what they say
That empty vessels ring true, like bells
Make the most noise
The ink is still wet
In this case, the medium is not

Even in the midst of desolation, the market finds a way.

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youtube.com/watch?v=amWixxpYMPI

Holy shit, cry more, faggot.

Please, don't smash any more mercedeses plox, I have slaved for porky for 40 years, without ever thinking about uprising, so please no smashy my mercedes, and it will also make porky mad with me

it fires the revolutionary spirit and anger in the masses

your father wants to become a capitalist and exploit the labour of other people

oh wew lad

it's pretty fuckign disturbing

Also, way to create revenue for your jewish masters.

not wanting to isolate myself from society, but actually trying to radically change it

why sad? i will be happy to slaughter idiots who post idiotic shit on this boad

muh iphone
muh you live in a capitalist society yet you criticize it

That is enough for me to support them. Go on smashies, smash as much as possible!

The average youtube commenter is 15 and/or retarded. It says a lot that this is your standard for "mainstream thought"

You didn't seem bothered by this though

This is Unironically a great question

Mostly catalyzed by undercover police officers, let's be honest. I read story somewhere about some of those supposed "antifa" guys smashing in the windows of a refugee hostel. Either these are really dumb antifa, or just police agitators.

pol siding with globalists lmao

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Actually in Hamburg both are at work. Some dumbs do stupid things just because therer is already chaos. Happens in a situation like this.

On the other side Hamburg police is well known for operating *V-Männer* and agent provocateur way more than most other police troops in Germany. So that's definetely a valid point.

Andy Grote plays hardball and that's what happens then.

Crazies and smashies jump on the bandwagon and torch property of the not so capitalist or rich people.

It is wanted. A plan to criminalize all protests.

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The right has ALWAYS sided with the elite and popo.

I remember when /new/ was still paulfag lolberts and they cheered police smashing unarmed peaceful protesters at occupy. So called "Libertarians" supporting police brutality against unarmed civilians.

The right are the epitome of classcucks.

Well by looking at this thread the left are also siding with the pigs and the elite

I love riot porn but burning random cars is stupid and counterproductive.

youtube.com/watch?v=lJpGHukH01M

Cars are a product of capitalism. They must be smelted and the products of combustion given back to the people so new pro-socialist devices could be made! Freedom to materia!

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The best G20 stunt ever was the chaser one where they actually hired a limo, made up a fake escort and country, got through every checkpoint, then right at the G20 with world leaders, had a dude dressed as Osama Bin Laden jump out and run in.

I agree its stupid to hurt the poor, normal people who suffer enough already. But when there is chaos on the streets bad things will happen.. I'm certain 99% of us dont want some cheap car a poor person owns torched. But there always is someone stupid somewhere. Protest is still needed.

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the point is

A: divert a police attention which is the same police that went on the attack the very moment peaceful protestors showed up

B: Make the public not want these g20's in their cities becasue this shit happens

so no it's not counterproductive unless your idea of productive is shilling your deviantart stalino-trotskyist succdem vanguard party

Well, it's die Welt. They can't back it up, some rumours. The next weeks will once again show it's all crap. Springer_Verlag at its best

Actually I cant find this Chris Tomlinson who wrote this as working for die Welt and despite die Welt generally being a Springer Verlag outlet which by definition hates everything left I didn't find this on their webpage at all.

but srsly fam the "working class" will now never support the left again

*never* detected

Obviously never is wrong. The rich owned media will try everything to keep the real left down but come on.. never?

kill yourself /pol

But think of the LAWS they're breaking, and the PROPERTY

They're not breaking property. They're breaking possessions.
They might as well be destroying toothbrushes.

yeah i checked on the webpage of die Welt, there is nothing like that. I wouldn't be surprised if they did such a hit piece, but it isnt there.

Niggers gonna nig.

What's the difference between Antifa and Black Lives Matter, again?

Burn the rich, class war now

Well you can't make communism without breaking a few cars

b-b-but the media will demonize the left and make the working class not join us….becasue the media wasn't already doing that and nothing wins the working class over like sitting around doing jack shit that isn't masterbating to the thought of how peaceful and moderate you are

I support riots.
I just don't support burning random cars.

nobody does, but in such situations shit happens
however, it is stupid to reduce everything to 10 torched cars

b-b-but he was just a innocent arab limo driver who just happened to be the millionaire owner of the limo service

ok i found the hit piece on die Welt.. here..

welt.de/regionales/hamburg/article166349347/Ladenbesitzer-erpresst-Linksextreme-sollen-Schutzgeld-fordern.html

It's total Bullshit. The Headline is *supported* by some Bruno Blockus who literally says he never heard of it.
And by an unnamed shop owner who happens to be female but ofc stays completely anonymous.

The rest is some weird hit piece totally unrealted to the headline.

I hope they're actually making communism then, instead of only fucking up its image.
I hope it stays with only a few prole cars. Best they realize there are better targets and richer neighborhoods to demonize.

maybe trotsky was right about these anarchist bandits KILL EM ALL 1921

fuck off /pol i told you

When chaos ensues you will have morons unrelated to the cause, it's sad but you can't just stop protesting because the Innensenator Addy Grote wants to play hardball to look like a fancy new Innenminister and some morons inevitably will create pain on normal people because they are smashies.

it's a joke autist

which one the peaceful that's demonized by the media or the one that makes proky uncomfortable for at least one moment that's demonized by both the media and cucks like you
am not a kraut and don't know for sure but do these homes look like ones prole could afford?

yes of course
this thread made me believe that german proles live in renovated luxury villas

and they say socialism doesn't work HA!

leftists will defend this

People being able to read the original text on die Welt know its unsubstantiated crap. There is not a single person in the whole piece supporting the headline. Just an *unnamed female business holder*. There is no substance.

there

welt.de/regionales/hamburg/article166349347/Ladenbesitzer-erpresst-Linksextreme-sollen-Schutzgeld-fordern.html

Maybe google translate can help you.. Its just nothing.

Fake news :^)

That was actually pretty good. I expected some liberal bs but this was far less liberal than most of this fucking thread so that was a W.

your mother hasn't fucked her way through antifa yet

communism/socialism will work this time.

Right?

You just need to kill all the people that disagree with you?

LOLE LE COMMUNISM DOESN'T WORK

Depressing, i'm out for a while

doesn't stop ISIS from using twitter against the imperial state.

nice reddit spacing

And I can't enter movie theatre because of No Singles policy! It's POLITICAL CORRECTNESS GONE WRONG

Antifa. So tainted.
Even normies turn their backs
How will the left ever recover

Alt-right, please …

0/10 not using dynamite.

i like riots
and burning cars
:DDDD