New film about the Holodomor. Is this accurate?

New film about the Holodomor. Is this accurate?

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yeah okay

Just admit the fucking Holodomor happened you fucking tankie. Stalin was an awful leader and Marxism-Leninism is failed ideology that tarnishes the name of leftism to this day.

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It wasn't on purpose and people were starving all over the USSR. Plus, those Kulaks deserved it for hoarding grain.

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The ultimate conspiracy theorists wetdream.

You can legitimately debate whether or not it was intentional, but kulaks were only "hoarding" grain so they wouldn't starve because of the government horrible policies.

It's always been a nazi propaganda tool. Shit even the name is meant to minimize the actual holocaust. Also
Are you saying that he was incompetent or that he was just a bad guy?

If you are going to argue that 'the Holodomor happened' then really can't then say that it's debatable whether or not it was intentional…the term implies a deliberate and planned famine.

This. While there is something to be said about the way the Kulak designation was thrown around (ie loosely enough that some relatively innocent parties also got caught up in it), those who were actually meant to be the target of dekulakization absolutely deserved it.

While there is no doubt that there was a famine that occurred in the Ukraine at the time, most evidence seems to suggest it was not meant as some act of malicious intent at the hands of the Soviet government. The number of factors that played into the damage are numerous: economic mismanagement was perhaps one of them, but it also was partially weather, crop disease, and resistance to the collectivization programs (everything from letting crops rot in the fields to actively burning already harvested grain) also played key roles. It certainly wasn't some grand scheme to kill of the Ukrainian people, a narrative the US and the like have been unable to push even among most other NATO members.

Bullshit. They killed animals and burned grain so they wouldn't have to give it up, just to spite the rest of the soviet people. Also, Stalin made sure aid was sent to Ukraine. Holodomor is bullshit.

Depends, how many trillions die in the movie?

Western revisionism, comrade.

Like now rich hoard wealth because ebil gov wants taxes. Stupid excuse for wealth and power grab. It didnt work with commies then, it eventually wont work now, porky.

Understanding Richard Spencer’s Holodomor Denial

c4ss.org/content/49082

Yes. The Soviets starved millions to death. Pdf related.

Conquest was a shill paid by the United States to defame the Soviet Union during the Cold War. He even admitted that his bodycount was an exaggeration.

USER WAS BANNED FOR TRANS RUSSO IMPERIALIST HOLODOMOR DENIAL PHOBIA

Really?

Wrong. He started out as a member of his local communist party and only quit when they denounced WW2 as imperialist.


Wrong. When the Soviet archives were opened he suggested that the newest version of his book be called "I told you so you fucking fools".

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That's bullshit, though. The archives were what made him stop saying 50 million, he cut off 20-30 million from his calculations.

Try what is reading comprehension for $300.

It is the tankie that allies with the NAzii.

This priority is mirrored on the tankie left, who are now coming to a more positive evaluation of Spencer. So eager to uphold the glorious state communist tradition of allying with Nazis, they embrace the Traditionalist International out of resistance to Western capitalist imperialism, echoing the European New Right author Alain de Benoist’s sentiment that it is “Better to wear the helmet of a Red Army soldier than to live on a diet of hamburgers in Brooklyn.” They, like Spencer and other white nationalists, also defend Putin’s support of Bashar al-Assad’s Syrian Ba’athist (Arab national-socialist) regime.

But the Soviet archives disproved all those claims.

Yes, he changed it to 20 million. A total coincidence that this happened right after the Cold War ended, I'm sure.

Regurgitating what is LITERAL NAZI PROPAGANDA makes you a nazi ally. Stop doing this.

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It's some extremely poor propaganda.

Even if it was true this movie fucking sucks dick lmfao

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The Soviets won World War II, whether you like it or not. This movie sucks dick, whether you like it or not. This film isn't accurate, whether you like it or not.

I don't give a fuck about the film.
I'm just saying tankies are the kind of people to see this film, and then decide that they wanted it to happen after all.

Then why are you in this thread about this stupid ass movie

To make fun of tankies for believing all the bourgeois propaganda, and liking it.

someone plz post the pic of Stalin paying the clouds to fuck off

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It was an outright bomb.

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Again, there is no evidence for Holodomor. Stalin actually sent aid, and there is plenty of evidence of Kulaks destroying food out of spite, not that it would have helped as it was a famine. Nobody is debating that people died and a famine happened, but the idea that USSR wanted people dead is stupid, as massive die-offs only hurt the nation. There is no logical reason for it other than Stalin being a cartoon villain. So yes, if you keep harping on about Holodomor or other revisionist history, then we would be correct in calling you a Nazi or at least brainwashed by Nazi propaganda. Also Ukraine now is run by neo-Nazi faggots.

The only nazi party in Ukraine is this: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Svoboda_(political_party)

C4SS is crypto-ancap and thus crypto-fascist
I don't believe that the soviet famine was deliberate

the comments are pure cancer
youtube.com/watch?v=HKLBp3fZ5zA

Who honestly cares what the details of the holodomor are wrt the merits of socialism in the 21st century?

We make enough food to feed the world already and then some because of new technology since the 1930s, people wouldn't starve.

This is not comparable to historical dramas about the holocaust, where genocides have happened in recent memory and could feasibly happen again.

Kulaks probably starved more people to death then the Soviets could ever kill.